Echo: we go in blind Looks at their number of tries... Wow they really mean blind. Impressive seeing a team actually try their own way even if it takes way longer.
No longer TOPless. Grats to you guys for beating it! Both the boss and the party spamming LBs was such a great idea for the last phase. No holds barred, just a straight up race to see who comes out on top.
@@bibi24 you get to see why they are such a great team. they have to tackle a different type of game, the hardest the game has to offer. and you get to see the way they problem solve through the mechanics. and their overall teamwork.
@@keichishoshuko Not just that. They're also just genuinely entertaining to watch. You don't often see full blind Ultimate prog and also the team is funny af.
@@bibi24 full time ff14 streamer already know the essense of the mechanic just by looking at itbecause ff14 mechanic in a new fight is just older mechanic being slightly adjusted. So that make it less exciting than wow streamer who doesnt have as much knowledge about ff14 in comparison
Congrats on finally clearing the fight! Fun fact: Any raidwide including enrage only applies to 1 player per game tick. It also takes an additional tick for the fail state to kick in, so if the boss goes down on the exact tick the last person dies, you still win even though you technically wiped.
Praise be that AOEs give out damage in order of proximity. Let's go! I knew the clear was coming, but it doesn't make it any less tense. Congratulations! :)
Man, I still get so excited and hype watching ANYONE finally clench that clear. The fact y'all did it right as enrage went off made it taht much sweeter
Great job to everyone involved, it takes so much effort to pull this off. I raid vicariously through others, so it feels great to watch a team pull through and finally get the clear. 👍
I mean LR has always been a relatively easy mechanic, the only reason people had trouble with it was due to greedy players not respecting the mech What I can see being the hard part is mirrors reflecting mechs in a way that can't be logically shortcutted (after intermission in E8S you can identify how to rotate by which side has the blue mirror) and instead has to be fully understood
Crit RNG swings party dps way too much and is one of the reasons why ppl have been so critical of the current job design (most damage is in few moves that happen during burst) If you low-roll p1 you have to use extra stuff you were saving for p2 to get past it (potentially limit break, which then there's a chance you make it to p4 without lb3). You use extra stuff and hope that you high-roll crits on p2 to make up for it, so you can save extra for p3. And if you don't, you either wipe p2 or go empty into p3 and wipe on it. With better food and pots this is already hardly an issue, which is a testament to how much a few stat points can determine a phase that lasts less than a burst cycle (2mins), soon with 6.5 gear and then 6.55 relic this issue will disappear. Still, this should never be an issue on content, the current job design and tight damage checks just don't work well together, the devs have to pick one.
@@jackjohnson8305Wow World First and vacations interrupted the prog. They did it for about 12 days straight then took a five month break because their schedules wouldn't work out. They cleared about a week later.
@@jackjohnson8305 dont forget they did it blind. so they couldnt look at other people doing it to get ideas,which is a large part even for world first clears. it is such a big advantage to be able to see other peoples ideas and test them and mix them with your own to create new ideas you wouldve never come up with before
I feel Robins pain, TOP was the first fight in all of XIV's history where I had to play fucking perfectly on WHM. Getting those double lily re-openers felt mandatory for success. Which more a testament to how much better WHM has become over the years.
in ff14 when enrage hits it does not hit the entire group at once but it hits in an order of closest person to the boss to farthest person. that is why if you slow down the video you will see only 3 persons died and they were the closest to the boss.
@@wizonetd0822 Interesting, I would say I prefer the enrages where you can still stand for like 5~10 seconds by playing like the best raid ever but I know the 999999 damage is a staple in FF. Also that one seems like a straight up DPS check, kill before the world ends. Thanks for the info.
@@dscarmo Enrage works in FF14 very different then in WoW and this enrage is more like in Savage then a Ultimate, in WoW you can still squeeze a little bit of time after the enrage (in the most case) but in FF14 the Boss kill always the whole raid in the end and dont even the Invulvs (something like the Paladin Bubble in WoW) work to survive.. in other Ultimates the Boss starts to permanent kill one Player after the another like in "The Epic of Alexander" until no one is left and then you wipe
nah this is way harder than DSR, dsr is around 900 pull this one almost double it 6 months and 5 months are account for the span it took for them to clear it they start dsr for a week iirc, then they took a break for 6 months and clear it in 1 week same with this one, they start the prog planning for 10 days. didnt get it, postpone it for 5 months and clear them in a week.
Hats off to The Editor for that intro LOL
Echo: we go in blind
Looks at their number of tries... Wow they really mean blind. Impressive seeing a team actually try their own way even if it takes way longer.
Jeathe: cmon guys 10 day adventure in and out lets go
Also, Jeathe goes on vacation
LETS GOOOOOO glad to see Echo get it done, always a blast watching your team prog in FFXIV!
19:50
Dude went through such emotional extremes in just 5 seconds.
No longer TOPless. Grats to you guys for beating it! Both the boss and the party spamming LBs was such a great idea for the last phase. No holds barred, just a straight up race to see who comes out on top.
The intro is perfect, would love a whole video of highlights/prog point reactions
Congratulations! Hope to see you guys in the next Savage/ Ultimate trials!
sorry whats so special or the allure/hype of WoW teams tackling ff14 fights?
@@bibi24 you get to see why they are such a great team. they have to tackle a different type of game, the hardest the game has to offer. and you get to see the way they problem solve through the mechanics. and their overall teamwork.
@@keichishoshuko Not just that. They're also just genuinely entertaining to watch. You don't often see full blind Ultimate prog and also the team is funny af.
@@bibi24 full time ff14 streamer already know the essense of the mechanic just by looking at itbecause ff14 mechanic in a new fight is just older mechanic being slightly adjusted.
So that make it less exciting than wow streamer who doesnt have as much knowledge about ff14 in comparison
This was amazing to see. Puts into perspective how hard these things are. Congratulations on the blind clear!
I was there. Going back and forth with Jeathe and Scribe's channel. Congrats guys! Glad that I tuned in. Love the blind prog.
Now that was a kill reaction, good job to you and the team. See you for the next one.
Watching echo's blind raids are always such a blast!!
Congrats on finally clearing the fight!
Fun fact: Any raidwide including enrage only applies to 1 player per game tick. It also takes an additional tick for the fail state to kick in, so if the boss goes down on the exact tick the last person dies, you still win even though you technically wiped.
I am always happy to see the best of the best WoW players do something like this. I could never, extremes are my limit these days.
Praise be that AOEs give out damage in order of proximity. Let's go!
I knew the clear was coming, but it doesn't make it any less tense. Congratulations! :)
That shout of relief in the end was perfection. Congratz!
Man, I still get so excited and hype watching ANYONE finally clench that clear. The fact y'all did it right as enrage went off made it taht much sweeter
gz it was absolutely amazing to watch you guys doing the raid.
Great job to everyone involved, it takes so much effort to pull this off. I raid vicariously through others, so it feels great to watch a team pull through and finally get the clear. 👍
Nicely done. Perseverence to the the extreme tbh. Not many people would put themselves throught this.
Such great work and effort towards a well-deserved clear! Maaaan that was close. Congratulations to you all!
nice intro and congratulations on the clear!
I laughed so hard at the intro when Roger said robin becomes Alex, fraggo becomes me. It's like they going crazy
Huge Congratz and good luck for the next RWF on WoW !!!
Congrats. Glad you managed to clear it.
CONGRATS ECHO also that intro killed me lmao
Wow that was a crazy run!
CONGRATULATIONS! NEVER GIVE UP! THATS THE WARCRAFT VETS SPIRIT!
I love how Alpha is a duck lol
Grats guys! Looking forward to seeing you guys back for Dawntrail!
Alpha is a chocobo one of the most iconic Final Fantasy Creatures ever :D
Congratulations ^^ you guys did a wonderfull job ^^
You didn't give up. You did it. 👏
A really hard working team. Damn.....Congrats.
Good Job to team Echo! Now to see them clear the next Ultimate in Dawntrail!
That was so intense. Crazy fight!
music so good he's still listening 1700 pulls in
Grate on the clear. I love how Scripe went from a no to a yes lol.
LOOK AT THESE ALPHA LEGENDS HOOOOOOOOOOLY
Big Congratzerinos to ya'll
11:22 (in the chat) Eden Ultimate in Dawntrail will be so evil.. im absolutly sure they will have a light rampant mechanic :D
I mean LR has always been a relatively easy mechanic, the only reason people had trouble with it was due to greedy players not respecting the mech
What I can see being the hard part is mirrors reflecting mechs in a way that can't be logically shortcutted (after intermission in E8S you can identify how to rotate by which side has the blue mirror) and instead has to be fully understood
@@vaan_ Its always the uptime greed.. but tbh E8S was my favorit savage endboss in Shadowbringers ngl
@@kohlicoide2258 gotta agree on that, e12s was also good but 8 takes the cake
although best "savage" in shadowbringers in DRS for me 😄
Best intro, man 😂
That they almost hit Phase 1 enrage on their clear makes me feel so much better about when I was trying to prog this.
dude for some reason phase 1 and phase 6's checks are like the hardest in this fight lmao
Crit RNG swings party dps way too much and is one of the reasons why ppl have been so critical of the current job design (most damage is in few moves that happen during burst)
If you low-roll p1 you have to use extra stuff you were saving for p2 to get past it (potentially limit break, which then there's a chance you make it to p4 without lb3). You use extra stuff and hope that you high-roll crits on p2 to make up for it, so you can save extra for p3. And if you don't, you either wipe p2 or go empty into p3 and wipe on it.
With better food and pots this is already hardly an issue, which is a testament to how much a few stat points can determine a phase that lasts less than a burst cycle (2mins), soon with 6.5 gear and then 6.55 relic this issue will disappear. Still, this should never be an issue on content, the current job design and tight damage checks just don't work well together, the devs have to pick one.
Congrats guys, nothing TOPs the feeling of clearing this fight, I've been there...
By far the most chaotic ultimate.
Personally, I think TEA is so much more chaotic.
The Legendary duck killers :)
GG bois- hope some day in the future you try other ultimates
I’m going to the miss hearing the BOOM callouts
Congratulations on the clear!!!
Echo just became much better raiders after this 5 month training montage lol
that's how ff14 intended to be played. Take your time. And pulls KEKW
While I'm a little sad it's not a full vid of prog point highlights, still a great intro to the vid.
Same shirt for DSR and TOP kill, you better wear it for WFR it a lucky a shirt
echo always gets shit done fucking amazing to see you guys prog
I forgot how long ago this ultimate content came out congrats guys 😀
Aren't these guys the tops raiders in WoW or something? what took em so long this fight was cleared months ago.
@@jackjohnson8305 Other stuff got in the way, Wow raids, wow tournaments and stuff so they just took a big break after a while
@@jackjohnson8305 well literally that, they went to do world first for wow.
@@jackjohnson8305Wow World First and vacations interrupted the prog. They did it for about 12 days straight then took a five month break because their schedules wouldn't work out. They cleared about a week later.
@@jackjohnson8305 dont forget they did it blind. so they couldnt look at other people doing it to get ideas,which is a large part even for world first clears. it is such a big advantage to be able to see other peoples ideas and test them and mix them with your own to create new ideas you wouldve never come up with before
that was really tight, congrats
Man.. grats!!! I missed these kind of prog curve... oh well, dad duties FtW !!
I feel Robins pain, TOP was the first fight in all of XIV's history where I had to play fucking perfectly on WHM. Getting those double lily re-openers felt mandatory for success. Which more a testament to how much better WHM has become over the years.
19:50 How did they survive the 99999999 hit when enrage started?
in ff14 when enrage hits it does not hit the entire group at once but it hits in an order of closest person to the boss to farthest person. that is why if you slow down the video you will see only 3 persons died and they were the closest to the boss.
@@wizonetd0822 Interesting, I would say I prefer the enrages where you can still stand for like 5~10 seconds by playing like the best raid ever but I know the 999999 damage is a staple in FF. Also that one seems like a straight up DPS check, kill before the world ends. Thanks for the info.
@@dscarmo Enrage works in FF14 very different then in WoW and this enrage is more like in Savage then a Ultimate, in WoW you can still squeeze a little bit of time after the enrage (in the most case) but in FF14 the Boss kill always the whole raid in the end and dont even the Invulvs (something like the Paladin Bubble in WoW) work to survive.. in other Ultimates the Boss starts to permanent kill one Player after the another like in "The Epic of Alexander" until no one is left and then you wipe
Lovely done !
“That was tighter than Shiva” 🤨
Congrats
congrats i could never dedicate that much to a fight
Congrats 💯
Jeaths autos saves the day
Congrats! Man, time flies. I cleared this almost 6 months ago.. Yikes! 7.0 next year! That's basically next week
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I wish.
Are there POVs of the other members of the team?
On Twitch.
O shit they did it!!! Nice.
Congratz ECHO!!!!
Gratz my brothers from echoes!!
One more proof that Echo >>>>>> Limit. Congratz
Now its time for some TEA
Congrats!
gratz on the clear
THERE IT IS DOOODS, CONGRATS!!!
im so happy for you guys!!
The best part of this fight was Roger's "Boom...Boom...Boom" in last phase
Well done, guys!
Grats on the clear yall
good job bros, congrats
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! CONGRATS!!!
I don't play WOW but I like seeing blind prog
prog highlights vid? :D
Congratsss ❤👍👍👍 now we prayge that 3rd ultimate that's supposed to be came to be 😊
from oh fuck to oh yes
IDK whats the big deal. There was eight of you and only one of them xD
Jokes aside, Grats, GG. That was sick, so close
Let's gooooooo!
awesome
I'm Happy
Massive
grats
Boom Well done boys
GG scho, GG
To be fair, it was jeath fault for going on vacation
Jeathe vacation.
Race to world first
MDI
All things that stopped them.
GG
is it the hardest tho?. they took even more for dsr.
nah this is way harder than DSR, dsr is around 900 pull this one almost double it
6 months and 5 months are account for the span it took for them to clear it
they start dsr for a week iirc, then they took a break for 6 months and clear it in 1 week
same with this one, they start the prog planning for 10 days. didnt get it, postpone it for 5 months and clear them in a week.
Pog
Are the attempts real?
looks about right
Yeah it's all streamed and counted 1 by 1
lets fucking goooooooooooooooooo
Mok
🎉
Maybe for the next ultimate they can finish it 4 months after it's release xffing
Harder in 6.3 ....
:madge: gz tho
Just a tiny tiny bit harder tbf - and blind prog is so crazy hard anyway
By the SKIN OF YOUR TEETH JESUS
Amazing lmao