Ericka completely avoided answering Diana’s question about compassion for the victims because she has none. I wish they would stop tryin to force this demon into lying about having human emotions. She has none lol
@@allin3940 👆 and Tom, the lawyers would be incompetent if they didn't tell to keep her mouth shut on a television show.. I get were she's coming from! But she let's her inter-demon come out...
Someone who truly had nothing to hide would not be scared to show empathy for the victims. Erica is still on Tom’s side and thereby against the victims or else Tom will tell what she knew all along…it’s a catch 22 🤷🏽♀️
Kathy is unapologetically herself. she doesn't have to dress in designer labels from head to toe or carry an expensive, overpriced handbag 👜 for approval or to make a statement.
@@Leno323 So does Diana too! Kathy is richer and probably more powerful than her but she seems to think she’s the richest and has the final say when it comes to $$$$.
Typical narcissist. No accountability. Deflect, deflect, deflect " I'm the victim" mentality. And when the courts find her guilty of embezzlement, she'll have a problem with "the law" then also. It never ends..
I can guarantee Ericka gets away with not knowing what her husband was doing. No one not going to tell me Ericka didn't ask her husband to teach her about law. After all she speaks as though she know everything. Money talk and BS walks she has money stashed. I don't think she gave cks to Tom. To put in the account to cash. I guarantee she took her monies out. That why she uses credit cards. I bet she get those ear rings back. I'm sure she join the housewives to get stared on making her own money and needed lawyer advice on how to set up business etc. Hubby can give her all the info for free.
@@rileyoftheweak8310 I agree. We recently found out that one of Tom's lawyer friends in Florida has been sending Erika hundreds of thousands of dollars since this all started. And no one is gonna tell me that's not money that she and Tom didn't stash with him before this all came crumbling down. She's still in good with powerful criminals. She's basically untouchable. Unfortunately.
Idc for Diana like that however she gets my R.E.S.P.E.C.T for not being two faced and saying that Erika can at least show at lil remorse for the victims. I mean people died for crying out loud! The fact that Erika can't even admit to them being victims says a lot about her character or lack thereof should I say lol.
@@ashleyaugust-jones7403 I reeeeeeeaaly more than ever suspect a lot of more dirty secrects from Dorit more than ever now thgat people have over her head... very telling who she cozies up with....
@@richieporter5124 I still don't have respect for Diana because she is two-faced by only saying the respectful things during her confessional, but not telling Erika to her face that she disagrees with her and silently condoning what Erika is saying and doing by offering her a place to stay and hole up in away from the ones that disagree with her. She's sending mixed messages. Diana needs to take a stance for what's right and stand ten toes down in it or keep silent about the whole issue like Sheree.
When even Dorit and Diana are hinting that it's pretty bizarre to not have basic human empathy for people who suffered while you were LITERALLY spending their money... and Erika still refuses to bat an eye... it just 100% solidifies all the judgements people have made about her. This is who she is. There are no misunderstandings.
True. She doesn't care about any of those who were defrauded per her own comments so we all know she didn't care as she spent their money. She knew Tom wasn't making that money legitimately. If he were it would mean he was taking exorbitant fees and that would be disgusting as well.
That scene in the ski store is completely soulless. Dorit the dummy, more concerned with impressing the salesman, Diana who rambles on but says nothing & the queen of all evaders sits there playing put upon. Unbelievable
Right! But I guess if you get away with it, you never change. And it’s obvious now that she is not typically checked for her bad behavior. She’s such a bully. It’s gross.
Erika doesn’t realize that had she been a good person from the start, even if she was bullshitting and pretending to give a shit, no one would be on her this hard. But she has to be Ice Queen Erika, and then wonders why no one is rushing to defend her. She and Marlo from ATL need to compare notes on how they’re perceived because this same old shit is getting tiring.
I wish she had went the f off, like she did Sutton. This she's hearing it straight from Erika. She heard about Sutton from others and missed the assignment. She thinks she's with the it girls and probably will buy their stuff.
She’s waiting for this to play out in the legal system because she will more than likely be protected by the money, connections, and plethora of crooked lawyers she has at her disposal who are sure to find a loophole to clear her name. You can tell her mindset is “they can’t prove what I did or didn’t know, so I’m going to play dumb forever”. She needs to be on Mob wives 😂😂
I don’t think so At this point because everyone involved is being investigated and this is what over period!!! Now that’s more is coming everyone is dotting all i’s and crossing all y’s!!! Erika is a nobody to Toms friends and acquaintances now !!! No I wants to have anything else do with her !!!! She is going down honey!!!! Her vicious attitude and behavior is despicable and folk don’t want to be associated with her TRUST ME!!! Erika is not important to any of Toms friends!!!! When you carry yourself in the manner that Erika has folk don’t want nothing at all to do with her forever now !!!
Kathy is a grown women, she doesn’t need Kyle to keep track of her. Kyle wants to be so important, it’s as if she has this savior complex and the need to say “I always had to help my sisters, I’m the responsible sister”. Spare us Kyle 😒🙄
Kyle has a major complex. That’s why she enables Kim’s addiction while also pretending like she’s the only one helping her. I don’t know if she does it subconsciously but I think she uses keeping family business “private” as an excuse to not face that she’s part of the reason why Kim suffers because it doesn’t go with her sister savior narrative.
I have 7 sisters, we worry and check on each other constantly. I have one sis in particular who is soo sweet and aloof like Kathy- just flowing through life. You absolutely keep a close eye on those you deeply care about. I’d rather be an annoying sister pestering you then crying after some horrible/tragic event saying shoulda coulda woulda. But that’s just me lol. Kathy doesn’t visibly show that’ she’s upset by it so it’s a non issue in my book.
@@ShamsiaK And that’s wonderful that you and your sisters have that amazing relationship. The difference here is, the Richards don’t have that truly close relationship so when Kyle continues to come on tv and paint the picture as they do and then allow others (according to Kim & Kathy) to treat them badly, and criticize everything her sisters do, it comes of cruel and pretentious. How you’re caring for your sisters is not what Kyle is doing here.
@@thetiredfemme3652 ultimately, if Kathy had issues with Kyle she wouldn’t be filming. She doesn’t need the money- so she’s probably doing this strictly for Kyle. Sister relationships are tricky. Kathy is very direct- if she has issues with anything Kyle was doing she would and has spoken up. Plus we all know their mother was horrible and created an abusive home environment. Some turn to substance abuse- Kim, others become aloof and withdrawn- Kathy and some become people pleasers/fixers- Kyle. Just my observations.
Even if she wasn’t married to Tom, Erika wouldn’t have any sympathy or compassion for what happened to anyone other than herself. That tells everyone a lot about Erika Girardi. She is one evil & selfish person.
You’ve only seen their relationship through a TV show. Being with a sister for 50 years creates unique dynamics between people. I can understand Kyle’s frustrations at times.
She treats her like that because she instantly became a fan fave lol and you know Kyle can’t have none of her sisters getting more shine than her on this show
I'm sure the producers tell the ladies to discuss what's going on in the news headlines with case. I'm sure they're over talking about it themselves. But it creates the drama they want and need for the show.
I have 3 sisters and I would never play my sister in front of my friends. Kyle keeps drawing attention to everything Kathy does so everyone can laugh at her. Kyle is so middle school.
@@clarity2974 I don't see Kathy as being needy at all. She is aware she lives an extremely privileged lifestyle. Why she doesn't need to flaunt it. The cookout scene for example...if I was at my brother's or sisters home to have dinner, I would want to know where are the serving utensils napkins butter..Would expect same from them if I were hosting them & hadn't made these items available. Is why my wife does all the utensils plates napkins and such a few hours prior to eating and has salt pepper and butter already sit out at other end of island in preparation for dinner. Kathy wasn't needy, she just wanted to eat...lol
@@kennethholland3813 she is use to being catered to so instead of getting up and getting her utensils like everyone else she's asking for it. I love it. It's cute and not her fault but yes she's needy.
Exactly. They would be woefully obtuse if they didn’t and will share in the hypocrisy and shamelessness that is some of these housewives. Excusing and supporting bad behavior. It will say a lot about the network.
Im so sick of Dorit. I dont even think she knows what she thinks or how she feels . She is so used to seeking approval from the other I dont think she even knows who she is truly is. At least Diana spoke up on the side of right! Dorito chile, time to exit and take that fake accent and robbery storyline with you .
I don't know about that. I consider myself a tough chick, but Erika actually SCARES me. When she bares her teeth and literally SNARLS at people, she reminds me of a wild animal about to rip out someone's throat!
Dorit needs to stop excusing and defending Erika. It doesn't look well, especially for her and PK. Kyle is wrong for treating Kathy ike a feeble minded dim-wit. Instances like these further fuel the rumor that she has no loyalty to family.
Damn! It’s bad when even Diana thinks Erika is acting badly. That’s when you know something is wrong! A true friend will tell you when you are wrong, even when you don’t want to hear it. I think Erika is used to a lot of “yes men.”
Erika is delusional she can’t handle when someone ask questions, but she has been bullied, mocked and been super rude to Sutton , Garcelle and Crystal Erika is a toxic arrogant woman. I think is better for the other woman to avoid to be near her . And is Fanny to see her face at this scene screens arrogance. Who what’s to have a friend that toxic ?! Bye girl !
They are still arguing about the same things. I haven't missed anything new this season. Erika is not going to give these ladies what they to hear. Just leave it be . You can't get someone to say something they don't truly feel or want to admit. Just leave her alone.
I think this season we did get what we wanted to see & hear from Erika. Last year she played victim of circumstance. I'm glad the issue was brought up again for all to be clear about her true feelings and nature in not giving a sh*t about the victims but only caring about herself. Straight out of the horse's own mouth! This admission this season has definately changed the dynamics of a few of her relationships. When she is gone, we will stop talking about it, Alicia.
If Diana held herself accountable as much as she does Erikkka in this moment she would ACTUALLY be likable. I’m so ready for those two to be replaced. And Lisa and Kyle can follow behind them. Bring in some new blood!
Especially Lisa. I lost my mother months after losing my husband, but I don't use it as an excuse to treat people badly! Her mom was 93, mine was only 72. It's not like she thought she'd live forever.
This show is not fun any longer and I'm surprised that Bravo doesn't recognize that fans are angry, they are so tone deaf. I guess it's their show and when people stop watching this train wreck, they'll end up like RHONY. We all have enough toxicity in our own lives , we certainly don't want to watch over privileged toxic women. I don't know why Sutton and Garcelle would ever want to return for another season with these B's. It's been attack Sutton, then attack Garcelle, now they want us to feel sorry for Erika, ha, never and Kyle has been setting the scene for the attacks on Kathy. Bravo, FYI, this is not fun.
It’s so annoying how Kyle is always putting her sister down and making fun of her belittling her I wouldn’t be around my sister if she did that to me let alone on national television it’s rude and disrespectful and like I said belittling who does she think she is better than her sister well she’s not and that makes her way uglier
Up until this point, when it comes to Erika & her narcissistic antics with EXCEPTION to Sutton & Garcelle, & esp for Kyle COMMON SENSE IS NOT SO COMMON! These women has sit back & watched Erika show the world how vicious & vile she truly is & make excuses for it. When Kyle saw Garcelle stand up to Erika & Erika didn’t get vicious with her, all of a sudden Kyle now has a backbone! Erika is use to bullying her way through life! I’ve always been a huge fan of Kyle but last season & esp this season I’m also seeing her in a much different way! She should be ashamed of the way she treats Sutton & esp her sister Kathy!
Just the fact alone that Bravo keeps her on the show, when she calls the victims liars, files appeals to keep earrings directly kinked to stolen money, is unfathomable & awful. The temporary ratings they are reaping, will have a long-term effect in terms of how ppl view the show & the network. The viewers are truly shocked. I see the comments everywhere. People have lost any respect for Evolution Media, Bravo, NBC Universal, and for Andy, who's always defending her.
Letting this “play out” is code for I’ve got time and money, which the victims do no have. She is diminishing the eventual settlement amount they will receive, with no care for how they are actually able to survive day to day. Her Rich friends are allowing Erika access to the good life and they should stop doing that, so she realizes no one will accept her cruelty toward the victims of Tom Giradi! She was the main beneficiary of his crimes, she and his partners. During the Madoff investigation there were people that made a fortune from his crimes then there were the victims. It doesn’t matter if she knew, she directly benefitted!
Erika is obviously told by her lawyers to not talk about the "victims" & to not talk about the case on national tv. She's ended up being cleared of one case against her. She needs support not judgement.
All that seems to come out of Kyle’s mouth about Kathy or these “cutesy” little jabs. And if she’s ever confronted about it, she would just say that she’s “poking fun”- but it’s Every. Single. Time. We. See. Them. Together.
I’m finding Dorit really bizarre these last two episodes. Last season she at least mildly spoke out about the victims but this episode she’s totally flipped. Even Rinna isn’t here defending this nonsense and Diana is questioning her stance. Wtf is Dorit thinking standing by this?
But Diana just asked the same thing that the other ladies asked and Erika didn't go off on her ???? She won't go up against her though. Erika is her own worse enemy
Me to hell no if I have not visited your home I will not eat your food ! Especially if you have cats as well it’s a no for me! I watch folk in the bathroom that walks out without washing their hands so nasty and disgusting!!! Naw I will bring my lunch!
We had a potluck at school and as soon as she plug in her crock pot the roaches came out. The students noticed 1st. Plus if you let your dog in your bed... YOU ARE SLEEPING IN DOG FECES
Diana threw shade at Kyle saying she’s protecting them from herself by not staying at Kyle’s. FF5 would have had an issue if Garcelle or Sutton did that!
Ubelievable how they all ganged up against many women in rhobh who were saints in comparation to this vile human existance called E. and now Kyle, Rinna, Dorit, etc they all backing her up and finding excuses for her... Whats the catch? They are not embarassed even for themselves?
Several thoughts: 1) The way that Kylie picks at her sister has made the other women feel comfortable doing so. And it’s not playful at all. Kathy is so herself, and Kylie is…a try-hard 2) The conflict happening between Erica and Kyle/Diannah/Dorit/Diannah is SO interesting because if Garcelle or Sutton had this same issue, these exact women would say they’re pushing it
I remember a time when Dorit & Erika was at each other's throat now they're best buddies. I don't understand how Dorit can defend Erika's actions. But I guest this a new story line.
Erika “That’s not friends. I don’t want to do it.” OKAY GREAT DONT COME BACK NEXT SEASON BYE!! Oh wait. U need the little check to pay for ur legal bills 🤣
Altho we know Bravo can't or won't make it happen, Kathy needs to take Kyle's place to give this show some Class. In fact I wld start with keeping Kathy, Sutton and Garcelle and be rid of everyone else.
A lot of people aren’t seeing where Erika is coming from. Every word she says can be used against her. So I get where she’s coming from. She can’t say she feels sorry for someone or people that are saying she took something from them.
I know everyone is jumping on in Erika and rightfully so… but why is Kyle feeling like every conversation has to have her in it and if she doesn’t know what’s happening she will start it just to be apart of it?
Erika’s fuming not only because these women keep asking questions, but because they increasingly expect the answers to make SOME kind of sense 🥴 she’s used to hearing something she doesn’t like (even if it’s true), piercing through a person with those soulless eyes of hers, dropping an f-bomb and making them shrink away. That’s no longer working so they’re not her “real friends” anymore lol
I’ll say this. I understand Erika’s reasonings. She feels like if she says she feels bad the media will make it seem like SHE is guilty and feels bad. And the only person’s opinion who matters to her at this point is the one who can dead the ENTIRE situation. Which is the Judge. None of the women really have her back.
Allllll of thissss! Honestly, they treat her like she was the lawyer and she stole the money. They’re trying to make her obligated to feel bad for someone else’s situation, when she is going through her own situation. & if they don’t like her stance, why not remove her from their circle? Instead, they continue to ask her questions, then call her evil when she responds to them. 🙄
@@keran3709 I think they hold her to a high Standard because she’s had this Tough persona for so long. That persona is unfortunately working against her. I don’t like the way she treats people BUT I don’t think she is the Bad guy as they are saying in terms of the legal shit. The real bad guy is that one sitting across from her. Diana.
@@Bataowata I totally agree. I also think it’s bc they are not asking her to be sincere. They want her to implicate her self, and she’s refusing to do it.
@@awkwardsanchez6231 true, but the keyword you used was “can.” I think the point everyone is missing is, she doesn’t have to nor is she obligated to. Therefore, they shouldn’t expect it based on personal opinion. 🤷🏽♀️
Erika’s “court of law” BS is pathetic! Tom won huge client settlements + clients never received a dime = Erika’s lifestyle was paid for by victims money! It’s not complicated!
I notice that whenever Erika tries to “explain” herself, whenever she starts to get caught up or stumbles on her wording, she deflects by going into this whole “see, that’s why I can’t talk about this cause there’s just so much!” or “see, now I’m getting emotional about this cause it’s so stressful!” She gets frustrated because she can’t keep her lies straight. I see right through it.
In T Tucker voice. E Jayne was living with her hubby & she had no idea what was going on? Cmon she's a smart woman. That babytalk is an act too. If you watch the show & in interviews her voice changes.
Ericka completely avoided answering Diana’s question about compassion for the victims because she has none. I wish they would stop tryin to force this demon into lying about having human emotions. She has none lol
She’s evil and cold. All she cares about is money. I can’t stand her anymore she are used to be one of my favorites.
Yea missed opportunity for her to show compassion. Maybe her lawyers advised her not to
@@allin3940 👆 and Tom, the lawyers would be incompetent if they didn't tell to keep her mouth shut on a television show.. I get were she's coming from! But she let's her inter-demon come out...
Someone who truly had nothing to hide would not be scared to show empathy for the victims. Erica is still on Tom’s side and thereby against the victims or else Tom will tell what she knew all along…it’s a catch 22 🤷🏽♀️
@@allin3940 please she just don't care.
Kathy is unapologetically herself. she doesn't have to dress in designer labels from head to toe or carry an expensive, overpriced handbag 👜 for approval or to make a statement.
And I LOVE IT!!!! All the other ladies flaunt their money to some degree. Not Kathy she comes how she wants. I love her!!!
Well you know what they say. Some money is quiet- some money is loud. Kathy is quiet. Kyle needs to be seen.
@@Leno323 So does Diana too! Kathy is richer and probably more powerful than her but she seems to think she’s the richest and has the final say when it comes to $$$$.
And this plus her being a fan favorite drives Rinna nuts. Especially after her relentless campaign on social media to make the viewers hate Kathy 😄
Yooo this comment is exactly the words I couldn’t find !
Erika is an immature child. Always acting tough but can't handle when her friends are actually honest with her.
Most of the women on the show are immature. Garcelle and Sutton are the only ones acting like adults.
Typical narcissist. No accountability. Deflect, deflect, deflect " I'm the victim" mentality. And when the courts find her guilty of embezzlement, she'll have a problem with "the law" then also. It never ends..
@@deloresrodriguez7726 Sutton?
I can guarantee Ericka gets away with not knowing what her husband was doing. No one not going to tell me Ericka didn't ask her husband to teach her about law. After all she speaks as though she know everything. Money talk and BS walks she has money stashed. I don't think she gave cks to Tom. To put in the account to cash. I guarantee she took her monies out. That why she uses credit cards. I bet she get those ear rings back. I'm sure she join the housewives to get stared on making her own money and needed lawyer advice on how to set up business etc. Hubby can give her all the info for free.
@@rileyoftheweak8310 I agree. We recently found out that one of Tom's lawyer friends in Florida has been sending Erika hundreds of thousands of dollars since this all started. And no one is gonna tell me that's not money that she and Tom didn't stash with him before this all came crumbling down. She's still in good with powerful criminals. She's basically untouchable. Unfortunately.
Lol even diana is like Jesus christ Erica show some empathy. Now that's sad.
I was actually going to comment on that. Hats off to Diana being normal for once, and saying it too.
Meanwhile, Dorit continues to makes excuses for Erika
Idc for Diana like that however she gets my R.E.S.P.E.C.T for not being two faced and saying that Erika can at least show at lil remorse for the victims. I mean people died for crying out loud!
The fact that Erika can't even admit to them being victims says a lot about her character or lack thereof should I say lol.
@@ashleyaugust-jones7403 I reeeeeeeaaly more than ever suspect a lot of more dirty secrects from Dorit more than ever now thgat people have over her head... very telling who she cozies up with....
@@richieporter5124 I still don't have respect for Diana because she is two-faced by only saying the respectful things during her confessional, but not telling Erika to her face that she disagrees with her and silently condoning what Erika is saying and doing by offering her a place to stay and hole up in away from the ones that disagree with her. She's sending mixed messages. Diana needs to take a stance for what's right and stand ten toes down in it or keep silent about the whole issue like Sheree.
SEE...Diana STILL tried to give Erika a chance to show remorse...and AGAIN she refused!! SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY REMORSE FOR THE VICTIMS...PERIOD!! SMH
This is exactly why they should stop asking her then!! They need to move on. Erica isn't giving them anything .
You mean "ALLEGED" victims, in her opinion.
What happened?
@@paulawynn9779 yeah.."alleged"...smh
Erika have really been showing her true colors since last years she is really a cold person
She has been like this since the beginning. Always been a shitheel
pk hit it on the head when he said she was inherenity cold
Erika can dish it but can’t take it.
Erika is used to “friends” that come with an invoice. She cannot handle the reality of friends who come with an opinion.
*She really is a disgusting, mean spirited, self obsessed woman 😤.* On another note, hope you're doing well Ms. Tracy 😁
So true! Nailed it!
@@crencottrell7849I hope you are doing well too! 🎉😊🎉
So true! Love how you stated this!
Oh, I like that! You are 100% correct.
When even Dorit and Diana are hinting that it's pretty bizarre to not have basic human empathy for people who suffered while you were LITERALLY spending their money... and Erika still refuses to bat an eye... it just 100% solidifies all the judgements people have made about her. This is who she is. There are no misunderstandings.
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Erica doesnt seem to understand, she was the beneficiary of the fraud. Having empathy towards the actual victims does not imply guilt
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True. She doesn't care about any of those who were defrauded per her own comments so we all know she didn't care as she spent their money. She knew Tom wasn't making that money legitimately. If he were it would mean he was taking exorbitant fees and that would be disgusting as well.
Kathy is the perfect example of "Money talks... wealth whispers"
Gotdam I like that!!!! Well said!!! I’m going to get a T SHIRT with this on it
Dorinda, spoke those words to Sonja, on Real housewives of New York
Yeah sure; that mausoleum that the Hiltons live in (with a staff of 10) really "whispers".
Money doesn't talk, it swears ;)
@@snarkyenigma9219 you don’t the understand the meaning
That scene in the ski store is completely soulless. Dorit the dummy, more concerned with impressing the salesman, Diana who rambles on but says nothing & the queen of all evaders sits there playing put upon. Unbelievable
@wynn1587 Very true
Ericka wants the audience to believe she’s a victim…. When in actuality she is the ultimate villain.
predictable textbook narcissist 🙄🤢🤣😂
She's no victim.
And we see it!
So true. I can’t believe she’s so vile all out in the open. No shame whatsoever.
Right! But I guess if you get away with it, you never change. And it’s obvious now that she is not typically checked for her bad behavior. She’s such a bully. It’s gross.
Erika has the emotional intelligence of a toddler.
My toddler is far more advance.
Let's face it, Dorit Kemsley doesn't give a sh*t about the Girardi crime victims either.
Let’s face it none of them do.
True. She just wants to be friends with Erica.
@@Itsallaboutus22 dorit is mad purses were stolen...
@@galaxys6071 yep. And about everyone laughing at the toothless and homeless organization which her and hubby get free teeth out of the deal ..smh
Erika doesn’t realize that had she been a good person from the start, even if she was bullshitting and pretending to give a shit, no one would be on her this hard. But she has to be Ice Queen Erika, and then wonders why no one is rushing to defend her. She and Marlo from ATL need to compare notes on how they’re perceived because this same old shit is getting tiring.
So true!
“You’re inherently cold”
I’m glad Diana questioned Erika. It was one of the few moments she was like able and felt real.
I wish she had went the f off, like she did Sutton. This she's hearing it straight from Erika. She heard about Sutton from others and missed the assignment. She thinks she's with the it girls and probably will buy their stuff.
She’s waiting for this to play out in the legal system because she will more than likely be protected by the money, connections, and plethora of crooked lawyers she has at her disposal who are sure to find a loophole to clear her name. You can tell her mindset is “they can’t prove what I did or didn’t know, so I’m going to play dumb forever”. She needs to be on Mob wives 😂😂
She wouldn’t last there. Lol
Well stated @Cece McAllister
Mob wife, well she Tom's wife whom she talks to everyday. She knows what she's doing!
@@denieraadams4924 She sure wouldn’t. Erika plays tough, but she won’t dare talk to Drita and Renee like that.
I don’t think so At this point because everyone involved is being investigated and this is what over period!!! Now that’s more is coming everyone is dotting all i’s and crossing all y’s!!! Erika is a nobody to Toms friends and acquaintances now !!! No I wants to have anything else do with her !!!! She is going down honey!!!! Her vicious attitude and behavior is despicable and folk don’t want to be associated with her TRUST ME!!! Erika is not important to any of Toms friends!!!! When you carry yourself in the manner that Erika has folk don’t want nothing at all to do with her forever now !!!
Kathy is a grown women, she doesn’t need Kyle to keep track of her. Kyle wants to be so important, it’s as if she has this savior complex and the need to say “I always had to help my sisters, I’m the responsible sister”. Spare us Kyle 😒🙄
Kyle has a major complex. That’s why she enables Kim’s addiction while also pretending like she’s the only one helping her. I don’t know if she does it subconsciously but I think she uses keeping family business “private” as an excuse to not face that she’s part of the reason why Kim suffers because it doesn’t go with her sister savior narrative.
I have 7 sisters, we worry and check on each other constantly. I have one sis in particular who is soo sweet and aloof like Kathy- just flowing through life. You absolutely keep a close eye on those you deeply care about. I’d rather be an annoying sister pestering you then crying after some horrible/tragic event saying shoulda coulda woulda. But that’s just me lol. Kathy doesn’t visibly show that’ she’s upset by it so it’s a non issue in my book.
@@ShamsiaK And that’s wonderful that you and your sisters have that amazing relationship. The difference here is, the Richards don’t have that truly close relationship so when Kyle continues to come on tv and paint the picture as they do and then allow others (according to Kim & Kathy) to treat them badly, and criticize everything her sisters do, it comes of cruel and pretentious. How you’re caring for your sisters is not what Kyle is doing here.
@@thetiredfemme3652 ultimately, if Kathy had issues with Kyle she wouldn’t be filming. She doesn’t need the money- so she’s probably doing this strictly for Kyle. Sister relationships are tricky. Kathy is very direct- if she has issues with anything Kyle was doing she would and has spoken up.
Plus we all know their mother was horrible and created an abusive home environment. Some turn to substance abuse- Kim, others become aloof and withdrawn- Kathy and some become people pleasers/fixers- Kyle. Just my observations.
Kyle always made out their mother was worried about kim and she was perfect. Maybe she did because she threw her into a disgusting industry
Even if she wasn’t married to Tom, Erika wouldn’t have any sympathy or compassion for what happened to anyone other than herself. That tells everyone a lot about Erika Girardi. She is one evil & selfish person.
I can’t stand how mean Kyle is to Kathy. She treats her like an unwanted dog. Poor thing!
You’ve only seen their relationship through a TV show. Being with a sister for 50 years creates unique dynamics between people. I can understand Kyle’s frustrations at times.
Exactly! If she treats her sister this way on TV, for sure off screen is not much better.
Kathy treats her the same way!
She treats her like that because she instantly became a fan fave lol and you know Kyle can’t have none of her sisters getting more shine than her on this show
Jealous that's what Kyle is
Dorit Is A Straddler
Is that Diana inside of a clothing STORE???... what about her allergies?
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Her allergies clear up when she isn't playing prima Donna part for the cameras...
She sent her crew to clean it. 🧼
*Erika tell everyone exactly who she is multiple times over multiple days*
These dummies grasping to storylines: "Gosh I hope she doesn't mean it!"
I'm sure the producers tell the ladies to discuss what's going on in the news headlines with case. I'm sure they're over talking about it themselves. But it creates the drama they want and need for the show.
Erika Is The Real Life Cruella
Even Cruella is too nice
Her laugh is even sounds like a villain.
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@@anitamead5268 You Are So Right 😂🤣
@@JaaquanSanDiego 🤣😂 Right
If I have to hear dorit say “SO CHIC” in that fake accent one more d*mn time … I’m going scream 😩
Sutton's coat is giving me everything I need and more. I need the Shein verison LOL
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Right! 😂
It’s giving Lisa frank in the best way 🤌🏼
I love it! But it swallowed her up
I actually love the friendship of garcelle Sutton and crystal
Love Kathy Garcelle and Sutton!!!! The mean girls can go for real.
I have 3 sisters and I would never play my sister in front of my friends. Kyle keeps drawing attention to everything Kathy does so everyone can laugh at her. Kyle is so middle school.
I think she’s jealous of Kathy. She’s a hater.
Katy's cute but needy to it's annoying to Kyle which is a normal sister dynamic
She does this all the time because she’s jealous of them and doesn’t want anyone to like them …I can’t stand her
@@clarity2974 I don't see Kathy as being needy at all. She is aware she lives an extremely privileged lifestyle. Why she doesn't need to flaunt it. The cookout scene for example...if I was at my brother's or sisters home to have dinner, I would want to know where are the serving utensils napkins butter..Would expect same from them if I were hosting them & hadn't made these items available. Is why my wife does all the utensils plates napkins and such a few hours prior to eating and has salt pepper and butter already sit out at other end of island in preparation for dinner. Kathy wasn't needy, she just wanted to eat...lol
@@kennethholland3813 she is use to being catered to so instead of getting up and getting her utensils like everyone else she's asking for it. I love it. It's cute and not her fault but yes she's needy.
I like Garcelle and Sutton. If only Crystal can be just as badass, the three would be dynamic.
I've pretty much given up on Crystal!
Crystal is a hypocrite
Crystal cares so much about people opinion about her
I can’t pay to find out Crystal’s stance. She says one thing in person, another in confessionals and another in the post show interview
Idk why anyone expects Erika to care, she’s always be cruel. We can go back many seasons and watch her tear apart Eileen till she was sobbing
Ugh Eileen did not deserve that. 😔
If bravo DOESNT address these problems at the reunion , they can keep it
Exactly. They would be woefully obtuse if they didn’t and will share in the hypocrisy and shamelessness that is some of these housewives. Excusing and supporting bad behavior. It will say a lot about the network.
Ikr …I’ve literally stopped watching them already. I just want to see how this plays out to make my final decision
Andy never holds Ericka's feet to the fire. Last reunion he handled her with kid gloves. Time for a new host
Im so sick of Dorit. I dont even think she knows what she thinks or how she feels . She is so used to seeking approval from the other I dont think she even knows who she is truly is. At least Diana spoke up on the side of right! Dorito chile, time to exit and take that fake accent and robbery storyline with you .
Lol!
damn diana said something i agree with ?! this episode is insane already
I love Kathy she’s so simple and down to Earth.
I truly watch for Sutton. Love that woman! I like Garcelle too. 👍 Erika is not tough. The tough never try so hard to be.
Exactly!
I don't know about that. I consider myself a tough chick, but Erika actually SCARES me. When she bares her teeth and literally SNARLS at people, she reminds me of a wild animal about to rip out someone's throat!
THISSSSSS.
Dorit needs to stop excusing and defending Erika. It doesn't look well, especially for her and PK. Kyle is wrong for treating Kathy ike a feeble minded dim-wit. Instances like these further fuel the rumor that she has no loyalty to family.
Preach 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This show has been dark since Lisa and Erika have been on. Please go away.
So She Should Go Home
She won’t! she needs her camera time lol
I'd love to see the clip of her flying commercial....Erica was hoping Diana would say, I'm ready too, you can go with me on a private jet.
Damn! It’s bad when even Diana thinks Erika is acting badly. That’s when you know something is wrong! A true friend will tell you when you are wrong, even when you don’t want to hear it. I think Erika is used to a lot of “yes men.”
Diana in a store?? Will she be ok? Diana for having money dresses terrible.
Erika showing us the true meaning of a snowflake. She melts when it gets hot.
Erika stays playing the victim - while giving zero Fs about the actual victims
Erika is delusional she can’t handle when someone ask questions, but she has been bullied, mocked and been super rude to Sutton , Garcelle and Crystal Erika is a toxic arrogant woman. I think is better for the other woman to avoid to be near her . And is Fanny to see her face at this scene screens arrogance. Who what’s to have a friend that toxic ?! Bye girl !
She’s a “liability “! 😉
They are still arguing about the same things. I haven't missed anything new this season. Erika is not going to give these ladies what they to hear. Just leave it be . You can't get someone to say something they don't truly feel or want to admit. Just leave her alone.
I think this season we did get what we wanted to see & hear from Erika. Last year she played victim of circumstance. I'm glad the issue was brought up again for all to be clear about her true feelings and nature in not giving a sh*t about the victims but only caring about herself. Straight out of the horse's own mouth! This admission this season has definately changed the dynamics of a few of her relationships. When she is gone, we will stop talking about it, Alicia.
If Diana held herself accountable as much as she does Erikkka in this moment she would ACTUALLY be likable. I’m so ready for those two to be replaced. And Lisa and Kyle can follow behind them. Bring in some new blood!
Borrit needs to go too
Especially Lisa. I lost my mother months after losing my husband, but I don't use it as an excuse to treat people badly! Her mom was 93, mine was only 72. It's not like she thought she'd live forever.
This show is not fun any longer and I'm surprised that Bravo doesn't recognize that fans are angry, they are so tone deaf. I guess it's their show and when people stop watching this train wreck, they'll end up like RHONY. We all have enough toxicity in our own lives , we certainly don't want to watch over privileged toxic women. I don't know why Sutton and Garcelle would ever want to return for another season with these B's. It's been attack Sutton, then attack Garcelle, now they want us to feel sorry for Erika, ha, never and Kyle has been setting the scene for the attacks on Kathy. Bravo, FYI, this is not fun.
You’re right.
It’s so annoying how Kyle is always putting her sister down and making fun of her belittling her I wouldn’t be around my sister if she did that to me let alone on national television it’s rude and disrespectful and like I said belittling who does she think she is better than her sister well she’s not and that makes her way uglier
Up until this point, when it comes to Erika & her narcissistic antics with EXCEPTION to Sutton & Garcelle, & esp for Kyle COMMON SENSE IS NOT SO COMMON! These women has sit back & watched Erika show the world how vicious & vile she truly is & make excuses for it. When Kyle saw Garcelle stand up to Erika & Erika didn’t get vicious with her, all of a sudden Kyle now has a backbone! Erika is use to bullying her way through life! I’ve always been a huge fan of Kyle but last season & esp this season I’m also seeing her in a much different way! She should be ashamed of the way she treats Sutton & esp her sister Kathy!
It irritates me to no end how Dorit talks to everybody like a kindergarten teacher! Especially to PK!
I freaking love Kathy! She makes everything naturally funny without even trying😂
Kathy wearing platform boots in the snow bless her heart..love her!!!
Just the fact alone that Bravo keeps her on the show, when she calls the victims liars, files appeals to keep earrings directly kinked to stolen money, is unfathomable & awful. The temporary ratings they are reaping, will have a long-term effect in terms of how ppl view the show & the network. The viewers are truly shocked. I see the comments everywhere. People have lost any respect for Evolution Media, Bravo, NBC Universal, and for Andy, who's always defending her.
Have anyone noticed Erika keeps asking /hinting around for Dianna to buy her something
Bravo needs to read the room and give E a break. A couple seasons. Just let her be for a while.
@@frostiepow yes, I did. First she asked her to buy them a house in Aspen. Then she asked her to buy some jewelry, but for "herself".
I see why Kim and Kathy have kept their distance for Kyle all this time.
I love Kathy, on the show and the thing best about her is that you would have never thought she was soo dope, like this.
Didn’t Mrs Jenkins say she was “allergic” to retail stores?
Letting this “play out” is code for I’ve got time and money, which the victims do no have. She is diminishing the eventual settlement amount they will receive, with no care for how they are actually able to survive day to day. Her Rich friends are allowing Erika access to the good life and they should stop doing that, so she realizes no one will accept her cruelty toward the victims of Tom Giradi! She was the main beneficiary of his crimes, she and his partners. During the Madoff investigation there were people that made a fortune from his crimes then there were the victims. It doesn’t matter if she knew, she directly benefitted!
Say it AGAIN!!!
Erika is obviously told by her lawyers to not talk about the "victims" & to not talk about the case on national tv. She's ended up being cleared of one case against her. She needs support not judgement.
Let’s let Erika go and make Kathy a full housewife
Erika needs to stop walking away.
Girl, you don't have another job!
Kyle has more love and affection for the damn dog than her own sister. Weird.
All that seems to come out of Kyle’s mouth about Kathy or these “cutesy” little jabs. And if she’s ever confronted about it, she would just say that she’s “poking fun”- but it’s Every. Single. Time. We. See. Them. Together.
I agree Erika cannot address anything during an open investigation. Why not wait for her book soon to come.
I’m finding Dorit really bizarre these last two episodes. Last season she at least mildly spoke out about the victims but this episode she’s totally flipped. Even Rinna isn’t here defending this nonsense and Diana is questioning her stance. Wtf is Dorit thinking standing by this?
But Diana just asked the same thing that the other ladies asked and Erika didn't go off on her ????
She won't go up against her though. Erika is her own worse enemy
Why do ppl think others want dogs around while they are eating?? THIS IS WHY I DON'T DO POTLUCKS!!
As a dog owner and lover….I TOTALLY AGREE!
Me to hell no if I have not visited your home I will not eat your food ! Especially if you have cats as well it’s a no for me! I watch folk in the bathroom that walks out without washing their hands so nasty and disgusting!!! Naw I will bring my lunch!
We had a potluck at school and as soon as she plug in her crock pot the roaches came out. The students noticed 1st. Plus if you let your dog in your bed... YOU ARE SLEEPING IN DOG FECES
@@GEECHIEGirl 😩😩😩🤢🤢🤢
Kyle talks about Kathy as if it’s burden to have an older sister
I'm sure there's more to their relationship than we see, but Kyle is super disrespectful to her sister.
It’s called jealousy. Unfortunately one sister has alot more money. It causes inequity. Also im sure Kyle is going through the change
I would love to see Kenya and Erika be cast together!
Erika checking them price tags and calling things "nice" instead of buying them. Poor girl problems.
Erika wants ENABLERS not friends
They made sure to show us Crystal ordering a croissant
Diana threw shade at Kyle saying she’s protecting them from herself by not staying at Kyle’s. FF5 would have had an issue if Garcelle or Sutton did that!
Ubelievable how they all ganged up against many women in rhobh who were saints in comparation to this vile human existance called E. and now Kyle, Rinna, Dorit, etc they all backing her up and finding excuses for her... Whats the catch? They are not embarassed even for themselves?
I love it. Erica has no protection anymore.
Your on an island all alone right where you belong.
I thought Diana was allergic to stores?
Several thoughts:
1) The way that Kylie picks at her sister has made the other women feel comfortable doing so. And it’s not playful at all. Kathy is so herself, and Kylie is…a try-hard
2) The conflict happening between Erica and Kyle/Diannah/Dorit/Diannah is SO interesting because if Garcelle or Sutton had this same issue, these exact women would say they’re pushing it
I remember a time when Dorit & Erika was at each other's throat now they're best buddies. I don't understand how Dorit can defend Erika's actions. But I guest this a new story line.
Erika “That’s not friends. I don’t want to do it.” OKAY GREAT DONT COME BACK NEXT SEASON BYE!! Oh wait. U need the little check to pay for ur legal bills 🤣
Altho we know Bravo can't or won't make it happen, Kathy needs to take Kyle's place to give this show some Class. In fact I wld start with keeping Kathy, Sutton and Garcelle and be rid of everyone else.
So sick of Kyle bashing on Kathy for silly things, while crying about Erika who doesn't care about anyone but herself.
Erika do not care and will never care. She got herself and herself only lets see her fir what she is. The end...
Every time Kyle wears a hat it's drama🤣🤣
A lot of people aren’t seeing where Erika is coming from. Every word she says can be used against her. So I get where she’s coming from. She can’t say she feels sorry for someone or people that are saying she took something from them.
I know everyone is jumping on in Erika and rightfully so… but why is Kyle feeling like every conversation has to have her in it and if she doesn’t know what’s happening she will start it just to be apart of it?
Tired of them disrespecting Kathy.
Erika’s fuming not only because these women keep asking questions, but because they increasingly expect the answers to make SOME kind of sense 🥴 she’s used to hearing something she doesn’t like (even if it’s true), piercing through a person with those soulless eyes of hers, dropping an f-bomb and making them shrink away. That’s no longer working so they’re not her “real friends” anymore lol
I’ll say this. I understand Erika’s reasonings. She feels like if she says she feels bad the media will make it seem like SHE is guilty and feels bad. And the only person’s opinion who matters to her at this point is the one who can dead the ENTIRE situation. Which is the Judge. None of the women really have her back.
Allllll of thissss! Honestly, they treat her like she was the lawyer and she stole the money. They’re trying to make her obligated to feel bad for someone else’s situation, when she is going through her own situation. & if they don’t like her stance, why not remove her from their circle? Instead, they continue to ask her questions, then call her evil when she responds to them. 🙄
@@keran3709 I think they hold her to a high Standard because she’s had this Tough persona for so long. That persona is unfortunately working against her. I don’t like the way she treats people BUT I don’t think she is the Bad guy as they are saying in terms of the legal shit. The real bad guy is that one sitting across from her. Diana.
@@Bataowata I totally agree. I also think it’s bc they are not asking her to be sincere. They want her to implicate her self, and she’s refusing to do it.
@@keran3709 She can be more compassionate about what happened to the people that died.
@@awkwardsanchez6231 true, but the keyword you used was “can.” I think the point everyone is missing is, she doesn’t have to nor is she obligated to. Therefore, they shouldn’t expect it based on personal opinion. 🤷🏽♀️
Bravo can’t let Erika come back next season
Can Kyle stop dogging on her sister? Lol like she’s obsessed about talking crap about Kathy
Erika has said what she said, and will have to deal with the fallout. Her comments were disgraceful.
It looks freezing! I moved to the West Coast to get away from the cold. 😀
Erika’s “court of law” BS is pathetic! Tom won huge client settlements + clients never received a dime = Erika’s lifestyle was paid for by victims money! It’s not complicated!
Thank you
god dorit is so boring, in between crying from her insurance fraud break in, to saying 'so chique' there is nothing there.
I love Kathy!!!!!! She appears so Authentic which is very Refreshing..Kyle you Need to take that under consideration 🤔 😏
Dorit has no back bone, she never says anything to erika face to face but behind her back she has alot to say.
Someone give Erika a super villain Cape to go along with her boots
I notice that whenever Erika tries to “explain” herself, whenever she starts to get caught up or stumbles on her wording, she deflects by going into this whole “see, that’s why I can’t talk about this cause there’s just so much!” or “see, now I’m getting emotional about this cause it’s so stressful!” She gets frustrated because she can’t keep her lies straight. I see right through it.
You're exactly right! She did this at the reunion too!
In T Tucker voice. E Jayne was living with her hubby & she had no idea what was going on? Cmon she's a smart woman. That babytalk is an act too. If you watch the show & in interviews her voice changes.
Seeing rinna helping kathy in the snow is so ironic 😂