This is by far the best video on how to take off and put back on this crazy switch. Thank you for such clarity. Saved me some serious $$$. Keep up the great vids.
Awesome to see your channel growing. Great content so far !! Some informational which is cool too see . Looking forward to the next LOCKED ON 4x4 video !!!
Wow, so good to find your video. Will order the xyz switch and replace mine. No mechanic wants to do it for me in Port Hedland, Western Australia. Half way through a big trip Sydney return, it has to be repaired asap.
Sweet Land Rover video....Thanks !.... Nice clear view of Exact parts worked on and good clear explanations, Greetings from West Wales !...Land Rover Freedom Machines Forever !!
Please be aware M + S lights are indication for other issues as well. I have had these lights with the Crank position sensor previously, as well as with lack of battery charge. Cheers
Good job and thanks for the vid! It looks like a tight bugger to get at but that’s the Rover way! The ABS shuttle should make your three amigos go away, too. BTW, Landys are all metric now and have been for a while. Your tool kit should work fine for most of your general maintenance. Also, get a box of nitrile gloves. Keeps the nasty chemicals off your skin and can save a skinned knuckle or two. Cheers
Thank you! Yes I do stand corrected that it is in fact metric however I had been previously mis-informed otherwise and this is the first vehicle I have really worked on. Still lots to learn :)
What great video! My M&S lights just started flashing on me yesterday for the first time and I'm already looking into the repair. Your video is the most straight forward and helpful that I have seen anywhere so thanks in advance! One question: you mentioned that you had already taken the part off to rebuild clean; did that help at all? These switches go for $600USD new and at least $150USD used and I am not sure how trustworthy the used ones are. Thinking about trying trying the rebuild first since I am pretty sure the AC condensation is the culprit. Thanks!
Thank you! For me, taking the switch apart and cleaning it did not help at all unfortunately. The contacts inside were really worn out. However, for the cost of the new part, it was definitely worth trying. I hope you have better luck with it than I did! Personally I went for a new one because I wanted a long-term fix rather than a used one with previous water exposure. Cheers
So glad you put this on TH-cam, I’ll be checking Mine this week, so hoping the forecast rain stays off a while, hope I can get away with cleaning it as iv just checked the price for new (£390) that’s nearly 4 days wage, :(
Well I have no ramps or axle stands and it’s to tight to squeeze under to work, did you have to move the exhaust as mine is blocking access to xyz switch. :( and it’s raining heavy. Booking in to garage :(
@@hedgehog1995 no I didn't have to move the exhaust. My disco has a 3" lift also, so plenty of room for me to work under. Hope you can get it sorted :)
Great video, I followed these instructions and swapped it myself.... very inspiring. I thought to myself if a bloody Kiwi sheila can swap her's lying on the ground, while video taping it aaaannnnndddd making jokes! I need to man up and have a go..... so I did and it was just as you described.... Except right at the end with the fine tuning of tightening the bolts P, R, N all fine then Drive and 123 all flashing. Finally tightened it all up and started the car and low and behold..... all good. Thanks!! JB
Well done you, it looked like a job for the ratchet spanner’s felt it when the nuts fell, Land Rover do have the most horrid tight spots for these repairs, got to love em, 👍
Just took it out and cleaned the contacts and also disassembled the xyz switch. I cleaned it with electrical cleaner and added dielectric grease. I put it back together but still the same. I didn’t have anyone to help me adjust it at the end to see. Do you suggest to buy a new one?
Mine seems to have fixed itself, maybe damp in system and dried out? Hoping garage will get a diagnostic answer? Swoped switch anyway running like a dream.
Mine did not, however I had previously removed the muffler. If the exhaust is in the way, it should be able to be unbolted in sections and dropped down to allow for extra room :)
As general advice. When M + S flashes it is due to the following: Step 1 validate that the battery is charged. Step 2: Replace CKP. if the problem continues Step 3 or final change XYZ
I just recently had to replace my ignition cylinder. I also removed the center console and my carpets. Upon reinstalling everything and firing the truck up for the first time I now have m and s lights flashing. No other issues. Still runs and drives but wondering if it is okay to still be an everyday driver while I wait to dig into it more?
Just did this job only to have it still do the same thing. Pulled the center console out and mice had chewed and destroyed the wires going to the transfer case and transmission. Fixed the wires and all is good again. Little bastards
Hi, I also like to replace the xyz switch for my 2004 D2 td5, but found a big exhaust pipe section under the switch, I don't see you have it, how did you put away it?
Hi, I was able to work around my exhaust no worries, but had a muffler removed in the past. You may be able to unbolt the exhaust where sections join to give yourself more space. All the best!
@@lockedon4x4 Well done sorting out the 3 Amigos! That's a really good looking Discovery you have - just a nice lift and not-too-big tyres. Possible to have the details? Thanks
Oh that sounds frustrating! Personally I'd try some CRC or WD40 first. If that doesn't work, I'd try to carefully heat it up without melting any other components. Hope this helps!
The light in the cluster that is under the red oil light, what is it meant to show... I bought one and it had black tape over it and I can't find out what it's hiding 🙄
@@lockedon4x4 yes, that seems to be it. Mine has been covered up.. seems all ok when I'm driving and I have no other lights that are on. I can live with that 😂 thanks for the reply 👍
Could be, however M and S lights flash for other issues also; battery/voltage, Crank position sensor. I would suggest getting someone to scan it if possible, and/or do a bit of research, browse forums. Cheers
Mine only drives in reverse and flashes the M& S lights but won’t drive forward and lacks power I’m wondering if this will let my disco drives forward 🤔
Thanks for being direct and getting stuck right into it . No egotistical introduction or nanny state warnings , really refreshing .
This is by far the best video on how to take off and put back on this crazy switch. Thank you for such clarity. Saved me some serious $$$. Keep up the great vids.
Cheers!!
Camera view from underneath was 👌. Appreciate the effort in doing that. Saved headaches.
Fantastic filming, thanks for setting the camera up to show all this well.
Awesome to see your channel growing. Great content so far !! Some informational which is cool too see . Looking forward to the next LOCKED ON 4x4 video !!!
Thanks for the support! That really means a lot :)
My Disco did the same thing, replaced mine with a used one, 200 bones on eBay, once’s replaced it took right off! Thanks for your video!
Awesome video. Replaced my switch , still had green lights . But now I know I need to adjust it like yall did . Thank you for this video 🤗🤗
Wow, so good to find your video. Will order the xyz switch and replace mine. No mechanic wants to do it for me in Port Hedland, Western Australia. Half way through a big trip Sydney return, it has to be repaired asap.
All the best!
Sweet Land Rover video....Thanks !.... Nice clear view of Exact parts worked on and good clear explanations, Greetings from West Wales !...Land Rover Freedom Machines Forever !!
Great video, thank you. Spraying the switch with the silicone will protect it from condensation on the outside.
Great video, thanks for sharing it. It will be very helpful when my time comes 😂
Ah, thanks for posting! Just had my first prewarning of these two lights yesterday. Guess i better order a new switch so im prepared! 😊
Please be aware M + S lights are indication for other issues as well. I have had these lights with the Crank position sensor previously, as well as with lack of battery charge.
Cheers
You made it look so easy! It was not that easy for me! 😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing.
Cheers!
Well done .........made it look easy. I was worried about tackling this job but happy to try now.
Many thanks for this. It’s exactly what I am going to have to do. Cheers
Good job and thanks for the vid! It looks like a tight bugger to get at but that’s the Rover way! The ABS shuttle should make your three amigos go away, too.
BTW, Landys are all metric now and have been for a while. Your tool kit should work fine for most of your general maintenance. Also, get a box of nitrile gloves. Keeps the nasty chemicals off your skin and can save a skinned knuckle or two.
Cheers
Thank you!
Yes I do stand corrected that it is in fact metric however I had been previously mis-informed otherwise and this is the first vehicle I have really worked on. Still lots to learn :)
Everything's metric except for the propshaft bolts helpfully. Well worth getting the 9/16" extension that's made for the job.
What great video! My M&S lights just started flashing on me yesterday for the first time and I'm already looking into the repair. Your video is the most straight forward and helpful that I have seen anywhere so thanks in advance! One question: you mentioned that you had already taken the part off to rebuild clean; did that help at all? These switches go for $600USD new and at least $150USD used and I am not sure how trustworthy the used ones are. Thinking about trying trying the rebuild first since I am pretty sure the AC condensation is the culprit. Thanks!
Thank you!
For me, taking the switch apart and cleaning it did not help at all unfortunately. The contacts inside were really worn out. However, for the cost of the new part, it was definitely worth trying. I hope you have better luck with it than I did!
Personally I went for a new one because I wanted a long-term fix rather than a used one with previous water exposure.
Cheers
Thankyou sm for posting this I've literally found no other videos like this with the removal, really appreciate it 👍🏻
Cheers!
So glad you put this on TH-cam, I’ll be checking Mine this week, so hoping the forecast rain stays off a while, hope I can get away with cleaning it as iv just checked the price for new (£390) that’s nearly 4 days wage, :(
🤞🤞 They are quite pricey new. I paid $1014.53 NZD, which is apparently roughly £530. Best of luck!
Well I have no ramps or axle stands and it’s to tight to squeeze under to work, did you have to move the exhaust as mine is blocking access to xyz switch. :( and it’s raining heavy. Booking in to garage :(
@@hedgehog1995 no I didn't have to move the exhaust. My disco has a 3" lift also, so plenty of room for me to work under. Hope you can get it sorted :)
About to do this same job on mine, thanks for the video!
I am about to start on my car. Same issue. Thanks for the video
Excellent video! Thank you much.
thanks for the video..gonna replace my one when its time
sounds like fashioning a pipe extension from the AC drain on that side to route the water drips away from this are warranted.
Love it.
Brilliant.
Thank you for posting this!
Great video, I followed these instructions and swapped it myself.... very inspiring. I thought to myself if a bloody Kiwi sheila can swap her's lying on the ground, while video taping it aaaannnnndddd making jokes! I need to man up and have a go..... so I did and it was just as you described.... Except right at the end with the fine tuning of tightening the bolts P, R, N all fine then Drive and 123 all flashing. Finally tightened it all up and started the car and low and behold..... all good. Thanks!! JB
Cheers!
Thank you for the video hopefully this is my problem
Well done you, it looked like a job for the ratchet spanner’s felt it when the nuts fell, Land Rover do have the most horrid tight spots for these repairs, got to love em, 👍
Cheers. Definitely the job that put ratchet spanners on the wishlist haha 😂
Done a few of these..one tip if you.ve xl hands like mine drop exhaust from manifold gives you more room..👍
Great hob and info 👌👍
Thank you for the post
Girl I need you in my life 😉 seriously thank you for the video its very good 👍🏻
Just took it out and cleaned the contacts and also disassembled the xyz switch. I cleaned it with electrical cleaner and added dielectric grease. I put it back together but still the same. I didn’t have anyone to help me adjust it at the end to see. Do you suggest to buy a new one?
Personally yes, then at least you know it should be sorted to last 🤞
Is yours black like in this video, or a white one? I've heard the white ones can be 'rebuilt' inside
@@lockedon4x4 black! It’s a 99 disco project that I picked up for $350! I’ve had two other discos never encountered this before!
Great video, many thanks an kind regards from noth germany.
Vielen Dank!
Awesomeness , i think i have this problem , will attemp it today
Great Job right there
Thank you
Thanks great vid 👍
Cheers, much appreciated!
Did you guys ever reroute the AC condenser line to avoid this happening to the new one? Super vid btw!
We did not. At the time this was my daily vehicle, so the goal was get it running again asap and worry about the AC line later.
Thanks! :)
Mine seems to have fixed itself, maybe damp in system and dried out? Hoping garage will get a diagnostic answer?
Swoped switch anyway running like a dream.
Doesn’t look like it but did the exhaust get too much in the way ?
Mine did not, however I had previously removed the muffler. If the exhaust is in the way, it should be able to be unbolted in sections and dropped down to allow for extra room :)
As general advice. When M + S flashes it is due to the following: Step 1 validate that the battery is charged. Step 2: Replace CKP. if the problem continues Step 3 or final change XYZ
CKP?
Only the 3 amigo's left ! common problem! but nothing to worry about!
I just recently had to replace my ignition cylinder. I also removed the center console and my carpets. Upon reinstalling everything and firing the truck up for the first time I now have m and s lights flashing. No other issues. Still runs and drives but wondering if it is okay to still be an everyday driver while I wait to dig into it more?
Thanks for the video. I have a question. When you had this error, did the alarm/ door locks function normally? Thanks again
Hi, Yes door locks functioned normally. Had no issues like that at all
It may be mentioned below - but did you remove the exhaust pipe first?
Hi, no the exhaust pipe was not moved or removed at all for this.
Cheers :)
Thank.
Just did this job only to have it still do the same thing. Pulled the center console out and mice had chewed and destroyed the wires going to the transfer case and transmission. Fixed the wires and all is good again. Little bastards
Hi, I also like to replace the xyz switch for my 2004 D2 td5, but found a big exhaust pipe section under the switch, I don't see you have it, how did you put away it?
Hi, I was able to work around my exhaust no worries, but had a muffler removed in the past. You may be able to unbolt the exhaust where sections join to give yourself more space. All the best!
How the feck are you getting your hands in there! Would yours attempt to start / crank|? Mine cranks but wont start. Removing XYZ is my last resort
Hi, yes, it would crank, and when it was running, it would be in limp mode
Really great video!! Thanks. Now you just have to fix the 3 Amigos!!! Ha ha and good luck.
Haha cheers! 3 amigos have been given the boot now too! Was only an ABS speed sensor thank fully!
@@lockedon4x4 Well done sorting out the 3 Amigos! That's a really good looking Discovery you have - just a nice lift and not-too-big tyres. Possible to have the details? Thanks
2:28 is that thing that connects to the grar nob?
Pretty sure that I need to do this
Hope this video helps!
@@lockedon4x4 yes it did thanks
Respect girl . Thats a crap job . Nice to see a girl share the same passion
Any way to mute the music
No sorry! Is the music too loud? I tried not to drown myself out with it so any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Fuck my life I broke all the bolts
You a fantastic girl change position sensor your hands is gold .
How does one get the top bolt off if it's stuck? I'm currently having that issue. Any thoughts?
Oh that sounds frustrating! Personally I'd try some CRC or WD40 first. If that doesn't work, I'd try to carefully heat it up without melting any other components. Hope this helps!
@@lockedon4x4 what do you recommend me heating it up with? I have sprayed it and it's currently soaking right now.
@@roverguy23 some form of gas torch if you have one, with a blue flame
Can the xzy switch cause the disco to go into limp mode
Yes, did so for me also
The light in the cluster that is under the red oil light, what is it meant to show... I bought one and it had black tape over it and I can't find out what it's hiding 🙄
Assuming you mean the lights in the dash, I believe that would be for the A.C.E (active cornering enhancement)
@@lockedon4x4 yes, that seems to be it. Mine has been covered up.. seems all ok when I'm driving and I have no other lights that are on. I can live with that 😂 thanks for the reply 👍
Up the New Zealand content .
Cheers!
My lights are flashing but won't move in drive or reverse . Could this be the same problem? Please help .
Could be, however M and S lights flash for other issues also; battery/voltage, Crank position sensor.
I would suggest getting someone to scan it if possible, and/or do a bit of research, browse forums.
Cheers
Thank you for responding so fast n the info. Cheers back
@@moosepilot3145 did you get if figured out?
I wish I had your lady hands to do this job my meat hooks barely fit, great vid tho thanks heaps.
This can't be a Land Rover, There's no oil all over the bottom. ;)
Yet 😂
If only my bolts were not rusted as hell. 2 days of spraying rust remover.... sigh.... You made it look way too easy.
That music was annoying. Hard to focus on what you were doing to be honest,
Weird design to inform rhe computer at what position is the gear , nobody knows what engineers are thinking 😅
Mine only drives in reverse and flashes the M& S lights but won’t drive forward and lacks power I’m wondering if this will let my disco drives forward 🤔