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it's so clear they want a BABY and not a CHILD. I despise parents like that. They think they're entitled to having a baby but the second that kid gets into 1/2nd grade they're gonna get bored of it and I genuinely feel so bad for it. I hope so badly that someone steps in before that happens.
Ugh! As dads who have been having a really tough time adopting, it's frustrating that they're so dismissive/unaware of the privilege they have to have such a "simple" process to build a family
They are definitely living in the Glass Onion. Must be nice to be stupid rich. Wishing you all the baby dust in the world I hope yalls adoption comes through ❤
The comment about him competing with the baby is honestly a sad thought, but true. Their child will be more mature than Shane by 4. That kid is going to feel the need to grow up faster to save Ryland’s mental state.
All the responsibility will fall on ryland to care for the child and hopefully he realizes he can't care for a whole baby and man baby and leaves with the child. Ryland will be financially set because he'll get spousal support and child support and he won't need to stay for money anymore.
@@grantmegan91 ryland didn’t marry shane just because he’s rich bro, they share the same values and sense of moral superiority even while being awful people 💀 they’re perfect for each other. that kid needs to just bear the storm and move out at 18
@@athena2000 tbh I feel like regardless of how the kid looks physically they'll be in for a bad time. Either they're thinner and Shane's unresolved issues drag the child down with him in a sabotaging codependency kind of way, or the poor kid is naturally larger, and no matter how minor it is Shane's going to get triggered and turn into one of those overbearing helicopter parents who micromanage their kids food, force them into sports they hate "for exercise", and end up giving them an eating disorder by age ten. I can honestly see either happening.
I'm genuinely concerned they're going to play this as long as they can for views and then say something awful like the surrogate lost the pregnancy or something so they get sympathy. I am really sensing some bullshit
honestly as much as i want to believe that a baby truly isn’t happening i also get a bad feeling that if it does happen they’ll treat their baby like a prop. you know, like how some “influencers” treat their pets.
I agree something feels weird but these two always feel weird to me. Ryland pretending for that long that he hated being shaved and didn’t think he looked pretty just made me think… weird. Something about these people is just weird
Not gonna lie, if Ryland put out a vlog saying he's leaving Shane for goodsy and really meant it, he would get so much support from everybody watching Shane be the worst to Ryland consistently
Never thought about it thats way...yall think Ryland isnt too far gone gone sipping the yt juice first from the fame of his toxic partner? Or he is truly in an emotionally abusive relationship that he believes full heartedly and loves his favorite bully?
The thing that pisses me off most about Shane’s misophonia is that if it really bothers him soooooooooo much, loop earplugs only cost like $30, look cute, and solve the ENTIRE PROBLEM OF HEARING OTHER PEOPLE EATING! Like what will this man do when his baby is smacking and clicking while taking a bottle/pacifier? Or there is this super gross mouth noise that babies and toddlers make when they are congested and sleeping and if you bed share it’s the worst. Homie is not ready to be a parent.
Right?! Kids open-mouth chewing like the impolite little sociopaths they are is objectively grotesque, misophonia not required. He needs to spend a Thanksgiving dinner stuck between a baby and a toddler before pulling the trigger on this decision.
(long paragraph incoming) loop earplugs are sooo helpful, actual lifesavers for going anywhere in public. I got mine only a few months ago and I take them everywhere. sadly, I have it pretty severe and if multiple people are chewing or someone is chewing with their mouth open or louder than average, it sets off my misophonia, which usually means i become really angry or really sad, as well as tears if i’m around the sound for too long. regardless of if my earplugs are in. i apologize if I misunderstood what you were getting at, “if it bothers him so much” sounded a lot like the people that say “misophonia isn’t /that/ bad, just get over it” to me. (sorry for the rant, just wanted to clear stuff up!)
I feel so sorry for that poor, soon to be exploited, baby. The way they're using this to delay the inevitable death of their flailing careers is so wrong 😞🤦🏻♀️💔
Shane is a self admitted pedophile plus he killed a kitten and is a racist. How do people forget that. He's going to try and have sex with the kid.The way he did with his cat. Ryland is a narcissistic egotistical weirdo hungry for money
@@Cat_Woods I'm a first time mom to a 19 month old & *exactly* they have NO idea what they're getting into. Oh my god. Terrifying to think of them as parents & especially terrifying to know they're going to exploit that small *human.* (bc kids are humans! The fact we even have to say that is insane. They should be treated with respect & not exploited for monetary gain 😫)
it should be illegal or regulated at the very least when it comes to putting content of your child online without their consent. it's honestly baffling how it's not. and we're just now starting to see the effects of family channels. Former family channel kids are speaking out against their parents for their exploitative ways. I can't imagine having all of my baby pictures and videos from the moment i was born to when i turned 18, being all over the internet like that. its mortifying. these poor kids. and with fucking shane dawson too! what a nightmare.
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay pedo “jokes” but he actually kissed his preteen fans and ask them to twerk for him on Omegle also racism including doing more black face than makeup that supposedly was his “passion” lmao
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay a lot of things but a huge part of it was weird sexual jokes about or involving children. He told underage girls to twerk, had them suck on food and pretend it was oral, kissed a minor at a meet & greet, etc. and had a really weird sketch show about an 8 year old puppet he would constantly make sex jokes about. Plus in podcasts he “jokingly” defended p*dos and called a minor sexy.
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay Dont mind me if i add some things to the list. He was inappropriate with underage fans, "jokingly" pretended to pleasure himself to a poster of young Willow Smith, he did lots of blackface, and (my personal favorite) bragged on a podcast about having intercourse with his cat and after recieving backlash, he went on twitter explaining "it was all just a joke" etc.. uhm when you need to explain to the world you didnt f*ck your cat, you've f*cked your cat
Mostly he was cancelled for the joke about cumming on his cat and the James Charles/Tati livestream. His channel got demonitized and then all the old clips made the rounds again. You can’t cancel people. Shane still gets millions of views. Jokes that made him famous when he was 20, caused him trouble in his 30s. People love to build people up to tear them down.
@@plutonium2 I think for me it's the fact that their relationship is so strange and would be a terrible example for a child and I cannot imagine them being functional parents who work together, Shane seems extremely irresponsible and talks about himself in such a negative way all the time and negative self-talk definitely affects children. children are sponges and take in everything and their parents are for the longest time how they understand the world and other people. also it seems like they want to be "family vloggers" which is insanely exploitative and terrible in itself.
@@plutonium2 i also feel the same abt it, as a prek teacher i personally understand the maturity and work needed to raise a child, and at least one of these fathers will not be adequate at all. I also have genuine concerns about Shane’s ped*philic behavior, it makes me worry for the child. I just think this poor kid is set up for failure and it breaks my heart.
Man, I truly worry about Shane’s future child. I am currently in recovery from a 17 year battle with Binge Eating Disorder and it’s been a lot of work unpacking my internalized fatphobia and intense self-hatred. And genuinely, the motivator for me to get help was when I gave birth to my daughter. I was so afraid of her learning my behaviors that 2 months postpartum I began intensive counseling. And while Shane is insufferable, I see a lot of similar beliefs, fatphobia, and self-hatred in the way he talks about himself. I hope he finally gets some help for the sake of his child.
I’m really proud of you for tackling your problems head on, especially while you’re recovering from growing and delivering a whole new person. I’m rooting for you!
I also have binge eating disorder, so I empathize with the internalized fat phobia and shame being horrible. I think my habit was fueled in part by messages I gleaned from my parents in my youth. You are doing an amazing thing by healing, not just for your daughter, but also for yourself. You deserve happiness and a healthy relationship with food, and your little girl will learn that she deserves those things, too. 💗
William Osman rented a racoon for a day. Now he's a dad and calls his little one "Potato." This sounds awful but he's a hilarious guy and his wife is lovely.
It's like they don't even realize that people are highly critical of family channels that exploit the children. Like they're trying to fix Shane's problematic persona by rolling in to a problematic genre of TH-cam videos. I can't 😆
Exactly. I study psychology and a professor recently, mentioned the children of the family channels on TH-cam and compared them to child actors and stars in general, and said that researchers in the future, will have so much material to work with, simply because of those children which is honestly, really morbid to think about. If they genuinely cared about their future child, they wouldn’t choose this “family channel” route. You would think that since both of them spend most of their time on social media (saying this as somebody who had no idea about the Bella hadid smoothie ffs), they would be smart enough not to do this, but I guess anything for money and clout🤷🏻♀️
Ryland mentioned them not showing their child in the videos in the future. So they’re probably going to base their content on buying the kid stupid $hit
People are critical but they are also huge money spinners. People who watch commentary and so forth forget the majority of people just click videos and move on. They have no idea that there is even a scandal around Shane and are genuinely excited he’s having a baby. There’s at least a million of us onto his bullshit but that still leaves a few million who genuinely live for Shane’s content and are insanely happy about this. Check his comments it’s like there are two worlds: those who know about Shane and those who still watch Shane and never the Twain shall meet in his comment section
@@kat6569 ok. I mean this in the nicest way. If you’re studying you should know you use waaaay too many commas. You’re creating comma splice which is when you cut a clause (a single standing meaningful part of the sentence) in half. I wouldn’t usually make a comment on punctuation but as someone that marks papers you’d lose at least a couple of marks from me for all those comma splices so I hope this doesn’t offend you but commas don’t go where you would draw in breath or to create a beat in a sentence. They are just there to organise sentence clauses. That said we do tend to pause if we see one while reading so it chops your writing into a stutter. Also, I assume you’re not using an Oxford comma so very rarely will a comma go after the word ‘and’ as this really only happens in a list with more than one object. Explaining doesn’t matter just know they don’t go after the word and pretty much all the time even if it feels like you want to put one there. Again trying to be helpful. No offence meant.
Rylands relationship with Shane, reminds me of a teen mom who gets pregnant on prom night... She thinks she'll be with the father for the rest of her life. But, after giving birth, realizes that the father is a lazy deadbeat, and ops to become a single mother; because she doesn't want to raise two children. Shane is the second child. Does he even bathe? Yeah... He's going to be a super involved, excellent Dad. 😝
Much worse these are two fully developed Adults here making huge life-changing decisions. Don't understand what a teen mom (minor) has to do with this mess anyone can end up being a Single/Divorced woman with a child. Anyway, these two are a hot damn mess only feel bad for the "child" if it even exists.😂
@@prettyxbonez96 One. Yes, I fully understand that they are 'adults', hence the comment 'reminds' me of (and the entire basis of my joke)...because they (mostly Ryland) are approaching parenthood with the same enthusiasm/whimsical ideology, as a teen mom would. Where Shane seems aloof and only going along with the plan to make Ryland happy; while displaying no true excitement for parenthood. Two. My comment in no way, shape or form meant to 'bash', or 'make fun of' minors, single mothers, nor single parents of any age. I did not intend for it to be that deep. I've seen teen parents be extremely responsible and maintain marriage. I've seen adults not maintain marriage, and be crappy parents. Three. Some 'prom night'/teen mother's, can include eighteen year olds. It was simply a joke observation based on a stereotype. And meant no harm, or disrespect.
@@prettyxbonez96 I think they used a teen mom to speak about the naïveté that comes with teenage hood and believing that you’ll be with your first boyfriend forever
As a genetic counselor, they either didn't get any (or poor)genetic counseling before and after the test, or they didn't absorb the info/are faking it for the camera. If you go through a legit place they should have a licensed certified genetic counselor walk them through the results
Ah someone I can ask. So did they just yank 30 whole ass eggs out of that lady? Don’t we only make one a month? Isn’t that a buttload of eggs? Thanks in advance! 😂😊
@@plutonium2 from birth you have all the eggs you’ll ever have in your life. I presume you are mixing up an egg with a period. Your period is when the lining of your uterus sheds
@@plutonium2 The eggs are all pre-loaded in the ovaries, and I can't remember the exact egg count but it's in hundred thousand to million range. Only one egg is released from the ovaries for the monthly cycle though.
@@plutonium2 not sure if it's changed since my friend did it 14 years ago but from what I remember you are given a set of injections that you have to self-administer for a few weeks/months (depending on how well you respond to it) and they monitor your hormone levels and do scans to check all going right. The medication causes the ovaries to mature multiple eggs at once instead of the usual one. Once they think the time is right they harvest the lot and then carefully screen to narrow down which are good enough to use. If you've not produced many good ones at that time then you do it all over again until they have enough healthy, strong eggs set aside to go forward with. I think they got about 30 out of my friend's first go and thankfully they had enough to try for fertilization.
$10 says they have a surrogate over in India or another country where poor women are exploited as cheap surrogates. Surrogacy can be a wonderful thing, but not when it’s under desperate circumstances. Them getting results by mail with no guidance leads me to think this is one of the surrogacy places in India where they’re basically buying a baby.
Omg that is so true about him always making fun of women! When he says something dumb he imitates a woman's voice. All his female characters are negative tropes like 'stupid blondes', racial stereotypes, shaming women for being sexually active, e.ds. ect. I dont think hes ever truly empowered women, or at least without doing it in some sort of backhanded compliment
Fun fact, the biggest indicator that a couple won't last is if they show contempt towards each other, ie eye rolling, name calling, passive aggression. It shows a lack of respect for the partner.
Last year I was considering to become an egg donor, went trough many interviews with doctors and all that, so I find THIS particular process so WEIRD! 1. They just get the results by mail instead of getting an appointment for the doctor to walk them through what all that means. 2. They contacted their donor!!!! Here everything is COMPLETELY anonymous to protect both parties and avoid dumb biases. These two don't seem prepared at all! It just doesn't look serious.
They definitely should’ve had an appointment which was odd. However, open surrogacy does exist. They’ve already explained earlier on that they want the surrogate to be known to their children since she will be the biologically mother and that is the case for some people. They said she agreed before the entire process. Kinda common for homosexual couples to be open because how are you going to explain to your kids when they’re older “where’s mom/dad?”.
It sounds like the donor contacted them but that still seems insanely sketchy to me. It all seems very “wellness centre” as opposed to “fertility clinic”.
You can have anon or nonanon donations. I get the feeling they’re using an overseas donor and an overseas surrogate and an overseas doctor since getting results by mail is not how it should be done. Something is wrong.
@@ExtreemDreemer If the surrogate is also the egg donor, then she can decide after birth that she wants custody. That’s federal. If a surrogate is using another person’s egg, then they don’t have rights to keep the baby. If they don’t know the difference (attorneys are supposed to be involved), then this surrogacy is likely either fake or possibly illegal.
This is actually terrifying? Like, they should be going to parenthood classes and talking to childhood development experts, doing interviews with the ivf doctors to talk abt the process. So much more than this bs.
People typically don't even announce that they are pregnant until a certain time because of the risk of miscarriage early on in pregnancy. I'm very surprised they are vlogging this so prematurely and I think it's entirely possible they will be disappointed. I do, however, think this journey could be a good education tool about surrogacy, but it doesn't seem like they are going that route lol
We also know this person probably recently started following them on Instagram, it’s a privacy problem. Plus if they can watch her social media they might criticize the mother for attending certain events for example..or certain actions that look unsafe to them. I am afraid for her. I know too much surveillance is not healthy. They can’t create a bond either, it’s business not a sister wife.
I’m not gonna say that’s misogynistic, but I will say I think it’s important to unpack we feel like that. Trisha has a similar history of racism, hate, and (theoretical) trolling, as well as a clear need for attention. I do agree though, because as far as I’ve seen Trisha hasn’t exhibited the same self-infantilization that Shane does.
@@HushSkunk 1. I think you mean misandrist, not misogynistic. Unless you're implying that saying a woman being a better parent than a man is sexist to women? Regardless, the comment isn't sexist at all to anyone, the genders of the people involved are completely irrelevant, the comment is referring to who they are as people. 2. Racism, hate, etc. is also completely irrelevant here?? The concern is the child being neglected and abused by abusive and unstable people with an extremely weak moral foundation, as well as questionable behavior and comments around children, not that they make shitty jokes. 3. Trisha trolls, Shane does not. Trisha has BPD which isn't great as a parent, but she's at least in counseling and on medication for it which can severely reduce the symptoms and allow a person to live a healthy and stable life. Shane is almost certainly a narcissist, for which there's no treatment and abuse and instability are inherent factors of the disorder. So long as she stays the path (and thus far she very much seems to), Trisha's child will be ok, maybe even flourish. Shane, who is spiteful, impatient, abusive, sexually perverse and obsessed, and possibly a pedophile, with behavior that is overall unstable, inappropriate, and pathological, will destroy any child put in his hands, even if he doesn't physically harm them. The best anyone can hope for Shane's child is that Ryland leaves him and gets full custody.
You articulated so much with "This video has me really questioning the amount of information that Shane and Ryland are able to absorb from their basic interaction with the world"
I’m 38 weeks pregnant, so my baby could come anytime. I find it disgusting that they are already making money off this baby that isn’t even here yet, I hate TH-camrs who make money on their children, I don’t watch family channels.
As a fellow aging twink, I appreciate his work but now feel called out for my Aging Twink Short Beard. 😂 (Fellow, bah, I'm older than Ryland and Nick - probably put together.)
@@totallylooney8292 🤣Don't feel bad brother, it's a thing for a reason! I am sure it's extremely cute. Twinks rarely outgrow that ability. Aside from this instance, of course. I mean, am I the only one who thinks it looks insane on Shane Dawson's face? He looks way better without it, and I don't know why he nor Ryland hate being without facial hair so profoundly. I mean, I'm no therapist. But I have some theories as to what those patchy ass beards mean to them and why it causes them borderline(???) dysphoria.
I praise Ryland for being a component partner. He takes care of the herds of animals, deals with Shane, manages his channel and pod, plus every 6 month they UPROOT and move a whole state away. I would not be surprised of Ryland left Shane after the children. It will be too much for him to handle while Shane is sleep bc of his erratic sleeping schedule.
That would be cool. If he doesn’t put them on camera I’d watch Ryland be a soccer mom and talk shit about Shane. I would be in it mostly for the Shane spite but a click is a click. Spite might just make this man’s career. He just has to come to hate shane as much as everyone else does.
When Nick said that kids only used to watch Shane Dawson because they were trying to get over their shitty day in seventh grade. I screamed because that was completely accurate for me and my friend!!!😂
I am always glad that I’ve never watched any of these controversial YTbers people talk about. Every time I look at them and question why millions of people follow people who are so ugly inside and unattractive/lame/shallow/vapid/ignorant/boring. Just goes to show you can be mediocre to awful and succeed if you’re privileged. Meanwhile, far more interesting minority channels are fighting algorithms everywhere, even the bigger ones (if they’re black/brown-white Latinx people have a way better chance).
If Shane is already starving for attention, I feel so worried for his baby... It wont be all about him anymore and I hope he can handle it for their child's sake
I can smell Shane through the screen. No bueno. He gives, "dirty wyt boy" a new meaning. Hopefully Ryland can teach the kid about hygiene. 🤷🏽♀️🤞🏼Also, if the kids does come you just know they are going to monetize the shit outta a face reveal. Or the promise of one. They'll start out saying they respect the kids privacy. But that'll only last about five minutes. They are running out of clout and putting a kid in front of that camera is a way to stay relevant. 🤢
I think its gonna start with "oh hes just a newborn we wont put him on camera later when his face gets more recognisable" and then just get confused about when to stop putting him on camera.
@BambiLena666 @Plutonium Praxis @aka stardust I think we should just start a pool. Those are some pretty good wagers 😂. Feels like we might all just be a little bit right on this one. 🤣. Ugh. Poor kid.
I'm a six time egg donor and it is SO illegal for me to find my intended parents online and message them lol I'm sure their contract is different with them being public figures but like, we can't do that lol.
I honestly do feel bad for Ryland despite him standing by Shane, whether it's out of genuine love or for money. He seems to be the only one of them competent enough to be a parent and I imagine most of the work will fall on him. Shane will probably just want to do the "fun things" like picking out their clothes and decorating their room. I hope they don't have twins since taking care of one baby will be hard enough with an absentee co-parent. Plus Shane just doesn't treat Ryland well, always doing things without considering his feelings and constantly saying he's annoying 😬
They truly don’t know how fucking hard it is to be parents. My daughter is a wonderfully behaved toddler and I still have days where I have to go in another room and cry because it’s so overwhelming and isolating to be a mom. They are going to be shocked and miserable because they’ll realize they can’t be self centered and parents. Or… they can but not DECENT parents. But do they even care about that… 🙄
I’m really happy you feel comfortable enough being honest about the realities of parenting, and especially motherhood. I know moms feel so much pressure to try to put on a brave face and some feel guilty about talking about how hard being a mother is, but being honest is so important. I hope you have people to help support you and your child
My now-husband bought me a baby name book as a gift like 6 weeks into dating, not thinking about any implications. He just knows I’ve always loved names.
I dont know if they were joking, but Ryland sounded serious with that comment about twins and it creeps me the hell out. It sounded like it just crossed their minds and thinking from a surogate perspective (which is already exploitative af) they agreed for a baby. Not twins. I can already imagine them pressuring her for it and the thought of negotiating a price for twins makes me a little sick. Contacting the surrogate isnt unusual, and a lot of people talk and stay in touch, though it does bring a lot of issues, because sometimes people can feel like they are becoming friends or something, which can be especially painful for the surrogate because they might expect contact to continue after birth and even being in the kids life only to be dropped and ignored after they give birth. Not to mention it can also bring problems in the sense of the parents trying to be controlling of the surrogate during pregnancy and trying to "supervise" them. I really do hate surrogacy as a random paid service, theres so many things that can be really awful for the surrogate, and lets be really honest here, you never see rich people offering themselves up as surrogates for strangers.
@@FairyBogFather Yes, its not uncommon actually because couples often "want to get as many kids done in one swoop" basically because they have multiple viable embrios. So they will ask to try for twins. But at the very minimum they discuss it with the agency before finding a surrogate and all. And yes, I completely agree its not ethical. Though imo a lot of things about surrogacy arent ethical.
My dog was named Quinoa. I don't think quinoa as a food was as popular in 2008 when we adopted her, a lot of people didn't know what it was. But she came from a rescue agency where they drive dogs from full shelters in the south to foster or adoptive families in other states. And I guess volunteers were intentionally giving the dogs weird names, and her name stuck. That's how you end up with a dog named Quinoa. I don't know how you get a baby named Quinoa.
Honestly, the only way I can envision a child being named Quinoa is a suburban white soccer mom who saw some famous actress talking about it in a magazine and she thought it sounded "so unique", so she decides they're naming their daughter that, except she doesn't know how to pronounce it, so her daughter's name is "quinn-oh-ah". Bonus points if the child is adopted and the mom picked it because she thinks it sounds "ethic/foreign" 🙄😂
As someone fostering kittens yes we do give weird names so people pick them Here are some of the names from most normal to god awful: Tangy, Fudgesicle, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Seige, Jared Leto’s Morbius
Nah their previous owner probably called her that. Pets often get named food, and someone from the American south could reasonably be of a culture that eats it
@@Rain_boot soooo cuuute! I thought she went from Toto (a la wizard of oz) to Totes and I was like oNg Nick is so creative and millennial?!? But apparently i just can’t hear lol
I totally agree with what you said about Shane and Ryland’s lack of knowledge about the process indicating their privilege. When Shane was talking about having twins I’m like… the risk of complications goes up for the pregnant person and the babies when there’s multiple of them! Hope they don’t end up pursuing this for the health of the surrogate
I hope their viewers DO realize that their levels of passive aggression are not normal. When I am mad at my partner I tell him. We don't go back and forth about why each of us has a harder time or is worse than the other. If my partner treated me like (mostly Shane) they treat each other ON CAMERA the relationship would be over in an instant. Also yall are SO funny together. Maybe my favorite guest you've ever had on!
I have dyscalculia (dyslexia but with numbers) and I'm a mathematical genius compared to those two putting their single brain cells together to figure out how much 2 + 4 is.
As an egg donor (4 time donor) Shane’s video gives me ick.. they are explaining it so poorly and it is such a hard process for everyone involved. Also i hope they had some kind of consent from the donor. i would not want my donation count broadcasted.. the whole video can prevent the donor from donating again so i hope it was worth it for them 🤷♀️
Shane barely bothers to look after himself, and the two of them together couldn't keep a kitten alive for more than a couple of weeks or whatever it was. Apart from literal convicted criminals, I can't think of many people who should be trusted LESS to be responsible for a child. Really hope the whole thing is just a clickbait attention grab and doesn't actually happen, otherwise Fs in chat for that poor kid. 💀
We need laws to protect kids in family vlogs.... like.... yesterday. But before this little enters the world would do just fine. We protect child actors, we need to protect vlog kids!😢
when I was a kid I had this baby name book that listed people's first impressions under each name. the first impression for mine was "a homely, heavy-set, old, Irish woman" and I cried lmao
Like my mom says "Every family has their "thing." In Shane and Ryland's case it's all social media all the time. My mom also followed up with "except mine." To which I replied "Except that our family is entirely matriarchal because the men die young?" And my mom is like "Well, there's that." I think my family was also cursed by a dark wizard.
Their "thing" is exploitation of minors 😭😞 I can't, y'all. Also that's scary! So sorry, that's gotta be stressful omg. Like final destination stuff if you're a dude in the family 😂😭 (sorry if that's insensitive, I'm sick & blown 🌿 bad combination for brain thoughts lol 😬)
@Jaseeka Rawr Not insensitive at all. Our family has this weird dark victorian humor about it. When I was a little kid and my brother would get me angry, I used to tell my older brother that "he would die young." Which would be really mean but we’re both adopted and I'm not sure if it works that way 🤷♀️
Gonna be honest: I'm over 50 and before finding your channel, Shane Dawson was a name I'd heard around but could never really tell you what he did. My only experience of him is through this channel, but I'm hooked on this series.
Sometimes I think about how the psychic twins said Shane would be in a relationship with a man for about 10 years and then they’d break up. They’ve been together for 7. This baby’s gonna kill them 😬
God willing this baby will be the making of the man with Ryland and he will just up and take 50% of all Shane’s shit and split with the kids. Married in LA so ten years makes sense. That’s the starter point for half of everything and gossip blogs have taught me that quite a few richies hold out for the ten OR bolt before it depending on who has sad stacks of cash
It's situations like this is why I wish there was some sort of laws to protect children in relation to TH-cam. Unlike most cases, where family channels kind of popped up out of innocently wanting to share their life only to turn into exploitation of children, in this case we literally see from the very beginning (BEFORE the child is even born mind you) the signs that this is a child is meant to be nothing more, but a product to produce money as well as not only "fix" their careers, but arguably their relationship as well. In the end, we can only report things that have happened, not what will eventually happen. I just really wish there was a way to deeply look into couples on whether they have good intentions, or not, or whether they're physically/mentally good enough to raise a child. It's hard to really judge, but I really worry for this child. Regardless of whether the child is exploited, or not for content, I'm genuinely concerned with also how Shane will raise this child. We all know this dude's background when it comes to children. He literally got "cancelled" for it at one point. I just genuinely am shocked there isn't a system in place to really check on whether people really deserve, or can take care of these children.
All I can think about is that poor kid growing up and then getting on TH-cam to see all the disgusting and problematic behavior of his dad. I would feel so ashamed to have Shane as my dad.
Even as someone with dyscalculia, watching them stumble over adding “we have six of each” was pretty terrible. Makes me embarrassed to admit I would get easily fumbled by all the specific back and forth break down. 🙄
I have many thoughts on how they're already exploiting their "uncooked" baby via click bate titles. But I really hope if one does come into fruition, they don't continue to do so.
i just wonder if shane and ryland have really considered that this is a lifelong decision. not just for them, but for their baby. it's a scary amount of responsibility. i'm not saying they shouldn't have kids, but just, have they really thought about the future of all of this? just my opinion, but poor baby.
@@MikasRhetoric I just found your channel a week ago (the sneako video) and I thought you were hilarious! so excited to watch this one with you and Nick! ❤
I love the way that you sprinkle in the interview. I thought that was a wonderful touch. Your video editing, and video making skills are amazing! I love your videos so much!❤
I have never wished for anyone to not get a child so badly as I do for Shane. I think Ryland wouldn't even be that bad of a parent, but with a partner like Shane, who is basically acting like a child himself and already is a full time job to take care of (not to mention the mini zoo they own at this point) he won't stand a chance.
Just found this channel maybe 2 days ago and I've been binging all nicks videos on Shane. This my first time getting a notification for a new vid and I'm so happy to be here early for once 😁😁
Imagine being there surrogate and they cavalierly tell you that they want you to have two babies at the same time instead of one like that has no bearing on your health or body whatsoever
I can’t imagine Shane being a parent. He’s not mature enough. Everything is a joke to him and he’s always looking for approval from everyone around him.
DAMN NICK! I’ve been watching clip breakdown for years but you have REALLY stepped your game up! The editing, the producing, the original graphics (don’t think we don’t notice!) and even the fun guest. Obviously Sh*ne D*wson content is popular content for your channel, but I’m so impressed with this one!
Thank you SO MUCH to the wonderful Mika of Mika's Rhetoric for collaborating on this video! Subscribe to her channel at www.youtube.com/@mikasrhetoric ❤
This video is such a slay and I’m only like 5 minutes in
@Mika’s Rhetoric so happy to see you guys collab! I've been watching your videos for awhile now and always appreciate your analysis 😊
this is such a golden collab omg !!
@Mika’s Rhetoric so happy to see this collab! I love this! ❤
So happy to see Mika here!
Shane and ryland as a family channel is YTs deepest circle of hell so far.
this is indeed the darkest timeline lmao
Add to that Trisha Paytas has a family channel and we all die in a black hole
It's damn limbo
The darkest, dampest, clammiest PITS of hell.
Lmao
it's so clear they want a BABY and not a CHILD. I despise parents like that. They think they're entitled to having a baby but the second that kid gets into 1/2nd grade they're gonna get bored of it and I genuinely feel so bad for it. I hope so badly that someone steps in before that happens.
Yep exactly, I hate it
Yep. That's how my mom was. I always felt like a burden growing up because I was... growing up lol
Yea I think that’s how my mom was. Well she wanted a mini me when I turned out different she started resenting me
Some just should not have kids
It’s like people who only want a dog for Christmas and don’t realise that it’s an almost ten year commitment.
Imagine when Shane realizes “when you have a baby, you can’t BE the baby”.
"RYLAND? Are you going to _bring_ me my lemonade, or must I _squeeze_ it with my _hat!"_
>shane looks at camera as it jerkily zooms in.
>Laugh track
nah, he'll double down if anything, he can't stand not being the center of attention for even a minute
I wish I believed Shane would realize this.
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah no unfortunately many parents never realise that.
Ugh! As dads who have been having a really tough time adopting, it's frustrating that they're so dismissive/unaware of the privilege they have to have such a "simple" process to build a family
They do a disservice to the whole damn LGBT community.
For sure!
:( I’m so sorry. Especially if you live in the US right now. Praying you and your husband can have a child soon❤️❤️🙏
I feel pretty taken aback by how normalized it is to buy babies from "surrogate" mothers in the EE.UU.
They are definitely living in the Glass Onion. Must be nice to be stupid rich. Wishing you all the baby dust in the world I hope yalls adoption comes through ❤
The comment about him competing with the baby is honestly a sad thought, but true. Their child will be more mature than Shane by 4. That kid is going to feel the need to grow up faster to save Ryland’s mental state.
All the responsibility will fall on ryland to care for the child and hopefully he realizes he can't care for a whole baby and man baby and leaves with the child. Ryland will be financially set because he'll get spousal support and child support and he won't need to stay for money anymore.
@@grantmegan91 this is what I was going to say. I really think you’re right
@@grantmegan91 you realize you’re literally writing fan fiction right now, right?
@@LoryBelle naw fr 😭😭 ryland is no better than shane
@@grantmegan91 ryland didn’t marry shane just because he’s rich bro, they share the same values and sense of moral superiority even while being awful people 💀 they’re perfect for each other. that kid needs to just bear the storm and move out at 18
Shane seems like the type that would get jealous the babies are getting more attention than him.
He also seems like the type that would get himself a custom onesie to match the baby's.😒
Ugh, my mom was like that. If he's anything like my mom, that kid will never get any positive attention from him.
@@athena2000 tbh I feel like regardless of how the kid looks physically they'll be in for a bad time. Either they're thinner and Shane's unresolved issues drag the child down with him in a sabotaging codependency kind of way, or the poor kid is naturally larger, and no matter how minor it is Shane's going to get triggered and turn into one of those overbearing helicopter parents who micromanage their kids food, force them into sports they hate "for exercise", and end up giving them an eating disorder by age ten. I can honestly see either happening.
@@akastardustI bet he's going to do that
I refuse to believe this baby is actually happening until they cut the cord. Something is weird..
I'm genuinely concerned they're going to play this as long as they can for views and then say something awful like the surrogate lost the pregnancy or something so they get sympathy. I am really sensing some bullshit
The only time I'm actually *wishing* it's clickbait 🥺
I hope there's never going to be a baby. I hope.
honestly as much as i want to believe that a baby truly isn’t happening i also get a bad feeling that if it does happen they’ll treat their baby like a prop.
you know, like how some “influencers” treat their pets.
I agree something feels weird but these two always feel weird to me. Ryland pretending for that long that he hated being shaved and didn’t think he looked pretty just made me think… weird. Something about these people is just weird
Reminder that all children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children
Not gonna lie, if Ryland put out a vlog saying he's leaving Shane for goodsy and really meant it, he would get so much support from everybody watching Shane be the worst to Ryland consistently
Seriously, I'd love to watch Ryland go be like a solo whitebread vlog/HGTV home design channel you know?
@@grimmgoosegoose216 would you really though? I don’t think Ryland has lasting appeal without Shane.
@@Alsyoutubeaccount they mean, like, for the sake of Ryland's sanity and health.
Never thought about it thats way...yall think Ryland isnt too far gone gone sipping the yt juice first from the fame of his toxic partner? Or he is truly in an emotionally abusive relationship that he believes full heartedly and loves his favorite bully?
@@Ali_Aktbabwa he’s a clout whoring rent boy but it’s still sad
The thing that pisses me off most about Shane’s misophonia is that if it really bothers him soooooooooo much, loop earplugs only cost like $30, look cute, and solve the ENTIRE PROBLEM OF HEARING OTHER PEOPLE EATING! Like what will this man do when his baby is smacking and clicking while taking a bottle/pacifier? Or there is this super gross mouth noise that babies and toddlers make when they are congested and sleeping and if you bed share it’s the worst. Homie is not ready to be a parent.
Right?! Kids open-mouth chewing like the impolite little sociopaths they are is objectively grotesque, misophonia not required. He needs to spend a Thanksgiving dinner stuck between a baby and a toddler before pulling the trigger on this decision.
Yeah! Having a kid means giving up stuff for them, its hard but that just means not everyone is cut out to raise a child (i knos im not)
fr, i have misophonia and hyperacusis and those loop earplugs are SO helpful
(long paragraph incoming) loop earplugs are sooo helpful, actual lifesavers for going anywhere in public. I got mine only a few months ago and I take them everywhere.
sadly, I have it pretty severe and if multiple people are chewing or someone is chewing with their mouth open or louder than average, it sets off my misophonia, which usually means i become really angry or really sad, as well as tears if i’m around the sound for too long. regardless of if my earplugs are in.
i apologize if I misunderstood what you were getting at, “if it bothers him so much” sounded a lot like the people that say “misophonia isn’t /that/ bad, just get over it” to me.
(sorry for the rant, just wanted to clear stuff up!)
Aww I like that baby sound. Hate that they're sick but it's sweet.
I feel so sorry for that poor, soon to be exploited, baby. The way they're using this to delay the inevitable death of their flailing careers is so wrong 😞🤦🏻♀️💔
Shane is a self admitted pedophile plus he killed a kitten and is a racist. How do people forget that. He's going to try and have sex with the kid.The way he did with his cat. Ryland is a narcissistic egotistical weirdo hungry for money
These people SHOULD NOT be parents.
@@Cat_Woods I'm a first time mom to a 19 month old & *exactly* they have NO idea what they're getting into. Oh my god.
Terrifying to think of them as parents & especially terrifying to know they're going to exploit that small *human.* (bc kids are humans! The fact we even have to say that is insane. They should be treated with respect & not exploited for monetary gain 😫)
Like that one social media family who ended up giving the baby away- yikes
it should be illegal or regulated at the very least when it comes to putting content of your child online without their consent. it's honestly baffling how it's not. and we're just now starting to see the effects of family channels. Former family channel kids are speaking out against their parents for their exploitative ways. I can't imagine having all of my baby pictures and videos from the moment i was born to when i turned 18, being all over the internet like that. its mortifying. these poor kids. and with fucking shane dawson too! what a nightmare.
imagine having a baby with shane dawson after what he was specifically cancelled for
What was he cancelled for? I don’t know him. Only from nicks videos
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay pedo “jokes” but he actually kissed his preteen fans and ask them to twerk for him on Omegle also racism including doing more black face than makeup that supposedly was his “passion” lmao
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay a lot of things but a huge part of it was weird sexual jokes about or involving children. He told underage girls to twerk, had them suck on food and pretend it was oral, kissed a minor at a meet & greet, etc. and had a really weird sketch show about an 8 year old puppet he would constantly make sex jokes about. Plus in podcasts he “jokingly” defended p*dos and called a minor sexy.
@@WhatWouldKierrahSay Dont mind me if i add some things to the list. He was inappropriate with underage fans, "jokingly" pretended to pleasure himself to a poster of young Willow Smith, he did lots of blackface, and (my personal favorite) bragged on a podcast about having intercourse with his cat and after recieving backlash, he went on twitter explaining "it was all just a joke" etc.. uhm when you need to explain to the world you didnt f*ck your cat, you've f*cked your cat
Mostly he was cancelled for the joke about cumming on his cat and the James Charles/Tati livestream. His channel got demonitized and then all the old clips made the rounds again. You can’t cancel people. Shane still gets millions of views. Jokes that made him famous when he was 20, caused him trouble in his 30s. People love to build people up to tear them down.
it genuinely makes me feel sick imagining shane as a parent
That child is doomed. On the plus side, Shane will be able to breast feed it.
What about it brings on such a strong response? Don’t disagree just curious
@@plutonium2 I think for me it's the fact that their relationship is so strange and would be a terrible example for a child and I cannot imagine them being functional parents who work together, Shane seems extremely irresponsible and talks about himself in such a negative way all the time and negative self-talk definitely affects children. children are sponges and take in everything and their parents are for the longest time how they understand the world and other people. also it seems like they want to be "family vloggers" which is insanely exploitative and terrible in itself.
@@plutonium2 i also feel the same abt it, as a prek teacher i personally understand the maturity and work needed to raise a child, and at least one of these fathers will not be adequate at all. I also have genuine concerns about Shane’s ped*philic behavior, it makes me worry for the child. I just think this poor kid is set up for failure and it breaks my heart.
@@plutonium2 Shane Dawson is the most self-centered person on the planet. He is incapable of nurturing anyone but himself.
Man, I truly worry about Shane’s future child. I am currently in recovery from a 17 year battle with Binge Eating Disorder and it’s been a lot of work unpacking my internalized fatphobia and intense self-hatred. And genuinely, the motivator for me to get help was when I gave birth to my daughter. I was so afraid of her learning my behaviors that 2 months postpartum I began intensive counseling. And while Shane is insufferable, I see a lot of similar beliefs, fatphobia, and self-hatred in the way he talks about himself. I hope he finally gets some help for the sake of his child.
Good on you mama!
He is supposedly in recovery. Shane just can’t help playing a stupid character though when the camera is on him which is really unfortunate.
I’m really proud of you for tackling your problems head on, especially while you’re recovering from growing and delivering a whole new person. I’m rooting for you!
I also have binge eating disorder, so I empathize with the internalized fat phobia and shame being horrible. I think my habit was fueled in part by messages I gleaned from my parents in my youth. You are doing an amazing thing by healing, not just for your daughter, but also for yourself. You deserve happiness and a healthy relationship with food, and your little girl will learn that she deserves those things, too. 💗
honestly, he has worse problems than that, like clearly being interested in kids in some sexual way
Honestly they should just buy one of those super realistic babies and play house when they feel like it. As a mom of 2, I am so scared for this child.
William Osman rented a racoon for a day. Now he's a dad and calls his little one "Potato."
This sounds awful but he's a hilarious guy and his wife is lovely.
It's like they don't even realize that people are highly critical of family channels that exploit the children. Like they're trying to fix Shane's problematic persona by rolling in to a problematic genre of TH-cam videos. I can't 😆
Exactly. I study psychology and a professor recently, mentioned the children of the family channels on TH-cam and compared them to child actors and stars in general, and said that researchers in the future, will have so much material to work with, simply because of those children which is honestly, really morbid to think about. If they genuinely cared about their future child, they wouldn’t choose this “family channel” route. You would think that since both of them spend most of their time on social media (saying this as somebody who had no idea about the Bella hadid smoothie ffs), they would be smart enough not to do this, but I guess anything for money and clout🤷🏻♀️
Ryland mentioned them not showing their child in the videos in the future. So they’re probably going to base their content on buying the kid stupid $hit
People are critical but they are also huge money spinners. People who watch commentary and so forth forget the majority of people just click videos and move on. They have no idea that there is even a scandal around Shane and are genuinely excited he’s having a baby. There’s at least a million of us onto his bullshit but that still leaves a few million who genuinely live for Shane’s content and are insanely happy about this. Check his comments it’s like there are two worlds: those who know about Shane and those who still watch Shane and never the Twain shall meet in his comment section
@@kat6569 ok. I mean this in the nicest way. If you’re studying you should know you use waaaay too many commas. You’re creating comma splice which is when you cut a clause (a single standing meaningful part of the sentence) in half.
I wouldn’t usually make a comment on punctuation but as someone that marks papers you’d lose at least a couple of marks from me for all those comma splices so I hope this doesn’t offend you but commas don’t go where you would draw in breath or to create a beat in a sentence. They are just there to organise sentence clauses. That said we do tend to pause if we see one while reading so it chops your writing into a stutter. Also, I assume you’re not using an Oxford comma so very rarely will a comma go after the word ‘and’ as this really only happens in a list with more than one object. Explaining doesn’t matter just know they don’t go after the word and pretty much all the time even if it feels like you want to put one there.
Again trying to be helpful. No offence meant.
@@plutonium2 None taken. I appreciate the feedback.
Trisha was right when she called Ryland Shane's lapdog.
He even gives dog vibes somehow 💀
It makes me sad, actually, the whole situation grosses me out 🤢😬
she wasn’t wrong about a lot of things
@@SquishyMain chihuahua 💀
@@drewberriesandcreamallot of trolling and craziness with a dash of truth 😂 I love it
Rylands relationship with Shane, reminds me of a teen mom who gets pregnant on prom night... She thinks she'll be with the father for the rest of her life. But, after giving birth, realizes that the father is a lazy deadbeat, and ops to become a single mother; because she doesn't want to raise two children. Shane is the second child. Does he even bathe? Yeah... He's going to be a super involved, excellent Dad. 😝
Much worse these are two fully developed Adults here making huge life-changing decisions. Don't understand what a teen mom (minor) has to do with this mess anyone can end up being a Single/Divorced woman with a child. Anyway, these two are a hot damn mess only feel bad for the "child" if it even exists.😂
@@prettyxbonez96 One. Yes, I fully understand that they are 'adults', hence the comment 'reminds' me of (and the entire basis of my joke)...because they (mostly Ryland) are approaching parenthood with the same enthusiasm/whimsical ideology, as a teen mom would. Where Shane seems aloof and only going along with the plan to make Ryland happy; while displaying no true excitement for parenthood.
Two. My comment in no way, shape or form meant to 'bash', or 'make fun of' minors, single mothers, nor single parents of any age. I did not intend for it to be that deep. I've seen teen parents be extremely responsible and maintain marriage. I've seen adults not maintain marriage, and be crappy parents.
Three. Some 'prom night'/teen mother's, can include eighteen year olds.
It was simply a joke observation based on a stereotype. And meant no harm, or disrespect.
@@prettyxbonez96 I think they used a teen mom to speak about the naïveté that comes with teenage hood and believing that you’ll be with your first boyfriend forever
You having to doubt if Shane even bathes , a grown man, says more than enough about him
@@LauraS475 Yes, thank you.
As a genetic counselor, they either didn't get any (or poor)genetic counseling before and after the test, or they didn't absorb the info/are faking it for the camera. If you go through a legit place they should have a licensed certified genetic counselor walk them through the results
Ah someone I can ask. So did they just yank 30 whole ass eggs out of that lady? Don’t we only make one a month? Isn’t that a buttload of eggs? Thanks in advance! 😂😊
@@plutonium2 from birth you have all the eggs you’ll ever have in your life. I presume you are mixing up an egg with a period. Your period is when the lining of your uterus sheds
@@plutonium2 The eggs are all pre-loaded in the ovaries, and I can't remember the exact egg count but it's in hundred thousand to million range. Only one egg is released from the ovaries for the monthly cycle though.
@@plutonium2 not sure if it's changed since my friend did it 14 years ago but from what I remember you are given a set of injections that you have to self-administer for a few weeks/months (depending on how well you respond to it) and they monitor your hormone levels and do scans to check all going right.
The medication causes the ovaries to mature multiple eggs at once instead of the usual one. Once they think the time is right they harvest the lot and then carefully screen to narrow down which are good enough to use. If you've not produced many good ones at that time then you do it all over again until they have enough healthy, strong eggs set aside to go forward with. I think they got about 30 out of my friend's first go and thankfully they had enough to try for fertilization.
$10 says they have a surrogate over in India or another country where poor women are exploited as cheap surrogates. Surrogacy can be a wonderful thing, but not when it’s under desperate circumstances. Them getting results by mail with no guidance leads me to think this is one of the surrogacy places in India where they’re basically buying a baby.
Omg that is so true about him always making fun of women! When he says something dumb he imitates a woman's voice. All his female characters are negative tropes like 'stupid blondes', racial stereotypes, shaming women for being sexually active, e.ds. ect. I dont think hes ever truly empowered women, or at least without doing it in some sort of backhanded compliment
Fun fact, the biggest indicator that a couple won't last is if they show contempt towards each other, ie eye rolling, name calling, passive aggression. It shows a lack of respect for the partner.
contempt is the EXACT word i would use to describe their whole vibe lol
Isn't passive aggression normal?
@@rawrdino7046 lighthearted teasing? Yes. Malicious comments aimed to tear the other down? No.
Sources?
@@rawrdino7046 normal, yes. Healthy? No
Last year I was considering to become an egg donor, went trough many interviews with doctors and all that, so I find THIS particular process so WEIRD!
1. They just get the results by mail instead of getting an appointment for the doctor to walk them through what all that means.
2. They contacted their donor!!!! Here everything is COMPLETELY anonymous to protect both parties and avoid dumb biases.
These two don't seem prepared at all! It just doesn't look serious.
They definitely should’ve had an appointment which was odd. However, open surrogacy does exist. They’ve already explained earlier on that they want the surrogate to be known to their children since she will be the biologically mother and that is the case for some people. They said she agreed before the entire process. Kinda common for homosexual couples to be open because how are you going to explain to your kids when they’re older “where’s mom/dad?”.
It sounds like the donor contacted them but that still seems insanely sketchy to me. It all seems very “wellness centre” as opposed to “fertility clinic”.
You can have anon or nonanon donations. I get the feeling they’re using an overseas donor and an overseas surrogate and an overseas doctor since getting results by mail is not how it should be done. Something is wrong.
@@ExtreemDreemer If the surrogate is also the egg donor, then she can decide after birth that she wants custody. That’s federal. If a surrogate is using another person’s egg, then they don’t have rights to keep the baby. If they don’t know the difference (attorneys are supposed to be involved), then this surrogacy is likely either fake or possibly illegal.
@@plutonium2 ya that’s definitely super creepy. Because she’s probably a fan. Which is an issue for me
This is actually terrifying? Like, they should be going to parenthood classes and talking to childhood development experts, doing interviews with the ivf doctors to talk abt the process. So much more than this bs.
People typically don't even announce that they are pregnant until a certain time because of the risk of miscarriage early on in pregnancy. I'm very surprised they are vlogging this so prematurely and I think it's entirely possible they will be disappointed. I do, however, think this journey could be a good education tool about surrogacy, but it doesn't seem like they are going that route lol
if a miscarriage happens you KNOW they will clickbait the shit out of it. its not their body, so not their trauma.
We also know this person probably recently started following them on Instagram, it’s a privacy problem. Plus if they can watch her social media they might criticize the mother for attending certain events for example..or certain actions that look unsafe to them. I am afraid for her. I know too much surveillance is not healthy. They can’t create a bond either, it’s business not a sister wife.
They're so unaware of real life that they probably didn't even consider the fact a miscarriage could happen.
I think I'm less concerned about Trisha being a parent than Shane being one.. That says a lot.
🤔🤔
I’m not gonna say that’s misogynistic, but I will say I think it’s important to unpack we feel like that. Trisha has a similar history of racism, hate, and (theoretical) trolling, as well as a clear need for attention.
I do agree though, because as far as I’ve seen Trisha hasn’t exhibited the same self-infantilization that Shane does.
I think Trisha puts on more of a show and is technically less of a wacko than Shane, so I have to agree
@@HushSkunk
1. I think you mean misandrist, not misogynistic. Unless you're implying that saying a woman being a better parent than a man is sexist to women? Regardless, the comment isn't sexist at all to anyone, the genders of the people involved are completely irrelevant, the comment is referring to who they are as people.
2. Racism, hate, etc. is also completely irrelevant here?? The concern is the child being neglected and abused by abusive and unstable people with an extremely weak moral foundation, as well as questionable behavior and comments around children, not that they make shitty jokes.
3. Trisha trolls, Shane does not. Trisha has BPD which isn't great as a parent, but she's at least in counseling and on medication for it which can severely reduce the symptoms and allow a person to live a healthy and stable life. Shane is almost certainly a narcissist, for which there's no treatment and abuse and instability are inherent factors of the disorder. So long as she stays the path (and thus far she very much seems to), Trisha's child will be ok, maybe even flourish. Shane, who is spiteful, impatient, abusive, sexually perverse and obsessed, and possibly a pedophile, with behavior that is overall unstable, inappropriate, and pathological, will destroy any child put in his hands, even if he doesn't physically harm them. The best anyone can hope for Shane's child is that Ryland leaves him and gets full custody.
She has shown a lot of growth and has an amazing husband that's why
You articulated so much with "This video has me really questioning the amount of information that Shane and Ryland are able to absorb from their basic interaction with the world"
These so-called people are the epitome of "every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child".
Wait - they're teasing people about "finding out the gender", and there's not even a pregnancy yet??
You can find out the gender of embryos before they’re implanted
Imagine growing up and finding out your dad said all the things he said and did 🤢 hopefully they can just watch Nick's videos instead
Imagine watching these videos about your dads 🫣 it would suck to realise you were a TH-cam graft run by two idiots
I’m 38 weeks pregnant, so my baby could come anytime. I find it disgusting that they are already making money off this baby that isn’t even here yet, I hate TH-camrs who make money on their children, I don’t watch family channels.
Congratulations on the pregnancy!! Wishing you well!! And yes family channels are disgusting tbh like these poor kids!
hope you and baby are doing good!!
Absolutely agree, and I hope all is going well for you and your baby!!!
Happy for u + congrats ❤🎉
I 100% agree with you. And congratulations I hope you have a safe delivery
as a fellow film gay thank u for ur efforts in protecting us from having to watch shane dawson’s content 🙏🙏
Amen!
I've never watched a second of Shane's content on his channel, and now I'll never have to.
As a fellow aging twink, I appreciate his work but now feel called out for my Aging Twink Short Beard. 😂
(Fellow, bah, I'm older than Ryland and Nick - probably put together.)
@@totallylooney8292 🤣Don't feel bad brother, it's a thing for a reason! I am sure it's extremely cute. Twinks rarely outgrow that ability. Aside from this instance, of course.
I mean, am I the only one who thinks it looks insane on Shane Dawson's face? He looks way better without it, and I don't know why he nor Ryland hate being without facial hair so profoundly. I mean, I'm no therapist. But I have some theories as to what those patchy ass beards mean to them and why it causes them borderline(???) dysphoria.
@@totallylooney8292embrace your aging twink short beard!!
I praise Ryland for being a component partner.
He takes care of the herds of animals, deals with Shane, manages his channel and pod, plus every 6 month they UPROOT and move a whole state away.
I would not be surprised of Ryland left Shane after the children. It will be too much for him to handle while Shane is sleep bc of his erratic sleeping schedule.
Fully agree.
That would be cool. If he doesn’t put them on camera I’d watch Ryland be a soccer mom and talk shit about Shane. I would be in it mostly for the Shane spite but a click is a click. Spite might just make this man’s career. He just has to come to hate shane as much as everyone else does.
I love your optimism, but I'm hazarding a bet that people were saying the same thing about Onision's partner, because they have kids together. But no.
The second Shane went in the baby’s birth certificate Id divorce him for that fat child support check
Competent? A competent partner?
is it just me or is Nick reading Shane a form of therapy? lmao 😂
hahaha it is for me!
@@NickDiRamioTV slay! literally listening to you before I go to bed ❤
YAASSS! I’ve been trying to put it into words! 👏🏻
HAHAHA! I was only 1:55 in and I was like "damnnnnnn Nick" lol Read them for filth within the first 2 minutes!
Literally lol!
When Nick said that kids only used to watch Shane Dawson because they were trying to get over their shitty day in seventh grade. I screamed because that was completely accurate for me and my friend!!!😂
STOP ME TOO DUDE
Fuck me 3 😂shade Dawson tv 📺 was definitely part of my shitty childhood
Same😂
I am always glad that I’ve never watched any of these controversial YTbers people talk about. Every time I look at them and question why millions of people follow people who are so ugly inside and unattractive/lame/shallow/vapid/ignorant/boring. Just goes to show you can be mediocre to awful and succeed if you’re privileged.
Meanwhile, far more interesting minority channels are fighting algorithms everywhere, even the bigger ones (if they’re black/brown-white Latinx people have a way better chance).
I just can’t imagine Shane as a dad. He doesn’t take anything seriously.
If Shane is already starving for attention, I feel so worried for his baby... It wont be all about him anymore and I hope he can handle it for their child's sake
The thought of these two raising a child together is honestly tragic. That poor poor child.
As a parent, I am always grossed out about this child already being exploited.
I can smell Shane through the screen. No bueno. He gives, "dirty wyt boy" a new meaning. Hopefully Ryland can teach the kid about hygiene. 🤷🏽♀️🤞🏼Also, if the kids does come you just know they are going to monetize the shit outta a face reveal. Or the promise of one. They'll start out saying they respect the kids privacy. But that'll only last about five minutes. They are running out of clout and putting a kid in front of that camera is a way to stay relevant. 🤢
I think its gonna start with "oh hes just a newborn we wont put him on camera later when his face gets more recognisable" and then just get confused about when to stop putting him on camera.
Nah they will go full Paytas and be sending pics from the birthing room.
I also predict 5-minutes of privacy.
@BambiLena666 @Plutonium Praxis @aka stardust
I think we should just start a pool. Those are some pretty good wagers 😂. Feels like we might all just be a little bit right on this one. 🤣. Ugh. Poor kid.
@@silverserpent420 im in. TEN BUCKS ON HOSPITAL PIGGY FACES
I'm a six time egg donor and it is SO illegal for me to find my intended parents online and message them lol I'm sure their contract is different with them being public figures but like, we can't do that lol.
The way my husband runs into the room anytime he hears me playing your videos, especially ones about Shane is seriously the best thing 🤣
My boyfriend is the same way! It’s because no matter who you are, Nick is *objectively* funny.
@@Deus_ex_lucifina The truthiest of truths !
Omg that's so lovely I'm so alone lmao
The line "take your prenatals" was my reminder to take my birth control pill for today. Thanks Nick!!
But that's the opposite
That’s why I have the arm birth control. I’m WAY too forgetful. 😂🙄
@@EmoBunny69 arm birth control gang
omg i need to take mine 😳
@@narcopsy it was a clever “joke” ✌️🥰
I honestly do feel bad for Ryland despite him standing by Shane, whether it's out of genuine love or for money. He seems to be the only one of them competent enough to be a parent and I imagine most of the work will fall on him. Shane will probably just want to do the "fun things" like picking out their clothes and decorating their room. I hope they don't have twins since taking care of one baby will be hard enough with an absentee co-parent. Plus Shane just doesn't treat Ryland well, always doing things without considering his feelings and constantly saying he's annoying 😬
Shane eating the frosting off all the donuts without telling Ryland would’ve been an instant divorce for me.
I don’t feel sorry for him. He knows what’s up but stays. He loves whatever he’s getting out of it.He’s a lame with a lame.
They truly don’t know how fucking hard it is to be parents. My daughter is a wonderfully behaved toddler and I still have days where I have to go in another room and cry because it’s so overwhelming and isolating to be a mom. They are going to be shocked and miserable because they’ll realize they can’t be self centered and parents. Or… they can but not DECENT parents. But do they even care about that… 🙄
I’m really happy you feel comfortable enough being honest about the realities of parenting, and especially motherhood. I know moms feel so much pressure to try to put on a brave face and some feel guilty about talking about how hard being a mother is, but being honest is so important. I hope you have people to help support you and your child
My now-husband bought me a baby name book as a gift like 6 weeks into dating, not thinking about any implications. He just knows I’ve always loved names.
Aw that's so sweet
i adore this
haha i love names too!! i have a whole list in my phone of names i like, i love hearing someone else is like that
I dont know if they were joking, but Ryland sounded serious with that comment about twins and it creeps me the hell out. It sounded like it just crossed their minds and thinking from a surogate perspective (which is already exploitative af) they agreed for a baby. Not twins. I can already imagine them pressuring her for it and the thought of negotiating a price for twins makes me a little sick.
Contacting the surrogate isnt unusual, and a lot of people talk and stay in touch, though it does bring a lot of issues, because sometimes people can feel like they are becoming friends or something, which can be especially painful for the surrogate because they might expect contact to continue after birth and even being in the kids life only to be dropped and ignored after they give birth. Not to mention it can also bring problems in the sense of the parents trying to be controlling of the surrogate during pregnancy and trying to "supervise" them.
I really do hate surrogacy as a random paid service, theres so many things that can be really awful for the surrogate, and lets be really honest here, you never see rich people offering themselves up as surrogates for strangers.
Is it possible to induce twins? That doesn't seem ethical...
@@FairyBogFather Yes, its not uncommon actually because couples often "want to get as many kids done in one swoop" basically because they have multiple viable embrios. So they will ask to try for twins. But at the very minimum they discuss it with the agency before finding a surrogate and all.
And yes, I completely agree its not ethical. Though imo a lot of things about surrogacy arent ethical.
My dog was named Quinoa. I don't think quinoa as a food was as popular in 2008 when we adopted her, a lot of people didn't know what it was. But she came from a rescue agency where they drive dogs from full shelters in the south to foster or adoptive families in other states. And I guess volunteers were intentionally giving the dogs weird names, and her name stuck. That's how you end up with a dog named Quinoa. I don't know how you get a baby named Quinoa.
Amy is that you???
Honestly, the only way I can envision a child being named Quinoa is a suburban white soccer mom who saw some famous actress talking about it in a magazine and she thought it sounded "so unique", so she decides they're naming their daughter that, except she doesn't know how to pronounce it, so her daughter's name is "quinn-oh-ah". Bonus points if the child is adopted and the mom picked it because she thinks it sounds "ethic/foreign" 🙄😂
As someone fostering kittens yes we do give weird names so people pick them
Here are some of the names from most normal to god awful: Tangy, Fudgesicle, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Seige, Jared Leto’s Morbius
Nah their previous owner probably called her that. Pets often get named food, and someone from the American south could reasonably be of a culture that eats it
Keenwa
The only baby I want to hear updates on is sweet baby Toast! How is that little cutie doing?
Is it Toast or Totes? I hear it both ways!
@@plutonium2 I think it's Toast!
@@Rain_boot soooo cuuute! I thought she went from Toto (a la wizard of oz) to Totes and I was like oNg Nick is so creative and millennial?!? But apparently i just can’t hear lol
@@plutonium2 Lool "So creative and millennial??" is the new quote of the year
@@Rain_boot haha
I totally agree with what you said about Shane and Ryland’s lack of knowledge about the process indicating their privilege. When Shane was talking about having twins I’m like… the risk of complications goes up for the pregnant person and the babies when there’s multiple of them! Hope they don’t end up pursuing this for the health of the surrogate
50 MINUTES! And just when I'm settling in to watch something for the evening. Thank you for providing icon royalty Nick 🙏🙏🙏
Hope you enjoyed it! thank youuuu
@@NickDiRamioTV I almost had a heart attack when I seen you uploaded! I am so happy, thank you!
@@makemesomecoffee7821 a treat!
I hope their viewers DO realize that their levels of passive aggression are not normal. When I am mad at my partner I tell him. We don't go back and forth about why each of us has a harder time or is worse than the other. If my partner treated me like (mostly Shane) they treat each other ON CAMERA the relationship would be over in an instant. Also yall are SO funny together. Maybe my favorite guest you've ever had on!
I’m sick as a dog today with the flu and your humor is the exact distraction I need. Thank you for your service, Nick 🙋🏻♀️
Get better soon ❤
Hope you feel better soon!
Feel better soon Tootsy!! ❤
Me too😭
Me too 😭 hope you feel better!!
In the immortal words of Kayta "if you have a baby you can't be the baby."
I have dyscalculia (dyslexia but with numbers) and I'm a mathematical genius compared to those two putting their single brain cells together to figure out how much 2 + 4 is.
LMAO
As an egg donor (4 time donor) Shane’s video gives me ick.. they are explaining it so poorly and it is such a hard process for everyone involved. Also i hope they had some kind of consent from the donor. i would not want my donation count broadcasted.. the whole video can prevent the donor from donating again so i hope it was worth it for them 🤷♀️
Shane barely bothers to look after himself, and the two of them together couldn't keep a kitten alive for more than a couple of weeks or whatever it was. Apart from literal convicted criminals, I can't think of many people who should be trusted LESS to be responsible for a child. Really hope the whole thing is just a clickbait attention grab and doesn't actually happen, otherwise Fs in chat for that poor kid. 💀
With all the nasty stuff Shane has been involved in with children in the past, were he not protected by his fame he *would* be a convicted criminal.
Thank God, they're having children. When the kids go to primary school they can learn basic math with them.
We need laws to protect kids in family vlogs.... like.... yesterday. But before this little enters the world would do just fine.
We protect child actors, we need to protect vlog kids!😢
when I was a kid I had this baby name book that listed people's first impressions under each name. the first impression for mine was "a homely, heavy-set, old, Irish woman" and I cried lmao
i have to know ur name now
Like my mom says "Every family has their "thing." In Shane and Ryland's case it's all social media all the time.
My mom also followed up with "except mine." To which I replied "Except that our family is entirely matriarchal because the men die young?" And my mom is like "Well, there's that." I think my family was also cursed by a dark wizard.
Ty for this story it made me laugh while sitting through the horror that is watching shane
Their "thing" is exploitation of minors 😭😞 I can't, y'all.
Also that's scary! So sorry, that's gotta be stressful omg. Like final destination stuff if you're a dude in the family 😂😭 (sorry if that's insensitive, I'm sick & blown 🌿 bad combination for brain thoughts lol 😬)
@Jaseeka Rawr Not insensitive at all. Our family has this weird dark victorian humor about it. When I was a little kid and my brother would get me angry, I used to tell my older brother that "he would die young." Which would be really mean but we’re both adopted and I'm not sure if it works that way 🤷♀️
@@TheBrokeCyberWanderer Ooohh I think you are exempt from generational curses if adopted 😆🥳
I respectfully demand a 12-issue comic series about this accursed family. (Like, for real, it's such a great writing prompt!)
Gonna be honest: I'm over 50 and before finding your channel, Shane Dawson was a name I'd heard around but could never really tell you what he did. My only experience of him is through this channel, but I'm hooked on this series.
Sometimes I think about how the psychic twins said Shane would be in a relationship with a man for about 10 years and then they’d break up. They’ve been together for 7. This baby’s gonna kill them 😬
(Not putting a lot of stake in a psychic twins reading but I’m still like 👀👀)
Idk if we can always trust psychics but like... 👀
God willing this baby will be the making of the man with Ryland and he will just up and take 50% of all Shane’s shit and split with the kids. Married in LA so ten years makes sense. That’s the starter point for half of everything and gossip blogs have taught me that quite a few richies hold out for the ten OR bolt before it depending on who has sad stacks of cash
Fr lmao👀👀
So excited to see you Collab with Mika! I died at ‘Shane is patient zero for cooties’ you two come up with the best burns.
I love you, Nick. You're the theater friend I've always wanted, and watching your videos makes my days better.
Get a gay bestie. It’s the way things were meant to be.
Man, Shane really has all the hallmarks of narcissistic personality disorder when you see him interacting with Ryland
You and Mika are a DYNAMIC duo!!! Both intelligent af AND genuinely funny?! Wooo that’s dangerous! MORE PLEASE. ✊🖤✨
It's situations like this is why I wish there was some sort of laws to protect children in relation to TH-cam. Unlike most cases, where family channels kind of popped up out of innocently wanting to share their life only to turn into exploitation of children, in this case we literally see from the very beginning (BEFORE the child is even born mind you) the signs that this is a child is meant to be nothing more, but a product to produce money as well as not only "fix" their careers, but arguably their relationship as well. In the end, we can only report things that have happened, not what will eventually happen. I just really wish there was a way to deeply look into couples on whether they have good intentions, or not, or whether they're physically/mentally good enough to raise a child. It's hard to really judge, but I really worry for this child. Regardless of whether the child is exploited, or not for content, I'm genuinely concerned with also how Shane will raise this child. We all know this dude's background when it comes to children. He literally got "cancelled" for it at one point. I just genuinely am shocked there isn't a system in place to really check on whether people really deserve, or can take care of these children.
this collab has the enbies gagged omg unexpected but exactly what we needed
🥰🥰🥰
@@MikasRhetoricsurprised to see you in this vid!! But very happy🎉
Since this actually seems to be happening, I bet that Rylans mom is the one to actually be taking care of the kid for the rest of their lives
Yup her or a train of nannies.
All I can think about is that poor kid growing up and then getting on TH-cam to see all the disgusting and problematic behavior of his dad. I would feel so ashamed to have Shane as my dad.
it truly makes me realize how Garret and Andrew provided most of the ideas for Shane's videos, bc GOD he sucks at yt now
praying for that child! stay strong sis, only 18 years. just try and get on shane's will and everything will be okay.
If they actually get access to a baby my jaw will hit the floor. I hope between Ryland and the nanny the baby will be somewhat safe?
I literally did not know anything about their “parenthood journey” 😂 this is the first i’ve heard of it
Literally same
Nick has mentioned in his other Shane Dawson videos
I wish today was my first time hearing about this
Them trying to figure out 4+2(pulling out the calculator)at the end was so sad and hilarious 😭..future prayers to their future child
Math is my WORST subject and this part even had me screaming at the screen 😩
@@Kawaiilee_ Numbers make my head hurt, but I'm starting to think I'm not so bad.
omg mika x nick crossover!! thank you for bringing her on, love to see the creator support
Even as someone with dyscalculia, watching them stumble over adding “we have six of each” was pretty terrible.
Makes me embarrassed to admit I would get easily fumbled by all the specific back and forth break down. 🙄
I have many thoughts on how they're already exploiting their "uncooked" baby via click bate titles. But I really hope if one does come into fruition, they don't continue to do so.
*bait
Jfc it's been a long day lmao
i just wonder if shane and ryland have really considered that this is a lifelong decision. not just for them, but for their baby. it's a scary amount of responsibility. i'm not saying they shouldn't have kids, but just, have they really thought about the future of all of this? just my opinion, but poor baby.
Probably not. They got alpacas impulsively
The way I stopped everything I was doing to watch this the second I got the notification 😂
you are the best!
I'm obsessed with the energy that Mika is bringing to this video! 😍 I love the back-and-forth.
OH I AM SOOO EXCITED TO SEE YOU TALK TO MIKA.!!!!
She has a great channel and is (like you said) an AMAZING critical mind!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR LIKING BOTH OF US 🥰🥰🥰
when he announced that I got so excited lol
@@MikasRhetoric I just found your channel a week ago (the sneako video) and I thought you were hilarious! so excited to watch this one with you and Nick! ❤
@@elen5871 SAMEE hehe i freaked 😆
I had to watch this in bursts because my name is Mika, and it kept throwing me off when you said it🤣🤣
The collab I never knew I needed 💖
✌️😙✌️
omg mika and nick team up is what this site needs
I love the way that you sprinkle in the interview. I thought that was a wonderful touch. Your video editing, and video making skills are amazing! I love your videos so much!❤
Nick is a really excellent editor. It’s striking and made me anxious to make Stan videos about him. I too study film but my editing is assssss
I have never wished for anyone to not get a child so badly as I do for Shane. I think Ryland wouldn't even be that bad of a parent, but with a partner like Shane, who is basically acting like a child himself and already is a full time job to take care of (not to mention the mini zoo they own at this point) he won't stand a chance.
I was just about to go to sleep as it's 3am but you know who needs sleep when there is THIS
you are the best!
Thank you thank you for having captions on your videos, especially ones that are available as soon as the video is uploaded!
I love the way Nick amplifies smaller channels ❤️ and basically everything else about Nick too 💕🥰
Just found this channel maybe 2 days ago and I've been binging all nicks videos on Shane. This my first time getting a notification for a new vid and I'm so happy to be here early for once 😁😁
OMG!! The collab we NEEDED but but never considered possible!! Mika rocks and so do you Nick 😍
Also your writing for these videos is fucking amazing. You make me laugh every time. 😂😂😂
Omg thank you so much!!!
Imagine being there surrogate and they cavalierly tell you that they want you to have two babies at the same time instead of one like that has no bearing on your health or body whatsoever
Okay but the collab between my two favorites talking about my two least favorites ugh love it! ❤
I can’t imagine Shane being a parent. He’s not mature enough. Everything is a joke to him and he’s always looking for approval from everyone around him.
DAMN NICK! I’ve been watching clip breakdown for years but you have REALLY stepped your game up! The editing, the producing, the original graphics (don’t think we don’t notice!) and even the fun guest. Obviously Sh*ne D*wson content is popular content for your channel, but I’m so impressed with this one!
I need more Nick and Mika yall were sooo funny together. Always looove your videos Nick
Mika was such a great guest! And I loved the aesthetic Nick used for Mika's portions.