Arun, we don't keep doing benchmarks on our phones everyday. Neither we run them back to back. None of the apps stress the phones like benchmarks. Also, are benchmarks really that important?
Not defending samsung,but my S10+ with the exynos cpu,doesnt get hot or even near that,yes it gets warm sometimes ,but far from hot. I dont play demanding games often but I still use cpu heavy apps frequently. So dunno about that :D .
I had a fight with Samsung store as they never sell Snapdragon in India, so I had to drop S20 and went with M51. They also never had the 512Gb version available like the USA variant in India. Samsung knows the market very well and knows how to play it very well. People pay the same money ask over the world but still this how they get treated.
Yeah It is very unfair. Samsung thinks that only very developed country should get the best phone but NOT. WE SHOULD ALSO GET TREATED LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I’m so glad to see more big youtubers covering this lately. This isn’t even a recent problem, it’s been a long running trend that Samsung’s Exynos phones have worse performance and battery life than the snapdragon counterparts. Case in point is my Exynos Note 8 that has UI stutters at 1440p resolution and lasts half a day while brand new. The delta between snapdragon and Exynos is the largest it’s ever been this year, and honestly if that’s what it takes to get people to bring it up, so be it. I absolutely hate this business practice.
@@alolanstarboy Bro I remember when I carried S8+ exynos and that thing give me 2 days of battery life... Your Phone is almost 3 years Old, that's why your battery life sucks!!
@@alolanstarboy ı have an s8 and no. Its not worse than the qualcomm. That problem came with the s9 (a pretty big difference of cpu power, heat, battery) and the s10( a smaller difference) but if you look at any benchmark, s8 is the same and s7 exynos is better also s6 and the ones before
@@pvshka People are giving it more importance now because the difference becomes larger the more time it passes, 5 years ago exinos had the upper hand and users from the US were complaining about having the inferior variant
I've commented about this before with other reviews. This should generate a lawsuit, it's nothing short of misrepresentation and should be below Samsung.
They look the same, they cost the same, but one of them has 50%ish worse graphic performance and about 20% worse cpu performance. I can't believe samsung is getting away with this.
They sell them with different names to adapt and call the attention of different places in the world, is like when they change the OS to a more western style, so that it doesn’t feel odd
Who says the experience is 100% same. Exynos chip performs terrible when you use graphic i tense contents. It almost freezes at some point and heats hotter than clothes iron. So, you don't need an extra iron for your clothes if you have Samsung phone especially exynos version. Totally Fu*k off Samsung, cheater. Don't act like a flagship phone producer if you can't be honest to the customer. Gradually everyone will know their bad intense and one day may be everybody will change their mind from Samsung to other brand like Apple, Xioami, OnePlus, and so on
As a Samsung user and someone who lives in Europe thus gets the Exynos version (S9+) I find it very sad that this is happening... Not that I've ever noticed any significant issues but it does suck to know that one pays the same amount for an inferior version. Luckily there are some rumors of Samsung dropping the development of Exynos and teaming up with AMD to make better chips in order to challenge Qualcomm. Hope that happens asap and goes well cause competition is always good for the customer and it'll hopefully bring an end to this Exynos fiasko.
My guess is: US forced samsung to use qualcomm's chip, or they won't be able to market them in the US. So the original design was using exynos chip, but just to be able to market them in the US, they used SD. It just so happen that the SD was better than exynos. Just my guess....
same...I was actually excited for the note 20 ultra until I saw the price and specs. I'm so sick of samsung treating a lot of its client base as second class citizens, and I'm glad its coming back to bite them. Who knew that ripping off your consumer base was not a very good business strategy?
I tested my smartphone against my desktop and, believe it or not, the exynos manages to get more fps/W than my threadripper despite being a lot weaker than the snapdragon of my previous smartphone.
Samsung sucks at silicon, what did you expect? They can't even crank out Nvidia's chips within a reasonable timeframe, and their efficiency gets assfucked by that of TSMC.
Upon the unsealed of the cooling system, I would take one more benchmark after swapping back the cooling to it own and see the difference of the result again.
Samsung trying hard to push the customers away with ridiculous prices, major chipsets differences yet charging the same, removing 3.5mm jack after making fun of others removing it.
Tbh, ppl should stop complaining about the jack. Most already have at least 1 pair of wireless headphones/earbuds and I dont even feel its need anymore
Maybe Samsung is one of President Trump's Crownies why else ban China force Apple to make U.S manufacturing parts and us Samsung's American made chips and other stuff. President Trump is just like Biff from back to the future
I'll agree if the only thing you do with this phone is run benchmarks. Samsung will prevail in court because no one will be able to pass a blind test or an experience based test.
@@ymx777 If that's true, I wonder why Samsung doesn't just use the Exynos in all regions? I assume they generally would prefer to use their own processors, and it's cheaper to do so. So unless there's some weird reason that the cheaper processor varies by region (or something like that), I presume it's because the Snapdragon processor does in fact run better.
@@ids1024 My guess it's due to cost and patent strategy. Qualcomm owns a lot of patents in wireless, especially in America. And maybe samsung owns a lot of wireless patents in other regions. As a result samsung might have no choice but to use two separate processors. If you were a business, why would you not try to use the cheaper of the two everywhere if you can help it? I'm certain they didn't do it so TH-camrs can make money criticizing their perceived business mistake, or to do intentional harm to the customer.
5:07 A very minor detail is that the EXYNOS have 4 network bands while SD has up to 5 or 6, depending on the model. in my case Galaxy Note 9 has 5 bands, while my brother with Note 10 Exynos has only 4.
The thing is what's left to buy? I see only apple and maybe OnePlus, and that's all. Huawei is lost google play and i can't see any big and decent manufactors of phones to choose from. (of course i'm talking about flagships)
@@Frostecc Check out Asus Zenphone and ROG Phones. They have flagship features and okayish cameras. If you don't mind using GCam mods then, Asus is good.
Lol, I have literally commented in most of the Exynos Vs Snapdragon posts on r/galaxys10 and I get downvoted everytime cause everyone is like "They don't notice any difference" or "My Exynos S10 is still very smooth". It just feels like people are trying to justify why they bought a mid tier phone for a flagship price
@@sahilhuzoor5155 coming from a windows phone performing the same for 5 years I am deeply disappointed in my s9 plus performing worse over time and it is not even that old yet.
@@berend109 have you tried xda? Rummor has it that android phones (if done correctly) are like pcs - install what you want how you want and work how you want. Even google understood that once upon a time (kitkat days).
@@Edinburgh1000 You can't understand why people are angry about having an inferior processor while also paying the same price as the same phone with a superior processor ? How dumb can you actually be ? Not to mention using your "coca cola" pathetic example makes no sense here.
@@andrewg6127 I own a Samsung S20 ultra and a mi note 10 and I feel I've over spent on that stupid Samsung chipset... Anyways I only bought the Samsung for brand name...
for them it is hahaha, more money baby, Exynos is their own chip so they get to keep their money circulating inside the company. Its just a matter of book keeping ;)
Let's hope not! Class action lawsuits are great for the FIRM, they get millions and every customer gets a check that cannot even cover dinner for 3 at Chik-fil-A. And next year's phone comes in just a box with zero accessories and is $100 more. No thanks!
@@christianbay7614 Except that people are still buying exynos even though they know it's problems and ALL of them try to justify their purchase "the battery life is ok for me". I myself haven't bought it as I'd get the exynos variant and currently have the S10+ exynos (which is a great phone but fuck having an exynos worse battery life). I'm switching to the ROG 3 if I end up liking it. Sadly my order has been delayed 3 times. It was supposed to come 18.8 but it comes 22.9 atm
Samsung’s marketing team going to have a hard time explaining that one out! I can already see them scratching their heads at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7 😁
Same thing happened to me, my first and last Sammy was a Galaxy S8+ (had the Exynos version). Sammy slowed the device down and ruined the battery life via updates over the span of 3 years in which I had the battery changed 6 times in a Samsung service.
@@iamjorellr I mean why correct him though, he's known as Jerry on the internet so people are gonna call him that. Yeah most people know it's actually Zach but it doesn't really matter imo
@Vinch that's exactly why I don't see the point of this video He really wants some views no more Nothing in this video hadn't been known Samsung didn't hide that or tried to give an excuse They stopped producing the chip and they are working on a new chip (It may come with the S30 or note 30) Actually in some countries You can get it cheaper than the snapdragon version
You simply aren't wrong. It should be 1 and the same, or at least close to it. And Samsung knows that the snapdragon is the superior, meaning you get more base memory on that, and extra stuff to compensate...
True. This's been happening for a long time. Using snapdragon in USA and Exynos everywhere else. A few years ago exynos was better but the tables have changed and now snapdragon is better. Running a S10 at the moment. Probably my last samsung phone.
Car manufacturers do this all the time... An identical model sold in Mexico will not have all the required safety equipment as the same model sold in the US therefore cheaper but same name.
True, mainly since he's one of the tech TH-camrs Samsung acknowledges, so it's pretty certain to say them seeing such a vid being posted means a lot more people are gonna be aware of the difference between the processors, which might hurt their sales and brand image.
Pollution Yes! A lot. Nobody was giving enough importance to this. They were just mentioning it as something to keep in mind but it’s unfair and unprofessional to say the least
@@karushogaming2984 no its not. It literally can't perform better. They have the same exact core layout, same exact cores, same exact everything except the GPU and NPU. The snapdragon is SLIGHTLY better in GPU and the exynos has a better NPU. There is literally no difference that matters
@@marekkafarek272 Yeah I'm aware. It isn't really even new news because Samsung has been doing this for years but I have to agree with it being a bit scummy. If you buy a used one you have to check if it's the good one or the less good one. It's just silly.
Customer: Why this phone has different components than the rest? Samsung: Oh... Well? We had some usless components that we ordered by mistake and we couldn't return them... And we recycle anything.
It has to do with licensing and restrictions on Qualcomm. They can’t use that chip everywhere so they have to go with their own in places that don’t allow Qualcomm
I remember when the Exynos came out as an option and people were actually trying to buy the international version because it was better than the Snapdragon offering. My how the times have changed.
@@pvshka They really need to change their decisions on Exynos or Qualcomm processors. It's not fair that some countries have an advantage over the others.
There's supposed to be the "new Exynos" with ARM cores (vs the current Mongoose architecture they're currently using) and AMD graphics which looked promising, but based on rumours, it might not here anytime soon...
*I really went on a tangent or two in this comment. It's mostly me rambling (not sure though, didn't go back to read it, lol). I think the point at which I was trying to arrive - but probably never did - is that I get that the phones weren't advertised as having different processors. However, I knew this before making my purchase. All a person had to do was read the description and specs, or ask about it- they actually had to WANT to know what they were getting for their money. I wanted a good processor, so I looked through all available G. S20+ models, did some research, and bought the more expensive Snapdragon model. I don't remember the phones being the same price..... in fact, the lower prices of some of the phones is partially what drew me to triple check all the specs. One phone for $1200 and the same phone for $900-something.... both brand new.. ? Yeah, I'm gonna be looking at all the details.* **Don't bother reading the rest of this, You!** In the summer of 2020, I wanted a new phone. I was constantly running out of space on my old phone (Galaxy S6, 32 GB and no SD slot). The S6 was losing battery too quickly for my liking, and the inner charging port had loose parts, making it pretty complicated to charge. Most importantly, I REALLY wanted to play CoD:Mobile. I liked my brother's Galaxy S10 Plus (all except for the rounded edges- I never understood that feature), but figured I might as well get the newest model, which was the S20 line. So, I started researching. The S20+ had most of what I was looking for (you couldn't just make the screen totally flat?). I would have gotten the Ultra for the GB and the additional camera, but the phone was way too big, and the extra camera was nothing special. Plus, that "Cloud Blue" effervescent color was growing on me. And I'm finally getting to my point.... I was aware of the difference of one version using Exynos and the other using Qualcomm Snapdragon. I was going to be buying a phone outright- a phone I'd have for at least a few years- so I did my research on every single aspect I could possibly find. I almost bought the S20+ for under $1,000- until I noticed that it was the EXYNOS model. How the heck was I going to get to Legendary in CoDm with that!? Anyway... I purchased the Galaxy S20+ from Best Buy for $1,199.99. [ As an aside: There seems to be a weird issue between this phone and the CoDm server. I don't know what the deal is, because the stats for the S20+ are overall better than a lot of the "gaming phones" out there, and I have great network and WiFi connection. But I experience a lot of desync (I meet up with an opponent in match, I empty an entire clip on them before they even notice me or do anything, they shoot me once and I die- but killcam shows them seeing me first, emptying almost an entire clip on *me,* and me not even shooting, not going prone, sliding, jumping, ducking, or even looking anywhere near them....), sporadic lag, crazy wait times, getting kicked from games with a network error code.... and it happens way more in ranked matches than public matches, unfortunately. I tried getting a VPN and playing through another server, but I was kicked two of the times, and CoDm wouldn't even allow me to open the game on another occasion with the VPN on. I don't understand this, because streamers use VPNs all the time. And streamers also seem to have the advantage in the desync... I would have thought it would be the other way around and that the stream running would cause the missed connection. Maybe it works like a lag switch and it desyncs in their favor. I know they're great players, but I just have to wonder sometimes.... what's happening on the other side? ]
Most Asian car manufacturers do this as well; they send a premium product to the US and for the same price an inferior product to developing markets. Kia, Hyundai; Nissan; Mazda even Toyota. Exceptions are Subaru and Honda, they maintain same quality.
@@felipeosorio6772 All car manufacturers do that. Looking at the US and Canadian versions of cars vs the ones they sell in the Latin American market at more expensive prices and yet, less safety features and cutting corners everywhere at the expense of safety and the lives of people involved in crashes.
Umm...I think sd is way much better, but I think qualcomm would raise ther cpu prices when there is no compeditor on the market. We hate exynos, but I think it ia needed. Anyway, amd exynos chip would come out soon.
I have KT Note 8. It's Exynos. That specific generation was better than the QC version. Samsung is required to use QC in the US sure to patents. If the market will accept it they'll use Ex to save money.
By your comment it's clear that you want a note20ultra It's still a great deal if you get for 10k cheaper in india.... It could be fixed by updates or else
@@lilcheaty Don't have choice in android when you need a better camera and updates for the phone...... Literally after chinese ban Samsung - the only choice
I'm glad Jerry also took this up because I was hugely disappointed when I bought my Note 9 in Nigeria 🇳🇬 and it was Exynos. PS: the processor also reduces the camera performance and that was the major reason I bought the phone.
Lol if you are buying a phone and most important for you is camera, never pick Samsung, it's pretty overpriced shit on exynos, while on Snapdragon is just overpriced due to super agressive Samsung marketing, just pick Huawei, they specialise on cameras, or pick latest Xiaomi mi 10 ultra
And I moved to Pixel 2XL after exynos s7 which at the moment of retirement also had an inadequate battery draining and a burned out screen in the upper part. Couldn't be happier, Pixel experience FTW
Nearly 2 years after the release of this phone, Samsung seems to have done some positive optimization on the software end with OneUI 4. The battery life gap between both variants has narrowed significantly, although the performance gap still remains.
Agreed, my regular S20 with the Exynos 990 was wayyyyy better with the OneUI 4 update. Seems Samsung were indeed embarrassed and worked hard to optimize the Exynos 990 drivers..
Heya, I’ve been looking into getting a new phone, and I’m wondering if this one still holds up in 2022? Hardware-wise, it has pretty much everything I’m looking for; but I’m worried about the software being too “outdated”. Namely the version of android and Bluetooth.
@@slothful2039 The software honestly isn't an issue, and will get upgrades for maybe another year. It's definitely getting the upcoming OneUI 5.0 (Android 13). I'd say it's totally future-proof for another 12-18 months for a power user, and 2 to 3 years for average users. Your real concern should be battery life. It's more or less on par with the Samsung flagship standard, but can't compete with, say, the iPhone 13/OP10 series.
@@slothful2039 snapdragon 865+ will pretty much handle any game right now, because mobile processors are getting better but the games aren't. You don't have to worry
With note 20 and note 20 ultra is coming at 256gb as base in UK to compensate for the exynos variant but exynos was good with s7 to s9 but with s10 and s20 series a lot people where saying it had bad battery life overheats a lot after a hour of use I dont ive had my s9 plus exynos for since release and haven't had performance issues and also on the s9 series the multi and single core where higher then the snapdragon on the s8 and s9 series but it looks like the went down badly twice with s10 and s20 series the only time I believe snapdragon had problems overheating with 810 and 820
Do other countries have tech fan boy culture like in the US. People adapt brands like the adapt religions over here. I wonder if that is part of it OR are there tariff issues that allow one processor over the other in the US?
Be there. We will be waiting for your return. People usually use one plus or other phones once, and then notice the huge difference. Then they silently return.
Same, Im moving on from my S9+, I was thinking about buying a S20+ but I gave up since I only find Exynos models which I started to dislike over the years..
In India, they have been dumping Exynos in almost every Samsung Phone. Even the flagships come with Exynos 990 SoC. It is a major deterrent when you could get SD 865 elsewhere in the world.
It's super easy to know which version you're getting by the model number. If the model number ends with the letter u. It's for the United States and then there are different variations of that model number after the u which designates the carrier
Honestly, I had the Exynos version of the S20+ and almost had the same battery life as my 4-year-old S7 Edge which is not even funny for such an expensive phone. Samsung either provide the same product to everyone or do what OnePlus does and release the phone to only a certain part of the world.
Don't worry. I have the s10e for a year now and the battery drains like crazy i don't know why. Inatagram for example, i don't even use it but it says active time: 20 minutes and background:1h 40min draining 8%. I don't know why this battery is doing this
I went with oneplus 8 pro over s20+ exynos from note 9 this year, price difference was only about 20€ the s20+ more expensive. My toughs are that the oneplus software feels "chinese" unfinished unpolished, the community is also very toxic, performs very well in games better than my friends s20+, but in everyday use apps the s20+ is as fast and a lot better because of the one ui.
@@DlFane That instagram thing I have noticed across all facebook apps. Try to use Greenify or disable all push notifications. Also clear those apps from your memory. Same thing happens even on AOSP.
They can use both in order to promote competition, but they should differentiate phones both in name and the price. They are trying to use their brand to abuse users trust and sell phones to people who don't do much homework when looking for a phone.
I think the problem is that Samsung has more control over the production of the Exynos over the Snapdragon processors. They have two separate versions because they want their own in house processor to take precedence but they cant beat Snapdragon so they cheat and sell the better processor to the markets they care more about as to not lose face while trying to get the Exynos chip to compete. Kinda scummy but i can understand their desire to have more control over the processors they use in their phones, they have the same issue with Android and Google. Their phones uses Googles Android OS, but they really don't like that and try to find a way around it by using their own in house OS, which can't compete with Android so they lose performance and piss people off.
It's not even funny at this point, Samsung have to sort this! Great vid 👊
Omg
You did a note series.. how'd u forget the processor 🧐
Just saw your 1 mil vid again your are amazing
Arun, we don't keep doing benchmarks on our phones everyday. Neither we run them back to back. None of the apps stress the phones like benchmarks. Also, are benchmarks really that important?
This is the first person makin' Exynos vs Snapdragon on Samsung S20 👍 GO Hype
Perhaps "Ultra" should be reserved for the snapdragon processor.
Yes, the dragons deserve it.
Definitely, and the ordinary model should carry their in house Exynos processor for a lesser price point...
Then note 20 "plus" is the name for exynos variant.
@@joshuaodoro2546 it should already be a lot cheaper. It's crazy what you get for $1000 when $700 phones are almost the same
Yeah imma stick to my xr 🤣
"If it acts like a different phone, It should be called a different phone." - best quote in a while
Definitely should be called a different phone
Yep, Zack is spot on here. He's more than qualified to call out Samsung on this point.
👏👏👏
True. would be so easy to call it Note 20 E and Note 20 Q
Even if they call it the same name the price should be different.
I really hate how they're cheaping out on some markets without lowering prices.
And claiming its the same phone when it clearly isn't
It's fucking criminal bro.
when you covnert the currency, the uk version is MORE EXPENSIVE and EXYNOS !!!
And increasing too. My s10e cost the same as the S10 in the US and had the exynos.
Well that's not right here in Iraq selling Qualcomm at 1300$ and Exynos at 979$
I can fry eggs on my exynos s10+, snapdragon can't do that. I call that a pretty fair deal.
Same.
Scamsung
😅😅
Lol my exynos S10+ is still rocking.
Not defending samsung,but my S10+ with the exynos cpu,doesnt get hot or even near that,yes it gets warm sometimes ,but far from hot. I dont play demanding games often but I still use cpu heavy apps frequently. So dunno about that :D .
Performance should be the same, otherwise the price must be different.
Thank you, you've summed up the whole video in a single sentence.
the price IS different, asian version is cheaper
You'd better wacth this video again as much as you can until you get what Zach mean
@@leidakpi2809 I'm curious, what do you think Zach meant?
Trung Bui there is no Asian version of the phone, it’s called “International” a.k.a non-American model
I had a fight with Samsung store as they never sell Snapdragon in India, so I had to drop S20 and went with M51. They also never had the 512Gb version available like the USA variant in India. Samsung knows the market very well and knows how to play it very well. People pay the same money ask over the world but still this how they get treated.
samsung is a scam business.
Yeah It is very unfair. Samsung thinks that only very developed country should get the best phone but NOT.
WE SHOULD ALSO GET TREATED LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.
@@YashwanthMYATand now in India people are brain washed that samsung is best
Samsung used exynos 1480 in a55 which is a 20k segment processor
At least Apple sells the same shit everywhere. @@Gyomei_the_strongest_hashira
I’m so glad to see more big youtubers covering this lately. This isn’t even a recent problem, it’s been a long running trend that Samsung’s Exynos phones have worse performance and battery life than the snapdragon counterparts.
Case in point is my Exynos Note 8 that has UI stutters at 1440p resolution and lasts half a day while brand new.
The delta between snapdragon and Exynos is the largest it’s ever been this year, and honestly if that’s what it takes to get people to bring it up, so be it. I absolutely hate this business practice.
so do I
Well that Exynos generation were superior than Qualcomm. Qualcomm began to be more powerful since 845.
Josué M. I can tell you from experience with the phone that it very well is not. Especially in terms of battery life
@@alolanstarboy Bro I remember when I carried S8+ exynos and that thing give me 2 days of battery life... Your Phone is almost 3 years Old, that's why your battery life sucks!!
@@alolanstarboy ı have an s8 and no. Its not worse than the qualcomm. That problem came with the s9 (a pretty big difference of cpu power, heat, battery) and the s10( a smaller difference) but if you look at any benchmark, s8 is the same and s7 exynos is better also s6 and the ones before
Jerry : *analyzes different processors*
Samsung: " Oh no ! Anyway..."
Damnn hahahahahaah
🤣🤣🤣
I have also seen that clarkson meme
Samsung: GREAT NEWS!
Jerry: WHAT?
Samsung: The new Note 30 is coming to the uk!
Jerry: The what?
“Anyway, take a look at our other phone that goes bendy”
“IF IT ACTS LIKE A DIFFERENT PHONE IT SHOULD BE CALLED A DIFFERENT PHONE”
Words of wisdom
Or offer a suitable discount for the performance and battery on the process Exynos chip.
and should have a different PRICE
The heat difference and battery performance is huge.
Exactly
Actually we need to sign a petition ang get 16% our money back for the exynos based models.
Note. I own S 20 note ultra exynos
No bro go with Exynos
With a plastic back right?
Buy another flagship
S20 Note Ultra Exynos
A yes love that phone
Can it really be done?
So you’re buying the “same” phone with same name and same price, but one perform worse? Isn’t that a scam?
Oh it is indeed...
even better, in the europ, we can buy these scamsungs for much higher price than real snapdragon samsungs in the rest of the world
Lets wait for a class action lawsuit to pop up
the more you know
@@FPKcz The "real" version is the Exynos one because Exynos is Samsung's chip line.
parents: we don't have favorites. you are all equal to us
also them:
xd
Jerry sounds like he's calm on the outside but is gonna murder the whole samsung department responsible for this mess.
No wonder Samsung fired the entire team that built the Mongoose cores of the older Exynos CPUs
Zach... His name is Zach..
@@iamjorellr Zack
Jorell Rutledge Zack...His name is Zack..
Jorell Rutledge I knew someone would say that 😂
Yeah! Thank you Zack!
Hope this is the last phone with country defined processors...🤦♂️
Yoo you watch carwow as well right?
Me too!
It's not the first, ans it won't be the last. I don't know why people are getting pissy about it NOW, if you didn't give a shit for the last decade.
@@pvshka People are giving it more importance now because the difference becomes larger the more time it passes, 5 years ago exinos had the upper hand and users from the US were complaining about having the inferior variant
@@ARPiG3 yes 😅🙏
I've commented about this before with other reviews. This should generate a lawsuit, it's nothing short of misrepresentation and should be below Samsung.
They look the same, they cost the same, but one of them has 50%ish worse graphic performance and about 20% worse cpu performance. I can't believe samsung is getting away with this.
LMAO
where i live they don't coast the same , you can get the ultra with live buds for 999$ and the note 20 with the live version for 777$
@@اوابعبدالهاديماجد these are not different models. These are both N20Ultras. They have different processors.
Alec Whatshisname exactly. That’s the problem
How is this.possible.....
Same model different chip same price but performance is differ..... why they do this
Xiaomi: Sells the 'same' phone whit different names (Redmi k30 pro-POCO f2 pro)
Samsung: Sells different phone in the same name.
They sell them with different names to adapt and call the attention of different places in the world, is like when they change the OS to a more western style, so that it doesn’t feel odd
Who says the experience is 100% same. Exynos chip performs terrible when you use graphic i tense contents. It almost freezes at some point and heats hotter than clothes iron. So, you don't need an extra iron for your clothes if you have Samsung phone especially exynos version. Totally Fu*k off Samsung, cheater. Don't act like a flagship phone producer if you can't be honest to the customer. Gradually everyone will know their bad intense and one day may be everybody will change their mind from Samsung to other brand like Apple, Xioami, OnePlus, and so on
Sunkaji Syuba Apple is a even bigger scam
@@ducjduck may be but at least their devices do not performs terrible like samsung does.
As a Samsung user and someone who lives in Europe thus gets the Exynos version (S9+) I find it very sad that this is happening... Not that I've ever noticed any significant issues but it does suck to know that one pays the same amount for an inferior version.
Luckily there are some rumors of Samsung dropping the development of Exynos and teaming up with AMD to make better chips in order to challenge Qualcomm. Hope that happens asap and goes well cause competition is always good for the customer and it'll hopefully bring an end to this Exynos fiasko.
-Gives Europe and Asia a downgraded version (and probably loads of other places)
-Costs more than Snapdragon versions
Bruh
accounting for currency conversions, it's more expensive in Europe
@@Connie_TinuityError ikr
They cost more in Asia and low quality
Costs *more actually the Ultra is $1565 here in Africa and it's trash Exynos
My guess is: US forced samsung to use qualcomm's chip, or they won't be able to market them in the US.
So the original design was using exynos chip, but just to be able to market them in the US, they used SD. It just so happen that the SD was better than exynos.
Just my guess....
Zach: This is probably my last phone
Apple: Guys if our next phone doesn’t survive where toast
One plus: We have a few years to prepare
I actually cancelled my order for Note 20 Ultra just because of the Exynos, Norway here
Same here dood.
Glad you didn't give your money to samsung
good 4u bro.
same...I was actually excited for the note 20 ultra until I saw the price and specs. I'm so sick of samsung treating a lot of its client base as second class citizens, and I'm glad its coming back to bite them. Who knew that ripping off your consumer base was not a very good business strategy?
I imported a korean N20U and love it :D
"If it acts like a different phone it should be called a different phone"
~JRE2020
JRE read as Joe roegan exp in in my mind xD
@@betterspelt4105 I read it as JAVA Runtime Environment :)
So the Exynos is less powerful, gets hotter, and drains the battery faster? Nice job, Samsung.
and also more expensive
@@unliving_ball_of_gas agreed..
Ikr we country who have exynos 990
Pay for the same price why do we have the bad one
I tested my smartphone against my desktop and, believe it or not, the exynos manages to get more fps/W than my threadripper despite being a lot weaker than the snapdragon of my previous smartphone.
Samsung sucks at silicon, what did you expect? They can't even crank out Nvidia's chips within a reasonable timeframe, and their efficiency gets assfucked by that of TSMC.
Upon the unsealed of the cooling system, I would take one more benchmark after swapping back the cooling to it own and see the difference of the result again.
You mean unsealing
@@stephensnell5707🤓
Samsung trying hard to push the customers away with ridiculous prices, major chipsets differences yet charging the same, removing 3.5mm jack after making fun of others removing it.
Tbh, ppl should stop complaining about the jack. Most already have at least 1 pair of wireless headphones/earbuds and I dont even feel its need anymore
And people are still buying their phones so they'll continue even after way too many exposing videos get uploaded
Make note 20 expensive so people buy note 10
@@raresradoi39 well i don't have wireless earphones because I don't like them
Sun Flower Apple, and Samsung arnt innovative since years at this point. I feel Chinese brands took over now. Btw this is from an Apple fan lol
Snapdragon : Samsung
Exynos : Scamsung
ScamSome
Exynos: Samsung
Snapdragon: TSMC (designed by Qualcomm)
Shamesung
Maybe Samsung is one of President Trump's Crownies why else ban China force Apple to make U.S manufacturing parts and us Samsung's American made chips and other stuff.
President Trump is just like Biff from back to the future
Fresh joke മോനെ
"If it acts like a different phone, it should be called a different phone"
Well Said...
I'll agree if the only thing you do with this phone is run benchmarks. Samsung will prevail in court because no one will be able to pass a blind test or an experience based test.
@@ymx777 If that's true, I wonder why Samsung doesn't just use the Exynos in all regions? I assume they generally would prefer to use their own processors, and it's cheaper to do so. So unless there's some weird reason that the cheaper processor varies by region (or something like that), I presume it's because the Snapdragon processor does in fact run better.
@@ids1024 My guess it's due to cost and patent strategy. Qualcomm owns a lot of patents in wireless, especially in America. And maybe samsung owns a lot of wireless patents in other regions. As a result samsung might have no choice but to use two separate processors. If you were a business, why would you not try to use the cheaper of the two everywhere if you can help it? I'm certain they didn't do it so TH-camrs can make money criticizing their perceived business mistake, or to do intentional harm to the customer.
@@ymx777 dude it's hella hot to use.
Watching this video felt like Samsung became an official Chinese imitation. They are doing the same thing what the Chinese imitators doing...
5:07
A very minor detail is that the EXYNOS have 4 network bands while SD has up to 5 or 6, depending on the model. in my case Galaxy Note 9 has 5 bands, while my brother with Note 10 Exynos has only 4.
SnapDragon version: Samsung
Exynos version: Scamsung.
nice one
how about instead of calling them out in videos, get onto your platforms and speak up
Lol!
I live in France and had to order the Qualcomm version from another country. If Samsung doesn’t change, this would be my last one from them.
The thing is what's left to buy? I see only apple and maybe OnePlus, and that's all. Huawei is lost google play and i can't see any big and decent manufactors of phones to choose from. (of course i'm talking about flagships)
@@Frostecc check xiaomi flagships
@@Frostecc Check out Asus Zenphone and ROG Phones. They have flagship features and okayish cameras. If you don't mind using GCam mods then, Asus is good.
@@amin_Darkeyes no Xiaomi sir, I'm done with that
buy OnePlus
Finally someone with an audience is talking about this, not just the weekly r/galaxys10 post with 30 upvotes...
Lol, I have literally commented in most of the Exynos Vs Snapdragon posts on r/galaxys10 and I get downvoted everytime cause everyone is like "They don't notice any difference" or "My Exynos S10 is still very smooth". It just feels like people are trying to justify why they bought a mid tier phone for a flagship price
@@sahilhuzoor5155 coming from a windows phone performing the same for 5 years I am deeply disappointed in my s9 plus performing worse over time and it is not even that old yet.
@@berend109 same.
@@berend109 have you tried xda? Rummor has it that android phones (if done correctly) are like pcs - install what you want how you want and work how you want. Even google understood that once upon a time (kitkat days).
Chichi loca
Imagine if them sell exynos in USA and snapdragon for the rest of world, how about...
hohoho... they know in US they will be eaten alive :)
BTW, lots of countries have "law against inferior product" use them.
US focused on South Korea, not longer with North Korea.... 🤣
@@gunturtototrian7002 guntur ah bro needhi ?
US consumers would sue them.
@@Edinburgh1000 You can't understand why people are angry about having an inferior processor while also paying the same price as the same phone with a superior processor ? How dumb can you actually be ? Not to mention using your "coca cola" pathetic example makes no sense here.
I live near the Qualcomn HQ so just tell me when boys
now
Please ask them if I can get a processor upgrade on my old QC ;)
Lmao
Whats the plan??
Let's storm the exynos one instead
When phone buff doesn't do the snapdragon vs exynos test
Zack : Fine I will do it myself
Lol
😂😂😂
Samsung in the US: Samsung
Samsung everywhere else: *Scamsung*
MKBHD is samsung's official ass wipe... Anything Samsung puts on the table for him is perfect...
@@abubakaridi7200 just don't watch him? People like different things.
@@andrewg6127 I own a Samsung S20 ultra and a mi note 10 and I feel I've over spent on that stupid Samsung chipset... Anyways I only bought the Samsung for brand name...
@@abubakaridi7200 buying only for brand name was a stupid decision on your part. MKBHD reviews US models, and the US models are amazing
@Tech Travel Lifestyle I bet you that if MKBHD had seen that note 20 ultra's design on another product he'll lay curses on em...
It's the same story with the S22 Ultra. I love my phone but if I needed more power, I'd have imported a Snapdragon model.
The EXYNOS variant should be at least 15 to 20 percent cheaper
Well, it's not going to be cheaper with the same percentage as the cpu speed, since they are selling a phone with that cpu, but it should be cheaper.
It should have a different name. Note 20 Exynos or something with the SOC savings passed onto the customer.
Exynos has no backdoor, spyware unlike snapdragons
for them it is hahaha, more money baby, Exynos is their own chip so they get to keep their money circulating inside the company. Its just a matter of book keeping ;)
Yes it is over priced.
2:40
Even Clock Time-Wise, Snapdragon is faster!
fuak that is amazing i didnt pick that up, that was the final nail in the coffin im sold
that is just sad
samsung needs to get its stuff together
Lol
Tafara Manzou unpatcherx fan? U gonna jailbreak iOS when it releases?
that's why apple chooses tsmc to manufacture their chips rather than Samsung !!!!!!!!!!
Snapdragon: SAMSUNG
Exynos: SCAMSUNG
youre ignorant
Ok
It's not really a scam when it has cost them a fortune to manufacture and develop. You're just another dumb slave who probably thinks COVID is real.
@@girlsdrinkfeck no they're spitting facts. I hate paying full price in Australia and getting a shitter product.
@@StopMediaFakery so youre saying its not real?
Or you are trolling
Everybody: Samsung Explain this
Samsung: No, we don't do that here.
"If it acts like a different phone, It should be called a different phone." - Zack 2020
What if it quacks like a different phone?
yeah in old model.. the differnt not much but newer one.. this is a joke...and it cost the same...
@Me Too If one phone is slower, it's not acting the same as the other one.
@Me Too be quiet u samsung defender, blame ur feelings out to the whole world and nothing will ever change
Do you realize one says Ultra 5G and the other doesn’t
Jerry Dig Everything just triggered a class action lawsuit
Let's hope not! Class action lawsuits are great for the FIRM, they get millions and every customer gets a check that cannot even cover dinner for 3 at Chik-fil-A. And next year's phone comes in just a box with zero accessories and is $100 more. No thanks!
No one:
Srini Aero: Jerry *'Dig'* Everything
I wish you and Jerry knew what you are talking about.
@LRN Vital I'm a Samsung fan but I gotta agree with u
LRN Vital not only Britain and India.... There are other countries in the world that receive the shitty exynos
Samsung after seeing this...- holy crap we forgot Jerry exist
High key though
😆
Samsung = trashsung
@@BattleTested i smell apple
@@BattleTested cringe
The difference between these two variants are huge but Samsung is still selling two variants for the same price? Shame on you Samsung, shame on you.
Samiur Rahman It’s actually more expensive in my country like 10% more
US actually gets the cheaper phones...
@kumar sangam
What? It drops a few months after release, why wait 2 years.
Nah, you’re wrong. The worse phone is actually more expensive.
after using snapdragon note8 and 9, i migrated to exynos note 10.. it was a huge mistake
give it to me then
Burn it
What do you do with your phone where you can tell the difference? Just wondering
@@IanSFX Use it. Battery life is terrible on exynos.
@@IanSFX The Battery
That Exynos phone should be sold cheaper, then it's good.
Yes in Iraq it costs 999$ for the Ultra with new Samsung buds for free
only if they name the phone the ''note 20 ultra -'' or ''note 20 ultra exynos'' you can't be allowed to confuse your costermes!
@Montaga then maby we need to change some laws:D
Its 300 usd cheaper in Iraq for the exynos
In Malaysia the N20U with Exynos is USD1253 while a Snapdragon 865 Poco F2 Pro only cost USD386
Thank you Zack!! It's time that someone called them out for not being consistent with builds and naming convention.
In the video his name is Jerry Rig Everything
@@stephensnell1379 yes, but his actual name is Zack
@@Niko-vj5mtto be trurhful his name will be Jerry otherwise the Channel would be called Zack Rig Everything
You're the most unbiased TH-camr i've ever seen, I mean you live in US still you've tested out international version for your subscribers
That's not what unbiased means Sinjin.
Go watch his OnePlus Nord video or any OnePlus video. You will get to see the other side of coin
go on and watch his OnePlus vids and you'll see for yourself.. mrwhosetheboss imo is the only true unbiased tech TH-camr..
@@itszyzzbrah4469 arun knows less tech than Jerry 🙄 - I'm not hating arun but fact!
Samsung: "But . . . we can save money over seas."
Consumer: "Yup! Because we won't buy it!"
That is how it should work the reality is
Consumer: "I'll buy it because I don't follow Jerry and don't know i'm getting cheated"
@@christianbay7614 Except that people are still buying exynos even though they know it's problems and ALL of them try to justify their purchase "the battery life is ok for me". I myself haven't bought it as I'd get the exynos variant and currently have the S10+ exynos (which is a great phone but fuck having an exynos worse battery life). I'm switching to the ROG 3 if I end up liking it. Sadly my order has been delayed 3 times. It was supposed to come 18.8 but it comes 22.9 atm
General customers dont know about processors......so samsung dont care......
Finally Exynos vs Qualcomm in the flesh! Jerry exposed Samsung! Best comparison video between Exynos vs Qualcomm.
His name is zack
3:19 WHY WOULD U DO EXYNOS RED AND QUALCOMM BLUE?????
Samsung’s marketing team going to have a hard time explaining that one out!
I can already see them scratching their heads at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7 😁
Lol
Damn I really felt that when Jerry said that his note 10+ was gonna be his last samsung phone
Same thing happened to me, my first and last Sammy was a Galaxy S8+ (had the Exynos version). Sammy slowed the device down and ruined the battery life via updates over the span of 3 years in which I had the battery changed 6 times in a Samsung service.
You mean Zach?
@@iamjorellr yeah, I meant to say JerryRigEverything 😅
@@iamjorellr you mean Zack
edit: before you argue with me his Twitter handle is Zacksjerryrig
@@iamjorellr I mean why correct him though, he's known as Jerry on the internet so people are gonna call him that. Yeah most people know it's actually Zach but it doesn't really matter imo
Finally someone said it. Samsung has been doing this for a long time.
Loads have been saying it for years.
LMAO how dramatic you sound " the agenda had been exposed" 😂😂😂😂😂
Exynox was better at a point tho
@Vinch that's exactly why I don't see the point of this video
He really wants some views no more
Nothing in this video hadn't been known
Samsung didn't hide that or tried to give an excuse
They stopped producing the chip and they are working on a new chip
(It may come with the S30 or note 30)
Actually in some countries
You can get it cheaper than the snapdragon version
Everyone has been saying this...
I agree but its important to have multiple suppliers. It's just sad that over time the chipsets had such a gap in performance.
What makes it worse is that in some markets it even costs more
Yeah, they cost an insane amount in non western countries
Yup we are getting Exynos 💩
Exactly, like in India, the Exynos variant cost is nearly $1450 (1,04,999 INR) for the base 256gb model.
Animesh Singh
It’s because of export taxes, which are very high in some countries like India.
@@smrtguy77777 no mate samsung manufacture most of their phones here in india for domestic sell & to export also.
They are just ripping us off
Here in Australia they have been selling exynos version of S20 Ultra. That’s not even mentioned on their website.
Same in The Netherlands. You have to dig deep into reseller specs to find it
The same in Saudi they are not mentioning the processor until you ask them
@Sayem AK
Not only in US
Canada
China
Hong Kong
Japan
Brazil
South Korea
They tell you the Qualcomm is for US only, so wouldn't you know?
@Sayem AK exactly
You simply aren't wrong. It should be 1 and the same, or at least close to it. And Samsung knows that the snapdragon is the superior, meaning you get more base memory on that, and extra stuff to compensate...
Yes
@Shourya Sudhakar 2nd lol
True. This's been happening for a long time. Using snapdragon in USA and Exynos everywhere else. A few years ago exynos was better but the tables have changed and now snapdragon is better. Running a S10 at the moment. Probably my last samsung phone.
@Concept Creator S h u t
I agree. The Exynos version has been lagging behind and is known to get pretty hot
Car manufacturers do this all the time... An identical model sold in Mexico will not have all the required safety equipment as the same model sold in the US therefore cheaper but same name.
Zack : Exynos vs Qualcomm
Samsung: *that’s something serious.*
True, mainly since he's one of the tech TH-camrs Samsung acknowledges, so it's pretty certain to say them seeing such a vid being posted means a lot more people are gonna be aware of the difference between the processors, which might hurt their sales and brand image.
Also Samsung: *walks away pretending nothing happen*
I've been waiting for this
Really?
Mee too
Pollution Yes! A lot. Nobody was giving enough importance to this. They were just mentioning it as something to keep in mind but it’s unfair and unprofessional to say the least
-guy from persona 3
Sameee
I don't know why i watch this video again and again.
MrWhoseTheBoss video: Simple to understand
Jerryrigeverything video: Goes into deeper details
Arun: scratches your brain at a level 6
Zack: deeper grooves at a level 7
im on the same topic as you bro/sis?
@@ophirhaddad😂😅😂😅😂😅 This here
Indian?
POCO: "Selling same phones with different name"
SAMSUNG: "Selling different phones with same name"
@DMD Cause America is better than ur Country ! :D
@@himmelskibet even pakistan is better than ur stolen country.. stolen from natives
@Noyre Na its good mate I love it !
@@himmelskibet America is a third world country, yall guys just don''t know it yet :D
@Noyre Yeah I don't live in the US
8:08 And thats why my samsung galaxy note 10+ is probably my last samsung phone.. that hit hard 😥
Yeah... I understand his reasoning, though. Since I live in the US however, I'm safe from this whole Qualcomm Exynos bs
It's my last too that goddamn exynos
on 1000usd
So much respect for jerry
@@benjaminli188 u lucky
I'm just pissed off that us in the UK have to use the international model.
Damn. Why didn't I learn this before. Just bought a S21+ last week which is an Exynos version. 😐
This is a note 20 ultra. Not an s21. Notice how your s21 doesn't overheat? 🤡🤡🤡
@@propersod2390 it's the same deal un the s21+, Qualcomm version Performs better
@@karushogaming2984 no its not. It literally can't perform better. They have the same exact core layout, same exact cores, same exact everything except the GPU and NPU. The snapdragon is SLIGHTLY better in GPU and the exynos has a better NPU. There is literally no difference that matters
Samsung: We are never having another silly note series scandal like the pen getting stuck again!
JerryRigEverything: Here's another scandal.
or exploding phone scandal banned from airlines.
Its not only about note series. Its the same with every galaxy s series phone
@@marekkafarek272 Yeah I'm aware. It isn't really even new news because Samsung has been doing this for years but I have to agree with it being a bit scummy. If you buy a used one you have to check if it's the good one or the less good one. It's just silly.
@@rynolin342 Nobody is asking why they are doing it... its about International laws! Search the reason and then call it scam again
@@_scra9947 I don't see any laws prohibiting Samsung from providing a option of snapdragon in EU or Asia.
Customer: Why this phone has different components than the rest?
Samsung: Oh... Well? We had some usless components that we ordered by mistake and we couldn't return them... And we recycle anything.
😂😆
*cough* Iphone SE 2
@@lightning9396 The Iphone SE2 is one of the best value phones you can get btw.
@@sorcy5467 1700mah battery...
@@sorcy5467 actually id save up and get the iphone 11 instead
Runs hotter
1 generation slower chipset
Worse battery lifespan
Different screen(possibly)
Essentially the same price
Ultra scummy.
International phones are more expensive, actually. Phones in my country can cost between 150%-200% of the original price in official stores
More like Ultra scam
Not in Brazil, the price is actually higher here c:
Different camera sensors.
It has to do with licensing and restrictions on Qualcomm. They can’t use that chip everywhere so they have to go with their own in places that don’t allow Qualcomm
The exynos processor use to be the faster processor back in the day.
I remember when the Exynos came out as an option and people were actually trying to buy the international version because it was better than the Snapdragon offering. My how the times have changed.
*Sad Galaxy S8 noises*
Just like intel vs amd
I remember specifically buying the Exynos version of the Note 4 because the Qualcomm variant was absolute garbage...
@@doodskie999 or like Nvidia vs AMD. Nvidia just completely crushed AMD with their new 3000 series cards on performance and price!
@@isaiahwade1484 compared to what lol?
2 options:
•Give everyone Snapdragon or Exynos Processors.
•Make their Exynos chips BETTER!!!!
3rd option: clearly disclose what you're selling, and price it accordingly
@@pvshka They really need to change their decisions on Exynos or Qualcomm processors. It's not fair that some countries have an advantage over the others.
I miss the days when exynos was much better
There's supposed to be the "new Exynos" with ARM cores (vs the current Mongoose architecture they're currently using) and AMD graphics which looked promising, but based on rumours, it might not here anytime soon...
@@musicalworld2168 yes, obviously, both versions should be available in all markets.
I couldn't agree more. They should remove the "Ultra" tag on the Exynos model.
Last Year Galaxy Note 10+: just a phone
This Year Note 20 Ultra: A fish tank that is too hot
Next year Note 21 Ultra: possibly a hot kettle
Note10+ also hot
*Samsung: Note 20 Ultra with Snapdragon chip*
*'Scam'sung: Note 20 Ultra with Exynos chip*
Additionally its Scamsung NOT 20 ultra for exynos
BIG OFFFF BUDDY
🤣🤣🤙🏻
Employees at Samsung's Exynos division right now/me using an Exynos version of the S9:
*intense sweating*
quite literally because their processors are always so fucking hot
They have already give up researching Mongoose architecture LOL
They are doing it on purpose for profit
Exynos Note 20 Ultra: Who are you?
Qualcomm Note 20 Ultra: I am you, but better
If it's outside, is it a rat? And if it's inside the house, is it a mouse? 😅
*I really went on a tangent or two in this comment. It's mostly me rambling (not sure though, didn't go back to read it, lol). I think the point at which I was trying to arrive - but probably never did - is that I get that the phones weren't advertised as having different processors. However, I knew this before making my purchase. All a person had to do was read the description and specs, or ask about it- they actually had to WANT to know what they were getting for their money. I wanted a good processor, so I looked through all available G. S20+ models, did some research, and bought the more expensive Snapdragon model. I don't remember the phones being the same price..... in fact, the lower prices of some of the phones is partially what drew me to triple check all the specs. One phone for $1200 and the same phone for $900-something.... both brand new.. ? Yeah, I'm gonna be looking at all the details.*
**Don't bother reading the rest of this, You!**
In the summer of 2020, I wanted a new phone. I was constantly running out of space on my old phone (Galaxy S6, 32 GB and no SD slot).
The S6 was losing battery too quickly for my liking, and the inner charging port had loose parts, making it pretty complicated to charge.
Most importantly, I REALLY wanted to play CoD:Mobile.
I liked my brother's Galaxy S10 Plus (all except for the rounded edges- I never understood that feature), but figured I might as well get the newest model, which was the S20 line. So, I started researching. The S20+ had most of what I was looking for (you couldn't just make the screen totally flat?). I would have gotten the Ultra for the GB and the additional camera, but the phone was way too big, and the extra camera was nothing special. Plus, that "Cloud Blue" effervescent color was growing on me.
And I'm finally getting to my point....
I was aware of the difference of one version using Exynos and the other using Qualcomm Snapdragon. I was going to be buying a phone outright- a phone I'd have for at least a few years- so I did my research on every single aspect I could possibly find.
I almost bought the S20+ for under $1,000- until I noticed that it was the EXYNOS model. How the heck was I going to get to Legendary in CoDm with that!? Anyway... I purchased the Galaxy S20+ from Best Buy for $1,199.99.
[ As an aside: There seems to be a weird issue between this phone and the CoDm server. I don't know what the deal is, because the stats for the S20+ are overall better than a lot of the "gaming phones" out there, and I have great network and WiFi connection. But I experience a lot of desync (I meet up with an opponent in match, I empty an entire clip on them before they even notice me or do anything, they shoot me once and I die- but killcam shows them seeing me first, emptying almost an entire clip on *me,* and me not even shooting, not going prone, sliding, jumping, ducking, or even looking anywhere near them....), sporadic lag, crazy wait times, getting kicked from games with a network error code.... and it happens way more in ranked matches than public matches, unfortunately. I tried getting a VPN and playing through another server, but I was kicked two of the times, and CoDm wouldn't even allow me to open the game on another occasion with the VPN on. I don't understand this, because streamers use VPNs all the time. And streamers also seem to have the advantage in the desync... I would have thought it would be the other way around and that the stream running would cause the missed connection. Maybe it works like a lag switch and it desyncs in their favor. I know they're great players, but I just have to wonder sometimes.... what's happening on the other side? ]
Samsung is selling a knock-off version of its own phone in select markets. Disgusting.
Funny thing is, it's not select markets, it's the majority, the snapdragon is the select market version
Most Asian car manufacturers do this as well; they send a premium product to the US and for the same price an inferior product to developing markets. Kia, Hyundai; Nissan; Mazda even Toyota. Exceptions are Subaru and Honda, they maintain same quality.
And they even cost more here in Europe... my S20+ may very well be my last Samsung phone.
@@felipeosorio6772 All car manufacturers do that. Looking at the US and Canadian versions of cars vs the ones they sell in the Latin American market at more expensive prices and yet, less safety features and cutting corners everywhere at the expense of safety and the lives of people involved in crashes.
@@serdiefgotreb The damn northern hemisphere is shitting the southern hemisphere. That's the real truth. Disgusting people.
I wanted to buy one with the Europe version, but after this Video I changed my decision. That’s a no go!
Thanks Jerry!
M Ay the snapdragon bootloader is locked, exynos not. I wouldn’t buy a samsung, but since you want a samsung this might interest you
@@erebostd so there is no way to root the us one? Or it has some trick etc?
@@michaelcorleone2794 it's not worth rooting even if u can manage, only if u have specific apps that u really want and work only with root.
@@michaelcorleone2794 without an option to unlock the bootloader there's no way, no. That's the problem with many devices...
They use SD in Korea, that says a lot about Exynos...
Dump a shoit to another country
Yes They Dump their shit in other countries, similar to China
Umm...I think sd is way much better, but I think qualcomm would raise ther cpu prices when there is no compeditor on the market. We hate exynos, but I think it ia needed. Anyway, amd exynos chip would come out soon.
@Diptangshu Gamer have you ever heard of economics?
I have KT Note 8. It's Exynos. That specific generation was better than the QC version.
Samsung is required to use QC in the US sure to patents. If the market will accept it they'll use Ex to save money.
I remember watching this 3 years ago. Now Ive got my own 20 ultra (qc). Thing rocks.
Samsung to India: We don't do partiality in terms of pricing like the apple & pixel do !
Also Shamesung: Gives Exynos instead of Qualcomm ..
I feel you bro, they do the same here in Europe. It's not fair and that's why I don't buy Samsung.
By your comment it's clear that you want a note20ultra
It's still a great deal if you get for 10k cheaper in india....
It could be fixed by updates or else
Which they won't even think of because of reputation.......... even though these in-house chips are cheaper to manufacture........
@@superheroes3871 no
@@lilcheaty
Don't have choice in android when you need a better camera and updates for the phone......
Literally after chinese ban
Samsung - the only choice
I'm glad Jerry also took this up because I was hugely disappointed when I bought my Note 9 in Nigeria 🇳🇬 and it was Exynos.
PS: the processor also reduces the camera performance and that was the major reason I bought the phone.
Lol if you are buying a phone and most important for you is camera, never pick Samsung, it's pretty overpriced shit on exynos, while on Snapdragon is just overpriced due to super agressive Samsung marketing, just pick Huawei, they specialise on cameras, or pick latest Xiaomi mi 10 ultra
@@Yoxa4 lol have you ever held a samsung from the NA, anyways, joshua next time get a samsung from the NA
@@Yoxa4 Huawei's processors are slower than Exynos processors
@@swollpenispok8172 i think Huawei processers are powered by a better AI
@@DigeiFrunza just leave the EU
And this is exactly why I bought a one plus 8 pro despite being with samsung for years now. Sad but happy with the phone. !
U r not alone tho. Same thing with me. Love oneplus.
And I moved to Pixel 2XL after exynos s7 which at the moment of retirement also had an inadequate battery draining and a burned out screen in the upper part. Couldn't be happier, Pixel experience FTW
Same bro I shifted from s8+ to OnePlus 8 pro
Well if you live in north America then nothing wrong with buying a Samsung.
Same hear..
Nearly 2 years after the release of this phone, Samsung seems to have done some positive optimization on the software end with OneUI 4.
The battery life gap between both variants has narrowed significantly, although the performance gap still remains.
Agreed, my regular S20 with the Exynos 990 was wayyyyy better with the OneUI 4 update. Seems Samsung were indeed embarrassed and worked hard to optimize the Exynos 990 drivers..
@@seezu84 thanks god they did jt
Heya, I’ve been looking into getting a new phone, and I’m wondering if this one still holds up in 2022? Hardware-wise, it has pretty much everything I’m looking for; but I’m worried about the software being too “outdated”. Namely the version of android and Bluetooth.
@@slothful2039 The software honestly isn't an issue, and will get upgrades for maybe another year. It's definitely getting the upcoming OneUI 5.0 (Android 13). I'd say it's totally future-proof for another 12-18 months for a power user, and 2 to 3 years for average users.
Your real concern should be battery life. It's more or less on par with the Samsung flagship standard, but can't compete with, say, the iPhone 13/OP10 series.
@@slothful2039 snapdragon 865+ will pretty much handle any game right now, because mobile processors are getting better but the games aren't. You don't have to worry
This has been an issue reddit has been complaining about for years. Glad to see it being called out.
Imagine still being on reddit in 2020.
@@edurm6766 why tf not
@@edurm6766 where do you expect people to be in 2020 ?
@@edurm6766 what's so wrong with reddit?
Reddit for virgins
Ooops thank God I didn't buy that phone.
Guess who saved me?
My empty WALLET.
😂 lmao
Nice joke😂👊
Same. Also I'm probably gonna get the Note 9 in a year or two. Depends on my budget and how long my J5 lasts.
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Exynos Version Should Name Note 20 Lite, and Price Should Be 30% Less.
No Exynos in China as well.
I agree the 30% price drop but I don't agree that Samsung likes US. Just a weird business world.
With note 20 and note 20 ultra is coming at 256gb as base in UK to compensate for the exynos variant but exynos was good with s7 to s9 but with s10 and s20 series a lot people where saying it had bad battery life overheats a lot after a hour of use I dont ive had my s9 plus exynos for since release and haven't had performance issues and also on the s9 series the multi and single core where higher then the snapdragon on the s8 and s9 series but it looks like the went down badly twice with s10 and s20 series the only time I believe snapdragon had problems overheating with 810 and 820
Do other countries have tech fan boy culture like in the US. People adapt brands like the adapt religions over here. I wonder if that is part of it OR are there tariff issues that allow one processor over the other in the US?
@@daniellove162 its the processor of exynos is bad since the s10 till now
1:36
Samsung cooked real hard with that default wallpaper
Those who got snapdragon: "perfect Samsung"
For others : " Garbage Exynos
I have the note 20 ultra exynose and think its pretty much a perfect phone
@@phase4265 but Exynos still 4G LTE only right?
I heard the US version on snapdragon is better I used to think Exynos performed better and I was confused as to why it was different.
@@YeaNo. lol
@@putukevin5248 nope also has 5g
The exynos is designed to replace your stove, they know their consumers are looking for convenient ways to cook
*cool* way to cook
And with the sharp edges you can cut a potato! amazing kitchen gadget
@@bagustesa they really did include everything including the kitchen sink, stove too
@@addedpole the s pen even works to test if the food is ready. They really thought of everything
@@TechDove lol
"The Note 10 might be the last samsung phone I use , after that I'm gonna branch out " , so will I man
I was going to buy a note 20 as an upgrade from my S9 ,nope not anymore I'll branch out as well.
Be there. We will be waiting for your return. People usually use one plus or other phones once, and then notice the huge difference. Then they silently return.
Same, Im moving on from my S9+, I was thinking about buying a S20+ but I gave up since I only find Exynos models which I started to dislike over the years..
I bought shipped phones from different country just to buy a snapdragon model. What a hassle
Tetete Tetete well, I switched away from Scamsung, went to OnePlus, and now I’m with Apple.
I don’t ever see myself going back.
6:32 Guys I think Samsung added the A13 Bionic Chip Inside LOL
Exynos: Note 20 Ultra
Snapdragon: Note 20 Ultra-est
More like
Snapdragon: note 20 ultra
Exynos: note 20 rip-off
Nugget YT6 i got a good one
Snapdragon: Note 20 ultra
Exynos: Nope 20 ultra
danel 🤣
the cooler danel😎
ultraER*
Exynos: Note 20 Ultra-ish
In India, they have been dumping Exynos in almost every Samsung Phone.
Even the flagships come with Exynos 990 SoC.
It is a major deterrent when you could get SD 865 elsewhere in the world.
It's actually the opposite
everywhere in the wolrd gets Exynos except for some counties that get Snapdragon
Yeah and charge more in India..pretty much sums up their sales figure taking a nosedive..
@@beltek01 you should talk to ur modi for charging 30% tax for every electronic import product wkkwkwkw
@@beltek01
I didn't say i agree with them
And i'm not defending them
I'm just correcting a false information that he has
@@karemhijaze i know bro...i was just stating the facts in my country.
Qualcomm Note 20: you're weak
Exynos Note 20: I am you
the beginning is the end ...n the end is the beginning
Well yes but actually no
No, you're still weak
@Chinmay C. lol. It's from avengers
It's super easy to know which version you're getting by the model number. If the model number ends with the letter u. It's for the United States and then there are different variations of that model number after the u which designates the carrier
Honestly, I had the Exynos version of the S20+ and almost had the same battery life as my 4-year-old S7 Edge which is not even funny for such an expensive phone. Samsung either provide the same product to everyone or do what OnePlus does and release the phone to only a certain part of the world.
Don't worry. I have the s10e for a year now and the battery drains like crazy i don't know why. Inatagram for example, i don't even use it but it says active time: 20 minutes and background:1h 40min draining 8%. I don't know why this battery is doing this
Their mongoose architecture is the slowest ever
I went with oneplus 8 pro over s20+ exynos from note 9 this year, price difference was only about 20€ the s20+ more expensive. My toughs are that the oneplus software feels "chinese" unfinished unpolished, the community is also very toxic, performs very well in games better than my friends s20+, but in everyday use apps the s20+ is as fast and a lot better because of the one ui.
Get a OnePlus lmao
@@DlFane That instagram thing I have noticed across all facebook apps. Try to use Greenify or disable all push notifications. Also clear those apps from your memory. Same thing happens even on AOSP.
I wonder what'll happen if Samsung exclusively use Snapdragon, as everyone asked them. (looking at laptop industry 4-5 yrs ago)
Pasti bakal banyak yang suka bang
how bout keeping the exynos under development longer?
ditunggu reviewnya :)
They can use both in order to promote competition, but they should differentiate phones both in name and the price.
They are trying to use their brand to abuse users trust and sell phones to people who don't do much homework when looking for a phone.
I think the problem is that Samsung has more control over the production of the Exynos over the Snapdragon processors. They have two separate versions because they want their own in house processor to take precedence but they cant beat Snapdragon so they cheat and sell the better processor to the markets they care more about as to not lose face while trying to get the Exynos chip to compete. Kinda scummy but i can understand their desire to have more control over the processors they use in their phones, they have the same issue with Android and Google. Their phones uses Googles Android OS, but they really don't like that and try to find a way around it by using their own in house OS, which can't compete with Android so they lose performance and piss people off.