Those who never make mistakes never make anything. The main problem I have with model road surfaces is that they are far to rough. A couple of years ago I stood o the Spa Bridge in Scarborough, Yotkshire, and looked down at the road about 75' below me (just under a foot if modelling in OO). Apart from a couple of pot holes the road surface looked smooth, there were only variations in the shades of grey. Try a tea strainer if you want a finder sieve.
Thinner glue really did the trick. It really is great way to do roads. Another idea: instead of one color, maybe mottle/stipple shades of gray and black, or brown and tan, or even leaving areas of the bare wood for a bit more variation? Thanks for sharing.
The sand you used is a rather grey kind of colored sand, you could think into the direction of whiter version. In the Netherlands such sand is named silver sand. It is also much finer. Also, for the experiment I fully understand your attempt to cover the whole of the surface road. However, when you would paint the glue in such a way that cracks and potholes are left unglued, you might just have a method to simply create some 3D illusion, where the tar layer seems to be cracking open, or where the potholes create depth. Great experiment, even though the initial results seem somewhat dissatisfying. It shows trial and error in a very educational manner. Especially where you take the time to do the experiment on a separate board. It’s a learning curve for all of us to see and experience.
Hi Vincent, thank you for your indepth comments/feedback, always appreciated. Sand is always going to differ depending on the location it is collected from and in my case, I'm happy with the colour/appearance from my local beach. As I frequently mention, it is a representation that I'm aiming for, and not super-realism or prototypical fine detail. I also didn't want to go for the rundown road surface but one that might have been recently resealed to imply a bit of street pride for the pub and farmers market.
Julian love watching your inovative modeling skills you proved your point in take 2 you realy are a perfectionist -but honestly there was nothing wrong with the first attempt-im watching and learning from you and many others on u tube before i start constructing my own layout -all steam orientated- keep up the good work -regards mike rees 😎😎😎
Just found your channel. Love what l am seeing. It's nice that you put in your failures as I was being to think that I was the only one who's ideas didn't work. Keep up the good work.
Glad to see it worked. I wonder if it was also down to a different absorption rate between the paper you used on the layout and the piece of board? Though it's hard to see how that would have an effect given the paint must have sealed the board. Good to see you maintained your humour throughout. Nice experiment and I like the end result.
Quite possibly absorption rates played a part, but it more or less worked out in the end. I think it's important not to get too caught up in mishaps or failures and see the funny side to these situations, it can actually be quite entertaining when I play it back.
As others have suggested, perhaps blending different colours of paint before applying the sand my yield good results to help simulate the variatios in colour you get on roads where the tyres have worn on the asphalt.
Hey there. I've been watching all your videos and was interested in your experiment with the road texture... Would you be able to get a good, realistic road texture using the method you already have, and then spraying the sand with paint afterwards? A light painting with an air brush, or perhaps spray paint on top would possibly work? Keep up the good work! Layout looks great and am looking forward to seeing more!
Am I seeing the woodgrain thru the various shades or is it brush strokes or light reflection? Irrespective, a great method. If you’re doing a dirt track, have you considered using real dirt in lieiu of sand?
@@StationRoadModelRailway I agree, it looks like a gravel road. In the past I've used a combination of paint base, scatter, ballast and dirt to obtain different shadings. Sand would be a good alternative to the fine ballast I used.
Those who never make mistakes never make anything.
The main problem I have with model road surfaces is that they are far to rough. A couple of years ago I stood o the Spa Bridge in Scarborough, Yotkshire, and looked down at the road about 75' below me (just under a foot if modelling in OO). Apart from a couple of pot holes the road surface looked smooth, there were only variations in the shades of grey.
Try a tea strainer if you want a finder sieve.
Thinner glue really did the trick. It really is great way to do roads. Another idea: instead of one color, maybe mottle/stipple shades of gray and black, or brown and tan, or even leaving areas of the bare wood for a bit more variation? Thanks for sharing.
The sand you used is a rather grey kind of colored sand, you could think into the direction of whiter version. In the Netherlands such sand is named silver sand. It is also much finer.
Also, for the experiment I fully understand your attempt to cover the whole of the surface road. However, when you would paint the glue in such a way that cracks and potholes are left unglued, you might just have a method to simply create some 3D illusion, where the tar layer seems to be cracking open, or where the potholes create depth. Great experiment, even though the initial results seem somewhat dissatisfying. It shows trial and error in a very educational manner. Especially where you take the time to do the experiment on a separate board. It’s a learning curve for all of us to see and experience.
Hi Vincent, thank you for your indepth comments/feedback, always appreciated. Sand is always going to differ depending on the location it is collected from and in my case, I'm happy with the colour/appearance from my local beach. As I frequently mention, it is a representation that I'm aiming for, and not super-realism or prototypical fine detail. I also didn't want to go for the rundown road surface but one that might have been recently resealed to imply a bit of street pride for the pub and farmers market.
Great follow up experiment!
Julian love watching your inovative modeling skills you proved your point in take 2 you realy are a perfectionist -but honestly there was nothing wrong with the first attempt-im watching and learning from you and many others on u tube before i start constructing my own layout -all steam orientated- keep up the good work -regards mike rees 😎😎😎
Just found your channel. Love what l am seeing. It's nice that you put in your failures as I was being to think that I was the only one who's ideas didn't work. Keep up the good work.
great video again. Good test results - thanks Kevin
Great update Julian. In Holland we say: the persistent wins!! Cheers Onno.
Ah. A fellow perfectionist. Great result Julian.
Glad to see it worked. I wonder if it was also down to a different absorption rate between the paper you used on the layout and the piece of board? Though it's hard to see how that would have an effect given the paint must have sealed the board. Good to see you maintained your humour throughout. Nice experiment and I like the end result.
Quite possibly absorption rates played a part, but it more or less worked out in the end. I think it's important not to get too caught up in mishaps or failures and see the funny side to these situations, it can actually be quite entertaining when I play it back.
As others have suggested, perhaps blending different colours of paint before applying the sand my yield good results to help simulate the variatios in colour you get on roads where the tyres have worn on the asphalt.
Absolutely, this method would be great way to create a patchwork of roading repairs.
Hey there. I've been watching all your videos and was interested in your experiment with the road texture... Would you be able to get a good, realistic road texture using the method you already have, and then spraying the sand with paint afterwards? A light painting with an air brush, or perhaps spray paint on top would possibly work? Keep up the good work! Layout looks great and am looking forward to seeing more!
I would say most definitely. I imagine you could even brush a paint colour over the road texture.
Hi julian great video mate well done a good job clive
Am I seeing the woodgrain thru the various shades or is it brush strokes or light reflection? Irrespective, a great method. If you’re doing a dirt track, have you considered using real dirt in lieiu of sand?
Most definitely real dirt would be the way to go for a dirt track. My thoughts were the sand on timber looks a bit like a gravel road/track.
@@StationRoadModelRailway I agree, it looks like a gravel road. In the past I've used a combination of paint base, scatter, ballast and dirt to obtain different shadings. Sand would be a good alternative to the fine ballast I used.