I perfectly understand the message and I think it is good. There is need to submit to a Pastor in a local assembly however, you cannot ignore the fact that somehow messages from other ministries get to us. Christians must study like Berians for themselves and submit in a local assembly.
To support your view, imagine what would happen if those under FALSE doctrine are forbidden by their papas from listening to other preachers. They will never come across the correct doctrine. Everyone should be exposed to every teaching and be allowed to test It according to the word.
Much respect to my Pastor Dr Abel Damina, I have been feeding on the undiluted word from the pulpit of Pastor Abel Damina but I do not totally agree with a few of papa's sermon on this topic. If we are only to listen to one voice then that voice is the voice of christ and not a pastor, any pastor that preach christ then that pastor is a channel of the voice of christ. APOSTLE Paul is not the only one with the new convenant Revelation, the other Apostles also delivered key messages for the church per time. Also a Child of God is supposed to feed on the word of God irrespective of who is the channel inasmuch he /she is lead by the Spirit then they can descern the truth which is christ in any message. Thank you sir for the great service you render humanity, God continually bless you and your family, amen.
This is one area I have differed with Dr Damina. I respect his teachings BUT we have made a doctrine out of something that shouldn't have. Nowhere in the scriptures are the words Spiritual Father and we are having to construct them by inference AND want to make them pivotal yet you teach us to be silent where the bible is silent and loud where it is loud. This teaching is by Pastors who want to ground their believers from listening or testing the word by other preachers. We should preach the Word such that when our followers hear the false doctrine they should be able to dismiss it there and there. Therefore call no man your father.
I having been listening to him for over 13years but i too disagree with him on this one.The notion of spiritual fatherhood is a totall distraction for what God intended..."call no man your father" needs no dissecting it is what is. Spiritual fatherhood is all about "who has their allegiance to me ,control and manipulation.For a preacher of his calibre this is very low key.
@@godsown4683 Your biological father is your father. When Jesus was saying call no man your father He was dealing with what is called "spiritual fatherhood" today - hance he said for only God in heaven is your father(father of your spirit).
This teaching about fathers is a quest to control believers using fear. Paul calling some of his followers sons was just sentimental...to try and turn it into a main doctrine of the church is just off. Why can't we just stay with our fathers as we've always done ie. the one that gave birth to you . I like Abel but on this one I disagree
PASTOR DAMINA FAILED IT HERE. CHRIST SAID THERE IN MATTHEW 23:8-12 CALL NO ONE FATHER THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE FATHER IN HEAVEN. SO HE DID NOT SAY CALL NO FALSE PROPHET FATHER, SO PLEASE DO NOT MIX THINGS HERE, EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT YOU AGAINST OTHER PASTORS IN MANY THINGS, BUT YOU ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC. NO ONE MEANS NO ONE, AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN HIM AS CHRIST STILL SAID IN THAT CHAPTER, THAT IS WHY HE SAYS IN JOHN 14:12 THAT ANYONE AT ALL CAN DO MORE THAN HE DID. SO EVEN IF PAUL REFERRED TO OTHERS AS HIS SON OR FATHER PAUL IS NOT THE AUTHORITY TO OUR FAITH AS HE DID SOME WRONG THINGS TOO AS HE CONFESSED IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:8 THAT HE ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES EVEN AFTER HE REPENTED TO CHRIST, AND MANY PLACES HE CONFESSED OF NOT BEING PERFECT LIKE PHILIPPIANS 3:12 & 2 CORINTHIANS 9:27 AND ETC WHERE HE SAID HE FEARED NOT BEING DISQUALIFIED. THESE ARE WHY CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE ZOMBIES WHO PREFER WHAT THIER PASTORS SAY THAN WHAT CHRIST SAYS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE BRAIN WASHING, FATHER FATHER.
You have a point Chamberlain. This Spiritual Fatherhood is a preaching being perpetuated by Pastors who want to mark territories. If you can't underline the title in the bible then why make a Doctrine out of it. That's another Gospel. Even the example of Jesus Christ and Joseph was in bad taste for Joseph is the Father of Jesus in flesh whilst YAHWEH is the father of Christ the deity.
He is our brother. I hope he is not saying that members of his local assembly should not listen and be inluenced by other men of God who are saying the truth. Pastor Abel Damina is mine, so is Andrew Wommack and Noel Woodroffe for example, they are God's gift to me. "Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;" - 1 Corinthians 3:22
Pride won't allow most preachers to affirm that this message or title of spiritual fatherhood has brought more confusion hurt and hate in their respective churches...It is a title that has been abused for Control and manipulation and sadly the end result has been divisions and plenty of pain in the church.How about we get it from Christ himself who taught"you shall call no man your father" God is our father...it is a slippery slop.i appreciate the labour of Ps Able but this is the one place i do not agree with him.i shall continue continue to listen to his other teachings....and that "global papa" title is unsettling for me and perhaps a few others,Pastor Able damina is just alright.
Well...for me... Christ is our father and we are all brothers in Christ..bcs Christ bought you and I with his blood. You can be a mentor but note that the person you got born again can be more knowledgeable than you later.
Spiritual fatherism means humility as a friut of the holy spirit to does ahead but not overall authority to one spiritual growth as the trune God is the only true eternal divine intentional purpose to ones life
You are not the central of truth, on that point doctor, we aren't agree with you, when Jesus said don't call no body father, it is about spiritual father, God is the creator of all the spirit, the source of spirit, it is the only one that we can call father spiritually no of his servent should be called father spiritually you are just a chanal, a voice that God uses, you are not a spiritual father doctor Abel Damina
Its the concept in which one is called a father....and the intention of the so called father.......lets be honest the new age pastors use the word father for manipulation and control....and thus people should not listen to other teachers...which is not in context with what the scriptures youve made reference to
PASTOR DAMINA, CHRIST SAID THERE IN MATTHEW 23:8-12 CALL NO ONE FATHER THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE FATHER IN HEAVEN. SO HE DID NOT SAY CALL NO FALSE PROPHET FATHER, SO PLEASE DO NOT MIX THINGS HERE, EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT YOU AGAINST OTHER PASTORS IN MANY THINGS, BUT YOU ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC. NO ONE MEANS NO ONE, AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN HIM AS CHRIST STILL SAID IN THAT CHAPTER, THAT IS WHY HE SAYS IN JOHN 14:12 THAT ANYONE AT ALL CAN DO MORE THAN HE DID. SO EVEN IF PAUL REFERRED TO OTHERS AS HIS SON OR FATHER PAUL IS NOT THE AUTHORITY TO OUR FAITH AS HE DID SOME WRONG THINGS TOO AS HE CONFESSED IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:8 THAT HE ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES EVEN AFTER HE REPENTED TO CHRIST, AND MANY PLACES HE CONFESSED OF NOT BEING PERFECT LIKE PHILIPPIANS 3:12 & 2 CORINTHIANS 9:27 AND ETC WHERE HE SAID HE FEARED NOT BEING DISQUALIFIED. THESE ARE WHY CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE ZOMBIES WHO PREFER WHAT THIER PASTORS SAY THAN WHAT CHRIST SAYS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE BRAIN WASHING, FATHER FATHER.
This is a very dangerous teaching, drawing people to himself and not to God. The Bible says there's no one who comes to God unless he calls them. I only have a physical father here on Earth and God is my spiritual father since he the one who gave birth to me spiritual and no other man. We are all spiritual born of God not of any pastor. Pastors preach the Gospel, God give birth spiritually to his own.
Dangerous "teaching"!! I pray that whoever listened to this remains sons/daughters of Abba Father, led by Jesus and being tought by the Holy Spirit! Matthew 23:1-12. Excellent teaching to start to manipulate and control God's people.
Spiritual fatherism! 😂😂😂😂 I didn't miss anything leaving the church. Abel Damina (a self righteous hyena in sheep's clothing) loves control of the "Sheepple" Because person no gree call you Papa, Daddy, Prophet etc that person na bastard 😢😢😢
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Dr Damina always laboring in word and doctrine
This teaching you can't getting any where always I like this gospel...Dr ABEL God bless you...
I perfectly understand the message and I think it is good. There is need to submit to a Pastor in a local assembly however, you cannot ignore the fact that somehow messages from other ministries get to us. Christians must study like Berians for themselves and submit in a local assembly.
To support your view, imagine what would happen if those under FALSE doctrine are forbidden by their papas from listening to other preachers. They will never come across the correct doctrine. Everyone should be exposed to every teaching and be allowed to test It according to the word.
@@lameckactivated very true sir,
@@lameckactivated True.
Much respect to my Pastor Dr Abel Damina, I have been feeding on the undiluted word from the pulpit of Pastor Abel Damina but I do not totally agree with a few of papa's sermon on this topic. If we are only to listen to one voice then that voice is the voice of christ and not a pastor, any pastor that preach christ then that pastor is a channel of the voice of christ. APOSTLE Paul is not the only one with the new convenant Revelation, the other Apostles also delivered key messages for the church per time. Also a Child of God is supposed to feed on the word of God irrespective of who is the channel inasmuch he /she is lead by the Spirit then they can descern the truth which is christ in any message. Thank you sir for the great service you render humanity, God continually bless you and your family, amen.
As christ is so are we in this world
I love this man !
Glorrrrrrry, amen,i am blessed
I love this one
This is one area I have differed with Dr Damina. I respect his teachings BUT we have made a doctrine out of something that shouldn't have. Nowhere in the scriptures are the words Spiritual Father and we are having to construct them by inference AND want to make them pivotal yet you teach us to be silent where the bible is silent and loud where it is loud. This teaching is by Pastors who want to ground their believers from listening or testing the word by other preachers. We should preach the Word such that when our followers hear the false doctrine they should be able to dismiss it there and there. Therefore call no man your father.
Very true. This guy manipulates scripture you can see after all the bubbling everything points to him not Christ.
I having been listening to him for over 13years but i too disagree with him on this one.The notion of spiritual fatherhood is a totall distraction for what God intended..."call no man your father" needs no dissecting it is what is. Spiritual fatherhood is all about "who has their allegiance to me ,control and manipulation.For a preacher of his calibre this is very low key.
So what should we call our biological fathers?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@godsown4683 Your biological father is your father. When Jesus was saying call no man your father He was dealing with what is called "spiritual fatherhood" today - hance he said for only God in heaven is your father(father of your spirit).
This teaching about fathers is a quest to control believers using fear. Paul calling some of his followers sons was just sentimental...to try and turn it into a main doctrine of the church is just off. Why can't we just stay with our fathers as we've always done ie. the one that gave birth to you .
I like Abel but on this one I disagree
Gloryyyyyyy🎉🎉🎉
I'm blessed
I call no man my father or papa period. Jesus ordered me so.
PASTOR DAMINA FAILED IT HERE. CHRIST SAID THERE IN MATTHEW 23:8-12 CALL NO ONE FATHER THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE FATHER IN HEAVEN. SO HE DID NOT SAY CALL NO FALSE PROPHET FATHER, SO PLEASE DO NOT MIX THINGS HERE, EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT YOU AGAINST OTHER PASTORS IN MANY THINGS, BUT YOU ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC. NO ONE MEANS NO ONE, AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN HIM AS CHRIST STILL SAID IN THAT CHAPTER, THAT IS WHY HE SAYS IN JOHN 14:12 THAT ANYONE AT ALL CAN DO MORE THAN HE DID. SO EVEN IF PAUL REFERRED TO OTHERS AS HIS SON OR FATHER PAUL IS NOT THE AUTHORITY TO OUR FAITH AS HE DID SOME WRONG THINGS TOO AS HE CONFESSED IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:8 THAT HE ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES EVEN AFTER HE REPENTED TO CHRIST, AND MANY PLACES HE CONFESSED OF NOT BEING PERFECT LIKE PHILIPPIANS 3:12 & 2 CORINTHIANS 9:27 AND ETC WHERE HE SAID HE FEARED NOT BEING DISQUALIFIED. THESE ARE WHY CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE ZOMBIES WHO PREFER WHAT THIER PASTORS SAY THAN WHAT CHRIST SAYS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE BRAIN WASHING, FATHER FATHER.
So, who was Apostle Paul's father? Who was Peter's father? I simply do not call any Pastor "father". I simply address them as my Pastor.
Who was Adam's mother?
You have a point Chamberlain. This Spiritual Fatherhood is a preaching being perpetuated by Pastors who want to mark territories. If you can't underline the title in the bible then why make a Doctrine out of it. That's another Gospel. Even the example of Jesus Christ and Joseph was in bad taste for Joseph is the Father of Jesus in flesh whilst YAHWEH is the father of Christ the deity.
Amen
We have one Father. Our Father who is in heaven. Bad teaching.
He is our brother. I hope he is not saying that members of his local assembly should not listen and be inluenced by other men of God who are saying the truth. Pastor Abel Damina is mine, so is Andrew Wommack and Noel Woodroffe for example, they are God's gift to me.
"Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;" - 1 Corinthians 3:22
Good teaching.
The same way the Pharisees judged and spoke of Jesus so they continue to scrutinize what they don't know and can't understand.
Teaching good Sir... Great teaching...
Pride won't allow most preachers to affirm that this message or title of spiritual fatherhood has brought more confusion hurt and hate in their respective churches...It is a title that has been abused for Control and manipulation and sadly the end result has been divisions and plenty of pain in the church.How about we get it from Christ himself who taught"you shall call no man your father" God is our father...it is a slippery slop.i appreciate the labour of Ps Able but this is the one place i do not agree with him.i shall continue continue to listen to his other teachings....and that "global papa" title is unsettling for me and perhaps a few others,Pastor Able damina is just alright.
Well...for me... Christ is our father and we are all brothers in Christ..bcs Christ bought you and I with his blood. You can be a mentor but note that the person you got born again can be more knowledgeable than you later.
Gloryyyy!!!
So who called Paul father? If my "father" dies, and I have another, then he is adopted father.
Spiritual fatherism means humility as a friut of the holy spirit to does ahead but not overall authority to one spiritual growth as the trune God is the only true eternal divine intentional purpose to ones life
A deciple is not greater than his master. If Jesus himself said "never" it's NEVER, regardless of who else said or did what!!
You are not the central of truth, on that point doctor, we aren't agree with you, when Jesus said don't call no body father, it is about spiritual father, God is the creator of all the spirit, the source of spirit, it is the only one that we can call father spiritually no of his servent should be called father spiritually you are just a chanal, a voice that God uses, you are not a spiritual father doctor Abel Damina
Its the concept in which one is called a father....and the intention of the so called father.......lets be honest the new age pastors use the word father for manipulation and control....and thus people should not listen to other teachers...which is not in context with what the scriptures youve made reference to
I follow Christ not Paul so when Jesus said call no man father that's final and no contradiction whatsoever .
PASTOR DAMINA, CHRIST SAID THERE IN MATTHEW 23:8-12 CALL NO ONE FATHER THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE FATHER IN HEAVEN. SO HE DID NOT SAY CALL NO FALSE PROPHET FATHER, SO PLEASE DO NOT MIX THINGS HERE, EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT YOU AGAINST OTHER PASTORS IN MANY THINGS, BUT YOU ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC. NO ONE MEANS NO ONE, AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN HIM AS CHRIST STILL SAID IN THAT CHAPTER, THAT IS WHY HE SAYS IN JOHN 14:12 THAT ANYONE AT ALL CAN DO MORE THAN HE DID. SO EVEN IF PAUL REFERRED TO OTHERS AS HIS SON OR FATHER PAUL IS NOT THE AUTHORITY TO OUR FAITH AS HE DID SOME WRONG THINGS TOO AS HE CONFESSED IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:8 THAT HE ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES EVEN AFTER HE REPENTED TO CHRIST, AND MANY PLACES HE CONFESSED OF NOT BEING PERFECT LIKE PHILIPPIANS 3:12 & 2 CORINTHIANS 9:27 AND ETC WHERE HE SAID HE FEARED NOT BEING DISQUALIFIED. THESE ARE WHY CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE ZOMBIES WHO PREFER WHAT THIER PASTORS SAY THAN WHAT CHRIST SAYS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE BRAIN WASHING, FATHER FATHER.
This is a very dangerous teaching, drawing people to himself and not to God. The Bible says there's no one who comes to God unless he calls them. I only have a physical father here on Earth and God is my spiritual father since he the one who gave birth to me spiritual and no other man. We are all spiritual born of God not of any pastor. Pastors preach the Gospel, God give birth spiritually to his own.
Shut up!!!
na wa ooh. I tot mary is also not the mother of Jesus.
Dangerous "teaching"!! I pray that whoever listened to this remains sons/daughters of Abba Father, led by Jesus and being tought by the Holy Spirit! Matthew 23:1-12. Excellent teaching to start to manipulate and control God's people.
I love most of your teachings and agree with you Sir, but not with this one. You are my brother I am your brothere.
Spiritual fatherism! 😂😂😂😂 I didn't miss anything leaving the church.
Abel Damina (a self righteous hyena in sheep's clothing) loves control of the "Sheepple"
Because person no gree call you Papa, Daddy, Prophet etc that person na bastard 😢😢😢
Here, not whoke truth
A former satanist understands better,better follow his revelation, brother