For real. He put it on the main channel for 3-4 episodes then forgot about it. I feel like if he kept it on KennyToo he would still be uploading it cuz he kept the kings series alive on that channel.
this challenge is doable, its hardish but u can do it. gotta know how to play the game differently though like holding triangle makes your players cut offball, hold circle for a handoff, call some floppy plays, call some cut/dive plays
idea for the forfeit wheel, all ur player gotta play reverse positions, so center plays pg, power forward playes the shooting guard, and for the sf put him at the 5.
@@skynyrdjesus i don't think it's supposed to be. 5 is an odd number so one is bound to be closer than the other. pg plays pf and due to size, it basically is as hard as it gets
Kenny, if you hold Y or triangle with the ball another player will cut. If you hold B with the ball another player will come for a handoff. And if you press LB the player screening you will immediately dive
Forfeit or challenge wheel: in the fourth quarter you must intentionally foul out your entire starting 5 (yes this means allowing a lot of FTs in the bonus). You can pick a game where you lead by less than 10 points after 3. Try to hold on and win the game. Alternate forfeit wheel: change every player’s free throw rating to 0 for an entire week
Forfeit idea : random select 2 players one starter and one bench player that’s in your rotation. Then randomly pick 1-2 on which one gets cut and traded. Ex kat and Drummond and then have cpu pick 1-2 (1. Being cut ) (2.being traded) if you pick kat first and the spin says 1 you have to cut kat and trade Drummond. ( can pick any trade you want)
Hey Kenny remember that “washed” to hall of fame challenge? Do it again with a new player with an added twist draft a rookie for the “washed” player to mentor and make him an all nba player (it was fun when I tried it, for an added challenge; your rookie has to be a second round pick)
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a SF Chalenge wheel: make everyone a PF Chalenge wheel: make everyone a C Chalenge wheel: make everyone a SG Chalenge wheel: make everyone a PG Chalenge wheel: 5 man rotation in 4th q Chalenge wheel: Random overalls for each player Chalenge wheel: Randomize the minutes Chalenge wheel: Random Player on Player Lock Chalenge wheel: only dunks allowed Chalenge wheel: lower everyones speed by 20 Chalenge wheel: lower everyones ball handle by 20 Chalenge wheel: everyone have even minutes Chalenge wheel: make everyone 6'6 and all look and have the name of Brian Scalabrine so you dont know who anyone is or smthing like that Chalange Wheel: Change everyones hight name and aperance so they look like each other. Chalenge wheel: lower everyones shooting ability (3pt mid close and dunk) by 15 Chalenge wheel: lower everyones defense by 20 Chalenge wheel: lower everyones ball handle by 20 Chalenge wheel: Change everyones position randomly Chalenge wheel: Lower everyones rebounding by 20 Chalenge wheel: Lower everyones passing by 20
Kenny, word of advice!! Quick play Floppy is a cheese play for three point shots, best shooter on the floor gets single or double screen from two players to the left or right center. Corner if the play falls apart. Favorite play in the game for a shooter that's simple. Great screens get 0 contest with a shooter wide open. Try it out!
Trade Wheel Idea: Trade for Someone that You Traded Away Earlier in the Series Another Trade Wheel Idea: Trade Someone on Your Team for one of Their Current Real Life Teammates Challenge Idea: Only Shoot 3's in the First Half and Don't Shoot any 3's in the Second Half Another Challenge Idea: Everyone on Your Team (Not Just Rotational Players) Has to Make a 3 Another Challenge Idea: Everyone on Your Team (Not Just Rotational Players) Has to Get a Dunk
Forfeit idea: let a GM finesse you on trades for 3 random players Trade wheel idea: trade your best guard for a random center, and trade your Best center for a random PG challenge wheel: for the 4th quarter alternate between shots from inside the arc and out side the arc. For example: first shot:dunk second shot:three third shot:mid range fourth shot: three
Challenge wheel: 1. Sticky feet, you can't make any jumps on defense. Only contests. 2. You have to win with your bench and reserves only. 3. You can't end a quarter with more than a 3 point lead. Including winning the 4th.
Day 3 of asking Kenny to do the former all star challenge Rules -you must have 1 all star from the last 13 all star games -You must have 1 former all star MVP -You must run at least an 11 man rotation -You must have 5 former all star starters starting on you team -And you must 4 peat to honor Kobe’s 4 all star MVP’s
Forfeit wheel: 1. You have to change all your Cs height to 5"7 until you get to trade them. 2. You have to change your SF speed to 1 for the rest of the playthrough. 3. You have to trade your oldest player for the youngest you can find.
There’s some things you could’ve called for pass and screen away type of stuff. Also, jab steps and post moves don’t require dribbling either and create a more open look
The can’t do it yourself duo idea: Draft two players on the same draft, one with the highest offensive potential, and one with the highest defensive potential. Or draft one player each year to get the best out of each. Good luck!
The SamPham play would be perfect for this challenge: 4 out 1 in freelance set -> Call P&R with your center at almost half court -> pass/ hand off ball to center -> hold triangle so the guard cuts -> layup (if the help starts coming you can kick our for corner 3)
Kenny, you can force the screener to slip. While the p&r is showing left/right side and fade/roll you can press the p&r button (LB on xbox) and the big will slip right away.
Challenge: allow the opponent to score each possession in the 4th and win. (Ex: allow a dunk/lay up attempt or open jumper, or foul and allow free throw attempts) Trade: Opposites Trade (PG for a C or C for a PG)
Kenny, remember that unboxing?If you still have that Larry legend worm up suit, me and my father always watched the Celtics games and it would be the perfect present sense his birthday is coming up.
The “No rejection challenge” Its a normal rebuild, but to give you an advantage you must pick the players yourself. You have to accept every single trade offered to you, and if you don't get any, you have to randomly pick a player to trade, and randomly pick which trade to accept. You must do at least 10 trades. If thats unrealistic you can adjust. Win a championship. Try to 3-peat for an additional challenge
Idea for the regular wheel: play a game with a rotation of 7 current/past euroleuge players (past means you can take Campazo for instance) and your highest overall player, and try to win the game.
Loved the vid bro!!! Idea for a challenge: Randomize every players jumpshot. Either number generator or just closing the eyes and going. Love your channel bro keep it up!
Kenny... if you hold triangle your players cut to the basket. You dont have to call a pick and then wait. Also why didnt you just run floppy everytime??
Kenny, you should try The Perfect Rotation Rebuild Rules: - Must have a 10-man rotation - Must have two players at each position (positions can be changed) - Each player has to play 24 minutes - Win a championship Bonus Try to get each player to average 10 ppg. Good luck!
Game challenge: 10 for every stat Each position in your starting lineup has a stat that has to reach a minimum of 10 PG- 10 ast SG- 10 3pters SF- 10 dunks PF- 10 rebounds C- 10 points of of pnr (must include one alley oop) *I know I got a lot of likes on this last time but I did make some changes.
yo Kenny I gotta idea! number gen 1-30 of the teams then 1-15 through the teams roster and pick the player it landed on and you have to player lock that player for a game and drop 30 minimum!
Forfeit: Randomize the starting 5 using random number generator Trade: Trade your 6th best player randomly Challenge: Win a game using no pick and roll offense
Forfeit idea: Close your eyes and select three players by scrolling rapidly for a bit then trade finder them and repeat the process to get the trade. You can either do three separate trades, one big trade or a two person and a single person trade.
Video idea: The Forever Young challenge. You may only have players 27 years old and younger. All players must be 80+ overall unless in their rookie season, excluding players not in the rotation. Bench players must be 26 or younger (reserves included). Win 8 championships in 10 years. Like so Kenny will see, or if you would enjoy seeing this. I’m gonna post this on every video until he does it. This is day 1.
Put all primary position Centers(KAT counts) into one trade and take the median(middle average) trade. Regardless of what it is. If only 1 or 2 pick the first one-Punishment- -Challenge- All 3s challenge takeover for the 3rd quarter and only take 3s or alleyoop pass are allowed from he 3 point line and back
Trade wheel: "Mirror trade" trade 1 of your rotation player for someone with the same POSITION, HEIGHT, WEIGHT etc... You can adjust the challenge to make it more exciting for your taste. Love your vids man
Me: wants kenny to win Also Me: *wants kenny to lose so i can repost my forfeits from 2 weeks ago*: Forfeit ideas (intended to be annoying): -Rebrand your team's uniforms (to see your design skills) -Turn CPU trade frequency to 100, then accept every trade for a week -Make everyone's shot tendency 0 then simulate a game -Make everyone have the slowest jumpshot speed then play the game -Watch an entire game without you controlling the players or rotations
Rebuild idea: Create a wheel of nba highlights, if you can replicate the highlight you can draft the player to your team, if you can’t you have to take a 70 overall.
Kenny tip when not trying not to dribble and playing off ball... if you hold triangle one of the closest players to you cuts to the basket and hold circle to do a handoff and when you pass with X and hold it you'll be able to control the player who passed and do a give and go after u release the X and when inbound off ball u can press L1 to ask for a pick :D hope you see this and be able to help u win the no dribble challenge next time around or just be able to integrate this to your playstyle Kenny :D also Triangle + circle pump fakes the pass so if the cut is not open u may not pass it and turn it over :D
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the challenge is honestly more doable in real life because you can have a bunch of off ball action, compared to in 2k your players just stand still
You can have off ball action in 2k if you aren’t a scrub
@@hittanomiss9702 but it doesn’t work that great
@@hittanomiss9702 only if you call like floppy
@@Nalon.1242 floppy would've won the challenge tbh
It’s doable Kenny just has bad pass selection lol
Rebuild idea: draft a team of only “jr’s” “sr’s or “III” players
Great idea
Maybe instead of Jrs, u could just do their kids
@@JayCampNetwork no
Its basically the same but not just having it be strictly Jrs, etc. That way Cole Anthony could play as well as guys like Sabonis
@@JayCampNetwork that makes it easier. The point is for it to be a challenge
Kenny! Idea for a Rebuild, do Poeltl (the NBA wordle spin off) for 14 days, the answer every day goes on your team and you rebuild the team
Great idea
This is fire
Fire idea
Crazzyyyyyyy idea bro wtf!!!! If he don’t guess the player right tho he can’t be on the team
Big brain
Forfeit wheel idea: Use a random number generator and cut whatever player it lands on
Bruh I was just about to type this. 🤣
At 10:20
Kenny: Harden is literally cooking dejounte
Also Kenny: Controls dejounte while he gets cooked
anyone who plays 2k knows that its always the player you are controllings fault
Challenge: don’t score in the 4th quarter. You can defend but can’t score
Good luck and keep up the good work!
Forfeit wheel: You cannot score the entire 1st quarter
Challenge wheel idea: Put your smallest guy on their tallest player.
Challenge wheel: you have to randomize the match ups in game
Loving the new setup!
Series was fun while it lasted
For real. He put it on the main channel for 3-4 episodes then forgot about it. I feel like if he kept it on KennyToo he would still be uploading it cuz he kept the kings series alive on that channel.
@@i2S_Chaotic as soon as I saw that he put it on the main channel I was worried about it
Challenge: Rest your starters. Bench rotation for the game.
Could’ve just cheese floppy. By far one of the easiest plays that end with an open shot against the cpu
Bro deadass it was killing me💀doing damn pick and rolls the whole time without calling a pin down or some shit
forfeit idea for Kenny: sign the 5 worst players, regardless of position, in free agency and have them be your starters for a week
Give Kenny a prize wheel ( Edit: call the wheel prize picks) for each challenge he completes he gets one spin
yes
Thats a great idea
If he does a prize spin, one could be something like "change trade difficulty to 30 for 1 trade of choice"
or just allow him to build one trade when he completes a challenge
Fire idea
This is my favorite 2K series ever. Not just him but all youtubers
this challenge is doable, its hardish but u can do it. gotta know how to play the game differently though like holding triangle makes your players cut offball, hold circle for a handoff, call some floppy plays, call some cut/dive plays
idea for the forfeit wheel, all ur player gotta play reverse positions, so center plays pg, power forward playes the shooting guard, and for the sf put him at the 5.
So where does the point guard go?
@@skynyrdjesus in the last available spot lol
@@itscreativedreams But that isn't opposite.
@@skynyrdjesus i don't think it's supposed to be. 5 is an odd number so one is bound to be closer than the other. pg plays pf and due to size, it basically is as hard as it gets
Forfeit: You have to make your starting five shot tendencys 25 for 3 games.
Kenny, if you hold Y or triangle with the ball another player will cut. If you hold B with the ball another player will come for a handoff. And if you press LB the player screening you will immediately dive
Forfeit or challenge wheel: in the fourth quarter you must intentionally foul out your entire starting 5 (yes this means allowing a lot of FTs in the bonus). You can pick a game where you lead by less than 10 points after 3. Try to hold on and win the game.
Alternate forfeit wheel: change every player’s free throw rating to 0 for an entire week
Need this series back Kenny ‼️
FORFEIT WHEEL: Fire your Head Coach and hire the worst candidate.
Challenge wheel: You can only shoot when it is 3 seconds or less on the shotclock
Forfeit idea : random select 2 players one starter and one bench player that’s in your rotation. Then randomly pick 1-2 on which one gets cut and traded. Ex kat and Drummond and then have cpu pick 1-2 (1. Being cut ) (2.being traded) if you pick kat first and the spin says 1 you have to cut kat and trade Drummond. ( can pick any trade you want)
bring back an actual rebuild series to KennyToo!
yes
Hey Kenny remember that “washed” to hall of fame challenge? Do it again with a new player with an added twist draft a rookie for the “washed” player to mentor and make him an all nba player (it was fun when I tried it, for an added challenge; your rookie has to be a second round pick)
Idea for trade wheel: Trade everybody from the same position. Ex: trade all your centers (position depends on random # 1-5) Good luck Kenny
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a SF
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a PF
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a C
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a SG
Chalenge wheel: make everyone a PG
Chalenge wheel: 5 man rotation in 4th q
Chalenge wheel: Random overalls for each player
Chalenge wheel: Randomize the minutes
Chalenge wheel: Random Player on Player Lock
Chalenge wheel: only dunks allowed
Chalenge wheel: lower everyones speed by 20
Chalenge wheel: lower everyones ball handle by 20
Chalenge wheel: everyone have even minutes
Chalenge wheel: make everyone 6'6 and all look and have the name of Brian Scalabrine so you dont know who anyone is or smthing like that
Chalange Wheel: Change everyones hight name and aperance so they look like each other.
Chalenge wheel: lower everyones shooting ability (3pt mid close and dunk) by 15
Chalenge wheel: lower everyones defense by 20
Chalenge wheel: lower everyones ball handle by 20
Chalenge wheel: Change everyones position randomly
Chalenge wheel: Lower everyones rebounding by 20
Chalenge wheel: Lower everyones passing by 20
Kenny, word of advice!! Quick play Floppy is a cheese play for three point shots, best shooter on the floor gets single or double screen from two players to the left or right center. Corner if the play falls apart. Favorite play in the game for a shooter that's simple. Great screens get 0 contest with a shooter wide open. Try it out!
CHALLENGE WHEEL: 1st Half: only players under 6'7 can play. 2nd Half: only players 6'7+ can play.
Trade Wheel Idea: Trade for Someone that You Traded Away Earlier in the Series
Another Trade Wheel Idea: Trade Someone on Your Team for one of Their Current Real Life Teammates
Challenge Idea: Only Shoot 3's in the First Half and Don't Shoot any 3's in the Second Half
Another Challenge Idea: Everyone on Your Team (Not Just Rotational Players) Has to Make a 3
Another Challenge Idea: Everyone on Your Team (Not Just Rotational Players) Has to Get a Dunk
Forfeit idea: let a GM finesse you on trades for 3 random players
Trade wheel idea: trade your best guard for a random center, and trade your Best center for a random PG
challenge wheel: for the 4th quarter alternate between shots from inside the arc and out side the arc. For example: first shot:dunk second shot:three third shot:mid range fourth shot: three
Challenge wheel:
1. Sticky feet, you can't make any jumps on defense. Only contests.
2. You have to win with your bench and reserves only.
3. You can't end a quarter with more than a 3 point lead. Including winning the 4th.
I miss this series 🚫🧢
Day 3 of asking Kenny to do the former all star challenge
Rules
-you must have 1 all star from the last 13 all star games
-You must have 1 former all star MVP
-You must run at least an 11 man rotation
-You must have 5 former all star starters starting on you team
-And you must 4 peat to honor Kobe’s 4 all star MVP’s
FORFEIT WHEEL: You have to drink a cup of hot sauce!!!!!!!!!!!!!
challenge idea - (no assists) First player to touch ball on offense has to keep the ball for the entire possession/no passing
Forfeit wheel:
1. You have to change all your Cs height to 5"7 until you get to trade them.
2. You have to change your SF speed to 1 for the rest of the playthrough.
3. You have to trade your oldest player for the youngest you can find.
TRADE WHEEL: You must trade your player with the highest Hustle and your player with the lowest Hustle in a package.
There’s some things you could’ve called for pass and screen away type of stuff. Also, jab steps and post moves don’t require dribbling either and create a more open look
A good forfeit challenge would be have your top bench players be the starters for one game
#ForfeitWheel Challenge: You must have EVERY member of the rotation score the same points as their Jersey Number
The can’t do it yourself duo idea: Draft two players on the same draft, one with the highest offensive potential, and one with the highest defensive potential.
Or draft one player each year to get the best out of each. Good luck!
Trade Wheel: Trade Derrick Rose, then turn him back into his prime MVP form after you trade him
kenny, you could have done a give and go with jaylen. (i use it all the time with good slashers, or slithery players, like curry, westrbrick, etc.)
The SamPham play would be perfect for this challenge: 4 out 1 in freelance set -> Call P&R with your center at almost half court -> pass/ hand off ball to center -> hold triangle so the guard cuts -> layup (if the help starts coming you can kick our for corner 3)
Kenny, you can force the screener to slip. While the p&r is showing left/right side and fade/roll you can press the p&r button (LB on xbox) and the big will slip right away.
I got a challenge....put every player on the team that drafted them. So Luka on Atlanta, Trae on Dallas, Kawahi on Indiana, etc.
Forfeit wheel: Best player plays 5 minutes the entire game
Challenge wheel: You can only shoot/score after 20 seconds of the shot clock
u should have had Kat post up and u hold triangle when Kat gets it so the player who had passed it cuts to the basket for a lay
Challenge: allow the opponent to score each possession in the 4th and win. (Ex: allow a dunk/lay up attempt or open jumper, or foul and allow free throw attempts)
Trade: Opposites Trade (PG for a C or C for a PG)
Greatest series on TH-cam! Kenny the GOAT frfr
Common missing this series
Why’d he stop it?
Kenny, remember that unboxing?If you still have that Larry legend worm up suit, me and my father always watched the Celtics games and it would be the perfect present sense his birthday is coming up.
Keep doing your thing love the videos
The “No rejection challenge”
Its a normal rebuild, but to give you an advantage you must pick the players yourself. You have to accept every single trade offered to you, and if you don't get any, you have to randomly pick a player to trade, and randomly pick which trade to accept. You must do at least 10 trades. If thats unrealistic you can adjust. Win a championship. Try to 3-peat for an additional challenge
Forfeit: you have to sim 5 games and if you don’t win 4 of the 5 you have to release all your bench players and replace them with 60 overall players
Form a big three by acquiring two superstars on too of your preferred best player
good idea
Challenge idea you can only shoot 3’s in 4th quarter
Challenge wheel: can’t be leading at the end of any quarter except the 4th
need this back
spin the forfeit wheel for the steph curry incident on kenny too
THE GOAT IS BACK WITH THE GOAT SERIES!
#nbawheel
Forfeit wheel: Release your best player to free agency and don’t resign them
Nah that’s too extreme
Chalange Wheel: Change everyones hight name and aperance so they look like each other.
Idea for the regular wheel: play a game with a rotation of 7 current/past euroleuge players (past means you can take Campazo for instance) and your highest overall player, and try to win the game.
Where is this series?!
Forfeit or trade idea: trade your best player for their worst IRL teammate
Loved the vid bro!!! Idea for a challenge: Randomize every players jumpshot. Either number generator or just closing the eyes and going. Love your channel bro keep it up!
Ask Siri pick a number and that player gets changed to a 60 ovr
Kenny... if you hold triangle your players cut to the basket. You dont have to call a pick and then wait. Also why didnt you just run floppy everytime??
Forfit idea: Trade your highest scoring player for the team you lost to lowest scoring player (10 minutes played minimum)
Kenny, you should try The Perfect Rotation Rebuild
Rules:
- Must have a 10-man rotation
- Must have two players at each position (positions can be changed)
- Each player has to play 24 minutes
- Win a championship
Bonus Try to get each player to average 10 ppg.
Good luck!
Game challenge: 10 for every stat
Each position in your starting lineup has a stat that has to reach a minimum of 10
PG- 10 ast
SG- 10 3pters
SF- 10 dunks
PF- 10 rebounds
C- 10 points of of pnr (must include one alley oop)
*I know I got a lot of likes on this last time but I did make some changes.
Kenny refreshed this whole channel with this series. Don't get me wrong, it was a fantastic channel, but now it's back to being electric.
Chalenge wheel: make everyone 6'6 and all look and have the name of Brian Scalabrine so you dont know who anyone is or smthing like that
yo Kenny I gotta idea! number gen 1-30 of the teams then 1-15 through the teams roster and pick the player it landed on and you have to player lock that player for a game and drop 30 minimum!
Forfeit: Randomize the starting 5 using random number generator
Trade: Trade your 6th best player randomly
Challenge: Win a game using no pick and roll offense
Forfeit Wheel: Make 14 consecutive shots in the gym IRL. You cannot leave the gym till you complete the challenge (obviously)
I love this series it's so entertaining
Your best player either gets traded for an 85 or lower or is out the next three games you pick which one
Wheel idea: make a realistic 3 team trade
Challenge idea: your forwards can only shoot threes and guards can not shoot any threes (so basically reversing the roles)
Forfeit idea: Close your eyes and select three players by scrolling rapidly for a bit then trade finder them and repeat the process to get the trade. You can either do three separate trades, one big trade or a two person and a single person trade.
Forfeit Wheel: You have to start 2 65-70 Overall players for the next 3 videos, with of course actual Minutes
14:00 When you have someone small like TJ Warren guarding KAT, press Triangle one to do a high pass. It makes it harder to steal vs smaller defenders
Perfect timing
Video idea: The Forever Young challenge.
You may only have players 27 years old and younger. All players must be 80+ overall unless in their rookie season, excluding players not in the rotation. Bench players must be 26 or younger (reserves included). Win 8 championships in 10 years.
Like so Kenny will see, or if you would enjoy seeing this.
I’m gonna post this on every video until he does it. This is day 1.
Put all primary position Centers(KAT counts) into one trade and take the median(middle average) trade. Regardless of what it is. If only 1 or 2 pick the first one-Punishment-
-Challenge- All 3s challenge takeover for the 3rd quarter and only take 3s or alleyoop pass are allowed from he 3 point line and back
Kenny can u do a game with a fifteen man roster (or fourteen)
Trade wheel: "Mirror trade" trade 1 of your rotation player for someone with the same POSITION, HEIGHT, WEIGHT etc... You can adjust the challenge to make it more exciting for your taste. Love your vids man
Challenge wheel idea: Give the worst player on the team all 48 minutes
kennnnnnnnnny the goat
I love these vids! keep up the good work kenny!
Me: wants kenny to win
Also Me: *wants kenny to lose so i can repost my forfeits from 2 weeks ago*:
Forfeit ideas (intended to be annoying):
-Rebrand your team's uniforms (to see your design skills)
-Turn CPU trade frequency to 100, then accept every trade for a week
-Make everyone's shot tendency 0 then simulate a game
-Make everyone have the slowest jumpshot speed then play the game
-Watch an entire game without you controlling the players or rotations
Rebuild idea: Create a wheel of nba highlights, if you can replicate the highlight you can draft the player to your team, if you can’t you have to take a 70 overall.
I thought he just hit me with the double step bro-Kenny 2022
lmao kenny’s plan didn’t work for the whole quarter, still with 10 seconds left he kept trying it 😭
Bro didn’t do a single pump fake when he was in the paint, going straight up each time😭
Kenny tip when not trying not to dribble and playing off ball... if you hold triangle one of the closest players to you cuts to the basket and hold circle to do a handoff and when you pass with X and hold it you'll be able to control the player who passed and do a give and go after u release the X and when inbound off ball u can press L1 to ask for a pick :D hope you see this and be able to help u win the no dribble challenge next time around or just be able to integrate this to your playstyle Kenny :D also Triangle + circle pump fakes the pass so if the cut is not open u may not pass it and turn it over :D