Yeah He would of loved her so much that he would of tried to take Eowyn for himself like ‘he tried to take the ring from Frodo after swearing an oath to protect him’ 😢😂
In the books, it's a little bit clearer-- hitting the Witch King is extremely damaging to you. Eowyn gets really sick and recovers in Gondor, where she meets Faramir while they're both recovering :) and fall in love. It's a very cute side story!
I love Sam, and Frodo needed him, but people don't give Frodo enough credit. They really don't understand the power that ring has on people. Also, Frodo willingly chose to accept the burden from day one, do people also forget that? Frodo literally carried the ring, all of the characters were heroic and essential, but that burden was on him alone.
There's also the fact that Frodo (and Bilbo for that matter) never claimed ownership of the ring. They carried it but not in the 'it is mine!' - which is how it is different when Frodo in mount doom says 'the ring is mine!'
They put that final ending to show that Sam is the one who gets the hero's ending - coming back home and living happily ever after with his wife and kids.
Well, actually, Sam also receives an invitation from the Valar to sail to the Undying Lands since he was also a ring-bearer, which he accepts later on in his life. So a real full circle happy ending for him. Gimli is also permitted to go, making him the first Dwarf ever to make it to Valinor.
Actually Sam (who ended up having 13 children) named his eldest son “Frodo”, which was especially appropriate since the child grew up to become head of the Gardner family and inheritor of Bag End just like Frodo Baggins before him.
The thing I LOVE about that last scene with gollum, is that throughout the ENTIRE three movies, he's been hunched over, but the SECOND he grabs the ring, he stands up straight. He wasn't complete without the ring, and with it, he's as tall as frodo is. It's such a subtle thing, but I love it.
Another cool thing that I saw mentioned was that Gandalf sent 3 eagles to frodo and sam. The reason being that he had hoped Smeagul would have been with them cured of his obsession with the ring. And it might have been so were it not for the one moment Frodo betrayed him in the Two Towers movie. But maybe it would have happened anyways even without the betrayal.
Eh.. I think that's over romanticism. The ring is what made him hunched over. Once the ring is out of someone's possession, the effects gradually starts to wear off. So if there was really hopes of him standing up straight, he would have to be rid of the ring, not obtain it.
@@CannedPsycho- nope Smeagol has had the one ring for a long long time. He was already mentally ill and not well, I doubt even the undying lands were gonna be able to help him
The point is that NO ONE could have stood in Mt. Doom and chosen to throw in the one ring. The evil was too great. Even Frodo, who was able to resist the ring for longer than anyone else who held it, could not. Frodo couldn't have done it without Sam, but Sam wouldn't have done it without Frodo. They were both essential.
@@RobertMorgan I wonder if sam if he was more based would have saw the corruption in frodo and push him or cut his finger and throw the ring (most certainly not cause even he struggle to give the ring back and he is the one which is the least affected by it.
The ring's corruption was at its all time high when it was sitting above the lava, desperately trying to stay alive. But Frodo resisted and grabbed Sam's hand. If it was Isildur in that situation, he would have let go and fall into the lava.
There is a theory that it is LITERALLY impossible to willingly destroy the ring. And it could only be done by accident. Meaning that Gollum was in fact necessary for this to work out. I don't know if it is true but it kind of makes sense and it's interesting at least.
Saurons reaction watching the Battle of the Black gate only to discover Frodo in Mount Doom when he puts on the ring. It's like a dude watching the superbowl on his couch only to realize his house is on fire LMFAO.
Sauron could sense the ring was nearby, but the distraction was drawing his attention, likely because Pippin was there (and through their link via the palantir, Sauron believed that Pippin had the ring). The ring is always giving off a minor beacon, but as soon as someone puts it on, it basically screams out to Sauron and the Nazgul, blaring like an alarm. It's why he didn't know where it was until that point, even though he looked directly towards Frodo just moments beforehand.
The thing is when Pippin touched the Palantir, Sauron thought he was the one with the Ring and knowing that Saruman was defeated, he assumed that they were going to give the Ring to Gondor to use it againts him. To Sauron, men were too weak and greedy and will try to use the Ring, the idea of people actually wanting to detroy it never crossed his mind. That's why he attacked Minas Tirith. When the battle of the Pelennor was lost, and Aragorn used the Palantir to show Sauron Narsil, Sauron assumed the reason Gondor was marching to the Black Gate was to challenge him with his own Ring. He believed the Ring was at the Black Gate and suddenly he feels it inside Mount Doom. So, it was like a guy putting out a little fire in the oven and suddenly his car explodes in the garage.
Sam became Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive 7-year terms, and then when Rosie died, he too left to leave for the Undying Lands, as he had held The Ring for Frodo in Cirith Ungol.
Y'all saying that Frodo was too weak. I want to remind you of the scene in Fellowship where Gandalf asks Bilbo to leave the Ring in the Shire. And it was physically IMPOSSIBLE for Bilbo to let the Ring go. He could only turn his hand so gravity would pull the Ring from him. Then when Sam took the Ring after he thought Frodo to be dead, it took only mere hours if not less for the Ring to corrupt him to the point where it was almost impossible for him to give Frodo the Ring back. The book perfectly shows how Sam almost lost his mind, how the Ring showed him visions of him as the bravest leader of his own army. Gollum let his own body burn to ashes happily to save the Ring a few seconds. You also have to note, that the Ring physically gets heavier, the closer you come to Mt. Doom. Frodos neck and chest are BLOODY because the weight on the chain literally cut into his skin an flesh. Frodo carried the Ring for MONTHS! The journey from the Shire to Mordor was 5 months, the walk from the tower where Frodo was taken after stabbed by the spider to the volcano was 10 FULL DAYS! The Ring was it's own failsafe. It was literally impossible to destroy it. It could only be destroyed by itself.
@@samwisehuluberlu2210 You're right, he didn't lose his mind. He actually shook it off pretty easily after he was finally able to give it back. But he didn't really laugh it off. He had the humility to realize he wasn't up to the task of leading an army and that the garden was a lie. One of the sweetest things I find in the trilogy was this whole scenario with Sam. That was the best the ring could do with someone so pure. It couldn't comprehend that tempting that kind of power ultimately wouldn't work on someone like Sam. It may have worked if, say, it showed him saving the Shire and making it the best garden in Middle-Earth. But it can't comprehend such pure things, so it has to throw in power. And Sam was never about power. And in the end, what the ring promised came true without it. He was a hero that defeated Sauron, and then he planted one of the best gardens in Middle-Earth, all across the Shire with Galadriel's gift of soil. 🥺
the physical weight is also why the Transient property thing of the ring wouldn't work. it had to be hauled on a chain by a stronger creature. and it's mindhack thing reaches absolute peak within the confines of Mount Doom, which is why there were no guards there. sauron was so sure it couldn't be destroyed he didn't bother. it took a literal accidental fall between two enthralled people by the ring to bring about its destruction. Even Tom Bombadil would lose dominion if the ring was allowed to survive.
Tolkien himself said that Frodo carried the ring farther than anyone else could have. The fact that he held the ring and still moved towards Mordor with the purpose of destroying it is beyond impressive.
One detail that I absolutely love during the final volcano scene, is that Frodo grabs Sam's hand BEFORE the ring is actually destroyed. If you consider the ring a living character in the story, the way it stays above the lava while Frodo is hanging to the cliff is like ... one last desperate attempt to drag Frodo with him. But Frodo actually resists this final temptation and chooses Sam. I feel like it would have been so easy to have Frodo only reach for Sam once that the ring is entirely destroyed, but they don't do that and it's awesome. It makes Frodo's choice much more powerful. He could have let go, he could have decided to join the ring in death, to follow its call one last time just like Gollum did, but he didn't. He chooses Sam. He chooses life. And only then is the ring destroyed for good. It's as if it was desperately holding on to that last bit of Frodo's soul, but once Frodo grabs Sam's hand, the ring lost for good. And yes, I'm writing this comment almost a whole year later but what can I say, I love those movies and I love rewatching these reactions.
It actually goes further - the scene is edited to indicate that the ring only burns up once Frodo decides to let it go. As in, there seems to be a causal link between the two, rather than just coincidence.
I always found it pretty chilling when Sam gets this full soundtrack-supported uplifting speech about home and goodness and hope, only for Frodo to say all he can see anymore is the horror of the dark lord "with my waking eyes". There's no more use for comforting words at that point. They can only press on through sheer force of will.
It's a phenomenal line read, too, like I wonder if after that delivery anyone went over to Elijah and asked him, like, where _that_ came from and if he needs to talk about it.
53:08 "He's a King with an Elven Queen. People are going to write stories about this bro." Fun fact: Eowyn and Faramir got married and had a family together. Their Grandson Barahir was in fact the one who, in canon, wrote the tale of Aragorn and Arwen which was a written chronicle of their romance and published across Middle Earth.
The multiple endings are essential for Frodo’s character. In all the previous endings, the camera focuses on him as the last shot, but his expression is always troubled. Though they have brought an end to evil, he still feels guilty for succumbing to the rings corruption in Mount Doom. At the reunion of the fellowship, Aragorn’s coronation, and Sam’s wedding, Frodo’s face isn’t at peace yet. But, right before he departs for the Grey Havens and after saying goodbye to his friends, he looks back . . . and he’s *smiling.* Elijah Wood’s brilliant acting displays pure acceptance in finally being at peace with himself after all the torment he’d been through. Such a beautiful way to show the progression of getting through past trauma by using different endings like this . . .
I love Gollums final scene, where he holds the ring up as he sinks into the lava. Its like the ring is so powerful at this point, and its control so absolute, Gollum is trying to save the ring as his body just breaks apart. The corrupting influence this thing has is nuts.
And nobody realizes that the reason why the Ring takes so long to melt is because it's last goal is trying to tempt Frodo to join it by letting go and falling into the fire.
But it also has like some protection on it to prevent it from being melted within the fires as an last act for anyone to somehow be bold enough to retrieve it. I doubt very much that Frodo would've risked getting it like Gollum
@@gibbletronic5139 yea, that’s why Frodo takes so long to fully reach up and grab Sams hand, the ring is telling him to let go and join it in the fire.
And yet in a way, Gollum and Smeagol were the ones who most frustrated the Ring's desires, because neither of them would _ever_ accept it belonged to Sauron.
I cracked me up how much shit they gave frodo as if he hasn't been constantly fighting a mental, spiritual and emotional battle because of that ring while being hunted on top of that. Im not taking anything from sam
They even said Sam was MVP as if Frodo wasn't literally holding off IMPOSSIBLE attraction to the ring. Nobody could've thrown the ring but of course The Normies do the normal thing of just missing the point
That's everybody's reaction after seeing the movie the first time. Usually when people go back and watch it do they notice he had the worst job and did better than anyone could've expected
@@manicmcgee1 that definitely is not everybody's reaction the first time. Neither my family or friends ever thought that lol the consensus was that they had both done and been through a lot
It’s helpful when watching the Normies to remember they are called the Normies for a reason. They are going to constantly frustrate you if you’re looking for meaningful commentary
I wish they could somehow do a reaction to the prologue in the book. All of Sam's children's names, his 49 years as mayor, what happens to all of the other characters when they're older, and the final ship over the sea...
And further, Tolkien said that he anglicised hobbit names because to them -a is a masculine ending, but he changed it to -o because -a sounds like a feminine ending to English readers. So the joke about him naming his child Froda is actually accurate! Well, almost. I googled to double check before posting, and while for example Bilbo was really named Bilba, Frodo underwent slightly more translation - his name in the hobbit language is Maura, most likely related to a word used in Rohan meaning "wise", so Tolkien gave him the old Germanic name Frodo, which has a similar etymology. But if you know only half of the linguistic trivia, then Sam named his child Froda, and I think that makes for a more fun story.
So the lore is that Merry is actually the reason how the witch king died because the blade he wields is a Dúindain dagger which is a Dagger of Westernesse originally wrought by smiths of Arthedain. They were made for fighting the forces sent from Angmar
Yup. In the movie Aragorn just dumps a couple of small swords in the hobbit's laps at Weathertop so we get no idea about the significance of the swords. But in the book they find them in a barrow mound because they were almost trapped by a barrow wight in the Barrow Downs. Tom Bombadil saves them and tells them the history of the blades they keep. I wish PJ had included the barrow downs area but he prob couldn't separate the downs and Tom Bombadil. Too bad, that would have added to the weird vibe surrounding the army of the dead.
@@ogrestamp That is not true, they watched the extended edition where Merry was given that dagger by Galadriel. They even show that in this react series, so I'm guess I'm guessing you forgot or skipped that part.
@@lich109 that is true. Galadriel does give Merry a blade but it is never mentioned that it is a blade of the Westernesse. In fact it could be just any blade, like an elven blade. But we were talking about the books and not the movie. Speaking of the books, it is easy to forget that Merry has this special blade because he gets it in the beginning of The Fellowship and it doesn't come into play until the end of The Return of the King. That's a long con right there.
Return of the King was nominated for 11 oscars in 2004 (including best picture and best director, but none in the acting category) and won all 11. Clean sweep! Tied with Titanic and Ben-Hur for the most oscars (although, Titanic had 14 nominations and Ben-Hur had 12). Small correction: the films were not shot back-to-back, but simultaneously, within a period of 14-15 months (not including pick-ups), ending a year before the first film came out. That’s how long it took for all the post-production - a year per movie, on average!
She gets ignored and shat on occasionally (not so much these days tho) but shes the quickest at linking plot points and remembering names and connections. Yet shes sincere/open enough to get pulled in emotionally and get surprised by a scene. I believe the term is 'Sassy Empath' lol.
Big respect to Rana at the end for calling out that both Sam AND Frodo were important to that journey. I hate it when people shit on Frodo to build up Sam. It's not true, and what's more, it's unnecessary. Sam is impressive on his own without any need to tear down Frodo's accomplishments.
Rana’s presence is the only thing that keeps me watching this channel. She’s easily the best reactor they have. Doesn’t matter what they’re watching either. If she’s not reacting I’m not watching on this channel guaranteed.
Elijah Woods and Sean Austin did an acceptance speech for “best onscreen” duo back in 2003 (I remember watching it live) and Elijah said this with Sean standing next to him “we basically got this award for being best friends on screen and in real life, so thanks!”everyone was moved in the crowd when he said that. Pretty awesome friendship. Nice guys. Also the end credit song “into the west”written by Annie Lenox for this movie was a quite moment to hear for first time in theatres as the credits were rolling. Everyone stayed in the theatre I was in
It's the only movie I was that any people didn't just leave when the credit rolled. We also all applauded for a while. Nothing comes even close. I'd be ery surprise if I see a movie of this calibre again in my life.
Something to note about the Books vs. the Movies; when the books were first published as a trilogy the second book ended on a cliffhanger with the scene of Frodo getting stabbed by Shelob and readers had to wait years for the third book to come out to find out he wasn't actually dead. I had an old timer friend who grew up in the 60's who told me people used to write graffiti in subway cars and stuff that said "Frodo Lives".
Umm....no. People did not "wait years" for the third book. The publication history is (literally) well-documented. Tolkien had the entirety of The Lord of the Rings prepared as a manuscript, which was broken into three volumes published over three years. Sure, there was a wait, but it was from 11 November 1954 to 20 October 1955 in the UK, and 21 April 1955 to 5 January 1956 in the USA. Maybe people did graffiti that years later in the 1960s, but it would have nothing to do with a cliffhanger between The Two Towers and The Return of the King.
I read the books this way before the movies were released and I couldn't believe how the two towers ended! I was so upset , I almost didn't read the third book but I did finish it before the last movie was released. Definitely a cliffhanger tho!
@@johan7170 I suppose I can imagine that, though I have no clue what happens in any of the Marvel movies since Iron Man, but their details are demonstrably false.
52:36 Aragorn singing Elendil's Oath. "Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien sinomë maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta." Which translates to "Out of the Great Sea to Middle Earth, I am come. In this place I will abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world." These lines were recited by Aragorn's ancestors when they washed upon the shores of Middle Earth after the fall of Numenor.
@@astwas the best thing: Tolkien was a linguist, so all the elvish,old numenorean and the dark speech languages are made by Tolkien, he made them for his legendarium.
@@dyutimandas9772 He was a huge fan of languages; he loved the Old and Middle English, Welsh, Gaelic and Nordic tongues. He also drew a lot of inspiration from Norse mythology, if I recall right.
@@Rowaenthe Beowulf, Norse sagas, Norse mythology all inspired him I believe He truly mastered languages In fact, my original reply has something wrong Tolkien didn't make languages for his legendarium He made a legendarium for his languages
Eomer reacts that way to seeing Eowyn unconscious on the battlefield, because he had NO idea she was even there. It was sheer shock. Both he and Theoden believed her to still be at Edoras when the host leaves for battle.
That part always cracks me up so bad 😢. Such good acting. The absolute dread to see your baby sister 'dead' on the battlefield. That stings directly into your heart.
The ring bearers all got the honor to sail to the Undying lands. Even Sam, who did bear it for awhile, finally left after his wife died. FUN FACT: Gimili went too, when Legolas invited him. But when Sam left, that marks the end of the third age.
@@justmecarter1717 Yeah, the Fourth Age was well under way by the time Sam left Middle Earth. After raising twelve (?) children, and he didn't leave until after Rosie died.
Same with me, except this only time, because they literally spend their time laughing at these emotional moments 😑 Worst reaction ever to these movies (in my opinion !)
@@karybooks okay well this is just how they react to things. All I'm saying is that not everyone reacts to certain media the same way you will, and that's fine. For the record I'm a big Lord of the rings fan, but I'm not going to expect others to enjoy it or revere it as much as I do.
I believe the scene of Sauron's eye collapsing and exploding was made by one man who sacrificed his Christmas break to complete it by himself. Amazing shot 👏
It was also VERY deliberately orchestrated to not evoke any similarities with the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11. There had been a lot of (bullshit) complaints from some groups about the name of the second movie being "The Two Towers" and so, when deciding how Bara-dur would collapse, they came up with that implosion that blows it sideways so it didn't just collapse vertically.
Literally the only time Legolas and Frodo actually spoke was in Fellowship. When Legolas said, “And you have my bow.” Three whole movies and that’s it.
@@JordyWerner especially with a series like this one. For real, there are TV shows that don’t have character lists this long. And not even all of them were in it.
Eomer's reaction to finding Eowyn will always be heartbreaking. Imagine unexpectedly finding your sister half dead on a battlefield. The actor did really well in that small scene.
Legolas is the ultimate bro. Went on this entire quest with you from start to finish, was MVP on multiple occasions, repaired diplomatic relations between the Elves and Dwarves, and then to cap it all off, he brings your betrothed straight to your coronation. What a guy!
Cut Frodo some slack, he carried the soul-crushing weight of a sentient, demonic artifact around his neck. Galadriel said in the first movie that to carry a Ring of power is to be alone. Frodo's demeanour changes a lot from the first movie, he believes he will die and yet still carries on. Even though he has Sam by his side, he considers the Ring to be his burden and sees himself in Gollum from the beginning. That alone is terrifying and yet he keeps walking to Mordor. Frodo is a true hero. You can't see the psychological struggle like you can see Sam fighting and carrying his friend up a volcano, but if you think about it he sacrificed everything for the world to be saved. That is a heroic deed.
The best part about the whole trilogy is that the only way to destroy the ring was by accident in a brawl between Frodo and Smeagol, because the RIng just takes over when its on the edge of the fire.
Oor in the books it was hilarious irony. Gollum was so happy bouncing around that he slipped by himself. The second greatest evil the world has ever seen (arguably) was felled by a technically a hobbit's, happines. One could argue it was god who had a tiny little intervention, but I personally think pure irony is too good.
@Jermare I mean yeah after spending a third of your day watching the Ring's path, it would've been bad in movie form. But the book version is definitely more Tolkienian, and more poetic. They each fit their medium the best.
It was a big part of Tolkien's intended message that the Ring not be actively thrown into Mt Doom, but that it met it's destruction from its own manipulation and abuse of others. That Evil ultimately fails and destroys itself due to its own nature.
@@Dantelor it IS in fact the plan of Eru Illuvatar for it to happen that way. Which is why Gollum was able to keep the ring for so long. Illuvatar used the ring and Sauron’s own ambition to destroy it.
Unbelievably, that little girl graduated Harvard in 2023 with a Master's Degree in Dramatic Arts and Anthropology, and is working towards her PhD. Time flies.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Ring was actively trying to possess Frodo the whole time and when they got to Mt. Doom, it ramped up it's game big time!
According to Tolkien. Years later Merry and Pippin went to relive the journey and eventually settled in Gondor and when they died they both got burried next to Aragorn. Sam and Gimli also got the honours to sail to the Undying Lands, Gimli was the only dwarf ever to get that offer. The Undying Lands is only truly Undying for the elves though. Anyone else still ages but get to live the rest of their lives in utter bliss and happiness, which is why Frodo went. The scar he got from the Witch King's blade in his shoulder still hurt all the time and taking the ship was his only chance of lessening it and leaving all that pain behind him.
In an example of how little faith Hollywood had in the Fantasy genre when Peter Jackson made his pitch to the first studio, he thought he was asking too much trying to cram the story into 2 movies. The original studio wanted to do ONE movie for the entire trilogy, and then when he went to New Line Cinema, he was crushed when the guy they pitched it to said this wasn't 2 movies but was later relieved when told to make it 3 movies.
I remember that. I think the guy said(according to Jackson at least) "there are three books, right? It should be three films!" Yes sir, that makes all the sense in middle-earth
So just to clarify, the ring couldn’t be destroyed by one person alone. It was at its most powerful when inside of mount doom. The only way it could ever be destroyed is if it was accidental thrown in( hence Frodo and Sméagol fighting over it)
It actually just occurred to me that when Frodo woke up and saw Gandalf, he probably thought he was dead and seeing Gandalf in the after life or something, in fact for all he knew ALL of his friends had died on the quest and they were All reuniting in the after life....
Nah fuck frodo. Sam and aragorn the real mvps. Especially keeping the rest of the world alive. Yes frodo did get the ring in. But he fell still to it and hes a bitchy whiny bastard who believed gollum. At least sam and aragorn had their wits about them
The pitching process for the trilogy is described in detail on the bonus DVDs. Basically, for the longest time they wanted to make two movies. They spent I think like a year putting together concepts, writing the scripts and hoping they could sell Miramax (?) on this. And in the end New Line got involved and after their pitch, someone in charge went "Well, this is three movies, right?". They were very lucky. I remember that a lot of the press the movies got before Fellowship came out was the surprise and awe about a whole trilogy being made at once. That was just not a thing that studios used to do before that.
Btw, I think Faramir and his father were way more noble in the books. Faramir wasn’t even tempted by the ring an also very heroic, as far as I remember. His father didn't hate him as much as shown here. Also, Denethor was influenced by one of the same glass speres Saruman had, a Palantir. Gondor seemed to be way stronger in the books, too.
It amazes me how many horrors of the ancient world are defeated in these movies. Shelob is one of the most frightening entities in Middle Earth, and a gardener kills her in order to protect and avenge his friend.
@@FatGouf Exactly! Like they fought so many things that even Sauron didn't have control of, and they survived! Like that's a super big achievement every time.
Can we talk about how Sam had never even seen a wraith, a giant spider, orcs, goblins, trolls, or characters like Aragorn, yet he met each with the same courage and bravery. A solid dude.
Literally so did Frodo, Merry and Pippin lol, what makes Sam different. ALL four of them saw everything that they saw for the first time and went into everything head on while still being courageous and fighting until the end.
It was so great to watch these movies "with" y'all! I've shown these movies to friends before, and it is no easy feat to get multiple people to get through them all. It's worth it, but it is, as Suraj said, "an arduous journey". As a big LOTR fan, I am touched by the appreciation shown by those who have seen the movies before, and loved watching Rana, Pat, and Marketa see them for the first time (even though Marketa has seen them once, it still felt like most of it was new for her). I could not stop laughing at all the screaming during the scenes where Gollum throws away the bread and then when he reappears at Mount Doom. And I got hyped with all of you during the epic scenes. I love watching these movies with my best friends, and watching these videos felt a lot like that. Thank you for watching and sharing!!!
A fun fact, the Charge of the Rohirram was said to have been inspired by a famous charge at the Battle of Vienna where the Polish sent thousands of Winged Hussars against the Ottoman Empire forces. They started slow and spread out but as they gain speed they clustered together and just ran straight through the enemy. Not caring about the flanks, just keep charging forward and soon the battle was won within hours. It was said that Tolkien was inspired by this.
fun fact: As far as we know, what you are describing was the biggest cavalry charge in history. 18 thousand horses. That's 3 times as many as the rohirrim army in the movie.
Two fun facts about Sam from Tolkien's correspondence with book fans: 1) Tolkien unambiguously considered Sam the real hero of the story, and based him on the working class soldiers who served with him in WW1, keeping their friends and COs alive through their courage and loyalty. 2) After the books were published and had been out for a while, Tolkien received a letter from a man whose real name was Sam Gamgee. Turns out he was distantly related to the family company who had inadvertently helped inspire the name (they were a brand name of cotton wool products that Tolkien grew up with). The author joked that he was lucky that he had made Sam a heroic character, and dreaded the day he got a letter from a Mr S. Gollum.
One of the most gut wrenching scenes, in my opinion, is when Bilbo asks Frodo about the Ring. It shows that even when it is destroyed the desire for it remains. I think that is the moment Frodo knew he had to leave. The Ring spoiled his entire life. The Shire wasn't saved for him. Some of the best movies ever! Thank you guys for watching!
Frodo's ending always hits me hard. I know others have said this in previous comments, but Tolkien was a veteran of WWI, and specifically the Battle of the Somme, which was... really close to just being Hell. One of the worst battles of the second most destructive conflict in human history. So Frodo coming home to the place he's fought and suffered so hard to get to and not being able to settle into his old life, and unable to relate to the people there who can't comprehend what he's seen and done. It's so obviously a taste of what Tolkien felt coming home and it just hits hard.
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!" I shit you not, when I saw this in theatres as a 14 year old, everyone in the theatre had tears down their eyes. In fact throughout the entirety of the film everyone was crying.
I just learned there were three eagles with Gandalf as he rescued Frodo and Sam. The Third eagle was supposed to rescue Smeagol, but only arrived to find they have failed to save him from the ring.
His name is Gray Horsfield. That scene later got him a job on Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel, because he's the best at particle simulation in collapsing buildings.
Enjoyed these reactions overall. It was a ring that even Gandalf was afraid to even touch, and Galadriel exerted great effort to resist. These two characters are pretty much demigods. And it would corrupt any other person who took it. The ring was already working on Frodo as they traveled, and it took til Mt. Doom (where its power is the strongest) to finally break him. Eventually it would've broken Sam too, if Sam was the one who held on to it for long. Frodo left because he could no longer find peace in the Shire. He was far too changed, and far too broken for him to return to the normalcy that Sam and the rest achieved.
In the book he was also much more affected by the stab wound from the morgul blade. It gave him pain and on the anniversary he was extremely sick and crippled. So it would’ve kept happening till he died
How do you enjoy these reactions when they react so shitty at every little thing and make dumb comments. I get it's an reaction but holy shit lord of the rings is not game of thrones
In first movie when Smeagol was introduced when Frodo said it's pity that Bilbo didn't killed him and Gandalf said "My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over". At the end of the trilogy we can see what was Gollum part, if he was not there ring would not be destroyed.
Im grown man, blue collar, rough around the edges, intimidating to some apparently, but these movies make me ball my eyes out. Sam's speech in The Two Towers and the entire ending to ROTK, especially the "you bow to no one" and "ill carry you" lines get me everytime. I can watch the saddest movies, heart touching videos, and suffer through life sadness with a stone colled face, but i cant make it through these movies with out crying. 😂
I'm just realizing... Frodo didn't know that Gandalf was alive, so when he woke up back in Rivendell and saw Gandalf, he probably thought he died in Mordor or something
Frodo thought Gandalf had died in Moria, he hadn't met him yet as the white wizard. And he doesn't wake up in Rivendell after Mount Doom, but in Gondor.
The cavalry charge still gives me chills. In real life, it wasn't uncommon for thousands of cavalry to be involved in major battles. It must have been terrifying being a foot soldier and seeing hundreds of cavalry charge at you like mad lads.
@@Fordo007 that's not really a fantasy. There's numerous times cavalry charges broke a line of spears. The Battle of Gaugamela is a prime example of how effective a strong cavalry charge can be against simple spear soldiers. A cavalry formation like the flying wedge was extremely effective against basic spear soldiers prior to gunpowder and modern tactics. There's too many battles in history to back that a simple wall of spears wasn't enough to defeat cavalry when that cavalry is used effectively. On a side note, the wedge formation tactic is still used by police departments to disperse rioters in 2021. As Fantasy accurately pointed out, the game changed when infantry squares and artillery became a thing because they were perfect counters to the hammer of heavy cavalry.
no one but Frodo was able to come close to bringing that ring to mount doom. sam held it for like 2 seconds and struggled to hand it over. smeagol lost his whole composure upon seeing it lol. If they could visualize Frodo's purity and strength of heart it would be a gate of steel compared hay huts. Sam was filled with doubt and fear and became the hero he needed to be at the end. Frodo accepted what this journey and his seemingly inevitable demise half way through the first movie. his resolve is literally unmatched. not even gandalf felt he had the strength to resist it. galadriel the queen of the elves the bearer of the ring of power one of the first. BARELY resisted even an OFFER of it. i mean just think about the level of corruption on that ring. and Frodo was so pure of heart it took 4 years of lugging that thing around even to the pits of Mount Doom itself before it broke him. ALSO CHRIS ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE SO ADAMENT ABOUT IT: Denethor sacrificing him and faramir was at a hall just to the left of the throne rooms gates. they walked down a couple steps from the throne room then turned left at the white tree they were still on the tippy top level. Denethor ran out the door and maybe a football field off the tip. it wasnt that far. the camera work made it seem like they were going down levels deeper into the city.
I always thought PJ shortchanged just how devastating the quest was for Frodo on a physical and spiritual level. For example, in the book, on the anniversary of his wounding by the Morgul blade on Weathertop, Frodo would be basically bedridden for several days, not just have a sore shoulder to rub out. The destruction of the Ring left a hollow in his soul that could not be filled. This is why Bilbo and Frodo were allowed to sail to West, to live out the rest of their days with a degree of comfort they'd never find in Middle Earth.
There are plenty of instances where PJ shows exactly the toll the ring took on Frodo. It’s pretty off putting in a story telling sense if he were to just randomly show Frodo being bedridden. He does a great job of slowly showing the corruption and struggle Frodo is going through. By the time they reach Minas Morgul the ring has damn near incapacitated him. I think it’s an unfair critique to say he shortchanged it when a good majority of the movie, particularly the last half of the return of the king, was devoted to just how beaten down and downtrodden Frodo really was.
I feel like the witch king is the most under appreciated villain in any film, since Sauron never actually sat foot on the field of battle the witch king is the only real representation of a major villain on the field and he’s largely overlooked since he dies so quickly.
JRR Tolkien was a linguist by trade. He served in the British army in WWI, in the trenches, and saw some of the absolute worst of that war. He invented the world of Middle Earth and the languages of the Elves and Dwarfs during the war as an escape. The Hobbit was a story he started as a Christmas Story with his family; children nieces and nephews told on Christmas Eve. Every year, he made a new chapter, so it was created over many years. Eventually his best friend, Louis Carroll who wrote Alice in Wonderland, told him you should right this all down and publish it. Btw, Tolkien and Carroll often bemoaned that there were not enough stories written that they found interesting. They eventually formed a book club dedicated to the mission of writing stories they would want to read. He wrote down The Hobbit, and it was a huge success; a light, children's story of about 300 pages. The publisher asked him to write another story. Go back to Middle Earth and give us a nice little story again. But, WWII broke out, and Tolkien felt he needed to write something more that a cute story. His final story was 1200 pages. He wanted it to be published as just one book, but in post WWII England, paper was rationed. It was illegal to publish such a long story with so much paper. To get around the paper rationing, the book was divided in 3 parts, released when they were allowed to do so. The Two Towers ends with Frodo being stung by Sheilab, and everyone thought Frodo died. A few years later, The Return of the King was released. By this time, it was a cultural phenomenon. Graffiti writing "Frodo Lives!" covered London. Also, Louis Carroll was a short man, a keen gardener, interested in ale and smoking his pipe. Carroll had a very low, booming voice. He could be heard talking a long distance away, and he spoke slowly, thinking of every word before he said it. Carroll was not only the inspiration for Hobbits, but he was also Treebeard! Except the Bible, this is the best selling book in history.
When Merry stabbed the Witch King with the special elvish dagger (given by Galadriel), it broke the invulnerability enchantment of the ring upon him, and Eowyn finished the service. It wasn't his fate being taken down by men, but a hobbit.
It's not a special ELVISH dagger. It's a blade that was forged by the Dunedain during the early part of the third age in Arnor when they were at war with the realm of Angmar that the WitchKing ruled. The Hobbits get the Barrow Blades well before they even know who Galadriel is... Actually they get the Barrow Blades before they ever even make it to Bree and meet Aragorn. The movies cut the Old Forest on the border of Buckland, Tom Bombadil, and the Barrow Downs completely out.
@@waynepurcell6058 well you can't add everything completely the novels of Tolkien is like all very detailed and extra side plots and so on many more. There's way too much to add for just three movies and limited time.
and once again, mercy, kindness, nobleness, and strong will, portrayed in Frodo by Tolkien, go unnoticed. sad to see people jumping to conclusions and not seeing deeper, being so fast to deal out death and judgement
The elves left to the land where they originally came from gandlf took shadowfax on the ship. Frodo and Bilbo were able to go because they were ring bearers Sam was also able to cross as well later on because he had the ring for a short time. Fun fact that's Sean's actual daughter at the end. The books go into tons of details worth reading or listening to if you really love the story.
Well, the elves technically weren't _from_ Valinor. The Ñoldor lived there for a while before coming back to Middle Earth but the majority of elves we see are Sindar who have never seen Valinor. None of them are truly from Valinor though since all of the elves started at the shores of Cuiviénen to the east of Mordor. This knowledge is irrelevant but I read the Silmarillion so I have the right to be That Guy
@@emPtysp4ce Galadriel was born in Valinor though since she was born after the Noldor arrived there which is the reason she glows so much bc the light of the trees has touched her. But you’re correct that the others are Sindarian with Elrond being half-elven.
In the scene with the Rohan charging into battle when filming everyone could hear the rumble of horses running because of all the horses. It gives me goosebumps everything. Also Sean's (Sam) daughter was the little girl who ran to him at the end because they wanted that part to be realistic.
Ok so the reason the Ring didn't instantly melt in the lava is because Sauron was hoping he could tempt Frodo to jump in and save it. Smeagol was so obsessed with it that he didn't even realize he was dying. Frodo thought about letting go of Sam's hand to get the Ring, but Sam's voice brought him back to his senses. As soon as Frodo decides to live, the Ring realizes it can't be saved and slips into the lava and burns. And Frodo leaves because he had been damage with dark magic by both the ring and the Nazgûl blade. It wasn’t gonna heal living in their world so the only choice he had was to go to the Gray Havens. If he stayed the pain would worsen and spread.
Frodo, Bilbo and Gandalf were allowed to leave for the undying Lands because they were Ring bearers:) btw Sam was allowed to go there aswell when he was older (remember he also was a Ring bearer for a while) and the friendship between gimli and legolas was so strong that they simply didnt give a flying F*ck and legolas just took gimli with him there :D
Sam isnt an 100% pure soul, he mistreated Gollum continously even when he had no reason to do so - Frodo saw him do this multiple times and thats why his doubt sets in when its about Sam vs Gollum, especially since gollum was also intensely loyal to frodo for a while.
Exactly. That is better exemplified in the book when before taking them to the tunnel Gollum is within an inch of regret and Sam then calls him a sneak, which erases all thought of redemption from him. There was little hope for Gollum, but not no hope, and Sam was wrong to mistreat him.
@DraculaCronqvist That moment was mentioned in Unfinished Tales rather than the Lord of the Rings novel, though. And it came about because the Nazgûl came calling at his door, and he panicked and went to Gandalf to ask for forgiveness and for help, only to find him gone. Later though, when the Ents have destroyed Isengard and Gandalf comes to parley, he offers him redemption (in very generous terms, it must be said), and again, Saruman comes close to accept. But once more, his pride wins out in the end.
Lots of really weird Dick swinging in their commentaries, it's really annoying. They seem to be at some sort of state of mind where nuance is either lost upon them or they choose not to see it in place of telling jokes.
What an amazing trilogy, glad you reacted to it! I loved watching along with you and hearing your chat at the end. Also yes the credits at the end are crazy! Growing up in nz it’s so cool because everyone there has either been involved in the trilogy themselves or knows someone who has. Literally, a close family friend of mine was heavily involved with building the hobbit holes, my music teacher played in the orchestra that recorded the soundtrack, one of the elf hands shown during the last battle scene belongs to my old school teacher … It feels like they literally took almost every kiwi who was free and around at the time and had them be background actors or something
I always thought it was poetic that the ring only sinks after Frodo grabs Sam’s hand. I always chalked that up to Frodo setting it aside, choosing to live and hope and only then did the ring loose it’s hold over him and sink into the lava… just good attention to detail there.
Watching ending scenes and not crying!? I legit cry everytime I hear the words "My Friends, You bow to no one" Also when Frodo goes to ship to sail for undying lands. Guys you gotta give it up for J.R.R Tolkien. Also thank you Peter Jackson for such wonderful cinematic experience. Can't wait for Prime's LOTR version. Definitely would re-watch all both trilogies before setting up for Prime's LOTR. Thank you, the normies!
That scene in the book was sooo badass as the witch king was casting spells on it as it struck three times and right on the third time the gates burst open. He was casting spells each time it hit. Fucking dope tbh
This trilogy ended an era of filmmaking. The producers took a HUGE risk because no one really cared about fantasy at the time. Such a colossal production turned into a box-office failure would have easily destroyed them. I don't think a project this big would be made today, and I doubt we'll ever see anything like it in the future.
Fun fact about the drivers: My psychology teacher back in secondary school was working odd jobs in New Zealand when the films were being made. He worked as a driver for Elijah Wood (Frodo) and some of the other actors. Elijah had to sit up at the front with him because it was too awkward to get in the back due to the Hobbit feet. The Hobbit feet were really itchy :) One night my former teacher was goofing around with some of the other crew with the fake weapons, and Viggo Mortensen stuck his head outta the window above and asked them to keep the noise down (cause it was like 2am) they felt super bad and shut up immediately lol
Little story fact: The blade that Merry stabbed the witch king with was a special Barrow-blade that he got from another character in the Barrow-downs. It broke his protection spell and actually allowed him to be killed
In case you were unaware, there’s context Denethor’s madness. He has a Palantír, like Saruman uses to communicate with Sauron, and Sauron has corrupted him and made him go mad.
@@Commander_Shepard. Yikes that’s some faulty logic. That’s like saying that a chicken egg doesn’t come from a chicken because you didn’t see the chicken lay it.
@@Dan-B LOTR books and the movies are very different, from the story, lore, and even some character personalities. Trying to explain the movie characters by books is more like explaining superhero movie plots by their comic book counterparts.
He was depressed and cowed but he only truly went mad when he thought Faramir was dead. That was when he fully went off the deep end. He probably would have been fighting on the frontline had Faramir returned safely (Denethor wore his mail armour under his raiment at all times of the day ffs, he was about the business).
The Orcs fighting themselves in the tower makes sense for the super geeks out there. There are different tribes of Orcs. Sauron had trouble uniting them under one banner because there was some friction between different tribes. The Tower of Cirith Ungol was occupied by two different tribes and the simple incident was enough to start a fight between them.
The saddest thing for me is that Boromir never got to meet Eowyn, and see Faramir happy. He would have loved her.
He knows
Boromir would have offed himself if he had to eat Eowyn’s soup. It’s better that he died the way he did
He saw he is happy for his little brother in heaven
Yeah He would of loved her so much that he would of tried to take Eowyn for himself like ‘he tried to take the ring from Frodo after swearing an oath to protect him’ 😢😂
@@sioleka12 yeah you obviously know nothing🤡. Boromir was corrupted by the ring. And he died to defend pipin and merry.
He loved farimir
In the books, it's a little bit clearer-- hitting the Witch King is extremely damaging to you. Eowyn gets really sick and recovers in Gondor, where she meets Faramir while they're both recovering :) and fall in love. It's a very cute side story!
I love Sam, and Frodo needed him, but people don't give Frodo enough credit. They really don't understand the power that ring has on people. Also, Frodo willingly chose to accept the burden from day one, do people also forget that? Frodo literally carried the ring, all of the characters were heroic and essential, but that burden was on him alone.
Its normal on ur first watch. U start to realize the importance of frodo in ur rewatch, bc u know how corrupting and powerful the ring actually is.
A lot is the orcs and urakhi were Māoris.
There's also the fact that Frodo (and Bilbo for that matter) never claimed ownership of the ring. They carried it but not in the 'it is mine!' - which is how it is different when Frodo in mount doom says 'the ring is mine!'
Frodo was annoying
@@cringekiller348 you’re actually annoying. Looking at your account rotted my brain with how stupid it is
They put that final ending to show that Sam is the one who gets the hero's ending - coming back home and living happily ever after with his wife and kids.
Well, actually, Sam also receives an invitation from the Valar to sail to the Undying Lands since he was also a ring-bearer, which he accepts later on in his life. So a real full circle happy ending for him. Gimli is also permitted to go, making him the first Dwarf ever to make it to Valinor.
@@witdajuice6763 Yep. He went after Rosie passed away. I believe he was over 100 when he departed.
@@K-11609 Yes. Even cooler, Sam leaves with Celeborn and Cirdan himself.
@@shauntempley9757 wait, Celeborn? Didn't he leave with Gandalf and Galadriel like in the movie ?..
@@demyanrudenko He did in the films. I am talking about the books.
Actually Sam (who ended up having 13 children) named his eldest son “Frodo”, which was especially appropriate since the child grew up to become head of the Gardner family and inheritor of Bag End just like Frodo Baggins before him.
You can see Sam's lips saying Frodo (inaudibly) when he leans closer to the boy in Rosie's arms.
And then many years later he too went into the West because he was a Ringbearer.
@@nathanielreik6617 God what I would give to see a scene of them meeting up again once he finally arrived. "Hello Sam." "Hello Mister Frodo."
The thing I LOVE about that last scene with gollum, is that throughout the ENTIRE three movies, he's been hunched over, but the SECOND he grabs the ring, he stands up straight. He wasn't complete without the ring, and with it, he's as tall as frodo is. It's such a subtle thing, but I love it.
Never realized that. Badass observation my guy. ;D
Ye its really cool. Its as much of a part of him as his arms or legs.
Another cool thing that I saw mentioned was that Gandalf sent 3 eagles to frodo and sam. The reason being that he had hoped Smeagul would have been with them cured of his obsession with the ring. And it might have been so were it not for the one moment Frodo betrayed him in the Two Towers movie. But maybe it would have happened anyways even without the betrayal.
Eh.. I think that's over romanticism.
The ring is what made him hunched over. Once the ring is out of someone's possession, the effects gradually starts to wear off. So if there was really hopes of him standing up straight, he would have to be rid of the ring, not obtain it.
@@CannedPsycho- nope Smeagol has had the one ring for a long long time. He was already mentally ill and not well, I doubt even the undying lands were gonna be able to help him
The point is that NO ONE could have stood in Mt. Doom and chosen to throw in the one ring. The evil was too great. Even Frodo, who was able to resist the ring for longer than anyone else who held it, could not.
Frodo couldn't have done it without Sam, but Sam wouldn't have done it without Frodo. They were both essential.
Yep, Isildur wasn't even some weak Man, he was the best Numenorean. If even he could not deny the corruption of the ring, what hope could anyone have?
@@RobertMorgan I wonder if sam if he was more based would have saw the corruption in frodo and push him or cut his finger and throw the ring (most certainly not cause even he struggle to give the ring back and he is the one which is the least affected by it.
Don't forget about Gollum, also essential.
The ring's corruption was at its all time high when it was sitting above the lava, desperately trying to stay alive. But Frodo resisted and grabbed Sam's hand. If it was Isildur in that situation, he would have let go and fall into the lava.
There is a theory that it is LITERALLY impossible to willingly destroy the ring. And it could only be done by accident. Meaning that Gollum was in fact necessary for this to work out. I don't know if it is true but it kind of makes sense and it's interesting at least.
Saurons reaction watching the Battle of the Black gate only to discover Frodo in Mount Doom when he puts on the ring.
It's like a dude watching the superbowl on his couch only to realize his house is on fire LMFAO.
Lol Or a parent being home alone with their toddler and they hear the toilet flush.
"This is great. It's too bad that I don't have a corporeal form, or I could be eating popcorn right now--SWEET MOTHER OF MORGOTH!"
Sauron could sense the ring was nearby, but the distraction was drawing his attention, likely because Pippin was there (and through their link via the palantir, Sauron believed that Pippin had the ring).
The ring is always giving off a minor beacon, but as soon as someone puts it on, it basically screams out to Sauron and the Nazgul, blaring like an alarm. It's why he didn't know where it was until that point, even though he looked directly towards Frodo just moments beforehand.
The thing is when Pippin touched the Palantir, Sauron thought he was the one with the Ring and knowing that Saruman was defeated, he assumed that they were going to give the Ring to Gondor to use it againts him. To Sauron, men were too weak and greedy and will try to use the Ring, the idea of people actually wanting to detroy it never crossed his mind. That's why he attacked Minas Tirith. When the battle of the Pelennor was lost, and Aragorn used the Palantir to show Sauron Narsil, Sauron assumed the reason Gondor was marching to the Black Gate was to challenge him with his own Ring. He believed the Ring was at the Black Gate and suddenly he feels it inside Mount Doom.
So, it was like a guy putting out a little fire in the oven and suddenly his car explodes in the garage.
Lol sauron like OH SHIT! OH SHIT!
Sam became Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive 7-year terms, and then when Rosie died, he too left to leave for the Undying Lands, as he had held The Ring for Frodo in Cirith Ungol.
Y'all saying that Frodo was too weak. I want to remind you of the scene in Fellowship where Gandalf asks Bilbo to leave the Ring in the Shire. And it was physically IMPOSSIBLE for Bilbo to let the Ring go. He could only turn his hand so gravity would pull the Ring from him. Then when Sam took the Ring after he thought Frodo to be dead, it took only mere hours if not less for the Ring to corrupt him to the point where it was almost impossible for him to give Frodo the Ring back. The book perfectly shows how Sam almost lost his mind, how the Ring showed him visions of him as the bravest leader of his own army. Gollum let his own body burn to ashes happily to save the Ring a few seconds.
You also have to note, that the Ring physically gets heavier, the closer you come to Mt. Doom. Frodos neck and chest are BLOODY because the weight on the chain literally cut into his skin an flesh. Frodo carried the Ring for MONTHS! The journey from the Shire to Mordor was 5 months, the walk from the tower where Frodo was taken after stabbed by the spider to the volcano was 10 FULL DAYS! The Ring was it's own failsafe. It was literally impossible to destroy it. It could only be destroyed by itself.
@@samwisehuluberlu2210 You're right, he didn't lose his mind. He actually shook it off pretty easily after he was finally able to give it back. But he didn't really laugh it off. He had the humility to realize he wasn't up to the task of leading an army and that the garden was a lie.
One of the sweetest things I find in the trilogy was this whole scenario with Sam. That was the best the ring could do with someone so pure. It couldn't comprehend that tempting that kind of power ultimately wouldn't work on someone like Sam. It may have worked if, say, it showed him saving the Shire and making it the best garden in Middle-Earth. But it can't comprehend such pure things, so it has to throw in power. And Sam was never about power.
And in the end, what the ring promised came true without it. He was a hero that defeated Sauron, and then he planted one of the best gardens in Middle-Earth, all across the Shire with Galadriel's gift of soil. 🥺
the physical weight is also why the Transient property thing of the ring wouldn't work. it had to be hauled on a chain by a stronger creature.
and it's mindhack thing reaches absolute peak within the confines of Mount Doom, which is why there were no guards there. sauron was so sure it couldn't be destroyed he didn't bother. it took a literal accidental fall between two enthralled people by the ring to bring about its destruction.
Even Tom Bombadil would lose dominion if the ring was allowed to survive.
Tolkien himself said that Frodo carried the ring farther than anyone else could have. The fact that he held the ring and still moved towards Mordor with the purpose of destroying it is beyond impressive.
You are just lying Frodo fanboi.
Sam was never corrupted by the ring.
He did it far better than overrated annoying Frodo.
@@aydinbiber7616 yep.
Not even Gollum could've and would've done what Frodo did taking the ring from the shire to Mordor is a crazy feat
One detail that I absolutely love during the final volcano scene, is that Frodo grabs Sam's hand BEFORE the ring is actually destroyed. If you consider the ring a living character in the story, the way it stays above the lava while Frodo is hanging to the cliff is like ... one last desperate attempt to drag Frodo with him. But Frodo actually resists this final temptation and chooses Sam.
I feel like it would have been so easy to have Frodo only reach for Sam once that the ring is entirely destroyed, but they don't do that and it's awesome. It makes Frodo's choice much more powerful. He could have let go, he could have decided to join the ring in death, to follow its call one last time just like Gollum did, but he didn't. He chooses Sam. He chooses life. And only then is the ring destroyed for good. It's as if it was desperately holding on to that last bit of Frodo's soul, but once Frodo grabs Sam's hand, the ring lost for good.
And yes, I'm writing this comment almost a whole year later but what can I say, I love those movies and I love rewatching these reactions.
It actually goes further - the scene is edited to indicate that the ring only burns up once Frodo decides to let it go. As in, there seems to be a causal link between the two, rather than just coincidence.
I always found it pretty chilling when Sam gets this full soundtrack-supported uplifting speech about home and goodness and hope, only for Frodo to say all he can see anymore is the horror of the dark lord "with my waking eyes".
There's no more use for comforting words at that point. They can only press on through sheer force of will.
It's a phenomenal line read, too, like I wonder if after that delivery anyone went over to Elijah and asked him, like, where _that_ came from and if he needs to talk about it.
@@CruelestChris And Elijah was only 17 or 18 when he did this movie. Either he saw some bad stuff too young, or he's JUST THAT GOOD of an actor.
@@orboobleck5366 he was early 20s
You have to give Sam credit because without his sheer force of will, they wouldn't have made it that last push.
@@abberosen He was eighteen or nineteen when they started shooting; 21 by the time they finished.
53:08 "He's a King with an Elven Queen. People are going to write stories about this bro."
Fun fact: Eowyn and Faramir got married and had a family together. Their Grandson Barahir was in fact the one who, in canon, wrote the tale of Aragorn and Arwen which was a written chronicle of their romance and published across Middle Earth.
Aragorn and Arwen are essentially the Beren and Luthien of the 3rd and 4th age.
The multiple endings are essential for Frodo’s character. In all the previous endings, the camera focuses on him as the last shot, but his expression is always troubled. Though they have brought an end to evil, he still feels guilty for succumbing to the rings corruption in Mount Doom. At the reunion of the fellowship, Aragorn’s coronation, and Sam’s wedding, Frodo’s face isn’t at peace yet.
But, right before he departs for the Grey Havens and after saying goodbye to his friends, he looks back . . . and he’s *smiling.* Elijah Wood’s brilliant acting displays pure acceptance in finally being at peace with himself after all the torment he’d been through. Such a beautiful way to show the progression of getting through past trauma by using different endings like this . . .
I love Gollums final scene, where he holds the ring up as he sinks into the lava. Its like the ring is so powerful at this point, and its control so absolute, Gollum is trying to save the ring as his body just breaks apart. The corrupting influence this thing has is nuts.
And nobody realizes that the reason why the Ring takes so long to melt is because it's last goal is trying to tempt Frodo to join it by letting go and falling into the fire.
But it also has like some protection on it to prevent it from being melted within the fires as an last act for anyone to somehow be bold enough to retrieve it. I doubt very much that Frodo would've risked getting it like Gollum
@@gibbletronic5139 yea, that’s why Frodo takes so long to fully reach up and grab Sams hand, the ring is telling him to let go and join it in the fire.
And yet in a way, Gollum and Smeagol were the ones who most frustrated the Ring's desires, because neither of them would _ever_ accept it belonged to Sauron.
That, and him cradling it as he falls, totally oblivious of the lava he's about to land in, has always stuck with me
I cracked me up how much shit they gave frodo as if he hasn't been constantly fighting a mental, spiritual and emotional battle because of that ring while being hunted on top of that. Im not taking anything from sam
They even said Sam was MVP as if Frodo wasn't literally holding off IMPOSSIBLE attraction to the ring. Nobody could've thrown the ring but of course The Normies do the normal thing of just missing the point
They clearly don't understand mental torment
That's everybody's reaction after seeing the movie the first time. Usually when people go back and watch it do they notice he had the worst job and did better than anyone could've expected
@@manicmcgee1 that definitely is not everybody's reaction the first time. Neither my family or friends ever thought that lol the consensus was that they had both done and been through a lot
It’s helpful when watching the Normies to remember they are called the Normies for a reason. They are going to constantly frustrate you if you’re looking for meaningful commentary
"Froda!" everyone laughing, but for real, Sam named the baby boy Frodo, it's in the book. xD
I wish they could somehow do a reaction to the prologue in the book. All of Sam's children's names, his 49 years as mayor, what happens to all of the other characters when they're older, and the final ship over the sea...
@@bobdonda Sarumans real deatch...
And at Frodo's suggestion, Sam's daughter is named Eleanor.
And further, Tolkien said that he anglicised hobbit names because to them -a is a masculine ending, but he changed it to -o because -a sounds like a feminine ending to English readers. So the joke about him naming his child Froda is actually accurate!
Well, almost. I googled to double check before posting, and while for example Bilbo was really named Bilba, Frodo underwent slightly more translation - his name in the hobbit language is Maura, most likely related to a word used in Rohan meaning "wise", so Tolkien gave him the old Germanic name Frodo, which has a similar etymology.
But if you know only half of the linguistic trivia, then Sam named his child Froda, and I think that makes for a more fun story.
Named A baby boy Frodo. He was one of his children, but Sam's firstborn was Elanor.
"I think I'm quite ready for another adventure" that quote hits differently now RIP Ian Holm
So the lore is that Merry is actually the reason how the witch king died because the blade he wields is a Dúindain dagger which is a Dagger of Westernesse originally wrought by smiths of Arthedain. They were made for fighting the forces sent from Angmar
Yup. In the movie Aragorn just dumps a couple of small swords in the hobbit's laps at Weathertop so we get no idea about the significance of the swords. But in the book they find them in a barrow mound because they were almost trapped by a barrow wight in the Barrow Downs. Tom Bombadil saves them and tells them the history of the blades they keep. I wish PJ had included the barrow downs area but he prob couldn't separate the downs and Tom Bombadil. Too bad, that would have added to the weird vibe surrounding the army of the dead.
@@ogrestamp
He could've replaced Tom with Aragorn or some other knowledgeable character.
@@ogrestamp That is not true, they watched the extended edition where Merry was given that dagger by Galadriel. They even show that in this react series, so I'm guess I'm guessing you forgot or skipped that part.
@@lich109 that is true. Galadriel does give Merry a blade but it is never mentioned that it is a blade of the Westernesse. In fact it could be just any blade, like an elven blade. But we were talking about the books and not the movie.
Speaking of the books, it is easy to forget that Merry has this special blade because he gets it in the beginning of The Fellowship and it doesn't come into play until the end of The Return of the King. That's a long con right there.
@@ogrestamp She specifically talks about the blade and implies they have a magical nature.
Return of the King was nominated for 11 oscars in 2004 (including best picture and best director, but none in the acting category) and won all 11. Clean sweep! Tied with Titanic and Ben-Hur for the most oscars (although, Titanic had 14 nominations and Ben-Hur had 12). Small correction: the films were not shot back-to-back, but simultaneously, within a period of 14-15 months (not including pick-ups), ending a year before the first film came out. That’s how long it took for all the post-production - a year per movie, on average!
Such an achievement… til this day. 🎉🎉🎉
So proud of Rana as a first-time watcher and being the only person to know Grond's name.
She gets ignored and shat on occasionally (not so much these days tho) but shes the quickest at linking plot points and remembering names and connections.
Yet shes sincere/open enough to get pulled in emotionally and get surprised by a scene.
I believe the term is 'Sassy Empath' lol.
Yeah I kinda wish the people who'd seen it before would have just SHUT THE HELL UP during a few key scenes, for real
Big respect to Rana at the end for calling out that both Sam AND Frodo were important to that journey. I hate it when people shit on Frodo to build up Sam. It's not true, and what's more, it's unnecessary. Sam is impressive on his own without any need to tear down Frodo's accomplishments.
She has a really good memory. Even remembered Rosy even though she was a minor character from first movie.
Rana’s presence is the only thing that keeps me watching this channel. She’s easily the best reactor they have. Doesn’t matter what they’re watching either. If she’s not reacting I’m not watching on this channel guaranteed.
These movies won basically EVERY award you can win for a movie.
They set the bar in many fields. and inspired millions.
Elijah Woods and Sean Austin did an acceptance speech for “best onscreen” duo back in 2003 (I remember watching it live) and Elijah said this with Sean standing next to him “we basically got this award for being best friends on screen and in real life, so thanks!”everyone was moved in the crowd when he said that. Pretty awesome friendship. Nice guys.
Also the end credit song “into the west”written by Annie Lenox for this movie was a quite moment to hear for first time in theatres as the credits were rolling. Everyone stayed in the theatre I was in
It's the only movie I was that any people didn't just leave when the credit rolled.
We also all applauded for a while.
Nothing comes even close. I'd be ery surprise if I see a movie of this calibre again in my life.
Something to note about the Books vs. the Movies; when the books were first published as a trilogy the second book ended on a cliffhanger with the scene of Frodo getting stabbed by Shelob and readers had to wait years for the third book to come out to find out he wasn't actually dead. I had an old timer friend who grew up in the 60's who told me people used to write graffiti in subway cars and stuff that said "Frodo Lives".
Umm....no. People did not "wait years" for the third book. The publication history is (literally) well-documented. Tolkien had the entirety of The Lord of the Rings prepared as a manuscript, which was broken into three volumes published over three years. Sure, there was a wait, but it was from 11 November 1954 to 20 October 1955 in the UK, and 21 April 1955 to 5 January 1956 in the USA. Maybe people did graffiti that years later in the 1960s, but it would have nothing to do with a cliffhanger between The Two Towers and The Return of the King.
Yeah the first part isn’t true and also the second part sounds like horse shit lmao
I read the books this way before the movies were released and I couldn't believe how the two towers ended! I was so upset , I almost didn't read the third book but I did finish it before the last movie was released. Definitely a cliffhanger tho!
Imagine people making "Tony Stark lives" graffitis in the subway between Infinity War and Endgame.
@@johan7170 I suppose I can imagine that, though I have no clue what happens in any of the Marvel movies since Iron Man, but their details are demonstrably false.
52:36 Aragorn singing Elendil's Oath. "Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien sinomë maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta." Which translates to "Out of the Great Sea to Middle Earth, I am come. In this place I will abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world." These lines were recited by Aragorn's ancestors when they washed upon the shores of Middle Earth after the fall of Numenor.
I feel like everyday i learn tidbits about what Tolkein has written in books, man was legit a genius fairy man or something.
@@astwas the best thing: Tolkien was a linguist, so all the elvish,old numenorean and the dark speech languages are made by Tolkien, he made them for his legendarium.
@@dyutimandas9772 He was a huge fan of languages; he loved the Old and Middle English, Welsh, Gaelic and Nordic tongues. He also drew a lot of inspiration from Norse mythology, if I recall right.
@@Rowaenthe Beowulf, Norse sagas, Norse mythology all inspired him I believe
He truly mastered languages
In fact, my original reply has something wrong
Tolkien didn't make languages for his legendarium
He made a legendarium for his languages
Eomer reacts that way to seeing Eowyn unconscious on the battlefield, because he had NO idea she was even there. It was sheer shock.
Both he and Theoden believed her to still be at Edoras when the host leaves for battle.
That part always cracks me up so bad 😢. Such good acting. The absolute dread to see your baby sister 'dead' on the battlefield. That stings directly into your heart.
The ring bearers all got the honor to sail to the Undying lands. Even Sam, who did bear it for awhile, finally left after his wife died. FUN FACT: Gimili went too, when Legolas invited him. But when Sam left, that marks the end of the third age.
The third age ended with the fall of Sauron, on March 25.
@@justmecarter1717 Yeah, the Fourth Age was well under way by the time Sam left Middle Earth. After raising twelve (?) children, and he didn't leave until after Rosie died.
Gimli got to meet Galadriel again.
I *ALWAYS* get a lump in my throat when the king tells them:
"You bow to no one"
ALWAYS! 😭🔥❤
Same with me, except this only time, because they literally spend their time laughing at these emotional moments 😑 Worst reaction ever to these movies (in my opinion !)
@@karybookspeople react to things in different ways. It's the normies, you should have known what this was when you walked in...
@@SnekOil I couldn’t have known, it’s my first video of them 🫣
@@karybooks okay well this is just how they react to things. All I'm saying is that not everyone reacts to certain media the same way you will, and that's fine. For the record I'm a big Lord of the rings fan, but I'm not going to expect others to enjoy it or revere it as much as I do.
@@SnekOil I agree! I just felt like they made fun of it and I was bummed out 🥴
I believe the scene of Sauron's eye collapsing and exploding was made by one man who sacrificed his Christmas break to complete it by himself. Amazing shot 👏
It was also VERY deliberately orchestrated to not evoke any similarities with the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11. There had been a lot of (bullshit) complaints from some groups about the name of the second movie being "The Two Towers" and so, when deciding how Bara-dur would collapse, they came up with that implosion that blows it sideways so it didn't just collapse vertically.
Literally the only time Legolas and Frodo actually spoke was in Fellowship. When Legolas said, “And you have my bow.” Three whole movies and that’s it.
The magic of ensemble. You get a large enough cast together and you always have two characters that hardly speak.
XD
@@JordyWerner especially with a series like this one. For real, there are TV shows that don’t have character lists this long. And not even all of them were in it.
Well they get separated after the first film
Eomer's reaction to finding Eowyn will always be heartbreaking. Imagine unexpectedly finding your sister half dead on a battlefield. The actor did really well in that small scene.
My Favorite scene is when Frode reaches for Sam's hand its such a great parallel to the first movie where Sam grabs Frodo's hand in the river.
Legolas is the ultimate bro. Went on this entire quest with you from start to finish, was MVP on multiple occasions, repaired diplomatic relations between the Elves and Dwarves, and then to cap it all off, he brings your betrothed straight to your coronation. What a guy!
Legolas is an Elf of many talents.
Cut Frodo some slack, he carried the soul-crushing weight of a sentient, demonic artifact around his neck. Galadriel said in the first movie that to carry a Ring of power is to be alone. Frodo's demeanour changes a lot from the first movie, he believes he will die and yet still carries on. Even though he has Sam by his side, he considers the Ring to be his burden and sees himself in Gollum from the beginning. That alone is terrifying and yet he keeps walking to Mordor. Frodo is a true hero. You can't see the psychological struggle like you can see Sam fighting and carrying his friend up a volcano, but if you think about it he sacrificed everything for the world to be saved. That is a heroic deed.
The best part about the whole trilogy is that the only way to destroy the ring was by accident in a brawl between Frodo and Smeagol, because the RIng just takes over when its on the edge of the fire.
Oor in the books it was hilarious irony. Gollum was so happy bouncing around that he slipped by himself. The second greatest evil the world has ever seen (arguably) was felled by a technically a hobbit's, happines. One could argue it was god who had a tiny little intervention, but I personally think pure irony is too good.
@Jermare I mean yeah after spending a third of your day watching the Ring's path, it would've been bad in movie form. But the book version is definitely more Tolkienian, and more poetic. They each fit their medium the best.
It was a big part of Tolkien's intended message that the Ring not be actively thrown into Mt Doom, but that it met it's destruction from its own manipulation and abuse of others. That Evil ultimately fails and destroys itself due to its own nature.
@Jermare maybe but it was the message
@@Dantelor it IS in fact the plan of Eru Illuvatar for it to happen that way. Which is why Gollum was able to keep the ring for so long. Illuvatar used the ring and Sauron’s own ambition to destroy it.
That little girl that ran to greet Sam was Sean Astin's real daughter.
Unbelievably, that little girl graduated Harvard in 2023 with a Master's Degree in Dramatic Arts and Anthropology, and is working towards her PhD. Time flies.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Ring was actively trying to possess Frodo the whole time and when they got to Mt. Doom, it ramped up it's game big time!
LOL, yeah, it was trying to save its own Ass!
You would too if you saw a volcano in front of you and knew you were gonna be thrown into it. LOL
According to Tolkien. Years later Merry and Pippin went to relive the journey and eventually settled in Gondor and when they died they both got burried next to Aragorn. Sam and Gimli also got the honours to sail to the Undying Lands, Gimli was the only dwarf ever to get that offer. The Undying Lands is only truly Undying for the elves though. Anyone else still ages but get to live the rest of their lives in utter bliss and happiness, which is why Frodo went. The scar he got from the Witch King's blade in his shoulder still hurt all the time and taking the ship was his only chance of lessening it and leaving all that pain behind him.
Sam carrying Frodo NEVER fails to get me teary eyed.
In an example of how little faith Hollywood had in the Fantasy genre when Peter Jackson made his pitch to the first studio, he thought he was asking too much trying to cram the story into 2 movies. The original studio wanted to do ONE movie for the entire trilogy, and then when he went to New Line Cinema, he was crushed when the guy they pitched it to said this wasn't 2 movies but was later relieved when told to make it 3 movies.
The Fellowship Of the Two Kings.
New Line Cinema is kinda dumb with investments, but this time they were lucky.
I remember that. I think the guy said(according to Jackson at least) "there are three books, right? It should be three films!" Yes sir, that makes all the sense in middle-earth
When they started yelling during "my friends, you bow to no one" I almost threw hands
The Normies have zero respect.
Cope
Black Dude was on it, though, said "Focus."
@@joescott8877 hes the real one
I would never have a 1st watch with them.
The series was fun. But holy shit
So just to clarify, the ring couldn’t be destroyed by one person alone. It was at its most powerful when inside of mount doom. The only way it could ever be destroyed is if it was accidental thrown in( hence Frodo and Sméagol fighting over it)
“My friends! You bow to no one.”
I burst out in tears every time.
It actually just occurred to me that when Frodo woke up and saw Gandalf, he probably thought he was dead and seeing Gandalf in the after life or something, in fact for all he knew ALL of his friends had died on the quest and they were All reuniting in the after life....
It's very Wizard of Oz, when you look at that scene: "And you were there, and you were there, and YOU..."
"You bow to no-one..."
God bless you, Peter Jackson.
I'm mad at Suraj whos watched it loads for leading the Frodo bad charge lol, I can only let newbies get away with that.
He is not man of the west. He can never get it.
Nah fuck frodo. Sam and aragorn the real mvps. Especially keeping the rest of the world alive. Yes frodo did get the ring in. But he fell still to it and hes a bitchy whiny bastard who believed gollum. At least sam and aragorn had their wits about them
@@Aemond2024 ... really hope this isn't some racist BS.
The pitching process for the trilogy is described in detail on the bonus DVDs. Basically, for the longest time they wanted to make two movies. They spent I think like a year putting together concepts, writing the scripts and hoping they could sell Miramax (?) on this. And in the end New Line got involved and after their pitch, someone in charge went "Well, this is three movies, right?".
They were very lucky. I remember that a lot of the press the movies got before Fellowship came out was the surprise and awe about a whole trilogy being made at once. That was just not a thing that studios used to do before that.
Btw, I think Faramir and his father were way more noble in the books. Faramir wasn’t even tempted by the ring an also very heroic, as far as I remember. His father didn't hate him as much as shown here. Also, Denethor was influenced by one of the same glass speres Saruman had, a Palantir. Gondor seemed to be way stronger in the books, too.
It amazes me how many horrors of the ancient world are defeated in these movies. Shelob is one of the most frightening entities in Middle Earth, and a gardener kills her in order to protect and avenge his friend.
Good thing they got away from the Nameless One.
@@FatGouf Exactly! Like they fought so many things that even Sauron didn't have control of, and they survived! Like that's a super big achievement every time.
Sam doesn’t actually kills her, but I agree, they had to face a fkin Balrog, a children of Ungoliant, the wights of angmar.
Can we talk about how Sam had never even seen a wraith, a giant spider, orcs, goblins, trolls, or characters like Aragorn, yet he met each with the same courage and bravery. A solid dude.
Literally so did Frodo, Merry and Pippin lol, what makes Sam different. ALL four of them saw everything that they saw for the first time and went into everything head on while still being courageous and fighting until the end.
@@BEOMIEPRINCESS Sam was the first to attack each, and Merry and Pip never encountered the giant spider. So yeah. It's all about Sam.
Broke: Frodo is the MVP
Woke: Sam is the MVP
Bespoke: Chris is the MVP for making sure Pat and Rana didn't miss You Bow to No One.
It was so great to watch these movies "with" y'all! I've shown these movies to friends before, and it is no easy feat to get multiple people to get through them all. It's worth it, but it is, as Suraj said, "an arduous journey".
As a big LOTR fan, I am touched by the appreciation shown by those who have seen the movies before, and loved watching Rana, Pat, and Marketa see them for the first time (even though Marketa has seen them once, it still felt like most of it was new for her). I could not stop laughing at all the screaming during the scenes where Gollum throws away the bread and then when he reappears at Mount Doom. And I got hyped with all of you during the epic scenes. I love watching these movies with my best friends, and watching these videos felt a lot like that. Thank you for watching and sharing!!!
A fun fact, the Charge of the Rohirram was said to have been inspired by a famous charge at the Battle of Vienna where the Polish sent thousands of Winged Hussars against the Ottoman Empire forces. They started slow and spread out but as they gain speed they clustered together and just ran straight through the enemy. Not caring about the flanks, just keep charging forward and soon the battle was won within hours. It was said that Tolkien was inspired by this.
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
In b4 all the people saying "TOLKIEN DIDN'T WRITE ALLEGORY" without actually understanding what he meant
fun fact: As far as we know, what you are describing was the biggest cavalry charge in history. 18 thousand horses. That's 3 times as many as the rohirrim army in the movie.
Rohirrim*
And the battle of Vienna was, apparently, how Tolkien's ancestor got his name: "Tolkunn", meaning "foolhardy".
Two fun facts about Sam from Tolkien's correspondence with book fans:
1) Tolkien unambiguously considered Sam the real hero of the story, and based him on the working class soldiers who served with him in WW1, keeping their friends and COs alive through their courage and loyalty.
2) After the books were published and had been out for a while, Tolkien received a letter from a man whose real name was Sam Gamgee. Turns out he was distantly related to the family company who had inadvertently helped inspire the name (they were a brand name of cotton wool products that Tolkien grew up with). The author joked that he was lucky that he had made Sam a heroic character, and dreaded the day he got a letter from a Mr S. Gollum.
One of the most gut wrenching scenes, in my opinion, is when Bilbo asks Frodo about the Ring. It shows that even when it is destroyed the desire for it remains. I think that is the moment Frodo knew he had to leave. The Ring spoiled his entire life. The Shire wasn't saved for him. Some of the best movies ever! Thank you guys for watching!
Tolkien wrote that in because of his experience with war (WW1). Sure, he left the war, but the war never left him.
Frodo's ending always hits me hard. I know others have said this in previous comments, but Tolkien was a veteran of WWI, and specifically the Battle of the Somme, which was... really close to just being Hell. One of the worst battles of the second most destructive conflict in human history. So Frodo coming home to the place he's fought and suffered so hard to get to and not being able to settle into his old life, and unable to relate to the people there who can't comprehend what he's seen and done. It's so obviously a taste of what Tolkien felt coming home and it just hits hard.
33:47 yo, Gimli just chilling in the stewards throne 😂 the level of disrespect skyrockets
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!"
I shit you not, when I saw this in theatres as a 14 year old, everyone in the theatre had tears down their eyes. In fact throughout the entirety of the film everyone was crying.
Spider gets Frodo
Pat: "He dead"
Gollum falls of cliff
Pat: "He dead"
Sams trips on a couple stairs
Pat: "Ye, he ded"
Gotta love the conviction xD
I just learned there were three eagles with Gandalf as he rescued Frodo and Sam. The Third eagle was supposed to rescue Smeagol, but only arrived to find they have failed to save him from the ring.
Thanks for this unexpected release...it's midnight here and I was so bored...what a gift.
The saurons tower explosion was done by just one guy during their holiday break.
His name is Gray Horsfield. That scene later got him a job on Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel, because he's the best at particle simulation in collapsing buildings.
Enjoyed these reactions overall. It was a ring that even Gandalf was afraid to even touch, and Galadriel exerted great effort to resist. These two characters are pretty much demigods. And it would corrupt any other person who took it. The ring was already working on Frodo as they traveled, and it took til Mt. Doom (where its power is the strongest) to finally break him. Eventually it would've broken Sam too, if Sam was the one who held on to it for long. Frodo left because he could no longer find peace in the Shire. He was far too changed, and far too broken for him to return to the normalcy that Sam and the rest achieved.
In the book he was also much more affected by the stab wound from the morgul blade. It gave him pain and on the anniversary he was extremely sick and crippled. So it would’ve kept happening till he died
Well gandalf is more of an angel.
galadriel is nowhere near gandalf in power lol, gandalf took part in the creation of existence itself
How do you enjoy these reactions when they react so shitty at every little thing and make dumb comments. I get it's an reaction but holy shit lord of the rings is not game of thrones
Sam, Aragorn and Theoden, THE most inspirational figures in literature
In first movie when Smeagol was introduced when Frodo said it's pity that Bilbo didn't killed him and Gandalf said "My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over". At the end of the trilogy we can see what was Gollum part, if he was not there ring would not be destroyed.
Im grown man, blue collar, rough around the edges, intimidating to some apparently, but these movies make me ball my eyes out. Sam's speech in The Two Towers and the entire ending to ROTK, especially the "you bow to no one" and "ill carry you" lines get me everytime. I can watch the saddest movies, heart touching videos, and suffer through life sadness with a stone colled face, but i cant make it through these movies with out crying. 😂
I'm just realizing... Frodo didn't know that Gandalf was alive, so when he woke up back in Rivendell and saw Gandalf, he probably thought he died in Mordor or something
Frodo thought Gandalf had died in Moria, he hadn't met him yet as the white wizard. And he doesn't wake up in Rivendell after Mount Doom, but in Gondor.
The cavalry charge still gives me chills. In real life, it wasn't uncommon for thousands of cavalry to be involved in major battles. It must have been terrifying being a foot soldier and seeing hundreds of cavalry charge at you like mad lads.
@@Fordo007 that's not really a fantasy. There's numerous times cavalry charges broke a line of spears. The Battle of Gaugamela is a prime example of how effective a strong cavalry charge can be against simple spear soldiers. A cavalry formation like the flying wedge was extremely effective against basic spear soldiers prior to gunpowder and modern tactics. There's too many battles in history to back that a simple wall of spears wasn't enough to defeat cavalry when that cavalry is used effectively. On a side note, the wedge formation tactic is still used by police departments to disperse rioters in 2021.
As Fantasy accurately pointed out, the game changed when infantry squares and artillery became a thing because they were perfect counters to the hammer of heavy cavalry.
"Frodo deserves it"
Imagine not understanding the basic concept of the characters, theme, and the story... 3 movies in.
no one but Frodo was able to come close to bringing that ring to mount doom. sam held it for like 2 seconds and struggled to hand it over. smeagol lost his whole composure upon seeing it lol. If they could visualize Frodo's purity and strength of heart it would be a gate of steel compared hay huts. Sam was filled with doubt and fear and became the hero he needed to be at the end. Frodo accepted what this journey and his seemingly inevitable demise half way through the first movie. his resolve is literally unmatched. not even gandalf felt he had the strength to resist it. galadriel the queen of the elves the bearer of the ring of power one of the first. BARELY resisted even an OFFER of it. i mean just think about the level of corruption on that ring. and Frodo was so pure of heart it took 4 years of lugging that thing around even to the pits of Mount Doom itself before it broke him.
ALSO CHRIS ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE SO ADAMENT ABOUT IT: Denethor sacrificing him and faramir was at a hall just to the left of the throne rooms gates. they walked down a couple steps from the throne room then turned left at the white tree they were still on the tippy top level. Denethor ran out the door and maybe a football field off the tip. it wasnt that far. the camera work made it seem like they were going down levels deeper into the city.
Rana just exclaiming "it's not gonna fit you!" to that Uruk had me absolutely rolling 🤣🤣🤣
I always thought PJ shortchanged just how devastating the quest was for Frodo on a physical and spiritual level. For example, in the book, on the anniversary of his wounding by the Morgul blade on Weathertop, Frodo would be basically bedridden for several days, not just have a sore shoulder to rub out. The destruction of the Ring left a hollow in his soul that could not be filled. This is why Bilbo and Frodo were allowed to sail to West, to live out the rest of their days with a degree of comfort they'd never find in Middle Earth.
I hate book fans like you, if the movie was the way you wanted it would be the most boring movie in the world.
There are plenty of instances where PJ shows exactly the toll the ring took on Frodo. It’s pretty off putting in a story telling sense if he were to just randomly show Frodo being bedridden. He does a great job of slowly showing the corruption and struggle Frodo is going through. By the time they reach Minas Morgul the ring has damn near incapacitated him. I think it’s an unfair critique to say he shortchanged it when a good majority of the movie, particularly the last half of the return of the king, was devoted to just how beaten down and downtrodden Frodo really was.
Fun fact: For a few minutes there?
Frodo actually became the lord of Mordor there, at the end, when he claimed in in the place it was made.
I feel like the witch king is the most under appreciated villain in any film, since Sauron never actually sat foot on the field of battle the witch king is the only real representation of a major villain on the field and he’s largely overlooked since he dies so quickly.
JRR Tolkien was a linguist by trade. He served in the British army in WWI, in the trenches, and saw some of the absolute worst of that war. He invented the world of Middle Earth and the languages of the Elves and Dwarfs during the war as an escape.
The Hobbit was a story he started as a Christmas Story with his family; children nieces and nephews told on Christmas Eve. Every year, he made a new chapter, so it was created over many years.
Eventually his best friend, Louis Carroll who wrote Alice in Wonderland, told him you should right this all down and publish it.
Btw, Tolkien and Carroll often bemoaned that there were not enough stories written that they found interesting. They eventually formed a book club dedicated to the mission of writing stories they would want to read.
He wrote down The Hobbit, and it was a huge success; a light, children's story of about 300 pages.
The publisher asked him to write another story. Go back to Middle Earth and give us a nice little story again.
But, WWII broke out, and Tolkien felt he needed to write something more that a cute story.
His final story was 1200 pages. He wanted it to be published as just one book, but in post WWII England, paper was rationed. It was illegal to publish such a long story with so much paper.
To get around the paper rationing, the book was divided in 3 parts, released when they were allowed to do so.
The Two Towers ends with Frodo being stung by Sheilab, and everyone thought Frodo died. A few years later, The Return of the King was released. By this time, it was a cultural phenomenon. Graffiti writing "Frodo Lives!" covered London.
Also, Louis Carroll was a short man, a keen gardener, interested in ale and smoking his pipe. Carroll had a very low, booming voice. He could be heard talking a long distance away, and he spoke slowly, thinking of every word before he said it.
Carroll was not only the inspiration for Hobbits, but he was also Treebeard!
Except the Bible, this is the best selling book in history.
Most of this isn't true...
Your thinking of CS Lewis, the writer of Narnia, not Louis Carrol.
"My friends, you bow to no one" ALLWAYS make me cry
When Merry stabbed the Witch King with the special elvish dagger (given by Galadriel), it broke the invulnerability enchantment of the ring upon him, and Eowyn finished the service. It wasn't his fate being taken down by men, but a hobbit.
And a woman. Like in Macbeth.
It's not a special ELVISH dagger. It's a blade that was forged by the Dunedain during the early part of the third age in Arnor when they were at war with the realm of Angmar that the WitchKing ruled. The Hobbits get the Barrow Blades well before they even know who Galadriel is... Actually they get the Barrow Blades before they ever even make it to Bree and meet Aragorn. The movies cut the Old Forest on the border of Buckland, Tom Bombadil, and the Barrow Downs completely out.
@@waynepurcell6058 well you can't add everything completely the novels of Tolkien is like all very detailed and extra side plots and so on many more. There's way too much to add for just three movies and limited time.
the amount of epic battles I had with my pretend armies in my living room when I was a kid
and all thanks to this epic trilogy
"Alright, Dumbledore" 😡😡 Dumbledore wishes he was Gandalf
and once again, mercy, kindness, nobleness, and strong will, portrayed in Frodo by Tolkien, go unnoticed. sad to see people jumping to conclusions and not seeing deeper, being so fast to deal out death and judgement
Chill out bro, it’s a movie. No need to take it personal.
It just goes to show the disregard for integrity these days.
The elves left to the land where they originally came from gandlf took shadowfax on the ship. Frodo and Bilbo were able to go because they were ring bearers Sam was also able to cross as well later on because he had the ring for a short time. Fun fact that's Sean's actual daughter at the end. The books go into tons of details worth reading or listening to if you really love the story.
Well, the elves technically weren't _from_ Valinor. The Ñoldor lived there for a while before coming back to Middle Earth but the majority of elves we see are Sindar who have never seen Valinor. None of them are truly from Valinor though since all of the elves started at the shores of Cuiviénen to the east of Mordor. This knowledge is irrelevant but I read the Silmarillion so I have the right to be That Guy
@@emPtysp4ce yea i didn't remember the names so i just left out the names thanks for the info tho
@@emPtysp4ce you forgot the Vanyar and the Teleri, who also lived in Valinor.
@@witdajuice6763 Yeah but we never see them in LotR unless you count the Sindar as part of the Teleri, so it's really neither here nor there
@@emPtysp4ce Galadriel was born in Valinor though since she was born after the Noldor arrived there which is the reason she glows so much bc the light of the trees has touched her. But you’re correct that the others are Sindarian with Elrond being half-elven.
In the scene with the Rohan charging into battle when filming everyone could hear the rumble of horses running because of all the horses. It gives me goosebumps everything. Also Sean's (Sam) daughter was the little girl who ran to him at the end because they wanted that part to be realistic.
Ok so the reason the Ring didn't instantly melt in the lava is because Sauron was hoping he could tempt Frodo to jump in and save it. Smeagol was so obsessed with it that he didn't even realize he was dying. Frodo thought about letting go of Sam's hand to get the Ring, but Sam's voice brought him back to his senses. As soon as Frodo decides to live, the Ring realizes it can't be saved and slips into the lava and burns.
And Frodo leaves because he had been damage with dark magic by both the ring and the Nazgûl blade. It wasn’t gonna heal living in their world so the only choice he had was to go to the Gray Havens. If he stayed the pain would worsen and spread.
Frodo, Bilbo and Gandalf were allowed to leave for the undying Lands because they were Ring bearers:) btw Sam was allowed to go there aswell when he was older (remember he also was a Ring bearer for a while) and the friendship between gimli and legolas was so strong that they simply didnt give a flying F*ck and legolas just took gimli with him there :D
Still 20 years from premiere these movies are a pinnacle of cinematography. Nothing comes even remotely close.
Sam isnt an 100% pure soul, he mistreated Gollum continously even when he had no reason to do so - Frodo saw him do this multiple times and thats why his doubt sets in when its about Sam vs Gollum, especially since gollum was also intensely loyal to frodo for a while.
Exactly. That is better exemplified in the book when before taking them to the tunnel Gollum is within an inch of regret and Sam then calls him a sneak, which erases all thought of redemption from him.
There was little hope for Gollum, but not no hope, and Sam was wrong to mistreat him.
@DraculaCronqvist That moment was mentioned in Unfinished Tales rather than the Lord of the Rings novel, though. And it came about because the Nazgûl came calling at his door, and he panicked and went to Gandalf to ask for forgiveness and for help, only to find him gone.
Later though, when the Ents have destroyed Isengard and Gandalf comes to parley, he offers him redemption (in very generous terms, it must be said), and again, Saruman comes close to accept. But once more, his pride wins out in the end.
Shut up. SAM > haters him
“You’re the steward of bullshit.” I fucking died 🤣🤣🤣
Great series guys, glad everyone enjoyed it.
I would like to have a live session with the Normies in order to clarify all their doubts about the world of LOTR.
I would wanna join you on that one. I know a lot about the lore of LOTR. So, I might be helpful in this.
When Normies are on a roll with ranting about a movie/series, can’t change their minds.
Lots of really weird Dick swinging in their commentaries, it's really annoying. They seem to be at some sort of state of mind where nuance is either lost upon them or they choose not to see it in place of telling jokes.
What an amazing trilogy, glad you reacted to it! I loved watching along with you and hearing your chat at the end.
Also yes the credits at the end are crazy! Growing up in nz it’s so cool because everyone there has either been involved in the trilogy themselves or knows someone who has. Literally, a close family friend of mine was heavily involved with building the hobbit holes, my music teacher played in the orchestra that recorded the soundtrack, one of the elf hands shown during the last battle scene belongs to my old school teacher … It feels like they literally took almost every kiwi who was free and around at the time and had them be background actors or something
I always thought it was poetic that the ring only sinks after Frodo grabs Sam’s hand. I always chalked that up to Frodo setting it aside, choosing to live and hope and only then did the ring loose it’s hold over him and sink into the lava… just good attention to detail there.
Watching ending scenes and not crying!? I legit cry everytime I hear the words "My Friends, You bow to no one"
Also when Frodo goes to ship to sail for undying lands. Guys you gotta give it up for J.R.R Tolkien. Also thank you Peter Jackson for such wonderful cinematic experience.
Can't wait for Prime's LOTR version. Definitely would re-watch all both trilogies before setting up for Prime's LOTR.
Thank you, the normies!
They needed Grond cause the gate has Numenorian magic and Ground not only a ram but had counter spells.
That scene in the book was sooo badass as the witch king was casting spells on it as it struck three times and right on the third time the gates burst open. He was casting spells each time it hit. Fucking dope tbh
@@mrdavman13 ya, dude. I first read that when I was like 14 I think
This trilogy ended an era of filmmaking. The producers took a HUGE risk because no one really cared about fantasy at the time. Such a colossal production turned into a box-office failure would have easily destroyed them. I don't think a project this big would be made today, and I doubt we'll ever see anything like it in the future.
We're getting Dune, the closest we'll ever get to LotR level and that's going very strong! :D
@@pascalbourelier3463 aren't they having trouble financing the sequel?
@@pascalbourelier3463 The movie itself was pretty underwhelming honestly.
Return of the King was the first "fantasy" film to ever win Best Picture.
Fun fact: Aragorn is 80 making literally anyone that wasnt an elf or long living person a child in his eyes.
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Fun fact about the drivers: My psychology teacher back in secondary school was working odd jobs in New Zealand when the films were being made. He worked as a driver for Elijah Wood (Frodo) and some of the other actors. Elijah had to sit up at the front with him because it was too awkward to get in the back due to the Hobbit feet. The Hobbit feet were really itchy :) One night my former teacher was goofing around with some of the other crew with the fake weapons, and Viggo Mortensen stuck his head outta the window above and asked them to keep the noise down (cause it was like 2am) they felt super bad and shut up immediately lol
Little story fact: The blade that Merry stabbed the witch king with was a special Barrow-blade that he got from another character in the Barrow-downs. It broke his protection spell and actually allowed him to be killed
In case you were unaware, there’s context Denethor’s madness.
He has a Palantír, like Saruman uses to communicate with Sauron, and Sauron has corrupted him and made him go mad.
It wasn't in the movie so it doesn't count.
@@Commander_Shepard. Yikes that’s some faulty logic.
That’s like saying that a chicken egg doesn’t come from a chicken because you didn’t see the chicken lay it.
@@Commander_Shepard. Saruman said Sauron uses the palantir.
@@Dan-B LOTR books and the movies are very different, from the story, lore, and even some character personalities. Trying to explain the movie characters by books is more like explaining superhero movie plots by their comic book counterparts.
He was depressed and cowed but he only truly went mad when he thought Faramir was dead. That was when he fully went off the deep end. He probably would have been fighting on the frontline had Faramir returned safely (Denethor wore his mail armour under his raiment at all times of the day ffs, he was about the business).
I love that in the books Aragon just glares at the Mouth of Sauron and the Mouth panics and shrinks away from him.
The Orcs fighting themselves in the tower makes sense for the super geeks out there.
There are different tribes of Orcs. Sauron had trouble uniting them under one banner because there was some friction between different tribes.
The Tower of Cirith Ungol was occupied by two different tribes and the simple incident was enough to start a fight between them.