130 - Ton Colossus Takes The Air (1949)
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Filton airfield, Bristol, Avon.
MV Brabazon on airfield. SV Pan Bristol Brabazon aircraft. SV Engines and wing. SV Tail unit. CU Bill Pegg with two other men. SV Engine showing contra- rotating props. SV Engineer examining nose wheel. SV Pan Test Pilot William Pegg and engineers walking towards Brabazon. CU Brabazon showing name. SV Bill Pegg climbs ladder and enters aircraft. MV Brabazon on end of runway. MV Bill Pegg looking from cockpit window. SV No 1 engine being revved up. MV No 1 engine going. No 2 engine being started. MV Bill Pegg at window. SV Brabazon taxiing out. Pan SV Types looking on. MV Brabazon starts West-East taxi test down runway. MV People looking through wire fence. MV Travel shot Brabazon taxiing down runway. LV Crowd sitting on roof top watching. MV Towards Brabazon taxiing down runway. SV Pan nose of aircraft as it taxis down runway. LV Towards and pan Brabazon taxiing down runway. Front wheel lifts then undercarriage. Aircraft climbs steadily away. MV Back view aircraft climbing away from runway. LV People sitting on rooftop watching. LV Brabazon in flight. Side view. MV Side view Brabazon in flight. LV Three-quarter view Brabazon on final approach. LV Brabazon over runway. Touches down and taxis along runway, past fire wagon. MV Brabazon moving slowly along runway.
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I was in Kingsbury Primary School on that day. All the children were herded out in the playground. I can still remember seeing it fly overhead.
How old were you in 1949?
HIW OLD R U HOW R U STILL ALIVE
It looks as if it's taking off in slow motion. Impressive size.
It kind of was by today's standards.
@@stephenbrookes7268 nah but for that time it was impressive
@@RealPlatoishere It was a typical horse designed by committee. Out of date before the ink was dry on the drawings.
@ Steven brooks it wasn’t out of date. The Constellation Starliner would make its first flight 7 years later and only be in service for one year before regular jet service started replacing it.
The problem was no market. The British Empire was shrinking and no airlines had the cash or passengers to justify it. Airliners like the huge Stratocruiser lost a lot of money because of how expensive they were to purchase and operate.
@@calvinnickel9995 You have literally described the conditions of being out of date. You couldn't even spell my name correctly when it is written down. What other examples of idiocy would you like to display?
My father worked on the Brabazon after working on Beaufighters during the war. My grandfather was Site Agent for Laing on the new Filton Brabazon hanger. There was a combined staff trip to Clevedon. My father went and my grandfather took two of his daughters one of whom became my mum. Her sister married another Laing guy and in 1968 he arranged for me to also join Laing as the start to a 54 year career in construction. We had the famous Brabazon picture in our living room for years.
Tip of the cap to your father...the world owes a lot to that particular generation.
Dad had pictures of the Beau on the same album page as the Mosquitos he was training on at No. 51 OTU. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the course syllabus had some trips in the Beau as they had some of the older radar sets in them. Training was thorough in those days and he spoke of using several different sets on the course.
Вы замечательный человек,если с такой теплотой поведали нам о своих предках !Спасибо!
Built a piece of crap
Thank you for the so warm story
Thank god someone did count the rivets
Makes me wonder why they didn't count them for the Titanic? Seems a tragedy.
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@@jeremyfinch2835 3,000,000 million rivets in the titanic.
@@thecornercomplex58483 trillion rivets? Lol
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I saw the Brabazon overfly Liverpool around 1950 or thereabouts, my father worked at RAF Hooton Park at the time and told me to look out for it, it flew over around midday quite a sight for a young 9/10 yo lad.
Now that's a cool lie
Built with NOT one computer. A thing of beauty.
Lots of slide rule usage though. Amazing engineering.
Plenty of slide rules.
Lots of planes were built without a computer, they sucked. You sound like a luddite. "they don't make cars like they used to, they put all these computers in them." yeah, they're safer, faster, better gas mileage, better handling, better braking; what more do you old timers want? Go fly on a plane back in those days and you were taking your life in your hands. Now it is the safest form of travel. Thank god we put computers in these things to help us fly them.
I lived in Filton Avenue , Bristol at the time of the engine tests . As a 3 year old I was terrified by the noise of the engine tests . One of my earliest memories .
Just curious, which were louder, the engines or the props ?
@@joemag6032 props
@@davidmicalizio824 , thanks for responding.
nobody vandalising statues in Bristol in those days
@@dotdashdotdash out of topic!
Pathe always had unique clear crisp footage of the early twentieth century! Class!!!
This is one of those many aircraft that should have been preserved. It would be a sight to see.
For a second, I thought it was going to stall on take off. So smooth!
Same. At or just soon after
Yeah. 160 mph is pretty slow for a plane that size.
@@nk7155 nah, usually larger aircraft are slower
@@startingbark0356 Larger aircraft don’t usually fly slower. They often have to fly faster, because they are heavier and they need to generate more lift. The reason this plane is probably able to takeoff and fly so slow is because it has little payload and is particularly light.
A 767 can takeoff at 108kts when it weighs 90,000kgs, but it can only takeoff at 170kts at 190,000kgs. That’s the exact same plane and the only thing that changed was the weight.
@@nicholai1008 no, they bigger they have more drag
The village of Charleton was demolished to extend the runway for the Brabazon.
In the jet age the aircraft was already obsolete and never came into service.
The propellor sound is, to use a modern phrase, truly awesome and I would think unmistakable. Great film footage.
Ini kerana is
Right? Counter-rotating props in this video sound distinct from anything ive heard in person.
Turboprops.
@@funnyrabbitflyer6855 CONTRA-rotating. Counter-rotating props are separated, like on the Chinook or Osprey.
I heard that when airborne and the sound terrified me as a very young boy. Totally unmistakable, just as Concorde was later on.
Much respect for building her with hardly the technology that everyone is used to these days!
Concorde soon followed on
Technology has ruined this world already and will control your soul one day if you dont put your trust in Christ Jesus.
For comparison with modern planes, the Brabazon was as long as a Boeing 767 (180ft), but had a much larger wingspan (230ft vs 150).
Some of the comments on here absolutely begged belief? The Brabazon had eight engines, one for each of its four contra rotating props, it was not in any way stalling as it flew, 160kts is pretty much flat out for an aircraft of that time, it’s failure was due to the fact that in 1949 jets had been flying for 6 years, this aircraft was abandoned for that reason and although it took a few more years before jet passenger aircraft flew, the Bristol company’s next attempt was the Britannia, a turbo prop aircraft that was ahead of its time for about 10 days before everything without jets were obsolete. That was the pace of progress at that time, 1949 piston engine aircraft that could nearly make London New York, 1969 Concorde M2.00 at 65,000’
Thanks for sharing!
Notice the great care taken by the pilot in demonstrating the airplane well within its limits and never losing sight of the fact that it’s not all about him. It amazes me how any flight organization can allow the kinds of out-of-control personalities to fly air shows, who ultimately cause terrible catastrophes. The way this pilot flies is how it’s done.
Yes, arrogant egos cause a lot of grief.
"There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots."
He could have at least done a barrel roll.
It wasn't an air show. It was a maiden flight. Notice the announcer was even uncertain that it was going to take off rather than simply taxi again.
@@Beezlie727 - Same rule applies: don’t crash the plane.
It reminds me of a "Constellation", a plane I was always excited to see overhead when I was a kid.
Good, old Connie didn't even weigh the half of that Brabazon colossus ...
@@letoubib21 But it was profitable.
@@jrt818 I like the Connie, too. She was a very good plane *. . .*
The Constellation and the Brabazon both had a tapering fuselage, beautiful but more expensive to build.
Wow the engineers did a fantastic job
No computers. Just slide rules and hand drawn blue prints. All those 1.5 million rivets bucked be hand.
@@jerrybennett7856 It's amazing!
@@jerrybennett7856 That inpresses me more than this generations cell phones.
@@kimdiez2681 me too.
Saw a doc on this about 20 years ago. The plane landed so softly the pilots actually had a light on the panel that told them when the wheels touched down. I believe it flew for a few years. Since it was so comparably slow (and took so long to cross the ocean) the interior still followed the concept of a “cruise ship of the skies”, and couldn’t economically compete with faster competing aircraft.
Too bad it wasn’t preserved in a museum, as was the Spruce Goose. Sadly out of date before or just after it took off.
What symptoms?
JFC... another passive/aggressive KAREN...
"The plane landed so softly the pilots actually had a light on the panel that told them when the wheels touched down."
That doesn't make sense. Any plane lands as hard or as softly as the pilot puts it onto the ground. Many planes have a weight-on-wheels sensor which, for example, prevents deployment of reverse thrust while in flight. Probably the maker of the documentary misunderstood this.
@@beeble2003 No, wing aspect ratio and wing loading are major factors in how smoothly an aircraft lands. Basically when an aircraft has a lot of excess lift available, lift tends to bleed off slower, and the pilot has better trajectory control of the aircraft during the landing maneuver and therefore can land softly.
I was wondering just that, how practical she would have been for regular commercial air travel. But as a luxury liner she must have been super comfortable.
I wonder many for built, which airlines flew her and for how long.
I saw it flying over the Craigantlet hills near Belfast. I would have been 4 at the time. From our house across the valley from Stormont it was just a line in the sky as it turned towards us, but I could see the nacelles on its wings. That's all the memory I have, just that dark line with the lumps on it, but anything I see or read of it is still thrilling. Long ago now.
Unfortunately it was out of date before it even flew. Jet propulsion was the future.
It could have made as a transport aircraft, with a few small-ish mods.
I'm thinking with the Brabazon it was too much of a leap forward in aircraft size. Boeing developed airliners but not too big, eventually achieved the 747 when engine technology, the high bypass, and other technologies. But wait Britain did put in service the Comet first commercial jet liner. Unfortunately learned lessons of structural design the tragic way. However, it seems that aircraft like the Brabazon and the Vickers all had embedded engines which limit improving the overall design. 737 and Airbus with engines mounted below wings can accomondate new high bypass engines.
@@wrightmf Regarding Comet - Round cornered windows vs squared, so obvious in hindsight..
@@brettv8 Unfortunately the "square window" story is a myth. The error was a late decision not to use bonded windows but to rivet the window frames in. The airframe was not strong enough to cope with having hundreds of holes drilled in it, and that started the cracks that led to an explosive decompression. The Comet 4 had round windows because it had to be seen to be different from the Comet 1.
I thought the Boeing Stratocruiser was a comparable aircraft, much more successful than the Brab, and that was piston powered.
My grandmother was in the Red cross at the time the Brabazon was due to appear at a local air show. She and a considerable number of other medical personal were held on standby at a nearby location in readiness for what was considered a possible disaster situation in the event of the aircraft failing in flight. I believe we have her notes on the deployment in her Red Cross log book.
Wheres is your grandmother in the moment dear ??
@@manoelwanderleyguimaraes9747 Sorry to report that she is no longer with us......but I clearly remember her talking about the Brabazon.
@@missiontent111 Okay mate.
@@manoelwanderleyguimaraes9747
You sound offended LOL
@@SMGJohn i can't hear him
That nose gear took a pounding.
You can see some of the same aesthetics in the Comet. What a lovely design.
I think this is a more attractive design than the comet- the comet’s square vertical stabilizer didn’t match the rest of its curvy aesthetic.
I have a great respect for the engineers who designed these aircrafts without a computer.
They used sliderules - cheaper and quicker.
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Love the sound of those contra-props
No NJ
It doesn't take off, the earth just backs away....
School kids sitting on a roof enjoying the event, can you imagine the headlines today .
Near tragedy , as children put the lives at risk at air display , parents arrested for neglect.
It has a Jules Verne look about it. It's the window placements and the streamlined shiny hull. Beautiful.
This plane had maximum take off weight of 131 tons, whereas Boeing 747 had 300 tons when she made her maiden flight in 1969.
Bristol Brabazon was very much a plane of the early 40s, and came too late to do anything, the age of jet was coming, to put things into perspective, Soviet Tupolev Tu-95 from 1952 had almost 200 ton capable take off weight, and was a turbo prop design as well, Bristol Brabazon never stood a chance.
The B36 went into service a year before this video had a loaded weight of over 200 tons, but was superseded by the B52. Lightly loaded, it could fly high enough that MiGs could not reach them during the Korean War.
Indeed.
Brabazon was obsolete before she was built. Lockheed Constellation was already in airline service for fours years. Surely, the committee could see this??
Sound is reminiscent of the B-36 which had six contrarotating props.
Living in Bath at the time I was lucky enought to see this big beast on many occasions
Teknologi yang canggih pada masa itu.
Suara teriakan anak-anak penuh kegembiraan ketika menyaksikan atraksi pesawat terbang.
And then they made the SR-71 15 years later
Stunning and amazing aircraft. Great history here.
I love the shape of airliners from that era, very similar to the Constellation. Note how Bristol engineers used round windows, but De Havilland screwed up the otherwise much more advanced Comet by using square ones!!! The Comet's first flight was 2 months before the brabazon, but once the windows were fixed, lasted many decades.
Inventions at its best. Engineers did great at that time. All need to appreciate that.
It makes me sad that so many of these great planes became obsolete just as they test flew the prototype.
The British had at one time ruled the seas but suffered so many setbacks in aviation. Like this Barbazon, only one was built because nobody wanted it. The Comet, Concorde, VC-10 and Trident were commercial failures because of the competition from Boeing and Douglas (besides the Concorde, Boeing was smart and bailed from its SST pgm). Not a single country in Western Europe aside from the UK bought the British made jets but instead went with the American.
The Spruce Goose also!
@@austindarrenor You know there must have been good reasons for that. fuel use, size, costs, the same things that people make decisions about today, perhaps politics, government and private.
@@peterpiper482 Imagine the spikiness of that guy, likely a big turn off.
@@scottdowney4318 True enough. And the 707 was just an incredibly well made airplane put thru every test under the sun. Also I believe that the demands put on Vickers and Hawker Siddely by BOAC and BEA made their jets unattractive to foreign airlines. And the fast American built Convair Coronado suffered its terrible demise for its fuel consumption just to get there ten minutes earlier.
Squadron Leader Jim Murray RNZAF flew the Brabazon once on Aug 25 1951 with W Gibb, R Ellison amd J Howman. Filton -Belfast return 4.50hrs.
Jim was at Filton test flying the new Bristol Freighters for the RNZAF and had the amazing opportunity to fly the largest aircraft in the world.
Jim was a 43 op Bomber Command veteran taking part in the Tirpitz raids in Norway in 1942, the 1000 bomber raids and many ops to Tobruk and Al Alamein flying Halifaxes for 10 Sqn.
A British spruce goose, one only but this thing actually flew
The spruce goose flew too, but only once!
To have such technology in 1949, was genius.
Stimmt.
A bit old fashioned though by that time and a dead end.
She was obsolete before she even flew. Technology was moving at an incredible pace in those days.
@@sirmalus5153 Thanks KAREN...
@@johnmunro4952 Thanks KAREN...
Beautiful bird, beautiful take-off, beautiful landing.
And one beautiful sound!
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of this aircraft, and I thought I knew them all. What a Goliath and the sounds of the engines! Amazing.
Same here.
there was no mention of the aircrafts unusual engine setup, 8 engines for 4 props, another forgotten giant is the Short Belfast turboprop of which only 10 were made for the RAF.
I have to wonder how many aircraft we may never hear of.
Its A Psycholigical fact , if a Person Think He Know All Infact They Know Nothing , Im Criticise Anyone , i Read This.
@@georgebarnes8163 No, it had 8 props. 4 clockwise, 4 counter-clockwise - each with its own engine. You can see them at the beginning of the video.
Thanks for the video!
A "sleek beast"! Love the sound of those engines
That fuselage is very reminiscent of the Lockheed Constellation’s fuselage.
What a sight that must have been 😳
The Brabazon was using a 4-engine, 3-blade 'contra-rotating propeller' which though noisy, enhanced air intake, produced more power but with fuel efficiency. The US and British aircraft engineers never mastered the problems with the rotary shaft systems. The Russians however overcame that with 4-blades and produced the legendary Tupolev TU-95 'Bear', a huge, long range, swept-back wings, turboprop strategic bomber aircraft in 1952. It is still being used (after many upgrades) by the Russian Air Force even after 70 years !
Eight engine's look it up if you don't believe me
The US never tried to produce a counter rotating prop engine for airline use so there was no reason to master the engine.
The Russians had captured German engineers for the contraprop engines dev ,without them the tu95 would not have flown
The tu95 geared hunbs are so noisy they can be detected by submarines.
Clearly there were 8 engines as could be seen by the start up of a set of engines and the 8 air intakes per wing. Don't really have to look things up just have to observe. Sad that the aircraft was not saved. Lots of man hours painstakingly spent in producing it. Sad when it was destroyed. Much the same as the Avro Arrow in Canada. Easier to tear something apart than to put it together.
First amazing airplane🤩
the great british empire. modernised the whole world.
After its second flight, they found structural cracks that meant the wings would gave dropped off if she went up again; the whole project had to be scrapped.
Interesting looking plane I knew nothing about. Thank you.
A excellent job of handling something that was in full stall. As stated it should have been doing 250 , at 160 it's amazing how in the video you can see him correcting with the stall condition he could feel... Applause!!
Looked under powered. ROC after take off low, nose pitched down soon after take off to gain airspeed it seems. Remember, this was an unloaded aircraft.
Remember, it was it's first test flight.
It was a time when we were proud to be British. Of course I still am.
And British aviation lived happily ever after and dominated commercial aircraft building.
Now if they put Ghost jets in it it would have definitely been a game changer in commercial aviation.
Today is the first time I’ve ever heard of the Brabazon. The only thing I know about it is what I listened to in this video.
Nevertheless I have three comments about the Barbazon:
1. It should have been built with jet engines and not reciprocating engines.
2. I’m guessing here, but with its power to weight ratio I’ll bet it was extremely under powered.
3. It was a very sleek and beautiful aircraft. For that the designers should take a big bow.
To be successful, the Brabazon needed to be able to pack in passengers, not like the cattle class of today, but sufficient to achieve satisfactory costs per seat mile, and to have the range to enable it to operate on long-distance sectors, and performance to enable it to achieve satisfactory turnarounds. It is doubtful if the jet engines of the time could have helped, as they had a voracious appetite for fuel.
Yes, it was totally underpowered and that was a major reason for its failure. So the Lockheed Super Constellation became the "Queen of the Skies" of the 1950ies.
@@NicolaW72 Then the Comet came along to be "Queen of the Skies" until it kept falling out of those very same skies. Oh well...
@@olsmokey The Comet was therefore never the "Queen of the Skies".
What a nice job reprinting this ancient 35mm film. Generally with a piece of footage this old, you get a one-light 16mm print with glaring bromide streaks, never mind dirt, splices, and scratches. Even the sound, albeit of course limited, is clear.
Nonsense.
@@narabdela yeah - ancient? - c'mon man
Beyond under powered...
this guy knew how to land an plane.. ! // climb out did scare me quite a bit // don't even think about a take-off in hhh-conditions !!
Fantastic airplane!
Aeroplane*
@@tomsharpe2251 Lentokone
Dreadful piece of garbage!! Underperforming,underpowered,sloppy construction
@@Erkele karl pilkington
Only made a few flights before structural cracks manifested in wings. Hardy a great plane
I'd forgotten about this one...badass aircraft. Although this audio sounds like a V-1 "Buzz Bomb."
Wow, never knew about wonderful aircraft
It was obsolete before it even flew, this was the dawn of the jet age.
This was a beautiful piece of art.
This aircraft (G-AGWP) was the only Brabazon ever built - it was a sensation at its time but unfortunately economically totally unsuccesful. Instead of the Brabazon the Lockheed Super Constellation became the "Queen of the Skies" in the 1950ies. The Bristol Britannia as successor of the Brabazon became years later a little bit more succesful with 85 sold copies.
This is the first aeroplane which was made by our engineers on the basis of my research with the excellent remarks.
What a sight that must have been. To actually be there and see it.
Truly awesome plane which is way ahead of its time. A flying luxury cruise ship. .
I think it was more likely significantly out of date by the time it took to the air. If it was intended to steal passengers from cruise ships that bird had already flown and flown again by 1949.
well it was when it was thought of but b4 it was a prototype it was all ready too old and anyone can see it was way underpowered just from the rollout and take off and on top of that as it was test flight so im guessing the fuel would have very lite load and only a few on board no bags
That's absolutely amazing that that Behemoth got off the ground in a little over 1500 ft! Runways today are over a mile long, This Plane would have had no problem! A little before my time though. That's a great pilot in that plane. Getting up is one thing getting safely down is another!!
Great footage. Nice view of the past.
They had to destroy an entire village to lengthen the runway!
Yes, I remember that being a Bristolian living in Lawrence Weston at the time, very close to Filton. I remember being told that the Brabazon took off in less space than first calculated making the demolition of the village unnecessary - can anyone confirm that?
This lemon was obsolete before it even left the ground.
What a shame we don't have the aviation or car industry we used to.
And why is that?
Wingspan of Waterloo Bridge? Holy cow.
Either Waterloo bridge is smaller than I thought or that’s got to be a slight exaggeration…I mean that’s huge 😢
My father was born in that year. God those planes were slow :D
It´s crazy how slow the takeoff speed looks like.
Great video, what a huge plane!
How proud they all might have been then
Marvellous
Watching this video wow what a feeling 🥰
At 130 tons, it's almost twice as heavy as a fully-loaded B29 Superfortress!!
To me it sounds kind of like a B-36 Peacemaker bomber or maybe a TU-95. That powerful drone sound is MUCH stronger than a B-29. If only the Brits made this magnificent giant profitable, alas prop airliners in general would be obsolete within ten years of this test flight.
Bravo for Efforts of scientists and technology revolution.
Why have I never heard of this magisterial plane? 🇺🇸💛🇬🇧
Because it never flew commercially
What a monster of an aeroplane
It was scrapped in 1953. Think of all the hopes and work and dreams that went into it.
Plus the twelve million quid from the British taxpayers.
It's empty weight was only 73 tons. Impressive at the time but today's largest planes are heavier.
Never flown commercially. Ahead of its time since it provided for luxury accomodations we see on some airlines today in which each passenger has their own personal space - the equivalent of a very small office/bedroom.
Amazingly amazing!!
Very sad , Britian had the manufacturing ability , it just needed the correct design , it turned out to be the Boeing 707 , but funnily enough the prop driven Lockheed Constellation was a sales success till 1958 .
I believe because the range was still very good
The Constellation was a superior plane in every aspect: capacity, speed, and performance. As elegant as the Brabazon was, it was a white elephant doomed from the start.
Well, it sort-of had the correct design with the de- Havilland DH-106 'Comet' - which also flew in 1949.
@@alecfoster5542 Constellation is half the size of the Brazen, half it's length to start.
The Bristol Britannia did OK.
That touchdown of the nose wheel lol pilots probably bounced up in their seats.
"especially built 1.5 mile runway". For those days, that was huge. Nowadays 2 mile+ runways are the norm for any serious airport
With those engines was an amazing flyer
Thanks
My Gawd!! Wort will these megnificent men end their flying machines do next!?
Mustard featured this giant of an airliner on his channel.
It was more like a flying luxury ocean liner than it was a fast and efficient aircraft.
INTERESTING: apparently back in the day, the reporters were not that much into "hearing the machine". It would be a GOLD to listen to this beauty with no voice / music interferences. (now, the other interesting thing , at least for central American and south American, is that any beast with engine in it are called SHE in the USA. I live here in the USA for decades and still NOT able to call cars / motorcycles / planes / tractors as SHE. ) For us (foreigners , she = Barbie & Pink stuffs ).
Thanks scientists and engineers. World changed by Engineers and scientists..
And dont forget the air.
Yess its Aviation technology revolution at that time.
The aviación american leyend. Sorry no hablo bien el ingles saludos desde España spain 😁
Whilst at School Camp at Ogmore By Sea...1949..Brabazon did a flypast...HEADING TOWARDS Bristol...A giant in the sky...
Great film of the mighty Brabazon. I have seen many pictures and have a picture of my father-in-law, an RAF instructor examining the Brabazon for possible purchase by the RAF as a long-range transport. As an Aero engineer, this film shows clearly what is wrong, she is too heavy and underpowered, a classic design by government committee failure. 100mph under design cruise speed, blimey! she looks like about to stall! From the film, the wing design also looks odd, a very high drag straight arrangement, sweep it back guys! There were many such aero design failures in the 1940s. Interesting that many of the successful aero designs were private venture, e.g. the Mosquito, Hurricane, etc.. The engines are actually 8 off, 2 coupled together to one contra prop, a fatigue nightmare. Germany tried this on the Heinkel 177 and failed. Brabazon needed jet engines, probably 6 at that weight and at that time. The problem is that after the war the country was broken in many ways including financially, and such projects were bankrupting the UK aviation industry. DH with the comet got it right in design performance, though had to learn about airframe pressurization and fatigue, though the fatal crashes were well below the airframe fatigue flight cycles...that is another story. Only the Brabazon hanger survives today and only just. I think all of us and the Nation wanted Brabazon to be a winner, and that is what makes me sad, though she does look magnificent.