Philippians 2:27 For indeed, he was sick almost unto death; but God had mercy on him, and not only on him but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.
I really feel a person should have a walking-talking relationship with God before going to seminary. Too many ministers seem to know theology but they don't know the heart of God. They know what the bible says about the heart of God but they don't have a personal relationship with the Father.
@@StandinthylotI posted this evidence ...I believe in the gift of healing even today, however, I don't believe people have that gift "on demand." The only one who could heal on demand was Jesus. An example of this in scripture is Paul. Paul healed people in Acts 19:11-12, but he couldn't heal Epaphroditus in Philipians 2:25-27 or Timothy as shown in 1 Timothy 5:23 (see scriptures below). Acts 19:11-12 (NIV) says "God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them..." Philippians 2:25-27 (NIV) "But I think it is necessary to send back to you Epaphroditus, my brother, co-worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger, whom you sent to take care of my needs. For he longs for all of you and is distressed because you heard he was ill. Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow." Paul tells Timothy in 1 Timothy 5:23 (NIV) "Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses."......why didn't Paul just send him a handkerchief for healing? 🤔
Jesus heals, but there is no such a thing as Jesus heals at command, Jesus heals whosoever the Father wills, Jesus on Earth could do nothing without the fathers permission "He said I Can do nothing of my own"
@@Standinthylot Is comprehension really dead...this has nothing to do with the Trinity, the question posed here was about people having that power. As for Jesus, the whole point of the Trinity is that they are One. In that same verse u quoted it says "For whatever the Father does, the son does also." Because you misunderstand that verse, it's not telling that the Son is powerless but that you cannot separate the Father and the Son. Otherwise how can He state that He can do what the Father does but the Father can heal on command but not Jesus, He would be lying then. However that was far from Corey's point, his question was posed to us, read and comprehend. I used Jesus as an example, He snapped His fingers and things happened instantly, no ifs or buts. Stick to that issue, *if I'm wrong, who else has shown that kind of power?*
I start with define healing. Healing on earth instantly? Or through death, ending their earthly suffering? God alone has the ability to approve or deny healing of the physical body. Often times God is causing to work our faith, perseverance, and long-suffering muscles to grow in perfection over just giving us as we ask. In the end He is in control over our desires and expectations. In a short answer, no. God is the ultimate authority when it comes to healing.
I believe that some people dedication to logic cancels out their faith on somethings. Everything shouldn’t require an explanation and all steps in God’s processes aren’t known. God does as God pleases. Somethings will never be understood in this life time and we should have peace with that. XYZ123 believers just bother my spirit sometimes. It all hasn’t been revealed yet but we take positions as if it all has. Love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind.
I've heard a couple of what seemed like quite reliable accounts of instant miraculous healing, but they always said the person who did it wouldn't give their full name and asked them not to tell anyone.
Mr Corey(love you. I listen to you atleast once a day to keep the devil away😉), all I am saying is this; the people who believe in God's willingness to heal get more manifestations than those that leave it to "chance" i.e God being in the mood that day. Even when Winger did that video on Benny(and I think it was necessary), there were people in the comments who said they were healed at his conferences despite their current thinking that he is crooked. The same can hardly be said about the likes of Mike, who are more solid teachers in my opinion. So, I think you people miss it somewhere. You err on the side of extreme caution.
Firstly It's called the "Gifts (plural) of healing" secondarily it worketh "as the Spirit will" if you don not know this you will have a big misconception about healing, the gifts of healing is in operation today as Paul said "as the Spirit will" there is a reason Jesus did not heal every one he saw nor did Paul or the other Apostles. All these worketh as the Spirit will
Brother Corey,you haven't come to Africa yet, especially in my country Kenya...we have broadcasting channels of the healing from "apostles",crowds flood those buildings they so call churches in drones, everyone waiting in line to be healed ..😔
Like a spiritual goes into a trance so do some of these prophetess transition from speaking in normal tone and cadence to a trance like way of speaking. I personally knew of Kady who died of breast cancer and was still sayng in her last moments, "I am healed" she thought she woukd be physically healed. At her death the pastor said. The result of her dying was because although she professed healing, she didn't really believe it or she wouldn't have died. That's the pain a hyper charismatic pastor left the family. It was her fault...
I don't usually type in comments, but I would like some help with this..... Matthew 8:14-17 ESV [14] And when Jesus entered Peter’s house, he saw his mother-in-law lying sick with a fever. [15] He touched her hand, and the fever left her, and she rose and began to serve him. [16] That evening they brought to him many who were oppressed by demons, and he cast out the spirits with a word and healed all who were sick. [17] This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: “He took our illnesses and bore our diseases.” Matthew is quoting from the same passage is Isaiah 53, he is applying the "healing" there in Isaiah as physical healing in this text..... It seems at least in the mind of Mathew, the fulfilment of Isaiah 53 also applies to physical healing...... Btw I do agree that it still doesn't say its guaranteed for everyone on this side of eternity. There will be a time where there will be no sickness nor death
Good question, healing isn't guaranteed just like salvation isn't guaranteed for everyone but for those who Put Faith in Jesus. Healing on some occasions requires the faith, in a few instances when Jesus healed people it was their faith that provoked the healing
If any of the gifts are still in effect today, then all of them are, and guess what? the Bible says the same thing first Corinthians 1:7 “God Has given every charismatic gift until Jesus returns!” What book in the New Testament talks about the charismatic gifts, the most ? 1 Corinthians They say this guy AA Alan had the gift of healing even though he was an alcoholic Roman’s 11 The spiritual gifts are given without repentance !
YES, miraculous HEALING still takes place today! However, there is no evidence that anyone has the Apostolic gift to "lay hands" on someone to heal them at will! This would be the Cessasionists position, (who are wrongly accused of not believing in the continuation of miracles).
By arguing that there is no evidence tht someone can heal today, you are by default taking the cessationist position. No one is wrongly accusing you of anything. Your own words betray where you stand. The apostles' ability to heal came from God, not the apostles. That God is very much alive today, just as He was in the 1st century. And contrary to what cessationists believe, it is _God_ who does the work of healing, not the human instrument.
With all due respect, I have the gift of healing. I was prophesied to that healing is in my right hand. I took it with a grain of salt. Then, my Dad was SUPERNATURALLY HEALED last year. He was in the hospital DYING on March 10, 2023. I went to the hospital. 2 days later, he was released from hospice. A week later, his gray hair began turning black from his roots. Please check out my testimony in its entirety. NOBODY GETS THE GLORY BECAUSE MY FATHER ACCEPTED JESUS ON MARCH 10TH!!!! THAT WAS THE BIGGEST MIRACLE ABOVE HIS HEALING.
You may have the gift but God decides who will be healed. God is doing the healing through you. A lot of people don't understand this, you will only be able to heal the ones God want to be healed. People will say, "if you have to gift, go to the hospital and heal everyone." You only going to be able to heal the ones God wants heal.
When we die, many times people say rejoice for they are in a better place. Why did Jesus cry when he learned of Lazarus dying and why did he bring him back to life if he was in a better place?
@@wrinthiak3431Jesus wept because of the ppl's total lack of faith. He kept telling them that He had the power to resurrect Lazarus, and His message kept falling on deaf ears. The ppl assumed He was crying over Lazarus, but Jhn 11:38 says that Christ groaned for a 2nd time. He was visibly frustrated by the fact that they refused to believe anything He told them, so He decided to just show them that he power over death.
You are on the right path. Its not that there arent miracles in the scripture, but its clearly written to have more than one point. The wicked will not understand. Your use of Isa 53 is great to show that not every time someone is healed its physical. And in Most cases its spiritual. This was part of the prophecy of Messiah. Isa 6:8-10. Mat 13:10-15. There is a reason why ezekiel said the people were complaining about him speaking in parables in Eze 20:49. It wasnt so much their understanding but the faith that he spoke the truth. Even the disciples had to ask Jesus to clarify when they were alone with him. Which is also symbolic for us praying to him for underatanding while we are in the secret place. Remember the blind man. What did Jesus aay to him after he was cast out. John 9:35-31. The question is if he came to make those who claim to see blind, then were all the Pharisees who rejected him, all of a sudden physically blind? Think about it. There is a polarity here. Two sides of the same coin type of language. If the Pharisees were made blind just like the prophecy said, and that was the opposite effect that happened to them for their unbelief. If they werent made physically blind, but spiritually blind, then why cant the opposite happen and someone can be born spiritually blind from birth, and then believe and be spiritually healed? This is more important to answer tha you may think. If its about physicall healing then everyone is going to hell end of story because no one is doing these miracles today. But if the interpretation is wrong and its specifically talking about spiritual healing then this could be happenin all over the world today. But if its spiritual and people dont believe and cling to it being physical then the opposite is true and they are unbelievers toward it, being about spiritual healing. In the end there is an entire book called the bible that really describes this as spiritual healing of the eyes of understanding. Eph 1:18. This is why after the blind man was healed he was rebuked of the Pharisees and they told the blind man not to lecture them. John 9:34. In verse 32 it talks about no ones eyes being born blind were open since the world began. This is important. Because its talking about the mystery kept hidden from the foundation of the world. Rom 16:25-26. Remember the religious authority deliberately were not telling these things to people. It was Kept secret not of God, but of Gods rebellious children. Luke 11:52.
@ricksonora6656 passages are important. For example. If you really understand his words everything Jesus says is 90% alluding to old testament but spoken through the language of wisdom which is the prophetic language. For example. Paragraphs. Matthew 23:37. There is a reason why he says o Jerusalem Jerusalem. And why he ends the saying with and ye would not. He's alluding to an old testament passage that we today have divided into different chapters. Originally the Isaia scroll was just one big block of text. And in this one proverbial saying he captures the entirety of Isah 29:1-24 and isah 30:1-15 together in one saying. Woe to Ariel to Ariel, and ye would not. This is whybthe KJV is the best translation. Other translations are still accurate to this text, but the king James translated it word for word. Either they knew something or the spirit was doing a work. Because if you understand everything I already talked about in my original post this only confirms it more. It's about understanding, and How the LORD closed the eyes of the leaders because they didn't Obey his voice. He made it impossible to understand until they come to faith in Christ and believe his words and receive his teaching. This is why in the same passage of Matthew 23 he explains yet again the cause of this and it was clearly because the prophets which are the true servants of God came with a God's teaching and we're rejected and killed, fulfilling end times prophecy of Moses Deuteronomy 32. So that the blood of all the slain for the word of God will come down upon the wicked. This is why Jesus said from abel to Zechariah, and added all of the ones he himself will send after his crucifixion and resurrection. These are the 2 generations. Jesus is the dividing of the 2 generations. Time times Half of time. And the vision of all.
@@PistisAdelphos You can break your writing into paragraphs by hitting Return twice. This will help you organize your thoughts and make your writing more understandable.
@ricksonora6656 just take your time. Originally Hebrew text were written on scrolls and there were no punctuation or paragraphs. They did just fine. Just please take your time. Read the verses and pray.
@@PistisAdelphos Originally, Hebrew didn’t have any vowels, either. That’s how the pronunciation of YHWH was forgotten during the fifth and fourth centuries BC, when they decided God’s name was too holy to speak. We’ve learned a few things about communication, since then. Those who won’t take good advice limit their ability to achieve their goal: communicating. If your goal is just to entertain yourself, writing skills won’t matter. But if you want to get your message across, you won’t resist learning how to improve your writing.
This is beginning to be annoying. First, does God still talk to his people, now does God still heal through his people. For a person who always talks about following scripture, where in scripture does Gods say he does NOT give the spiritual gift of healing to his people anymore. It seems to me, that a lot of you minister believe if you don't have the gift, the does not exist for anyone. That is pretty pompous. God said we will have these gifts. To say these gifts no longer exist today is subtracting from scripture.
Contrary to what cessationists believe, the person who needs healing needs to believe that it's God's will for them to be healed and that He can heal them. It is also up to _God_ to decide who gets healed and when. Cessationists foolishly think of healing as a party trick that someone can perform on demand, and that's precisely why they don't understand how the gifts work. They can't heal on demand like someone can't prophesy on demand.
Why make a whole video requesting and encouraging hesitancy about pursing and operating in the gift of healing? Is that not the antithesis of faith? You're telling me that the church believes that a man walked the earth as God, died, ressurected, and is bodily coming back one day. We believe that some people will spend an eternity in Hell due to their unwillingness to believe the gospel. But healing today, no we don't know about that. We don't see that happening. We need to be careful about that? Don't dare suggest that out lack of faith could be the issue ever? I think our issue and especially here in the west is that deep down we don't really believe what we claim to believe. Maybe we don't see it because we don't really believe.
You anti charismatic guys are really starting to irk me. Just masters at strawman arguments. The Bible clearly states that some people will be given the gift of healing. Are there some people who might try to take credit for it. I'm sure there is. But I doubt most would claim that. Obviously the gift of healing comes from the Holy Spirit. Also the context in the gospels are clear that Jesus did not heal at times because of a lack of faith. Of course he can heal despite a lack of faith. But its clear that Jesus wants us to believe and trust that He will heal us. It's not so much about His Glory. He doesn't need to heal to be glorious. But when he does heal it allows us to see his glory and increases our faith which is always the goal. Jesus talked over and over about faith and its necessity as does the rest of the Bible. We need more nuanced discussion on these issues. A lot of your guys are doing more harm than good.
The hyper charismatic church has caused a greater disappointment with the many I've spoken with all said the same thing. They see people yelling, falling out and writhing around in the floor as demons are cast our, and these people are sincerely seeking deliverance and years pass by and it never happens to them. Today's prophetess with head wear like it would have been back in the days of Jesus, yet Jewsish woman today don't dress looking like Mary the mother if Jesus. Men Prophets who who act like they are transitioning into a trance, spooky. If your not healed or delivered its your fault for not having enough faith. There pushed down instead of falling down. Pandemonium breaks out with tongues and dancing and the pastor orchestrates and condones it along with music that reaches a crescendo. What's emotionalism verse the move of the Holy Spirit and how come their forgotten....
@@jjphank Faith in miracles or faith that Christ was the Messiah? If you look at the context they acknowledged the miracles, but they rejected Jesus as Messiah. So, the real issue was what kind of faith.
@@jjphank The passage doesn’t say they didn’t have enough faith, it would appear they had none. Matthew 13:58 They didn’t believe Jesus was the Messiah, even though they had seen the miracles. “How can He do these things?” It was his hometown and they only thought of him as a carpenter’s son, not as the Son of God.
@@larrytruelove8659 in a hometown faith that he was Messiah elsewhere it’s Faith That he & The father could actually heal or believe Jesus had the power to heal!
no, the reason why you don’t see miracles is , Not much faith in the US just like Jesus hometown because of the influence and shabby Christianity! There’s miracles in the Third World talk to any missionary !
One-off miracles (of any kind) are very different from the gifts. Pentecostals always strawman this. A healing is given to someone who has a medical condition. The gift of healing is given to a minister of the gospel, allowing him an ability to repeatedly heal others. Pentecostals say, if you don’t believe the gift of healing is for today, you don’t believe in healing. They’ll go even further and say you don’t believe God can heal. Cessationists don’t believe God can’t or won’t heal miraculously. They just believe God does not give the gift of healing today.
So you're saying God won't heal because he see that you're suffering. No no no that's not enough. The only way he will heal is so he can be praised. So God o only cares about his self🤔
I say this not to cause division. But I think the part that’s being missed is that the physical state of the person is a result of the person spiritual state. Hence, in summary: pray and they will be healed and if they have sins they will be forgiven. Sin brings about the destruction of the body. We bare our sins in our flesh. Which is why the debt of man’s sin was paid by Jesus Christ. The reason why his death was unwarranted was because he was without sin. Meaning death had no claim on him. This is why he was able to conquer death and man of his own strength cannot. To put it in context: say someone drinks alcohol, this is a sinful act, brought up by temptation to drink that gives way to sin. The action matures and turns into sclerosis which brings about death. The approach I’m hearing here, and correct me if I’m wrong is strictly a theological approach based solely on human understanding.
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HEALING IS ONE OF MANY GIFTS GOD GAVE ME (nurse 25+ yrs.& TIRED😒‼️🙏
Philippians 2:27
For indeed, he was sick
almost unto death;
but God had mercy on him,
and not only on him
but on me also,
lest I should have sorrow
upon sorrow.
The LORD does what He wills!!! Amen!!!
Yes. God still hills physically today
I really feel a person should have a walking-talking relationship with God before going to seminary. Too many ministers seem to know theology but they don't know the heart of God. They know what the bible says about the heart of God but they don't have a personal relationship with the Father.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
My answer is no, only Jesus can heal on command. However, u can pray for someone and GOD heals them.
Sorey but what you said is based on what passage of scripture?
@@StandinthylotI posted this evidence ...I believe in the gift of healing even today, however, I don't believe people have that gift "on demand." The only one who could heal on demand was Jesus. An example of this in scripture is Paul. Paul healed people in Acts 19:11-12, but he couldn't heal Epaphroditus in Philipians 2:25-27 or Timothy as shown in 1 Timothy 5:23 (see scriptures below).
Acts 19:11-12 (NIV) says "God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them..."
Philippians 2:25-27 (NIV) "But I think it is necessary to send back to you Epaphroditus, my brother, co-worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger, whom you sent to take care of my needs. For he longs for all of you and is distressed because you heard he was ill. Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow."
Paul tells Timothy in 1 Timothy 5:23 (NIV) "Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses."......why didn't Paul just send him a handkerchief for healing? 🤔
@@Standinthylot Does Jesus heal on command?
Jesus heals, but there is no such a thing as Jesus heals at command, Jesus heals whosoever the Father wills, Jesus on Earth could do nothing without the fathers permission "He said I Can do nothing of my own"
@@Standinthylot Is comprehension really dead...this has nothing to do with the Trinity, the question posed here was about people having that power.
As for Jesus, the whole point of the Trinity is that they are One. In that same verse u quoted it says "For whatever the Father does, the son does also." Because you misunderstand that verse, it's not telling that the Son is powerless but that you cannot separate the Father and the Son. Otherwise how can He state that He can do what the Father does but the Father can heal on command but not Jesus, He would be lying then.
However that was far from Corey's point, his question was posed to us, read and comprehend. I used Jesus as an example, He snapped His fingers and things happened instantly, no ifs or buts. Stick to that issue, *if I'm wrong, who else has shown that kind of power?*
Changing up time I see. I will wait for my drive home. Enjoy listening on the drive home. Gives me time to digest the content. Thank you sir.
Spot on!🙏🏽
Amen, well said, brother Corey
I start with define healing.
Healing on earth instantly? Or through death, ending their earthly suffering?
God alone has the ability to approve or deny healing of the physical body. Often times God is causing to work our faith, perseverance, and long-suffering muscles to grow in perfection over just giving us as we ask. In the end He is in control over our desires and expectations.
In a short answer, no. God is the ultimate authority when it comes to healing.
God is Sovereign He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy on✝️ there is no formula for healing 🙏🏾
Amen. ❤
I believe that some people dedication to logic cancels out their faith on somethings. Everything shouldn’t require an explanation and all steps in God’s processes aren’t known. God does as God pleases. Somethings will never be understood in this life time and we should have peace with that. XYZ123 believers just bother my spirit sometimes. It all hasn’t been revealed yet but we take positions as if it all has. Love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind.
Great video
God heals by the counsel of his own.will ephesian 1 and11
I've heard a couple of what seemed like quite reliable accounts of instant miraculous healing, but they always said the person who did it wouldn't give their full name and asked them not to tell anyone.
Mr Corey(love you. I listen to you atleast once a day to keep the devil away😉), all I am saying is this; the people who believe in God's willingness to heal get more manifestations than those that leave it to "chance" i.e God being in the mood that day. Even when Winger did that video on Benny(and I think it was necessary), there were people in the comments who said they were healed at his conferences despite their current thinking that he is crooked. The same can hardly be said about the likes of Mike, who are more solid teachers in my opinion. So, I think you people miss it somewhere. You err on the side of extreme caution.
Firstly It's called the "Gifts (plural) of healing" secondarily it worketh "as the Spirit will" if you don not know this you will have a big misconception about healing, the gifts of healing is in operation today as Paul said "as the Spirit will" there is a reason Jesus did not heal every one he saw nor did Paul or the other Apostles. All these worketh as the Spirit will
Brother Corey,you haven't come to Africa yet, especially in my country Kenya...we have broadcasting channels of the healing from "apostles",crowds flood those buildings they so call churches in drones, everyone waiting in line to be healed ..😔
Unafanyan nini hapa kwa calvanists an cessationist?there are people's who were laid hands on when they were sick and got prayed for and became healed
Like a spiritual goes into a trance so do some of these prophetess transition from speaking in normal tone and cadence to a trance like way of speaking. I personally knew of Kady who died of breast cancer and was still sayng in her last moments, "I am healed" she thought she woukd be physically healed. At her death the pastor said. The result of her dying was because although she professed healing, she didn't really believe it or she wouldn't have died. That's the pain a hyper charismatic pastor left the family. It was her fault...
I don't usually type in comments, but I would like some help with this.....
Matthew 8:14-17 ESV
[14] And when Jesus entered Peter’s house, he saw his mother-in-law lying sick with a fever. [15] He touched her hand, and the fever left her, and she rose and began to serve him. [16] That evening they brought to him many who were oppressed by demons, and he cast out the spirits with a word and healed all who were sick. [17] This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: “He took our illnesses and bore our diseases.”
Matthew is quoting from the same passage is Isaiah 53, he is applying the "healing" there in Isaiah as physical healing in this text.....
It seems at least in the mind of Mathew, the fulfilment of Isaiah 53 also applies to physical healing......
Btw I do agree that it still doesn't say its guaranteed for everyone on this side of eternity. There will be a time where there will be no sickness nor death
Good question, healing isn't guaranteed just like salvation isn't guaranteed for everyone but for those who Put Faith in Jesus. Healing on some occasions requires the faith, in a few instances when Jesus healed people it was their faith that provoked the healing
If any of the gifts are still in effect today, then all of them are, and guess what? the Bible says the same thing first Corinthians 1:7 “God Has given every charismatic gift until Jesus returns!” What book in the New Testament talks about the charismatic gifts, the most ? 1 Corinthians
They say this guy AA Alan had the gift of healing even though he was an alcoholic Roman’s 11 The spiritual gifts are given without repentance !
YES, miraculous HEALING still takes place today! However, there is no evidence that anyone has the Apostolic gift to "lay hands" on someone to heal them at will! This would be the Cessasionists position, (who are wrongly accused of not believing in the continuation of miracles).
By arguing that there is no evidence tht someone can heal today, you are by default taking the cessationist position. No one is wrongly accusing you of anything. Your own words betray where you stand. The apostles' ability to heal came from God, not the apostles. That God is very much alive today, just as He was in the 1st century. And contrary to what cessationists believe, it is _God_ who does the work of healing, not the human instrument.
With all due respect, I have the gift of healing. I was prophesied to that healing is in my right hand. I took it with a grain of salt. Then, my Dad was SUPERNATURALLY HEALED last year. He was in the hospital DYING on March 10, 2023. I went to the hospital. 2 days later, he was released from hospice. A week later, his gray hair began turning black from his roots. Please check out my testimony in its entirety. NOBODY GETS THE GLORY BECAUSE MY FATHER ACCEPTED JESUS ON MARCH 10TH!!!! THAT WAS THE BIGGEST MIRACLE ABOVE HIS HEALING.
' But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed'
You may have the gift but God decides who will be healed. God is doing the healing through you. A lot of people don't understand this, you will only be able to heal the ones God want to be healed. People will say, "if you have to gift, go to the hospital and heal everyone." You only going to be able to heal the ones God wants heal.
When we die, many times people say rejoice for they are in a better place.
Why did Jesus cry when he learned of Lazarus dying and why did he bring him back to life if he was in a better place?
Jesus wept because He felt the pain of Mary and Martha.
John Chapter 11 will answer your questions
@@wrinthiak3431Jesus wept because of the ppl's total lack of faith. He kept telling them that He had the power to resurrect Lazarus, and His message kept falling on deaf ears. The ppl assumed He was crying over Lazarus, but Jhn 11:38 says that Christ groaned for a 2nd time. He was visibly frustrated by the fact that they refused to believe anything He told them, so He decided to just show them that he power over death.
Jesus wept because he had human emotion. Fully Man and fully God.
@@CD-ew8wz understood…but I don’t see it as simply a matter of being human…based off what you know
You are on the right path. Its not that there arent miracles in the scripture, but its clearly written to have more than one point. The wicked will not understand. Your use of Isa 53 is great to show that not every time someone is healed its physical. And in Most cases its spiritual. This was part of the prophecy of Messiah. Isa 6:8-10. Mat 13:10-15. There is a reason why ezekiel said the people were complaining about him speaking in parables in Eze 20:49. It wasnt so much their understanding but the faith that he spoke the truth. Even the disciples had to ask Jesus to clarify when they were alone with him. Which is also symbolic for us praying to him for underatanding while we are in the secret place. Remember the blind man. What did Jesus aay to him after he was cast out. John 9:35-31. The question is if he came to make those who claim to see blind, then were all the Pharisees who rejected him, all of a sudden physically blind? Think about it. There is a polarity here. Two sides of the same coin type of language. If the Pharisees were made blind just like the prophecy said, and that was the opposite effect that happened to them for their unbelief. If they werent made physically blind, but spiritually blind, then why cant the opposite happen and someone can be born spiritually blind from birth, and then believe and be spiritually healed? This is more important to answer tha you may think. If its about physicall healing then everyone is going to hell end of story because no one is doing these miracles today. But if the interpretation is wrong and its specifically talking about spiritual healing then this could be happenin all over the world today. But if its spiritual and people dont believe and cling to it being physical then the opposite is true and they are unbelievers toward it, being about spiritual healing. In the end there is an entire book called the bible that really describes this as spiritual healing of the eyes of understanding. Eph 1:18. This is why after the blind man was healed he was rebuked of the Pharisees and they told the blind man not to lecture them. John 9:34. In verse 32 it talks about no ones eyes being born blind were open since the world began. This is important. Because its talking about the mystery kept hidden from the foundation of the world. Rom 16:25-26. Remember the religious authority deliberately were not telling these things to people. It was Kept secret not of God, but of Gods rebellious children. Luke 11:52.
I think I agree.
Hint: Paragraphs
@ricksonora6656 passages are important. For example. If you really understand his words everything Jesus says is 90% alluding to old testament but spoken through the language of wisdom which is the prophetic language. For example. Paragraphs. Matthew 23:37. There is a reason why he says o Jerusalem Jerusalem. And why he ends the saying with and ye would not. He's alluding to an old testament passage that we today have divided into different chapters. Originally the Isaia scroll was just one big block of text. And in this one proverbial saying he captures the entirety of Isah 29:1-24 and isah 30:1-15 together in one saying. Woe to Ariel to Ariel, and ye would not. This is whybthe KJV is the best translation. Other translations are still accurate to this text, but the king James translated it word for word. Either they knew something or the spirit was doing a work. Because if you understand everything I already talked about in my original post this only confirms it more. It's about understanding, and How the LORD closed the eyes of the leaders because they didn't Obey his voice. He made it impossible to understand until they come to faith in Christ and believe his words and receive his teaching. This is why in the same passage of Matthew 23 he explains yet again the cause of this and it was clearly because the prophets which are the true servants of God came with a God's teaching and we're rejected and killed, fulfilling end times prophecy of Moses Deuteronomy 32. So that the blood of all the slain for the word of God will come down upon the wicked. This is why Jesus said from abel to Zechariah, and added all of the ones he himself will send after his crucifixion and resurrection. These are the 2 generations. Jesus is the dividing of the 2 generations. Time times Half of time. And the vision of all.
@@PistisAdelphos You can break your writing into paragraphs by hitting Return twice. This will help you organize your thoughts and make your writing more understandable.
@ricksonora6656 just take your time. Originally Hebrew text were written on scrolls and there were no punctuation or paragraphs. They did just fine. Just please take your time. Read the verses and pray.
@@PistisAdelphos Originally, Hebrew didn’t have any vowels, either. That’s how the pronunciation of YHWH was forgotten during the fifth and fourth centuries BC, when they decided God’s name was too holy to speak.
We’ve learned a few things about communication, since then. Those who won’t take good advice limit their ability to achieve their goal: communicating.
If your goal is just to entertain yourself, writing skills won’t matter. But if you want to get your message across, you won’t resist learning how to improve your writing.
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James chapter 5 is talking about spiritual healing
Did Elijah do miracles? Yes so it’s not just talking about spiritual healing. Per James five
The context is literally speaking on Physical healing
This is beginning to be annoying. First, does God still talk to his people, now does God still heal through his people. For a person who always talks about following scripture, where in scripture does Gods say he does NOT give the spiritual gift of healing to his people anymore.
It seems to me, that a lot of you minister believe if you don't have the gift, the does not exist for anyone. That is pretty pompous. God said we will have these gifts. To say these gifts no longer exist today is subtracting from scripture.
It seems these days that just being “anti-charismatic” is a form of righteousness.
If they truly have the gift of healing..let's both of us go to a hospital and heal them all.
It doesn’t work that way, the person needs to believe they can be healed
Contrary to what cessationists believe, the person who needs healing needs to believe that it's God's will for them to be healed and that He can heal them. It is also up to _God_ to decide who gets healed and when. Cessationists foolishly think of healing as a party trick that someone can perform on demand, and that's precisely why they don't understand how the gifts work. They can't heal on demand like someone can't prophesy on demand.
Why make a whole video requesting and encouraging hesitancy about pursing and operating in the gift of healing? Is that not the antithesis of faith? You're telling me that the church believes that a man walked the earth as God, died, ressurected, and is bodily coming back one day. We believe that some people will spend an eternity in Hell due to their unwillingness to believe the gospel. But healing today, no we don't know about that. We don't see that happening. We need to be careful about that? Don't dare suggest that out lack of faith could be the issue ever? I think our issue and especially here in the west is that deep down we don't really believe what we claim to believe. Maybe we don't see it because we don't really believe.
You anti charismatic guys are really starting to irk me. Just masters at strawman arguments. The Bible clearly states that some people will be given the gift of healing. Are there some people who might try to take credit for it. I'm sure there is. But I doubt most would claim that. Obviously the gift of healing comes from the Holy Spirit. Also the context in the gospels are clear that Jesus did not heal at times because of a lack of faith. Of course he can heal despite a lack of faith. But its clear that Jesus wants us to believe and trust that He will heal us. It's not so much about His Glory. He doesn't need to heal to be glorious. But when he does heal it allows us to see his glory and increases our faith which is always the goal. Jesus talked over and over about faith and its necessity as does the rest of the Bible. We need more nuanced discussion on these issues. A lot of your guys are doing more harm than good.
They’ve swung the pendulum to far on the other side.
The hyper charismatic church has caused a greater disappointment with the many I've spoken with all said the same thing. They see people yelling, falling out and writhing around in the floor as demons are cast our, and these people are sincerely seeking deliverance and years pass by and it never happens to them. Today's prophetess with head wear like it would have been back in the days of Jesus, yet Jewsish woman today don't dress looking like Mary the mother if Jesus. Men Prophets who who act like they are transitioning into a trance, spooky. If your not healed or delivered its your fault for not having enough faith. There pushed down instead of falling down. Pandemonium breaks out with tongues and dancing and the pastor orchestrates and condones it along with music that reaches a crescendo. What's emotionalism verse the move of the Holy Spirit and how come their forgotten....
Jesus’s lack of miracles in His home town because they didn’t believe in Jesus. They believed in healing, they didn’t believe in Jesus.
No, they didn’t have faith
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Faith in miracles or faith that Christ was the Messiah? If you look at the context they acknowledged the miracles, but they rejected Jesus as Messiah. So, the real issue was what kind of faith.
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The passage doesn’t say they didn’t have enough faith, it would appear they had none.
Matthew 13:58
They didn’t believe Jesus was the Messiah, even though they had seen the miracles. “How can He do these things?” It was his hometown and they only thought of him as a carpenter’s son, not as the Son of God.
@@larrytruelove8659 in a hometown faith that he was Messiah elsewhere it’s Faith That he & The father could actually heal or believe Jesus had the power to heal!
Hospitals, clinics and health care services are ever increasing: even in Christian majority countries mainly US of A. So, stick to reality.
no, the reason why you don’t see miracles is , Not much faith in the US just like Jesus hometown because of the influence and shabby Christianity!
There’s miracles in the Third World talk to any missionary !
Now u are talking
One-off miracles (of any kind) are very different from the gifts. Pentecostals always strawman this.
A healing is given to someone who has a medical condition. The gift of healing is given to a minister of the gospel, allowing him an ability to repeatedly heal others.
Pentecostals say, if you don’t believe the gift of healing is for today, you don’t believe in healing. They’ll go even further and say you don’t believe God can heal.
Cessationists don’t believe God can’t or won’t heal miraculously. They just believe God does not give the gift of healing today.
So you're saying God won't heal because he see that you're suffering. No no no that's not enough. The only way he will heal is so he can be praised. So God o only cares about his self🤔
It’s deeper than that , but you’ll never hear the answer on this channel.
@@user-wd5qw5je3j well where can I hear the answer
I say this not to cause division. But I think the part that’s being missed is that the physical state of the person is a result of the person spiritual state.
Hence, in summary: pray and they will be healed and if they have sins they will be forgiven.
Sin brings about the destruction of the body. We bare our sins in our flesh. Which is why the debt of man’s sin was paid by Jesus Christ. The reason why his death was unwarranted was because he was without sin. Meaning death had no claim on him. This is why he was able to conquer death and man of his own strength cannot.
To put it in context: say someone drinks alcohol, this is a sinful act, brought up by temptation to drink that gives way to sin. The action matures and turns into sclerosis which brings about death.
The approach I’m hearing here, and correct me if I’m wrong is strictly a theological approach based solely on human understanding.