Greg Valentine - Why I'm Better Than Ric Flair & Hulk Hogan
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- Greg Valentine discusses where he ranks against his friends Ric Flair & Hulk Hogan in pro wrestling history.
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This is from Title Match Network's exclusive new series with the legendary Greg Valentine.
Hammer shares his true feelings about former tag partner Ric Flair, who is currently training for his "final" match. Also, find out how Valentine feels about where Hulk Hogan is ranked.
Remember, Greg is still good friends and close with both Flair and Hogan. This interview simply sets the record straight as far as who deserves to be mentioned amongst the elite in professional wrestling.
Valentine headlined and sold-out more than 16x at Madison Square Garden. Years before Hogan beat Iron Sheik for the WWF Title, Greg was in the main events against former champion Bob Backlund as well as Jay Strongbow, Pedro Morales and others.
We also discuss Greg's infamous battles with Rowdy Roddy Piper, which he says are better than the dog caller match.
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I thought Valentine was really boring when I was a kid, but when I got older I found myself coming to appreciate his in-ring work. He has a hard-hitting, realistic style similar to Bret Hart or Japanese wrestlers, and he's an excellent seller. If those are qualities you value, there's no doubt he's better at those things than Hogan or Flair.
Nah man Valentine, Beefcake, Dynamite Kid & JYD were more than solid
@@4363HASHMIDynamite Kid is beyond good, he’s like revolutionary with his spots while being excellent with the fundamental chain wrestling style of the Calgary Territory.
Bug Greg was excellent for his time, Jack Briscoe is another one that does not get brought up enough by modern fans.
I couldn’t stand him as a kid I just could never take to him but he was a real good technician
Greg Valentine may be the classiest, most professional, pro wrestler ever. He cared so much - and still does - about the quality of his work and about his fellow performers.
I recall hating him as a heel the way I hated Madden's dirty Raiders as a young Chief's fan from New Jersey.
He is truly a treasure and fantastic to listen to. 😊
Greg was just different. No frivolous movement in the ring, just business like his Dad, a top tier talent!
I have to agree with the Hammer. He is one of the best ever ! His matches with Bob , Piper , Santana its stuff of legends!
Greg has so many good stories and tells them very consistently and no ill will. They need to keep recording these
Greg is probably close to my #1 worker. He could do so many different things and made everything look real. His matches with Tito are still some of the best I've seen. 'Chico' would be near the top of my list too.
Guys like Valentine, Santana, Race Steamboat, Martel, Roberts, Flair, Piper, and Orndorff were guys I grew up watching.
I was always a Greg Valentine fan. I think Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan were obviously the bigger names and bigger draws but I think the Hammer has a very good point. If you dissect a Greg Valentine match he may actually be a better worker. He had his set spots that he would always do like everyone does but he's right his matches were different but for me the difference is the psychology in the ring and the storytelling he's reknown for and he's right again when he says he doesn't get a lot of credit for. Everything Greg Valentine did meant something. He told a story. He could generate genuine heat.
Greg is right. They didn't need Hogan on the card. Valentine and Santana had some really great matches for the IC belt better than any Hogan match I saw at the time. That feud was fire!
The Hammer is very under rated. His matches with RRP are beyond classic.
His Garvin matches in WWF are Way underrated as well. The Chops alone are Painful to the Heart
What is a RRP? You mean rowdy roddy piper because if you did then comment the whole name don't use acronyms thats something what I don't understand with you millennials
@@wayneking9997 Get a Grip you FRF
@@wayneking9997 EGG-ZACTLY!
@@brainhakker7133 what is a Frf?
I always have admired Greg. He doesn't pull any punches pardon the pun. And just tells it like it is. He's a grade A talent that i feel didn't get half as much recognition as he rightfully deserves. Often times people will say guys like him were to close to Ric Flair in terms of there persona/gimmick or move set. I beg to differ with all that. Greg was his own guy and had his own character. He's always been that way. Great interview and i'd glad guys like him call out people like Flair and Hogan. Because there are PLENTY of other talents that are right up there with them. That haven't gotten what they so rightfully deserve.
Greg Valentine along with Don Muraco, Ernie Ladd and Superstar Billy Graham were by favorite heels. Valenine is a class act.
I always respected Valentine when it came to Saturday's Night Main Event I looked forward to seeing his matches like he said his stuff always looked way more believable
My dad partied with Greg Valentine, I think B4 or the start of his game, and they were wild. My dad had Nothing bad to say at all. My dad was a ladies man, had a band, had access to party favors, and they also just had normal fun hanging out. Great guy.
I don't even think its debatable Greg was a hell of a lot better technical wrestler / worker than Hogan and Flair and he was also a cardio machine. He's right also his matches were always different.Hogan and Flair had the same exact matches and moves throughout their careers
I was so furious at Greg for "injuring" Tito I think I was mad for 20 years about it haha
I've always enjoyed watching Valentine work. Such amazing talent!
This man is stuck with great memories of the past.Piper passing was unreal until this day in 2022.Pipers Pit was the only thing that turned me on to watching the WWF.
I LOVE Listening to Greg The Hammer and he is UNDERRATED
Don't know if he s a Better Worker than Flair but he was VERY GOOD
U NEVER HERE THE HAMMER TALK BAD ABOUT ANYONE
You were a much better worker 100 % . Before you mentioned your face drop it immediately came to mind as I always thought yours was superior to Ricks’ as his is often ridiculous looking . Since I was young (62 yrs old now ) I thought you were the most believable of all pro wrestlers . Lanny Poffo mentioned in a shoot interview that when he was a kid he knew that it wasn’t real except when it came to Johnny Valentine , he was real . Coincidentally I felt the same . When it came to Greg . “ This guy is real and quite scary ! , I wouldn’t want to be the guy in the ring with him .” Believability should be what really determines who the best is . So Greg should be on the Mount Rushmore of pro wrestlers .
That is one cool looking jacket he got on.
Greg valentine, verus Roddy piper feud in 82, 83 was classics!
Valentine was inducted into the WWE HOF right after Billy Graham. Superstar was the man who put the entertainment in sports entertainment, while Valentine was the man who kept the sport in it. I became a fan because of Hogan, but the cage match with Valentine and Tito Santana told me that I can never miss it.
Savage and Steamboat stole WM3, a year later Valentine wrestled them both in one night.
I guess Flair's got an opponent for his final match now.
He does and it's not valentine and it's not a singles match. Hes teaming with his son in law vs jarrett and lethal. Lame.
Jeff Jarrett and Jay Lethal tag match.
@@edwardclement102 wow that's like all of the worst wrestlers in wrestling in one place...
Ridiculous, RF could grab a bum off the street and still woulda packed that place like he did. They went to see RF, didnt matter who he was in the ring with him.
Yeah his name is the grim reaper!
hammer was actually one favorite wrestler for me when i was young. not the one but of of my favorites.
he was the perfect wrestler. his style look etc
one of my favorites. he meant much more to me than your typical wrastlin heros. he was a wrestler i felt was physically representing me. there hasnt been wrestlers like him up until lately. hes always been a stocky fella even in his prime when he looked like a million bucks.
To me, Greg Valentine's biggest moment came in 1977 when he broke Wahoo McDaniel's leg. That made him the most hated wrestler in the US. With that act, he took the Most Hated Wrestler torch in the Mid-Atlantic with that act. The only other wrestler to do that before was The Masked Superstar when he burned The Mighty Igor's eye with a cigar. That put him up there with Flair, Valentine, and Blackjack Mulligan as a really hated heel.
Valentine was my first favorite WWE wrestler. My first LJN Figure
He speaks the truth. This guys my all time favorite
I can watch The Hammer’s matches all day long. Just awesome. The best.
Hammer is the WWF version of Bobby Eaton. Not technically but both guys there wasn't anybody they couldn't get a good match out of. Ring Generals
I loved watching Greg Valentines matches. He wrestled like his father Johnny Valentine. They looked like fights instead of wrestling
Greg Valentine is like the swiss army knife! True real all around wrestler. Thank you sir for all the memories.
could be right...had great fueds that are nor forgotten- maybe backlunds greatest opponent
Where the hell ya been? Good to see ya back.
I met The Hammer at a show here in Canton Oh years ago and had a great conversation with him. He was a class act.
Tito vs Greg. One of the best fueds
Yupp
Hammer...
I saw Valentine vs. Iron Sheik at Charleston, SC County Hall 1981
Memory I'll never forget.
Was around when Greg debuted in Mid Atlantic.The Flair Valentine Tag team was white hot.I agree with Valentine,longer more believable matched with other superstars.Imo,Flair and Hogan matches/angles had a phony feel about them to go along with the subpar wrestling especially from Hogan.Valentine played hard and took it hard.Greg really was a chip off the ole block.RIP Johnny Valentine.
I’ll say this : Valentine sure LOOKS better than Flair and Hogan at this point ! Long Live The Hammer !
Ric Flair only man to hold NWA and WWF letter belts.
I always found it weird that they never booked Valentine in the WWF into the main event yet pushed Flair to the moon. They had the exact same style and got heat the same way.
Valentine was a solid journeyman wrestler. He could have a match with anyone at any position on the card. But he did not have the charisma that Flair and Hogan had. I like The Hammer, and you could not run a promotion without guys like him.
Greg The Hammer Valentine was a pro’s pro. Much respect
I loved his feud with Roddy Piper in the Mid-Atlantic
Ex- wrestler Buddy Colt said a similar thing- he said Flair’s matches are too repedative. Does basically same thing. Seen one seen them all. Colt and Greg are right about that.
I agree Greg was way better than both of those bungholes
I have ALWAYS liked GV. His matches looked real. He should have got a bigger push in WWF
You are correct, sir! You always delivered and more!
At first reading the headline, I was wondering how he was going to sell this. Then it hit me after his explanation, remembering how Hogan and Flair used the same moves every match. At least Flair had more than 5 moves in his arsenal 😅
All of you guys were great hammer...
Legendary wrestler. Flair gets more love because the promos
The Top Five wrestles of all time. 1 Ric Flair
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin.
3. Roddy Piper.
4 Greg Valentine.
5. The Rock
The Hammer has the most expensive and holy grail of Wrestling Figures.
Old enough to have seen Valentine/Flair tag team. They were great. Agree Valentine was better than Flair, MUCH better than Hogan. Many were better than Hogan as wrestlers.
Beautiful
Greg is definitely a awesome wrestler all his matches are good to watch 😊
IMO one of the greatest WWF matches of all time was the macho man Randy Savage against Ricky the Dragon Steamboat if you have never seen it you need to watch it
Greg you and flair were like rice and gravy back there you were great tag teaming and had so many great match's 70s to early 80s orso were cool hammer time
Now THAT is a fucking jacket!
Always remember Greg as a believable hard ass tough wrestler. Not sure he had the same pizazz as Flair or Hogan, but his wrestling was top notch. Hogan? He was a big deal, and his size sold him, but his wrestling was not great, people say Warrior couldn’t wrestle but I never figured Hogan could either, just the same small number of moves every time. However the bottom line he was one of the most successful and memorable ever, so cudos to him. Flair, great career, but I was never a big fan. He lived hard, lucky he his still around.
"Hogan? He was a big deal, and his size sold him, but his wrestling was not great, people say Warrior couldn’t wrestle but I never figured Hogan could either, just the same small number of moves every time."
Watch some of Hogan's old matches in Japan. You'll think you're watching Mr. Perfect or Bret Hart. Of course Hogan could "wrestle;" any physically-fit person can "wrestle" when their "opponent" is cooperative, which is how it works in pro wrestling. Hogan used fewer wrestling moves in the West because that was part of his shtick, just like e.g., Mr. Perfect being a "technical wrestler" was part of his shtick.
Do you really think that any of the physically-fit pro wrestlers who had been in the business for years and years couldn't figure out how to do wrestling moves that can be learned in a few minutes? Those moves aren't exactly rocket science.
If the higher-ups in the promotion wanted a character to be a "technical wrestler" like Mr. Perfect, then that's what he would be. If they wanted a character to be a "brawler" like Hacksaw Jim Duggan then that's what he would be. It wasn't/isn't real wrestling. In real wrestling, the opponent doesn't cooperate with you, which makes it far more difficult to apply holds/moves.
Hammer way above hulk tie with flair r f had that chest slap wow that hurts cant fake that move hammer had the face plant cant fake that one
I agree totally with Mr Valentine on this
When it comes to wrestling, Greg was better than Hulk, not Ric. When it comes to character, Greg was the worst and Ric, the best. Ric sure had great promos.
The Hammer was one of the best
Flair's 60 minute matches were just the same 12minute match 5x over.
Good fighter.
Tough in the Ring.
Underrated.
That’s it. Triple threat at the next convention. It’s the only way to know for sure
Hammer will go down as one of the best in ring performers in history. I agree that he was way better in the ring then Flair and definitely Hogan. I’m sorry, Hogan was a fantastic showman and had all the mic skills but a very limited wrestler.
Valentine’s out of his damn mind! He was good. And yes, Hogan and Flair had the same match over and over. BUT that’s what the people wanted to see! Valentine’s top 15 NOT number one!
He’s right he was better but when a wrestler like Flair or Valentine say they were the 60 minute man even though it’s a work saying you’re a 60 minute man you’re saying you’re not good enough to beat anybody.
Greg the hammer is speaking the truth
The Better Half Of the FABULOUS FARGO BROTHERS!!! JOHNNY FARGO👍 EARLY 70s NWF!👍
I give greg credit he a legend
No one could fall flat on his face with no hands like The Hammer!! Always very entertaining!
And Flair stole that from him!
Flair did it well too💯
That’s one of the first bumps you learn
@@kathleenGearhart814 And HBK also did it. But I wouldn't call it stealing. It's just how it is. At some point you will do what others did before you and try to make it your own. This goes not just in wrestling but in anything else too.
@@TheFlamingPiketrue to some point. I mean, who was the first guy to do a figure four? A full Nelson even? Lol. U could go back 75 years and look at black n white film and pin point to some guy. And in real life, getting knocked out cold, when u just black out and crumple to the floor, that's not copying anyone, that's just how u land. But this wasn't used in wrestling. So one can say they copied it or whatever.
My sons 6 and this is a true story. Greg the Hammers his favorite Wrestler. He only watches 80s and 90s wrestling. We even spent over a 100$ bucks just on his Greg The Hammer wrestling figure. He knows all his moves his entrances, how long he spent in the royal rumble. Sad thing is my son doesn’t realize these guys are all older now and retired.
That's the greatest thing I've heard of in a while.
It’s amazing to hear young kids or teens love older wrestlers because most of the kid marks these days be thinking orange Cassidy or someone is a great wrestler.. sad how times changed
Your son has good tastes. Wrestling sucks today. My son likes the undertaker and he is 4 lol.
you are teaching him correct
Thats awesome man!
The Hammer is definitely underrated and under appreciated
He's a wwe hall of famer, pro wrestling hall of famer and one of the masters of the figure 4. He's not underated
By whom?
@@cjones3710 how often does he get mentioned as a great? Do any of the modern wrestlers try emulate his style? To me guys like The Hammer and Tito Santana don't get enough credit and praise for how good they were in the ring. Most of the time people talk about Flair, Michaels, Bret, and guys from the attitude era. You can agree or disagree it's your opinion.
Underrated? 50 year career, 40-50-60 championships, one of THE most recognizabale wrestlers ever, Hall Of Famer...
@@Tarantulisimo you disagree with my opinion, ok
I was only very casually watching wrestling as a kid until the valentine/Tito IC title matches. To this day they are some of my favorite matches of all time. Great chemistry.
Once I saw the cage match during the year in review I promised never to miss Saturday morning wrestling again.
He’s so sharp and so honest. He just tells it like it is.
What a legend Valentine is. Great wrestler and always humble. They don't make them like that anymore.
Yeah so humble he's only saying he's better than both Hogan And Flair
I knew very little about Greg Valentine until I started listening to these interviews. He just seems like the most decent, down-to-earth guy. He gives his take on everything but doesn't seem bitter or like he holds grudges against anybody. He gives credit where credit is due and says good things about many of his co-workers throughout his long career. Just a guy who did his job well and enjoyed doing it. It's nice to see a wrestler who doesn't seem screwed-up at all.
He's found a way to still receive monies after the fact...most are bitter because the money train stopped but that's just business, he made it work years after the fact.
Hammer is just Amazing and his dad was So very special as well. Two absolute Legends
I seen a card with Greg as a main event years back. I can't remember who he was wrestling(I'm 62 and have seen alot of matches) lol. But man this guy could dish out and also take the most brutal chops you could imagine. Brutal. Very believable. Every punch , chop , suplex etc was as real as it could be. Great worker. Great heel! Tough SOB. I love the Hammer Valentine. Been to a couple Flair matches too. Ric just had the "it facter" going on. Charisma out the ass. But hammer is right. You seen one Flair match , you've pretty much seen them all. I agree as a worker Hammer was a better worker. Flair just had that Charisma so much that you would be sucked right in.
@Scott Mitchell, Greg's as good a worker as his Dad was, & as good a overall person as his Dad was.
And Hogan.... Hogan just got pushed so fn' hard , and he was a ,well.... A HULK! Lol. Greg is a hair on the short side too. And not the sexiest man on the planet , specially after his partying days caught up with him.... And he could party! My dad partied with him in Seattle back in - I can't remember - 80 give or take year er 2. Maybe even years B4? I want to go to a Greg convention, n ask him if he remembers my late father? I bet he does
Good assessment 👍
Greg, short?! When did 6 foot become short?! I'm 5'9", does that make me a midget?!!@@necron99.aka-sammyboy92
The hammer. Has to be. One of the most underrated. Not talked abt wrestlers. Of all time…… 💯
Valentine is a legend and still underrated.
Can't disagree with anything the man says. In Backlunds book, he praises Valentine as well. True class. Thank you Greg Valentine for the countless hours of entertainment!
Even the surly, vengeful Dynamite Kid had kind words for Valentine in his book.
I saw Greg Valentine and Bob Backlund wrestle to a 45-minute time-limit draw at the Capital Centre in 1984 (after Backlund lost the WWF title to the Iron Sheik but before he left the WWF). It was one of the best matches I ever saw. Those 2 guys are legends, much better workers than Flair and Hogan (who were still great in their own right).
Got to party with Greg for hrs with my brother and 3 friends. Greg, both nasty boys, koko bware, an brutus. Only us no one else, they let us party with them. Greg told us stories, it was like a shoot party with your child heroes. Man was it cook. He was the best
Stop it! Flair was as good a worker as anyone!
I think The Hammer has point he did tons of great matches. Valentine and Roddy Piper were the original bad guys. Go back and watch their interviews the fans threw everything but the kitchen sink at them and they stayed in character
Greg the hammer Valentine vs the nature boy Ric Flair would be a hell of a lot better for Flairs last match than the one planned because Jeff Jarrett isn't worthy of the honor
As a kid Greg always made me believe it was real, one of the best in my opinion
THE HAMMER could GO !!!
Greg is a pros pro. I love listening to his stories.
The 10 best ever in no order (wrestling skill)
Brett Hart
Shawn Michaels
Ric flair
Greg Valentine
Chris Jericho
Mr perfect
Ricky steamboat
Macho Man
Chris Benoit
Randy Orton
Ten best superstars no order
Hogan
Rock
Stone cold
Undertaker
Ric flair
Shawn Michaels
Chris Jericho
Brock lesnar
John Cena
Sting
When u factor in skill with ability to entertain and sell promos ect u can’t discount Ric Flair as the best ever
You forgot Sammartino, He was absolutely huge back in the day(skill and popularity, especially at madison Square garden)
Andre the Giant has to be on the all time superstars list. He was 1 of the most popular guys for decades
Factor in promo skills style athleticism entertainment factor intensity and character and the greatest of all time is Randy macho Man savage
Nobody touches The Hitman for wrestling skill 👍
Bruiser Brody
Valentine's interviews are great! He has so much respect for other workers and for the business itself. He tells his truth and you can hear the conviction behind every word. He believes what he says, and what he does... When he was in "Rhythm & Blues" viewers could tell that he didn't believe in that character. But everything else that he has ever done was so convincing! Guys like Muraco, Tito, Valentine, and Morales made the IC belt so extremely prestigious. I remember that in the PWI rankings whoever wore the IC strap was immediately installed as the number 1 contender to the World Championship. I miss the days of being able to suspend our disbelief and just watch and enjoy.
Greg n Flair were a underrated tag team . They were loved in NC , SC , & VA. They had great matches against Gene n Ole Anderson. Greg could have been a solid heel NWA champion . His interview skills were solid .Not Flair level but good enough. His match with Piper helped draw that 83 starrcade just as much as Flair vs Race . His match against Kerry Von Erich for the Missouri title is on you tube .Great match
Hammer was pushed as a tough guy with skill, while Flair was pushed as a dirty cheat/wuss.
Flair was better at what he did than Valentine was at what he did.
No doubt about it, Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine was a much more technical wrestler than Hogan or Flair. Watch the video evidence there’s no denying the obvious 🎯💯%. Thanks for always keeping it real Greg. 👍
Agree but not more entertaining
When I was little kid, my first match was Valentine vs Santana. I thought Valentine must be Hogan due to long blonde hair (I was really young). I couldn’t understand why Hogan was so popular as he was clearly a bad guy (Valentine). But boy I sure was disappointed when I eventually saw a Hogan match. Even as a dumb little kid, I could see a huge difference between Valentine and Hogan. Valentine looked so tough, and his punches looked so powerful, and I thought he was really fighting. Hogan was like a cartoon character, and his punches were such a joke.
If you think about it, it makes sense because WWF was geared more towards the younger audience so their wrestlers were more like comic book characters.
I've been watching some Hammer matches to refresh my memories (and go back farther than that, seeing some matches from before I started watching wrestling) and he's 100% right. He makes it look real, in a way I didn't fully appreciate as a kid/teenager back in the 80s, and even now when I know it's all predetermined and he's working with his opponents rather than against them, he makes it easy to suspend disbelief. He really deserved a run with the top belt, and it's unfortunate that flash and glam prevailed, both then and in the long run, over Valentinian realism.
Valentines was a big heel in wwf. Wars with Tito Santana, the bulldogs and bob backlund.
This the type of confidence people need