@Ateyurock FYI the de la hoya fight was no catch weight. Oscar picked that weight (147) thinking he had an easy fight against a tiny dude. Nobody made Oscar do anything that was all him.
@merksperk2 you got a point there, but think of it, what title does pac holds? wbo ww belt, what would be at stake if they fight at jw? and you're wrong about that sergio's natural weight is light middleweight, he walks around at 170lbs.. there's no logic in making pac ang sergio fight..
@ForME4mi Hopkins started at Jr. MW ...reigned at 160 for many many years... and is fighting at 175... Martinez only weighs in at about 158. I don't see anything wrong with the top comments at all. Sergio could fight a Andre Ward at 165 tho.
@lassedw Margarito was bigger then Sergio is now and he still fought him. To be honest, I don't think Manny is scared for fight Sergio but I DO believe the people around him are. Manny has always had his fights picked for him which he even admitted to. His exact words was "I fight who ever they tell me to fight" Like I said though, I know Manny would want to fight the absolute best but his matches are being cherry picked and they make sure he always has that advantage coming into the ring.
@yagbadudel17 Well, considering the fact that a lot of people are saying that Pacquiao beat an old, slow Mosley, and old de la Hoya, a beat up Cotto, a beat up Margarito, and Clottey, who can't go on the offense to save his life, I think having Martinez as an opponent is a nice change in scenery. No offense to Pacquiao, just his recent choice of opponents.
Marg was slow as a snail at 147.... then he had a 14 month layoff and fought a Roberto Garcia at a weightclass higher (yes it often can slow a fighter, fact) before going down to 150 (something else that can slow a fighter) to fight Pacquiao for a vacant "154*" title... it was a grand scale farce, lol.
@MrDurz the only way to resolve this is if pacquioa gets his ass smashed vs mosley but still beats him lookin shitty then they will give martinez the #1 spot thats the way it works with p4p
I admire martinez for his power and skills. He is the best in the middleweight division. But instead of calling out a former light-flyweight in manny pacquiao, and now fighting out in the welterweight division, which is still 2 wt classes below his fiefdom, i would admire him even more if he calls out any of the klitschko brothers. Martinez should know how to put his money where his mouth is.
@Ateyurock - Im not an expert in boxing, Its what Ive learned since Ive just started boxing, the catchweights are for the promoters job & negotiators. Me Im 5/4 140 & I sparred with a friend who is 5'8 almost 180, he couldnt believe how easily I can sneak my straight right hand in his face & move to his side immediately hes so pissed & frustrated that he demanded me to catch his weight which is so ridiculous. If you were me would you go all the way to 180? Boxing always dont work that way.
@Ateyurock are you sure about that. I think you might want to double check your facts. Here is a quick history lesson for you. Oscar wanted one more big fight before he retired, he originally wanted to fight Cotto but since he lost to margarito he said no. Margarito was to big and dangerious for him so he picked manny the smaller dude to fight after Larry merchent mentioned it, Oscar was the big star who wanted the fight against what he and most experts would be an easy fight against a tiny dude
it's like martinez vs super middle weight division-like carl froch, arthur arbraham right?.. just like manny from lightweight now fighting @ welterweight division...=)
@nightmare187able well clearly you're not hating.. good point, i mean martinez and pacquiao should not fight coz of their natural weight.. a real junior welterweight against a real middleweight, that's not boxing..
@crazynacho25 Agreed. Looks like Pacquiao's managers are more concerned with easy money than making good fights (which is understandable; Pacquiao doesn't need to prove anything at this point in his career). There's no doubt that Pacquiao is the #1 boxer today, but if he continues to fight pointless fights while Martinez keeps stepping up in competition, Martinez might just take grab that #1 spot. Also, if Mayweather-Martinez happens, then whoever wins that fight could become the #1 boxer.
I am a huge PacMan fan..but to put him in with a guy like Martinez is absurd. Martinez isn't Margarito. PacMan is naturally a smaller man. For some reason people who can't see that have Manny as some mythical fighter who slays dragons for fun. Sergio packs too much power and is as dynamic as anyone. Manny can still get good fights in and around his weight category (that's up to Arum) but shouldn't be included in a Sergio Martinez matchup conversation.
Not to down grade Manny but Martinez would easily beat him, and I'm a Mayweather fan also and I think Martinez would beat him too at a certain weight class at 154 call it a toss up, but at 147 for him to fight either Floyd or Manny is bad on his part because both Floyd and Manny are at the best at welter-weight. Floyd has only fought at 154 once against Oscar so I'm worried that Floyd would have big problems at that weight against Martinez, but 147, I have Manny and Floyd being too much!
Floyd vs Sergio would be interesting I dont see anyone else getting even close to floyd not even pacquiao. I think Sergio is the one that has more chance at beating the pound for pound best floyd mayweather.
@yagbadudel17 If Pacquiao is indeed a real junior welterweight, then why isn't Pacquiao-Marquez III at 140 pounds instead of 147? Simple. Pacquiao is stronger at 147 pounds than at 140 pounds. Also, Martinez is a natural 154-pounder and a small middleweight. They're essentially one weight class apart at this point. I don't see how the fight is impossible to be made weight-wise.
@Ateyurock it is manny's right to fight sergio at a catchweight. He is a middleweight who walks around bigger and he wants to fight a smaller guy. If he fought manny, he would win bcos of his size advantage, not bcos of his skill. Sergio should go up in weight and fight bigger guys which wont be as much as a disadvantage bcos he walks around bigger aniways.
People hate way too easily it's fuckin disgusting, Martinez is natural division is 154, he went up to 160 cus no one would fight him, that's simple, and mayweather n pacquiao are the p4p best it's simple, he has to fight them, why fight Hopkins? He loses and his momentum dies, or he wins n excuse Is Hopkins is too old..
He dreams to even just get a drizzle of the money raining on Pacquaio and Mayweather. Coz when it rains money on Pacquaio or Mayweather it really pours.
@yagbadudel17 well nobodys hating because sergio m artinez natural wight is 170 pounds, that means losing 20 pounds if yu say pacs is 142 its would be more of a burden for sergio than it would be for pac
tell martinez to come down to 147 or even 150, pac will fight anyone at that weight.. 154 is too big for a guy who's natural weight is 142.. get real haters..
@Ateyurock - 154? does that make any difference? catchweight is a lousy excuse Manny would still whoop Margarito's ass dude, If Manny was at 154 he'll know exactly what to do, flirt in the ropes, wait for Margarito, do a 7 hit combo then move away, go in the center wait for Margarito again, do a 7 hit combo again, & keep on encircling Margarito so that Margarito's focus will always be Manny's head not the body. Margarito fought by heart not by brain, hed still lose Manny at 154.
@gixxerich then you should tell bon arum about that, im not his promoter, lol.. i bet pac will beat him at 150 and then haters will say "oh he's weight drained blah blah blah.."
@merksperk2 martinez can fight pacquiao, at 150, then all those haters will say that oh he beat martinez coz he's weight drained.. pac can't even make 147 at the scales.. when he fought margo, he weighed in 144lbs, can martinez make 147???
yo, he has faced bigger opponents than him: Pavlik, Sergey, Williams, etc... he wants to challege the best, to become p4p in the world...first whos the best p4p? pacman&mayweather,, who has fought at 154lb ?pacman&mayweather whos a natural at 154lb? Martinez. Honestly he can beat all 3- pacman, mayweather and ward..... ward will be too slow an sloppy for martinez, but i do see mayweather being really hard to beat, and pacman would be a just sitting target for martinez
@Ateyurock but i'm sure you already knew that since as you say "i know more boxing then you queer". I think your hatred for manny has deluted your ability to see the truth. Just saying
Martinez is too big for Pac, It will be like Barerra vs Margarito if Martinez wants his shot at Pac it'll cost him his weight, I think Martinez should rule in the middleweight for now, he should call out that kid Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. how can a legend goes on if Chavez Jr. only fights fighters we never heard of. Martinez should call out & school Chavez Jr. that kid has never crawled to the canvass. Or Martinez should call out Hopkins at 160 catchweight.
@lassedw he has more than 40 million argentinians to start selling any of his fights.. is he willing to lose 10 pounds of muscle to fight . If he fights cotto he will beat him up K.O. faster than anyone so I dont se him getting those huge fights with pacman or mayweather
sergio please stop calling PAC cause it will not happen..why not fight carl froch, arthur abraham, adre ward instead for you to know if its easy to jump to 2-3 weight division...=)
@Ateyurock...you want PAC fight oscar @ 154 lbs?..ridiculous..PAC will jump 4 division..lol! it is like juan manuel marquez figting antonio margarito?..lol
Felicidades campeon del mundo sergio maravilla martinez.
I miss these days of boxing
when will sergio martinez fight next??
True warrior. The world's most dangerous fighter, Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez!
its funny how he just called them out hahaha
@Ateyurock FYI the de la hoya fight was no catch weight. Oscar picked that weight (147) thinking he had an easy fight against a tiny dude. Nobody made Oscar do anything that was all him.
when is sergio martines next fight?????
I miss hbo boxing 😢
@merksperk2 you got a point there, but think of it, what title does pac holds? wbo ww belt, what would be at stake if they fight at jw? and you're wrong about that sergio's natural weight is light middleweight, he walks around at 170lbs.. there's no logic in making pac ang sergio fight..
@ForME4mi Hopkins started at Jr. MW ...reigned at 160 for many many years... and is fighting at 175... Martinez only weighs in at about 158. I don't see anything wrong with the top comments at all. Sergio could fight a Andre Ward at 165 tho.
@lassedw Margarito was bigger then Sergio is now and he still fought him. To be honest, I don't think Manny is scared for fight Sergio but I DO believe the people around him are. Manny has always had his fights picked for him which he even admitted to. His exact words was "I fight who ever they tell me to fight" Like I said though, I know Manny would want to fight the absolute best but his matches are being cherry picked and they make sure he always has that advantage coming into the ring.
@yagbadudel17
Well, considering the fact that a lot of people are saying that Pacquiao beat an old, slow Mosley, and old de la Hoya, a beat up Cotto, a beat up Margarito, and Clottey, who can't go on the offense to save his life, I think having Martinez as an opponent is a nice change in scenery. No offense to Pacquiao, just his recent choice of opponents.
@lassedw he says 168 pounds (Bute, War,Johnson) are too big for him.. he only wants midgets, i dont get it
Marg was slow as a snail at 147.... then he had a 14 month layoff and fought a Roberto Garcia at a weightclass higher (yes it often can slow a fighter, fact) before going down to 150 (something else that can slow a fighter) to fight Pacquiao for a vacant "154*" title... it was a grand scale farce, lol.
@MrDurz the only way to resolve this is if pacquioa gets his ass smashed vs mosley but still beats him lookin shitty then they will give martinez the #1 spot thats the way it works with p4p
I admire martinez for his power and skills. He is the best in the middleweight division. But instead of calling out a former light-flyweight in manny pacquiao, and now fighting out in the welterweight division, which is still 2 wt classes below his fiefdom, i would admire him even more if he calls out any of the klitschko brothers. Martinez should know how to put his money where his mouth is.
@Ateyurock - Im not an expert in boxing, Its what Ive learned since Ive just started boxing, the catchweights are for the promoters job & negotiators. Me Im 5/4 140 & I sparred with a friend who is 5'8 almost 180, he couldnt believe how easily I can sneak my straight right hand in his face & move to his side immediately hes so pissed & frustrated that he demanded me to catch his weight which is so ridiculous. If you were me would you go all the way to 180? Boxing always dont work that way.
@Ateyurock are you sure about that. I think you might want to double check your facts. Here is a quick history lesson for you. Oscar wanted one more big fight before he retired, he originally wanted to fight Cotto but since he lost to margarito he said no. Margarito was to big and dangerious for him so he picked manny the smaller dude to fight after Larry merchent mentioned it, Oscar was the big star who wanted the fight against what he and most experts would be an easy fight against a tiny dude
Watch the reaction to manny pacquia as he watches sergio call him out, look it up
it's like martinez vs super middle weight division-like carl froch, arthur arbraham right?..
just like manny from lightweight now fighting @ welterweight division...=)
He says at the end of the interview he wants the best infront of him, Pacquaio or Mayweather. Who's he fighting next? Oh yes Darren Barker..
@nightmare187able well clearly you're not hating.. good point, i mean martinez and pacquiao should not fight coz of their natural weight.. a real junior welterweight against a real middleweight, that's not boxing..
@crazynacho25
Agreed. Looks like Pacquiao's managers are more concerned with easy money than making good fights (which is understandable; Pacquiao doesn't need to prove anything at this point in his career). There's no doubt that Pacquiao is the #1 boxer today, but if he continues to fight pointless fights while Martinez keeps stepping up in competition, Martinez might just take grab that #1 spot. Also, if Mayweather-Martinez happens, then whoever wins that fight could become the #1 boxer.
I am a huge PacMan fan..but to put him in with a guy like Martinez is absurd. Martinez isn't Margarito. PacMan is naturally a smaller man. For some reason people who can't see that have Manny as some mythical fighter who slays dragons for fun. Sergio packs too much power and is as dynamic as anyone. Manny can still get good fights in and around his weight category (that's up to Arum) but shouldn't be included in a Sergio Martinez matchup conversation.
@yagbadudel17
So what, Margarito can fight Pacquiao, but not Martinez?
Not to down grade Manny but Martinez would easily beat him, and I'm a Mayweather fan also and I think Martinez would beat him too at a certain weight class at 154 call it a toss up, but at 147 for him to fight either Floyd or Manny is bad on his part because both Floyd and Manny are at the best at welter-weight. Floyd has only fought at 154 once against Oscar so I'm worried that Floyd would have big problems at that weight against Martinez, but 147, I have Manny and Floyd being too much!
@Ateyurock - Margarito rehydrated all the way to 165 in his fight with Pac. Still Pac whooped his ass.
Floyd vs Sergio would be interesting I dont see anyone else getting even close to floyd not even pacquiao. I think Sergio is the one that has more chance at beating the pound for pound best floyd mayweather.
@yagbadudel17 martinez has said that he will go down to 150
@crazynacho25 Yes yes yes....someone who understands the sport.
@yagbadudel17
If Pacquiao is indeed a real junior welterweight, then why isn't Pacquiao-Marquez III at 140 pounds instead of 147? Simple. Pacquiao is stronger at 147 pounds than at 140 pounds. Also, Martinez is a natural 154-pounder and a small middleweight. They're essentially one weight class apart at this point. I don't see how the fight is impossible to be made weight-wise.
if he went up 2 super middle nd beat the winner out of froch, ward and bute then i reckon he'd get the number one.
@Ateyurock it is manny's right to fight sergio at a catchweight. He is a middleweight who walks around bigger and he wants to fight a smaller guy. If he fought manny, he would win bcos of his size advantage, not bcos of his skill. Sergio should go up in weight and fight bigger guys which wont be as much as a disadvantage bcos he walks around bigger aniways.
i think winky and serg what be a good one
People hate way too easily it's fuckin disgusting, Martinez is natural division is 154, he went up to 160 cus no one would fight him, that's simple, and mayweather n pacquiao are the p4p best it's simple, he has to fight them, why fight Hopkins? He loses and his momentum dies, or he wins n excuse Is Hopkins is too old..
If I were Manny I would fight Martinez at a catchweight of 141lbs. If I were Floyd I would get a sex change.
He dreams to even just get a drizzle of the money raining on Pacquaio and Mayweather. Coz when it rains money on Pacquaio or Mayweather it really pours.
@yagbadudel17 well nobodys hating because sergio m artinez natural wight is 170 pounds, that means losing 20 pounds if yu say pacs is 142 its would be more of a burden for sergio than it would be for pac
@325hpls1 Cotto will :))
Sergio Martinez is the best Boxer of the world !!
Floyd and pacquiao are businessman but not real boxing than Martinez !!
tell martinez to come down to 147 or even 150, pac will fight anyone at that weight.. 154 is too big for a guy who's natural weight is 142.. get real haters..
@Ateyurock - 154? does that make any difference? catchweight is a lousy excuse Manny would still whoop Margarito's ass dude, If Manny was at 154 he'll know exactly what to do, flirt in the ropes, wait for Margarito, do a 7 hit combo then move away, go in the center wait for Margarito again, do a 7 hit combo again, & keep on encircling Margarito so that Margarito's focus will always be Manny's head not the body. Margarito fought by heart not by brain, hed still lose Manny at 154.
@ForME4mi
I know. I think he's been smoking crack
@Ateyurock Sugar Ray leonar Fought a liet H,W. championship at a catchweight ( 168 ) nobody questions his greatnes...
@choyboy66
Yes.
Martinez must be damn stupid wanna face Pacquiao and Maywheather. those dudes would end his career
Hopkins & Martinez should have fought 4 years ago too bad Hopkins is already too far in weight.
@gixxerich then you should tell bon arum about that, im not his promoter, lol.. i bet pac will beat him at 150 and then haters will say "oh he's weight drained blah blah blah.."
@merksperk2 martinez can fight pacquiao, at 150, then all those haters will say that oh he beat martinez coz he's weight drained.. pac can't even make 147 at the scales.. when he fought margo, he weighed in 144lbs, can martinez make 147???
yo, he has faced bigger opponents than him: Pavlik, Sergey, Williams, etc... he wants to challege the best, to become p4p in the world...first whos the best p4p? pacman&mayweather,, who has fought at 154lb ?pacman&mayweather whos a natural at 154lb? Martinez. Honestly he can beat all 3- pacman, mayweather and ward..... ward will be too slow an sloppy for martinez, but i do see mayweather being really hard to beat, and pacman would be a just sitting target for martinez
@Ateyurock but i'm sure you already knew that since as you say "i know more boxing then you queer". I think your hatred for manny has deluted your ability to see the truth. Just saying
Pac and Martinez at 154lbs is STUPID!!!!!!!!! Pacman will never face a TRUE 154....even though he has a belt in that division
joe calzaghe would beat da breaks off of sergio he never tires out and always throw flurries even in da later rounds
Martinez is too big for Pac, It will be like Barerra vs Margarito if Martinez wants his shot at Pac it'll cost him his weight, I think Martinez should rule in the middleweight for now, he should call out that kid Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. how can a legend goes on if Chavez Jr. only fights fighters we never heard of. Martinez should call out & school Chavez Jr. that kid has never crawled to the canvass. Or Martinez should call out Hopkins at 160 catchweight.
@lassedw he has more than 40 million argentinians to start selling any of his fights.. is he willing to lose 10 pounds of muscle to fight . If he fights cotto he will beat him up K.O. faster than anyone so I dont se him getting those huge fights with pacman or mayweather
pacquiao vs martinez
sergio please stop calling PAC cause it will not happen..why not fight carl froch, arthur abraham, adre ward instead for you to know if its easy to jump to 2-3 weight division...=)
@EC2CREW100 At 154 Sergio would beat Pac, and Floyd wont fight Sergio.
@Ateyurock...you want PAC fight oscar @ 154 lbs?..ridiculous..PAC will jump 4 division..lol! it is like juan manuel marquez figting antonio margarito?..lol
@ginaharvey123...because PAC is great..simple as that...lol
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