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3:26 You can give the hornet a full point there because the Hornet also has a very tiny fuel scoop (0,0022 SCU Hydrogen per Minute for all MK2 Hornets)and can generate fuel, its a hidden stat but it's there. Even if you run out of fuel right bevore a station all you need is to wait 10 min to make the last leg and being able refuel (Happended to one of my org mates, took us 10 min to arrive but the SRV was Broken and the Starfarer was bugged but the internal fuel scoop gatherd enough to get the engine working again, barely but working)
I would like to state and remember, about the DPS, it was confirmed on Spectrum that the F7C being able to equip the F7A ball turret is a BUG. So this is possible exclusively now, but likely, it will not be possible in the future.
Cpt_FoxyLoxy.... you're the best!!! I was one of those commenters. Thank you as always for listening to us and for providing with your insight and kindness! We truly appreciate you!
Get out of my brain... everytime I think about some SC related stuff, you made a video about this topic... crazy. I enjoy all your videos, thx so much!
Both are great! Sabre wins for me. The way it flies and shoots feels sooo good!!!! The way it looks and having two engines no one big one is sexy to me. Plus, it has a smaller profile and more hull hp. Plus the ghost one day will need to keep its stealth top on. I’ll be flying a Sabre for atmosphere/stealth and I’ll fly a Hornet F7A MKII for combat when I want to shred a less than mobile ship. But who knows I also want an Anvil Paladin which will get nerfed so don’t listen to me. Amazing video! o7
Yeah I've been fairly hesitant to get the ghost mk2. And your videos make me feel my decision to not upgrade to the mk2 correct. Thanks man. See ya in the pu
Thank you Foxy! I love you.❤🎉 Now, to be fair, we have to wait and see if Ghost II gets a buff. Also, I think weapons loadout will be more comparable with the Ghost Cap and nose guns mounted instead of the ball turret mounted weapons equipped. But at the end of the day, I hope each fulfills a role and is useful based on the situations that play to each ships design strengths!😃
Finally, thank you! I'm so excited to see these changes come to live, but I appreciate your coverage and content more than I care about these ships existing with a statblock.
Your DPS calculation is not a good comparison if you are counting the Ghost having a turret. It's not it's purpose. How can you compare if you remove the stealth for turrets. Also, you are basically telling me that I can only equip the turret only if I have or can find somebody with the Hornet F7A MkII. Appreciate your work but I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges if you are adding the turret to the ghost which is unfair.
@@Phoenixstorm36 I'm not sure if they fixed it, but the stealth bonus was previously tied to the chassis itself and not the cap. So people would just buy the ghost for the stealth and equip the F7A turret. But in a functional game, you are correct.
You can get them as salvage from missions (granted you need to know which missions.) So, id say they are fair game. But I do agree that it skews values more into the hornets favor. But even without that, the Hornet still wins on dps. Because you can equip 3s4's and one s3 on it, with easily purchased componets. Before the F7A's were available I was doing this with the F7C. The thing that wins it for the Sabre for me, is the range on one of the s2 guns. The Strife Mass Driver. Has a range of 5.5 km. Sure you significantly lower your dps when using it, but you can fire from well beyond your signature, allowing for a full stealth attack. For this the hornet looses, because the S4 wing guns can't be downsized to s2. And all equitable weapons for it require attacking within its visable range. Or you have to just not use its biggest weapons, reducing its damage output significantly. The MK1 does it better here. Maybe when we get real stealth in game, it will be better but for now the sabre wins as a stealth ship. Now if we could just get it so that the Eclipse could attack stealthy, e.g. without warning every enemy with in 20 km that you fired a torpedo. We would be set.
The Ardor is overrated and still suffers the main drawback of the attritions, slow muzzle velocity. For PvE and Larger PvP targets usefull but CF & NDB series is still king in dogfights. Sabre and MK I Hornet alsohave the ability to have access to S2 Weapons that comes really handy with the if you want a more niche setup were dps isn't everything.
@ It’s 2. You can perform space insurance fraud. Unlock ports, take them off. Destroy ship, claim ship attach the 2 andors left on the side, store ship, change something and save ship load out. Then you have 4x. They feel so good, tons of damage! Downside is they are rusted and damaged so it can look strange with a clean looking ship paint
Great content. Suggestion…stealth builds for the more common ships in the verse. For example, I was able to build a pretty effective stealth Cutty Black. Makes me think stealth will get nerfed in the future. I think many people want this for Pyro…especially ships that have greater QT range.
HI Cpt_Foxyloxy, You missed an important stealth fact - in Nav mode the Sabre has an EM of around 5km but the Ghost Mk 2 its around 19km EM! Hardly stealthy lol I can fly around Pyro in a Sabre in NAV mode and still be stealhty and then drop to SCM and at 3km or so fire 4 size 3 Thunderbolts and finish off ( if needed) with 4 size 3 deadbolts on the Sabre. I just wish the Sabre was faster
A friend equipped his Sabre with all class A stealth, and I was in Ghost MK2 with same, and detection of each other, face to face, was 1.2K. Both ships will be deadly for those not patrolling. The MK2 is fragile, so don't get hit! :)
New to the idea of stealth in SC because normally I just try and outsize my the NPCs in guns and shields. Is the idea of stealth to be able to get in, lock missiles, fire and bug out before you're found or to engage from a closer range and be harder to spot during a dogfight?
Sabre gets one more point as well. Because of the stealth modifiers. Sabre has a 40% stealth signature reduction, where the hornet only has 28%. So, not only are its signatures lower, they are reduced more. Im happy cig listened to us on this, becaue a dedicated stealth ship should be more stealthy than one where it was added on after the fact. What bugs me is the coolers, both ships showed they did not have enough cooling in your builds, is there a reason for that?
Just melted my F7C-S MKII. CIG did never mentioned that other than the F7A ball turret that you can only unequip from it, you could not equip any on top of it and it's max DPS is then only 2300 or so. So yeah, it's melted and I excahnged it to a Sabre.
Not at ALL a fair comparison with an F7A ball turret when you can buy it. If you didn't go through the missions, you can't get it. It should be only 4 x S3 vs 2 S4, so the Sabre won that one as well. That makes it 7 to 2.5. Sabre quietly crushes the ghost! Sabre is a such a great flying ship...so uniform and predictable. That said, the F7A is a badass ship! Yeah, you know it is coming...and you are afraid!
Love the videos Foxy, but sadly have to disagree with how you compared the weapons and missiles. Not everyone has a F7A MKII to steal the turret from so using this turret is a bit misleading. Also for the missiles the Rattlers have a very high DPS for what they are so again that is misleading. The load outs should have been stock vs stock imo.
You use the F7A ball turrets all the time which isn't really a fair practice since not everybody has one and I would guess eventually we won't be able to do the whole insurance fraud thing and move those components around. Also, am I wrong here or does the the Ghost Mk II not have the ability to equip a gun under the nose? Or did i just miss you adding that?
For what it's worth, the Sabre has been pretty fun and reasonably balanced for quite a while. The wings get shot off a little too easy, but the quad size 3s are always good, and it flys great
I doubted the Sabre for a very long time, now i picked the sabre up myself since the firebird was such fun but falls short in dogfighting and the sabre is exactly my kind of fun :3
Sabre is the best. Especially the Firebird variant for me. What's the point of stealth if you have to engage in a dogfight anyways? I never understood the hornet ghost at all. Sneak in launch your missiles and get out is how stealth should be.
Firebird is amazing ngl it's missles hit 9/10 times full boost shoot at 1.9 if single missle and 2.1 if all qued you only need 2 missles to take out most fighters. It's beautiful
you should correct that part about weaponary for hornet. although it is true u can use the ball turret for hornet. i will 100% guarantee you that u need the stealth ghost cap to get stealth access. making weapon for hornet ghost having 2 size 4 and 2 size 2 nose guns
I don't know about the damage. You need a turret that you can only get from a ship that is not always available. Not sure that should count. I have the C version of the hornet but with no event....
I don't really understand the use of stealth in game for single pilot fighter, as they comoletely lack the ability to silent kill the opponent: may be stalk a orey in a pirate fleet, but then where are you putting the loot, unless you have a fleet? This being said, it is cool to see the Sabre gets an edge, despite being older.
In a dogfight if your signature is low enough the targeting computer won't pick you up. This means in the Firebird you can volley missiles at people without them being able to get a lock. With the sabre it means you can boost out of eengagement ranges and disappear, allowing you to re-engage with the advantage of surprise.
You are absolutely wrong about the weapons though. You are not comparing a Ghost with a Sabre. You are comparing a F7A to a Sabre… because if you replace the Signature Reduction unit with the ball turret, it ceases to be a Hornet Ghost… please just compare the two ships in their intended role…
I get that stats wise all the Hornets are annoying overpowered, but the Sabre will always be my first and greatest love in the game (aside from the Avenger). Honestly all the hornets need a slight nerf. The Sabre has needed a solid buff for years. So beautiful.
6:23 You could also leave 1 Cooler (even if tuned off it still emits EM) empty because it isn't needed and redundancy isn't a thing in small ships since everything get hits and sits right next to each other.
you cant really compare the two with the caveat of 'if you own this other limited edition ship you can take parts off and put it on here' if the parts arent available to buy in game you shouldnt count them
I'll stick with the Sabre ingame credit buy. Does the job and zero need for min max, this is a casual unbalanced bug fest of a development platform. Zero justification to use real money past a starter pack.
What do you mean no more funding? 😂 Sure, it's lower than previous years, but it's by no means small. The year isn't finished yet and I bet they're relying on a spike for 4.0 with the Guardian and maybe another ship/feature released. It's delusional to think the funding would keep going up and surpassing previous years... it had to hit a ceiling eventually, I mean... people can only pledge for so many ships. It almost seems you want the game to fail? Peace ✌🏻
Great content. Suggestion…stealth builds for the more common ships in the verse. For example, I was able to build a pretty effective stealth Cutty Black. Makes me think stealth will get nerfed in the future. I think many people want this for Pyro…especially ships that have greater QT range.
What paint is that on the Sabre at 1:10?
My best guess would be the Starlight camo
Yes, Starlight paint
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@@tgjaedanexactly
Really illustrates how the sabre was designed with stealth in mind from the start unlike the hornet series
Which is ironic as in real life, the sabre would be one of the least stealthy craft ever designed.
3:26 You can give the hornet a full point there because the Hornet also has a very tiny fuel scoop (0,0022 SCU Hydrogen per Minute for all MK2 Hornets)and can generate fuel, its a hidden stat but it's there. Even if you run out of fuel right bevore a station all you need is to wait 10 min to make the last leg and being able refuel (Happended to one of my org mates, took us 10 min to arrive but the SRV was Broken and the Starfarer was bugged but the internal fuel scoop gatherd enough to get the engine working again, barely but working)
I would like to state and remember, about the DPS, it was confirmed on Spectrum that the F7C being able to equip the F7A ball turret is a BUG. So this is possible exclusively now, but likely, it will not be possible in the future.
Shouldn't be a bug...
And you need a F7A to equip the turret to the Ghost. Not everyone hast one. I think Point should Goes Here to the saber
Cpt_FoxyLoxy.... you're the best!!! I was one of those commenters. Thank you as always for listening to us and for providing with your insight and kindness! We truly appreciate you!
Man you really spoiling us out here with a complete ship comparison, much appreciated
thanks for this comparison! your timing is impeccable
The F-22 raptor is my favorite fighter, so the Sabre wins hands down for me.
I feel like the sabre firebird is more comparable because of the loadout
Get out of my brain... everytime I think about some SC related stuff, you made a video about this topic... crazy. I enjoy all your videos, thx so much!
Both are great! Sabre wins for me. The way it flies and shoots feels sooo good!!!! The way it looks and having two engines no one big one is sexy to me. Plus, it has a smaller profile and more hull hp. Plus the ghost one day will need to keep its stealth top on. I’ll be flying a Sabre for atmosphere/stealth and I’ll fly a Hornet F7A MKII for combat when I want to shred a less than mobile ship. But who knows I also want an Anvil Paladin which will get nerfed so don’t listen to me. Amazing video! o7
Sabre is sexy
Just for clarification, Anvil Paladin or Mirai Guardian? 😉
@ thanks 😅
Anvil Paladin!
The Murai Guardian is exciting as well! Although, the lovely vanguard has soured my dream of being a heavy fighter pilot.
@@PetrosSanctus Guardian if you fly solo and Palading if you have at least 1 friend.
Yeah I've been fairly hesitant to get the ghost mk2. And your videos make me feel my decision to not upgrade to the mk2 correct. Thanks man. See ya in the pu
If you have the orignal Ghost 1 - it's even more stealthy than the Ghost MKII AND the Saber.
Less DPS...
Thank you Foxy! I love you.❤🎉
Now, to be fair, we have to wait and see if Ghost II gets a buff. Also, I think weapons loadout will be more comparable with the Ghost Cap and nose guns mounted instead of the ball turret mounted weapons equipped.
But at the end of the day, I hope each fulfills a role and is useful based on the situations that play to each ships design strengths!😃
Finally, thank you! I'm so excited to see these changes come to live, but I appreciate your coverage and content more than I care about these ships existing with a statblock.
The saber really should have had 2 s4 on the wings and 2 s3 on the front. Its always been weaker dps then the hornet line for no obvious reason.
After reading the title and watching first thirty seconds of the video. First thought: Hurray!
Your DPS calculation is not a good comparison if you are counting the Ghost having a turret. It's not it's purpose. How can you compare if you remove the stealth for turrets. Also, you are basically telling me that I can only equip the turret only if I have or can find somebody with the Hornet F7A MkII.
Appreciate your work but I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges if you are adding the turret to the ghost which is unfair.
Exactly this. Not everyone has a hornet F7A in their hangar.
@@craigt6707 Even if you do, equipping that ball turret for the ghost cap will tarnish your stealth bonus.
@@Phoenixstorm36 I'm not sure if they fixed it, but the stealth bonus was previously tied to the chassis itself and not the cap. So people would just buy the ghost for the stealth and equip the F7A turret. But in a functional game, you are correct.
I think you should stop using F7A turret ball on every contents contain F& mark 2, not everyone has that.
You can get them as salvage from missions (granted you need to know which missions.)
So, id say they are fair game. But I do agree that it skews values more into the hornets favor.
But even without that, the Hornet still wins on dps. Because you can equip 3s4's and one s3 on it, with easily purchased componets. Before the F7A's were available I was doing this with the F7C.
The thing that wins it for the Sabre for me, is the range on one of the s2 guns. The Strife Mass Driver. Has a range of 5.5 km. Sure you significantly lower your dps when using it, but you can fire from well beyond your signature, allowing for a full stealth attack. For this the hornet looses, because the S4 wing guns can't be downsized to s2. And all equitable weapons for it require attacking within its visable range. Or you have to just not use its biggest weapons, reducing its damage output significantly. The MK1 does it better here.
Maybe when we get real stealth in game, it will be better but for now the sabre wins as a stealth ship.
Now if we could just get it so that the Eclipse could attack stealthy, e.g. without warning every enemy with in 20 km that you fired a torpedo. We would be set.
@@FrozenKnight21 The average person is not doing all that.
@@azca. which part?
Great video and explanations. I appreciate the info.
Sabre with Andor S3 x 4 is my baby now!
Agreed!
The Ardor is overrated and still suffers the main drawback of the attritions, slow muzzle velocity. For PvE and Larger PvP targets usefull but CF & NDB series is still king in dogfights. Sabre and MK I Hornet alsohave the ability to have access to S2 Weapons that comes really handy with the if you want a more niche setup were dps isn't everything.
I thought we only got 2x S2 and 2x S3 Andors for save Stanton. How many did we get?? lol
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It’s 2. You can perform space insurance fraud. Unlock ports, take them off. Destroy ship, claim ship attach the 2 andors left on the side, store ship, change something and save ship load out. Then you have 4x. They feel so good, tons of damage! Downside is they are rusted and damaged so it can look strange with a clean looking ship paint
@@Kakeyoro manually detach them from the ship, blow the ship up, reclaim ship, now you have 4
3:36 You should use something that shows the capacitors' capabilities. It can make a big difference.
Great content. Suggestion…stealth builds for the more common ships in the verse. For example, I was able to build a pretty effective stealth Cutty Black. Makes me think stealth will get nerfed in the future. I think many people want this for Pyro…especially ships that have greater QT range.
I just love the Sabre is such a dope ship. Was the first ship I brought in my first time around for IAE like like a year ago
Good comparison, ive used the Sabre a lot, especially in AC.
Thanks ! I needed that ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Why not use the radar detection calculator on SPviewer?
I wonder once control surfaces come into play how good the Sabre (And Vanguard) will be as they have dedicated wings :3
For Science: Distortion and EMPs vs Polaris (turrets and PDCs specifically)
HI Cpt_Foxyloxy, You missed an important stealth fact - in Nav mode the Sabre has an EM of around 5km but the Ghost Mk 2 its around 19km EM! Hardly stealthy lol I can fly around Pyro in a Sabre in NAV mode and still be stealhty and then drop to SCM and at 3km or so fire 4 size 3 Thunderbolts and finish off ( if needed) with 4 size 3 deadbolts on the Sabre. I just wish the Sabre was faster
A friend equipped his Sabre with all class A stealth, and I was in Ghost MK2 with same, and detection of each other, face to face, was 1.2K. Both ships will be deadly for those not patrolling. The MK2 is fragile, so don't get hit! :)
Ghost MK2 Is very deludent, mk1 Is better
for now yes, until hardpoint size matter when armor comes around than we need to look again
New to the idea of stealth in SC because normally I just try and outsize my the NPCs in guns and shields. Is the idea of stealth to be able to get in, lock missiles, fire and bug out before you're found or to engage from a closer range and be harder to spot during a dogfight?
I’ve been waiting for this one
Saber purpose built, ghost mkii stealth paint job
Sabre gets one more point as well. Because of the stealth modifiers. Sabre has a 40% stealth signature reduction, where the hornet only has 28%. So, not only are its signatures lower, they are reduced more. Im happy cig listened to us on this, becaue a dedicated stealth ship should be more stealthy than one where it was added on after the fact.
What bugs me is the coolers, both ships showed they did not have enough cooling in your builds, is there a reason for that?
The Ghost Mk II isn't spawnable in 4.0 yet, so the numbers may well be different. This is a good comparison for 3.24.3.
Just melted my F7C-S MKII. CIG did never mentioned that other than the F7A ball turret that you can only unequip from it, you could not equip any on top of it and it's max DPS is then only 2300 or so.
So yeah, it's melted and I excahnged it to a Sabre.
What is your Sabre paint? we can put paints on the base sabre?
didn’t find anybody showing firebird/peregrin paints on the regular sabre 😢
Sabre - Starlight Paint
Just one paint for the og sabre. Atleast what I could find.
The saber tends to have better speeds in atmo than other ship. Would like to see how the speeds compare to the hornet in atmo
Not at ALL a fair comparison with an F7A ball turret when you can buy it. If you didn't go through the missions, you can't get it. It should be only 4 x S3 vs 2 S4, so the Sabre won that one as well. That makes it 7 to 2.5. Sabre quietly crushes the ghost! Sabre is a such a great flying ship...so uniform and predictable. That said, the F7A is a badass ship! Yeah, you know it is coming...and you are afraid!
Love the videos Foxy, but sadly have to disagree with how you compared the weapons and missiles. Not everyone has a F7A MKII to steal the turret from so using this turret is a bit misleading. Also for the missiles the Rattlers have a very high DPS for what they are so again that is misleading. The load outs should have been stock vs stock imo.
wow, just couple of hours before i was deciding to what to leave, sabre or ghost
What do you think about Vanguard Warden for pyro?
so what you're saying is that CIG will nerf the Sabre's HP
Damn, I wish I watched this video before I melted my Sabre and bought Ghost MKII....
Same 😔
Just remelt.
That paint look good on the comet?
You use the F7A ball turrets all the time which isn't really a fair practice since not everybody has one and I would guess eventually we won't be able to do the whole insurance fraud thing and move those components around. Also, am I wrong here or does the the Ghost Mk II not have the ability to equip a gun under the nose? Or did i just miss you adding that?
The Ghost doesn't get stealth reduction WITHOUT that top turret module.
So it has lower DPS than the Saber or higher signature.
Choices...
Wait we can go faster backward than forward? I have an idea!!
have the saber in buyback, have been considering picker her back up... but the lack of trust in their ability to "balance" gives me pause.
For what it's worth, the Sabre has been pretty fun and reasonably balanced for quite a while.
The wings get shot off a little too easy, but the quad size 3s are always good, and it flys great
I doubted the Sabre for a very long time, now i picked the sabre up myself since the firebird was such fun but falls short in dogfighting and the sabre is exactly my kind of fun :3
Sabre is the best. Especially the Firebird variant for me. What's the point of stealth if you have to engage in a dogfight anyways? I never understood the hornet ghost at all. Sneak in launch your missiles and get out is how stealth should be.
Cool, good work and explanation, now pls bring in the Raven and Firebird too
What is that paint?
Also sabre and firebird please. I kept my Sabre Comet just because I love the look, but I do wonder which is better.
Firebird is amazing ngl it's missles hit 9/10 times full boost shoot at 1.9 if single missle and 2.1 if all qued you only need 2 missles to take out most fighters. It's beautiful
Thanks, thanks and thanks !!!
In my personal testing the sabre won the argument, lets see which conclision foxy gets and perhaps i overlooked something.
you should correct that part about weaponary for hornet. although it is true u can use the ball turret for hornet. i will 100% guarantee you that u need the stealth ghost cap to get stealth access. making weapon for hornet ghost having 2 size 4 and 2 size 2 nose guns
Wish This video was out before I purchased the mk II 😂
The ball turret decreases stealth?
Should decrease it but i'm not certain
Also, most of us don't have access to the Turret of the F7A, which scks a ton and makes the f7C less powerfull
I planned on building a squad consisting of a f7c mk2, sabre, sabre firebird and f8c.
I don't know about the damage. You need a turret that you can only get from a ship that is not always available. Not sure that should count.
I have the C version of the hornet but with no event....
I don't really understand the use of stealth in game for single pilot fighter, as they comoletely lack the ability to silent kill the opponent: may be stalk a orey in a pirate fleet, but then where are you putting the loot, unless you have a fleet?
This being said, it is cool to see the Sabre gets an edge, despite being older.
Stealth game is best for bounting.....
In a dogfight if your signature is low enough the targeting computer won't pick you up.
This means in the Firebird you can volley missiles at people without them being able to get a lock. With the sabre it means you can boost out of eengagement ranges and disappear, allowing you to re-engage with the advantage of surprise.
i just had this issue, i enedd up with the hornet ghost over the sabre
You are absolutely wrong about the weapons though. You are not comparing a Ghost with a Sabre. You are comparing a F7A to a Sabre… because if you replace the Signature Reduction unit with the ball turret, it ceases to be a Hornet Ghost… please just compare the two ships in their intended role…
I get that stats wise all the Hornets are annoying overpowered, but the Sabre will always be my first and greatest love in the game (aside from the Avenger). Honestly all the hornets need a slight nerf. The Sabre has needed a solid buff for years. So beautiful.
Don't need, buff instead!
6:23 You could also leave 1 Cooler (even if tuned off it still emits EM) empty because it isn't needed and redundancy isn't a thing in small ships since everything get hits and sits right next to each other.
What are you flying in this video?
Sabre
@cpt_foxyloxy which one?
@@Ender_Consolidated its the base sabre, the comet has a digi camo pattern that you can see through the paint
what sabre skin is this?
Starlight most likely at least on the Sabre comet it looks very similar to that.
you cant really compare the two with the caveat of 'if you own this other limited edition ship you can take parts off and put it on here' if the parts arent available to buy in game you shouldnt count them
ghost mk1 is stealthier than mk2
In current state Sabre much better than ghost cause more stealthy and have more ability hit and run.
for me I personlly like the saber more but thats my opinion
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thankyou
Love the sabre
New hornets are lackluster stat wise
Sabre or Ghost? Don't bother with either, not until the alpha turns into a released game.
o7
I'll stick with the Sabre ingame credit buy. Does the job and zero need for min max, this is a casual unbalanced bug fest of a development platform. Zero justification to use real money past a starter pack.
This game is dead, no more funding. Suck that MM
What do you mean no more funding? 😂
Sure, it's lower than previous years, but it's by no means small.
The year isn't finished yet and I bet they're relying on a spike for 4.0 with the Guardian and maybe another ship/feature released. It's delusional to think the funding would keep going up and surpassing previous years... it had to hit a ceiling eventually, I mean... people can only pledge for so many ships.
It almost seems you want the game to fail?
Peace ✌🏻
@PetrosSanctus I gave up after MM and this year. Played 9 year and was optimistic. No more.
Great content. Suggestion…stealth builds for the more common ships in the verse. For example, I was able to build a pretty effective stealth Cutty Black. Makes me think stealth will get nerfed in the future. I think many people want this for Pyro…especially ships that have greater QT range.