The Philosophy of Berlin School Synthesizer Music (also known as Space and Cosmic Rock)
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- Ralph Baumgartl is talking to the band "Thau" (Bernd-Miachel Land and Frank Tischer) about the philosophy and their understanding of the "Berlin School" musical heritage. "Berlin School of Electronic Music" is sometimes also referred to as "Space Rock" and "Cosmic Rock". It's a music genre that was created in the 1970's by german musicians such as Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream.
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I'll also mention that the electronic music of the '70s, Berlin included, were some of the only styles of music ever created that had almost no older musical styles to draw from. The technology was so brand new that there were no existing styles, musical forms, or whatever, that could be applied to it. New styles had to be invented from the ground up. They were styles spontaneously brought into being by experimentation and the rapid changes in music technology. Rap, hip hop, punk, new wave, (English) ska, reggae, and the whole field of electronic dance music genres that followed all drew off older forms. But the early electronic pioneers didn't have that luxury. Rather than ask "why should we keep referencing old styles from bygone eras," I think the more appropriate question is "How can we possibly NOT reference these styles?" Try to invent a new style when you're using the same old tools and see how far you get. ];P
+emdotambient Hello emdotambient, your comment clarifies some of the ongoing disputes and challenges among musicians to create some new kind of music. I totally agree with you that this is an almost impossible task when using traditional music instruments or new musical gear that was influenced by them. Your comment is so straight to the point that I would like to read it out in one of my forthcoming Vlogs. Kind regards, Ralph
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Feel free to use it. I would be honored.
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Feel free to use it. I would be honored.
+emdotambient Thank you !
This is just not true, they were influenced by experimental electronic music, classical music and rock. Tangerine Dream in particular were influenced by Ligeti and Pink Floyd.
You guys don't have to explain or defend your music to anyone. People who like the music will like and appreciate it.
Hello Pete,
thank you very much for your supportive words. I personally don't consider it a defense, but rather a clarification. In the Q&A video (link beIow) I am mentioning a viewer comment, which clarifies the argument surrounding Berlin School Music in a concise and brilliant way.
th-cam.com/video/CR7jS8T3LFg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks again for watching and commenting. Greetings Ralph
We enjoy talking about it.
"I play it because I like it" is the best reason ever!
Great video (even all these years later) guys!
Thank you so much for watching this "old" video. Berlin School has a special place my heart, as a matter of fact I am just working on a new video related to Berlin School Electronic Music. Greetings, Ralph
My favorite style of music. Well done.
Hello Pete, thanks for watching. Glad to learn that you like Berlin School of Electronic Music. Guess you've come to the right channel ;-) Best regards, Ralph
I think the Blues and Berlin are a good analogy. What is truly amazing is the fact that musical styles evolve and travel regardless of boarders and language.
That's a very interesting analogy. I have never thought of this before, but now that you mention it, it just makes sense 🙂 Thanks for sharing this! Cheers, Ralph
@RalphBaumgartl I would actually define Berlin as a Movement, quite similar to the Abstract Expressionist in Movemnt in the visual arts that took place in New York. Both were an effort to create art that was unique and independent of the classical era, which dominated the scene at the time. Both were the result of European artists looking to earn a living with a classical education in a contemporary period. Neither New York or Berlin were accepted by the status quo as " real" art or music at the time. Today, the music of TD is firmly embedded in the soundtracks of movies like Risky Business and considered to be virtually iconic.
Old School Berlin is a beautifull style that earned in the musicworld. Just like classics from Straus or Bach. It's timeless. So keep the good work and play just you like.
Thank you so much for watching this somewhat "older" video, proving that Berlin School is timeless....
I used to play bass in an old-school Country/Western Swing band. Some of the songs we played were written in the 1930s! While we actually did play some gigs in a few museums (lol), we also played nightclubs, art galleries, private parties, farmer's markets, and even one time at a women's prison. It doesn't matter how far back the style goes. If you play what you love and play it well, people will listen.
Hello Dave, that's very true. When artist play the music they love, the listeners will feel a unique vibe and energy. Greetings, Ralph
I came here for the philosophy, but stayed for the music! Amazing work!
Glad to hear that! Many thanks for watching! Cheers, Ralph
That is the most awesome synthesizer studio I’ve ever seen! You guys are great!
Hi Gene, it's Bernie's Studio. And yes, it's quite a treat ;-)
Berlin school, techno pop, new wave, Italo Disco, ethereal wave, coldwave, darkwave, etc. - best music genres ever made!
Right on! 👍
@RalphBaumgartl Berlin School and technopop are the easiest ones.
@@ymotechnopopfan That depends on what your personal genre preferences is 😉
Berlin School music lives! I remember being in Germany in the early 80's when I was a kid and heard the electronic music of the time there and have always been inspired by that memory! You guys are awesome! I would love to see an episode on creating that style with limited resources. As much as I would like to, I don't have a room to devote to housing racks of vintage and non vintage synths, plus my wife would kill me.
+Phil Guzzo Hi Phil, thanks for watching. I totally understand! Convincing your wife will be quite a challenge ;-) But nevertheless give it a try, at least you will develop your skills in diplomacy ;-) I am currently dabbling to create Berlin School with a resource low equipment setup. Hope I can post some videos soon. Thanks again for stopping by and watching my channel. Cheers Ralph
@Gordon Rayan - Wishing you lots of fun on your musical journey 👍😃
Thanks to ipad you don't have to. While the actual synths would be a blast to muck about with, thank God that there is an app for almost any noise you could ever want in your arsenal.
Tangerine Dream changed my Life.
Many thanks for watching. For me it was Klaus Schulze who changed my life ;-) Greetings, Ralph
I found Tangerine Dream through this channel. Klaus Schulze is next on my discovery list !
I am glad to learn that you've discovered TD through my channel. If you have the time, you may want to listen to this track in which we played music in TD Berlin School style:
th-cam.com/video/bUUfg5r6ijg/w-d-xo.html
When you start listening to Klaus Schulze please make sure you also listen to his Albums Timewind, Moondawn and X! I have also recorded an interview with Klaus Schulze's sound engineer. The interview is in German but you may want to give it a try:
th-cam.com/video/OA2vgmHI0tM/w-d-xo.html
Greetings, Ralph
Honestly, would anyone ever question you if your music was described as classical, jazz or blues? No. Berlin School is a relevant term today more than ever, with its own unique combination of elements and style that is widely understood. Keep up the great work, live your music and these videos. Very informative! Respect and peace from Somerset, England :)
Thanks a lot for watching and for taking the time to leave your comment. I couldn't agree more with you, Berlin School is still relevant (as much as other music genres). Anything goes and is possible in and through art. Best regards from Germany to the UK! Cheers, Ralph
Bernie was right. TD and their contemporaries were the godfathers of electronic music and provided the foundation for everything we hear today and it was very arrogant of that commenter to dismiss it. I first saw TD as a skinny youth here in the UK in 1973 and a number of times since. I was spellbound and it literally changed my musical tastes overnight. Thank you so much for keeping the spirit and the art alive and thanks for sharing your thoughts for we English speakers. Love the T shirt Bernie.
Hello Peter, thank you so much for this appreciative and supportive comment! Cheers, Ralph
thank you so very much. Inspiring and right on. Great stuff.
Thank you very much for watching! Glad you got some inspiration out of it! Greetings Ralph
Wow! Sehr sehr interessant! Schön den Kanal gefunden zu haben!
+Baptist Friedrich
Die Freude ist ganz meinerseits...ich bin auch froh Dich in den Weiten von TH-cam gefunden zu haben ;-) Beste Grüsse, Ralph
WOW!! Great job guys ! Keep up the great work.
+misterX1964 Thank you very much for your kind words. There is more to come, we just got started ;-) Thanks again for watching! It's highly appreciated! Cheers Ralph
Awesome!..! as always +Ralph Baumgartl . Like!
+Ant GM Thank very much for watching! Have a great weekend! Cheers Ralph
Loved seeing the Korg Micro-Preset; my first synth back in 1980!
These old Korg Synths from the 1970s are very cool in their own unique way. A friend of mine used to have a Korg Sigma Preset Synth. A pretty rare yet interesting synthesizer ;-) Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day, Ralph
Thanks for this great video!
Many thanks for watching! I appreciate your support. Greetings, Ralph
I love all Kosmische music. Berlin and Dusseldorf schools, both. You guys are great. Keep up the super work.
Thank you Chris! Appreciate your support! Greetings, Ralph
Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Will just do that...Greetings, Ralph
Wonderful explanation of Berlin Synth School! I found out about Kraftwerk when I was a kid and always found it interesting, Autobahn pushed me to start composing myself. Even though I am now doing something different (along the lines of Hans Zimmer and Vangelis), without Space Rock I probably wouldn't have started. Thanks for the video!
Thank you 🙏 I am glad you got something out of my video. Wish you a great artist journey with your music. Have a nice and creative weekend, Ralph
Very well done video. Love Berlin School style and elements of which, is where my own music explorations in space find me traveling. Subscribed! Peace! Very nice studio.
+Robert I Hello Robert, thank you very much for watching and subscribing! Glad you you like it! Berlin School of Electronic Music is an important topic on my TH-cam channel. Thanks again for subscribing and peace to you too :-) Greetings Ralph
sehr informatives und unterhaltsames Video mit Klasse Sounds!
Besonders erfreulich, mal gestandene Männer aus dieser Zeit an (richtigen;-) Instrumenten zu sehen und nicht nur Kids die wild rumschrauben. War schon immer von Floyd und Progrock beeinflusst und bin erst vor wenigen Monaten auf Schulze und TG gestoßen. Und wohl deswegen hier gelandet .
Schön, dass auch zwischendrin deutsch gesprochen wird in dieser Klasse der Berliner Schule :-)
Weiter so!
+VolcaRock
Vielen vielen Dank für das tolle Feedack. Das sind genau die Kommentare, die ich mir wünsche und mir zeigen, dass diese Art meines Musik Vlogs auch einen Nerv trifft. Ich selbst bin ein Teenager der 80er, ich habe aber auch die ganzen Progressive Rock Bands der 70er durchgehört neben den ganzen Elektronikern der 70er. Nochmals vielen Dank fürs Anschauen und den super Kommentar. Beste Grüsse, Ralph
Keep doing what you do and never mind what others say..if they don't appreciate what you do, then that's their loss. ;- )
Hello Dank, thank you for your kinds words. It's a free world; people can always move on to other creators on the the internet where their needs might be filled. I always encourage people to keep on searching rather than to complain and rant ;-) Have a great day, Ralph
Great jam!
Thanks
"Wish I had beer"! That made me laugh!
I remember that comment to the previous video, and thought it was daft. Thau make the music that they like to hear, I make delta blues that I like to hear, I know guys who play 1970s-style rock, and what's the problem? If we are currently making music whose genre had its heyday in the 1970s or 1930s, who cares?
If the commenter wants to hear something completely new, he can find it on the Internet, or buy some gear and make it himself. Berni and Frank make lovely music that they shouldn't have to defend or justify. I like it and so do plenty of other people.
+Two-Dog James Hello James, thanks for writing this supportive comment. As a matter of fact I was telling Bernie and Frank about your british style of playing the Blues, after Frank mentioned Blues Musician in the Vlog. Thanks a lot for watching. Greetings from Germany, Ralph
You were?! Blimey, thanks, Ralph! If you'd like to tell them how much I like their music, that would be okay.
Two-Dog James
Hi James, if you allow me then I would like to refer to your "Wash me" video in one of my next Vlogs as an example for a fresh and modern Blues interpretation with a british flavour. What do you say? I want to start to Vlog a bit more about Guitar music anyway. Check out my latest Vlog here th-cam.com/video/ZyiV7D74JUI/w-d-xo.html
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog That would be great, Ralph, and thank you for thinking of me. By the way, James is my last name. My first name is Stephen. Two-Dog is just my nom de guerre, because I've discovered that there are many musicians out there named Stephen James, and I would be lost in the shuffle, so to speak.
Please do mention that I am a Christian musician, if only because these songs constitute my ministry.
So, if you need any more background, I'll be happy to answer them.
+Two-Dog James Hello Stephen, I am Ralph ;-) I very happy to mention that you are a Christian Musician. I always respect artist who express their spirituality, because spirituality is a matter that is very important to me as well. Before I refer to your video, I will get in touch with you. Could you please send me your email address via my TH-cam Business Mail. You'll find it on this page th-cam.com/users/VFXdesignerabout
Very good! As a newcomer to the world of synths, I began to study electronic music. When I stumbled upon the Berlin School of electronic music, I was fascinated. I come from a rock background, but am a fan of many styles of music. I even have an improv that was influenced by the Berlin school on my TH-cam channel. It's great to see where you all are taking it and I am certainly a fan. Danke!
+Brian Kupferschmid Hello Brian, many thanks for watching my Vlog and giving me feedback. I just went over to your TH-cam Channel. You've got some interesting music there. I really like the "Drone Improv". Greetings from Germany, Ralph
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog thank you. Hearing the music Frank and Bernie create is inspiring and the insight and knowledge you all share is very helpful. Once again, thank you for viewing my videos. I'll have more in the future. The studio is amazing and I know I'd be like a kid in a candy store.
Brian Kupferschmid
There is a german proverb: "Im Manne lebt das Kind weiter"
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Ja, das ist wahr.
Brian Kupferschmid
To all men out there: let's just embrace that ;-)
love it mate keep on what youre doing my freind from the uk loved the mention of p floyd
+234cheech Thank you very much for watching. I am very glad you like it! It’s impossible NOT to mention Pink Floyd every now and then when you are running a TH-cam channel about electronic music ;-)
In our video on the EMS synthesizers I mention Pink Floyd several times: th-cam.com/video/EwngseMS3BY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks again for stopping by. Greetings Ralph
Hey you guy are great! Like Frank said, I just play music. I am not a tribute band. There are elements of various genre in my music, because I was not raised in a cave without music. Berlin School of Electronic Music has had a great impression on the music I create.
Hello Howard, thanks a lot for watching and for sharing your thoughts. Glad to know there are lots of people out there who appreciate Berlin School of Electronic Music. Best regards from Germany, Ralph
Cool, I like your synth jam, as far as the question about music genre, and being in the past, as if it's not worthy to be played now, tell that to those into classical, anyways, nice gear zone, I want to visit and have a jam with you all !, all the best.
serious gear envy by the way guys. serious. love it.
Thank you for stopping by! No need to be envious ;-) Bernie has been collecting Synthesizers since the early 1970s….Glad to know that you like our video. Greetings Ralph
You guys are great, I will subscribe
+Anoop Sahal Hi Anoop, thank you very much! Very glad you like it! Cheers Ralph
Hallo Ralph - Hallo Jungs - das ist ein cooles Demo mit viel super synthi sounds und sehr vielen synthis - nice time
Ich liebe die fließen synthi Sounds - Sound Art Project
+Soundartprojekt Hallo Sound Art Project, freut mich sehr, dass Dir der Vlog gefällt. Vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar! Beste Grüsse, Ralph
saying berlin school is dead is like saying prog rock is dead (which i wish were true, but oh well). berlin school is the foundation of structured and original synth music. less experimental than others, more original than the moog elevator music of classical pieces. berlin school has a purity to it that i love.
Very well said! In my personal opinion all musical genres keep on living at least with some minor traces in contemporary music. Artists and humanity always use something what has been achieved before. Many thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers, Ralph
First time here and instant subscriber!
Thank you Thierry! Glad to know that you like my channel. Best regards, Ralph
gear envy.. .serious gear envy :)
but i envy ye even more for having found each other.
I seem to be doomed to be solo forever... cant find people with this kinda vibe around where i live :(
subscribed!
+Sequentonal Hello Sequentonal, many thanks for watching some of my videos. Please don't be envious! I just checked out your channel and subscribed back! You play great music!!! Your music is emanating awesome vibes. So being a solo artist doesn't seem to inhibit your creativity. Keep on posting Music Videos to TH-cam and I am sure like minded people (possibly from your area) will show up in sphere of influence and music making. Greetings, Ralph
Really Great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many thanks for watching and commenting. Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers, Ralph
Ralph, I have only recently discovered your vlogs. They are all instructive and entertaining. I keep replaying the music on this video and would be interested in buying/downloading it when "fully formed". Any details/info when it's ready would be great. Thanks! Keep up the good work.
+Neil Berry Hello Neil, thank you very much for watching my Vlogs. It’s highly appreciated! Please let me check with Bernie whether the music tracks in this video are already available on an album. I will get back to you. Rest assured! Thanks again and best regards, Ralph
+Neil Berry Hello Neil, here we go…Kindly check out the links below. Thanks again again for stopping by, watching and listening. Greetings Ralph
thau-music.com/category/video/
thau-music.com/shop/
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Thanks for the prompt response Ralph. I will get busy!! Neil.
+Neil Berry Sure, you are most welcome! Enjoy the music. Hope seeing you again! Cheers Ralph
Interesting to see the Kronos. I own one, and I almost never think of it for any of my "creative" music -- to me, it's strictly my workhorse keyboard for gigging in my covers band.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I know of people who got rid off all their Synths and just went for a Kronos ;-) Greetings, Ralph
nice show...big happy german guys with big synths. :-) i think what the guy was asking though is he would like to hear you guys doing or having a go at something more modern sounding or different....with your talents and your synths / modules. not to change your style permanently, but just try it out and make one or two videos. who knows...the results could be interesting and fun and maybe everyone can learn something. thumbs up.
+dman030 Thank you very much for watching my Vlog and writing feedback. That's exactly the direction i want to move towards with my Synth Vlog. Let the musicians experiment with their style and capture the insights and ideas which drive their musical expression. Thanks again for watching. Greetings from Germany, Ralph
their style...ok, but i think he meant some different / modern styles. at least that was how i understood the message you read to us. ok...have fun guys. MfG Polska :-)
+dman030 Thanks for your feedback. Yes, this could also be a way how to interpret that particular comment. Greetings from Germany, Ralph
Great stuff! love your page and the info and the sounds - however, with all that gear, could you possibly improve the audio on the vid? It would be a real gift to your viewers. I want to hear it better! Cheers
Hello Chad, thanks a lot for watching and for sharing your feedback. I really appreciate it. These Vlogs are very spontaneous creations, thus I am using a simple hand held vlogging camera. Wiring everybody up with Lav Mics or making everybody hold a Mic would in our opinion spoil the spontaneity and the flow of the video. That’s why we are taking this quick and dirty approach with these Vlog style videos. Greetings, Ralph
Ralph Baumgartl sure i can see that... was mostly thinking if the music could be captured better without too much trouble. All those cool synths you have in there, would be amazing to hear. thanks for the cool channel regardless ; - )
Ralph Baumgartl though...sorry i see some of your other jams have decent audio. all good!
Thanks, glad to hear that! Greetings, Ralph
Can someone count the knobs in that studio ! 10/10
Interesting question ;-) But since Synths are constantly moving in and out of that studio it would be a rather difficult task....
just subbed
+234cheech Just checked out your channel and subbed back! Very interesting concept. Cheers Ralph
I can dance to anything
+Gary Weaver Hi Gary, just bought some new gear. Will be uploading some EMD style jam sessions soon. Then you can dance even more ;-) Cheers Ralph
I don't think Berlin is dead, or, anything. Any more than Indian Classical beats. Just remember that we entertain the Cosmos and it's all good. You mean new like pocket calculator, or new like Matrix Brute : )
Earlier I watched the Modular multi-sequence. Would like to blend blend temp and seq, so they go in and out like a vibrating string
+Gary Weaver Berlin School of Electronic Music is by no means dead. As a matter of fact it’s enjoying more and more popularity at the moment.
What do you guys happen to do for your livings? I'm 19, living in Texas, and it seems like I'll never have the money to have a room full of monolithic analog synthesizers.
+Rafael Peña Hello Rafael, Bernie and Frank are both professional musicians. You are 19 years old, that’s great, so you just make music with the equipment that is at your disposal. Use whatever inspires you and what is affordable to you. Bernie is old enough to be your grandfather. Maybe your analogue synth cave will be much larger than Bernie’s when you are at his age ;-) Please also bear in mind that less equipment can also spark creativity. Just make music, please don’t be under the impression that you have to acquire a certain amount of equipment before you are ready to make music…you can just start with apps on a smart phone. Just make sure you get moving with whatever you have. Cheers Ralph
Ralph Baumgartl VLog I've been making music since I was around 15 or 16, I started in 2011. I used to make very poor grades when I was in high school so coming home to my laptop and churning out music that made me happy on Fruity Loops was a really good way to spend my time and forget about the world around me. I still make music but for around a year or so my creativity has been on a steady downhill slump, things haven't really been the same since I got out of high school. I rarely make music anymore, and it's not because I don't want to, it's more so since I feel like I've completely forgotten how to. realmofyza.bandcamp.com/track/all-the-glitter-was-gold-in-my-eyes Here's something I made recently in case you're interested, it's not very Berlin School though, just very 80's :)
+Rafael Peña Hello Rafael, I just checked out your music. It’s really good. I like it. The title goes very well with the music. You definitely have talent. Why are you in a creative slump? What’s holding you back from making music!? Your feelings can betray yourself...Cheers Ralph
Ralph Baumgartl VLog Part of it is the pressure I've created for myself. I had this music mentor over the internet a few years ago by the name of Keiji Yamagishi, he did the music for the video game Ninja Gaiden back in the 80's for the NES. I did some snooping and I found his Facebook and eventually he made a post on his profile that highlighted the details about his first album that he was in the process of making since the 80's. He was releasing it with this label that I hadn't heard of called Brave Wave, it looked like a rather small albeit professional label and I told myself, "I don't care what it takes, I'm going to release my album on that record label." If you look on my bandcamp, I upload the demo that I sent to the record label in an email (the King Cold demo) and sure enough, they contact me saying that they accept my demo and told me to send in 5 tracks of the new record. For months I was in my bedroom making tracks but they never felt good enough to me given the quality of the other releases on the record label, and since the initial email I still haven't sent the record label any music for the record, and I've already made 4 different versions of the same album. I've since had to talk to the head of the label again because an entire year had passed since they accept my demo and I wanted to make sure they were still on board with it. He got back to me saying that it was fine and to send in 5 tracks for evaluation, I did that in January and once again, I hardly have any tracks worth sending. I've manage to finish 2 though! The song that I initially sent you and this other one that I made in Bitwig Studio after I switched from FL Studio. You can find it here: clyp.it/snxpitdt Thanks for listening to me, any advice is certainly appreciated.
+Rafael Peña Hello Rafael,
I have listened to both tracks. They are pretty cool and I like them both. Make sure you finish the other 3 tracks and send the package to the label guys asap.
Here’s a brief bullet point list, which I hope makes you shift into gear.
1. Always set yourself a deadline for shipment (releasing your work). Yes, I know you are scared that people might reject it, but you never find out if people like it until you actually ship your work.
2. Delaying your work by a year does not really send a professional signal to the label guys, but what is actually worse, is what your are telling your subconscious: You do not follow through on the promises and commitments to yourself and others, and that makes you feel bad about yourself which results in even lesser drive and creativity. This applies to all people, including me. Once you break your commitments and promises, you begin to distrust yourself on a subconscious level.
3. An ounce of DOING (making music and shipping your work) is worth a ton of theorising (pondering whether your music is good enough)
This may sound a bit harsh, but I think you have talent and you should not waste time double guessing and doubting. Even if you fail and people reject your music, you can tell yourself that you have tried it. When people are on their deathbed they rarely regret the things they have done, more often they regret the things they have not tried and the chances they have not taken.
Greetings Ralph
What exactly is Berlin school?
+Ronan Hughes
Hello Ronan, this link here provides a good and concise explanation of “Berlin School of Electronic Music” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_School_of_electronic_music
Kindly let me know if that link was helpful.
Cheers Ralph
Hey, Ralph, a question that you 9or Bernd-Miachel or Frank could answer...
When playing Berlin School style, what, if anything, is keeping the players synchronized with each other, so that the lengthy arpeggios don't go out of sync with each other? Are all of their instruments synced to a MIDI clock? Or are they just that precise in their playing that it's not an issue? If they are synced in some way, how does that differ from back in the 70's, before MIDI? This might be a good one to demonstrate in a video. Thanks!
Hello John,
there are many ways how to approach the syncing layout depending on the equipment that I am using. In many cases I have the Korg Electribe providing the Midi Clock to sync up vintage synths like my ARP 2600. The Arturia Keystep is acting as Midi/CV interface and as a controller in this scenario. In the case of using only pre Midi vintage equipment you have the option of using an LFO or a trigger signal as master clock. Check out this video, in which Bernie is using a vintage Roland Drum machine to provide the master trigger signal by which all the other gear is synced up:
th-cam.com/video/3CuVtGjPJf0/w-d-xo.html
Greetings, Ralph
Thanks Ralph, I was always wondering how this was done, pre-midi. So you basically have the Keystep as a master, with everything else slaved to it? What about when you play with someone? Are you both synced to the same thing?
So, was Klaus Schulze using the LFO signal technique, back in the day?
This sure would be a great video topic!
Hello John, I haven't yet tried the Keystep as the master. I shall test that one day. But please bear in mind that there is no standard way for syncing pre midi equipment. It always depends on the synthesizers/sequencers/drum machines and usually involves a lot of trial and error testing. But I guess that's part of the fun ;-) When two musicians are playing and controlling sequencers at the same time it makes sense that they are synced to the same master device. But that also depends on the type of music and the artistic goals they have in mind. Anything goes in art and music :-) Greetings, Ralph
thank you, very interesting! Also.... WHAT A STUDIO!! You could be in there for 20 years and not come up with the same thing twice. :-)
Hello William, may thanks for stopping by! Yes, you are absolutely right! Especially a modular system is always leading you into new sound territory. Greetings Ralph
It is a moot point to me what it's called. I just call it cool!
Hello Pete, thanks a lot for watching :-) Have a great weekend ahead! Cheers, Ralph
Herr Land, Sie sind ein Synthesizerflüsterer.
Was für ein blödes Kommentar war das... Berliner Schule gehört im Museum... wirklich? Du magst das nicht, schau es einfach nicht udn geh weiter hin oder? Ausserdem, normalerweise, was in einem Museum gibt, ist ziemlich wertvoll so... ich glaube, das war ein Kompliment:))) Weiter so Jungs, weiter so!
Hallo Stefano, ja da bin ich deiner Meinung, im Musieum befinden sich nur jene Dinge, die ihre Relevanz schon bewiesen haben ;-) Wir machen auf jeden Fall weiter mit Berlin School :-) Danke fürs Anschauen! Beste Grüße, Ralph
gods....
Thanks for your compliment ! Let's put it that way: Angels that carry the musical message of the gods ;-)
Ha! Blues from the '60s...its roots stretch back to the 19th century and it's still being drawn upon for inspiration, well over a century later (114 years ago the first known mention of the style). Berlin school came about, what, 44 years ago? It's a true infant as far as music styles go. Here's hoping Berlin School's influence goes on at least another 70 years! -- Cool song, too!
+emdotambient Hello and thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right! Blues has a much longer history than just since the 1960s. I think Frank was just refering to the musical era of the 1960s when Blues also became a part of Pop Music. Thanks again for watching. Best regards, Ralph
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Yes, it was clear Frank was referring to the blues rock that started in the '60s. I've seen people moan about Berlin School being old and no longer valid on music forums (prog, too for that matter), but you never see the same about blues. I never got into blues even back in the '70s (well, maybe some early Tull, but even they had an early song in which Ian sang "Blues was my favorite colour until I found another song I felt like singing."). I only grew to appreciate it when I fell in love with '30s swing music.
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Yes, it was clear Frank was referring to the blues rock that started in the '60s. I've seen people moan about Berlin School being old and no longer valid on music forums (prog, too for that matter), but you never see the same about blues. I never got into blues even back in the '70s (well, maybe some early Tull, but even they had an early song in which Ian sang "Blues was my favorite colour until I found another song I felt like singing."). I only grew to appreciate it when I fell in love with '30s swing music.
+emdotambient Hello, there seems to be a tendency in musical and art forums to raise one particular art form above another. Some people forget to mark their arguments as just a personal opinion. This is quite sad, because, in my personal opinion, all musical styles have their own validity and uniqueness.
+emdotambient Hello, there seems to be a tendency in musical and art forums to raise one particular art form above another. Some people forget to mark their arguments as just a personal opinion. This is quite sad, because, in my personal opinion, all musical styles have their own validity and uniqueness.
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Ok that's the studio of my dreams but how much does electricity bill amount up to? LOL
+stack0413 Bernie’s electricity bill used to be much higher ;-) His previous studio was twice as big! He just recently moved to this new location and therefore has sold a lot of electricity hungry gear ;-) Cheers Ralph
Hello ..... I am not wealthy, so can I come over to your place and sample your gear ;)
Hello Chris,
many thanks for stopping by! Well, there's only one person who can grant such a request, and that’s Bernd-Michael Land who’s the owner of that Synth studio ;-)
Cheers Ralph
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I was just teasing Ralph :) I actually just got three Moog Mother 32's, a Moog Minitaur, and a Korg MS-20 so I should be pretty busy in my own studio for a while. I was very inpressed with the studio in this video, and enjoyed the playing. I am baby booner age and bought my first synth, a Minimoog, in 1978, so I can really appreciate what you guys have going on over there :) Thanks for the reply, and cheers to u2.
Chris Strobel
Hi Chris,
Bernie is very open towards people who are serious about synth music ;-) Well, you have a pretty cool setup there! I have also been interested in the Moog Mother32, but at the moment I might use that money to have my ARP2600 fully serviced :-) BTW, my first Synth was a Korg Delta in 1981, which was a birthday present from my parents. I still have it but it needs a repair service as well.
th-cam.com/video/ukO0Kex6d00/w-d-xo.html
Thanks again for stopping by.
Cheers Ralph
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Nice birthday present from your parents there Ralph :) My Mom actually paid for half of my Minimoog and I worked after school jobs for the other half. Sounds like you had supportive parents with your music as did I. In fact after high school my Mom gave me the choice of spending my college savings on either a. college, or b. the equipment neeccesary to work as a full time keyboard player :) Sounds like we're close in age, thanks for the conversation.
Chris Strobel
Hello Chris,
actually my grand mother also contributed some money to that Korg Delta birthday present. I did not own that many synths back then. I "acquired" a Korg Delta, Oberheim OB1 and an ARP2600 between 1981 and 1983. But I was very fortunate that I had a supportive friend and music teacher who allowed me to use his Home Studio every now and then. During school vacation my dad drove me there, as he lived around 250 kilometers away from my home. In the following playlist you find some videos with photos that were taken in that home studio:
th-cam.com/play/PLlJvIUzIwQ7_CAI8k2-nA8NlcP5D_aVmB.html
Greetings Ralph
Let's face it folks, the French invented electronic music. The rest of us are still just trying to catch up!
The lord is moving in mysterious ways....😉
Hola, me parece que el comentario del que ustedes hablan no tiene ningún fundamento o razón. En realidad, cada músico compone o toca la música que quiere, así sea polka, rock, disco, cumbia, folk, house, o BSE, y eso no tiene nada ver con museos. Si, cuando inició la polka, de seguro fue innovadora, y ahora no lo es; cuando inició la corriente que ahora conocemos como BSE, fue sin duda innovadora, y ahora no lo es, ¿Qué más da? A mucha gente le sigue gustando la polka, a mi me gusta la BSE
Thanks for your comment and giving us feedback. It's highly appreciated.
+Ralph Baumgartl VLog Kudos for making BSE music!
Thanks again for watching my Vlog and giving me feedback !