🚫Swarm Cells!! How we STOP Early Swarms!!
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- How we stop our bees from Swarming!
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I can't remember when I heard "fiddle-faddle" in a month of Sundays... Great video.
Hello Kamon,
You made reference to the propolis on the rebates of your hive walls. As a UK beekeeper of over 60 years, all my hives ( Modified Dadants ) have the rebates 1/4" to 5/16" deeper, with an aluminium metal strip set for the frames to run on, giving beespace above and below the lugs. You won't believe how much better this is for quick inspections, as it allows the whole block of frames can be levered across the hive by your hive tool against the aginst the frame side bars.
I hope I don't offend, but you seem to work hard by standing end on to the frames, whereas, standing to the side of the hive, you can leaver the frames apart much easier. The other thing I do, is I always use a division board in place of the last frame in the brood boxes. This makes it very easy to pull this board first and then you can slide half of the frames apart to quickly inspect the brood, and experience will let you get a very good idea what the stock is doing, by just lifting two or three frames. Kind regards,
Tony Marsh.
I just did this yesterday so it makes me feel like I’m headed in the right direction. Only one hive beetle spotted. Great camera work “L”, Thanks for the video.
Spent most of the day yesterday doing just that. Made several splits. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing kamon. I really appreciate you and your team showing and teaching us.
No problem 👍
Can you tell us what you did with the nuc box. Add a queen, queen cell, let them make their own? What was in the frames you put in it? I Need to be doing this with in the next month. Thanks
I would like to know the same thing
I'm always amazed how strong your colonies look. Being in KY I can usually gauge what my bees are doing within a week of you all posting your videos. God bless
Thanks! The more I baby them the better they look!
Great video! And I love your use of professional terms such as “fiddle faddle”. 😂👌🏽
Thank you! I hung out with my Papa Jim alot. He had a lot of great sayings and life lessons. Fiddle Faddle and Horse Apples were two of my favorites
First let me say Thanks for wearing a suit sometimes. My husband is Highly allergic and sees other guys wearing tank tops. Anaphylaxis isn't fun. Enough said.
This video is has been great because in NW Georgia I opened my hives the end of February to fine packed boxes and swarm cells. Took me back I'll tell you. Wasn't looking for that this time of year. Emotional wreck.
Elated to see they all wintered but one. But what do I do now, Holy Smokes.
The videos you are making now are really helping me a lot. Thanks Kamon, much appreciated.
Nice presentation. I was taught years ago never to cut out queen cells and to move the queen and a box to a new location.
I'm glad to see that a swarm can be curved if swarm cells are being built.
I'm in Southeaster Pennsylvania. With the wacky weather this spring (usually is) I finally got into the hives a little bit today. Food is fine but they are busting with bees. Plenty of Drone in capped stages too. I'll be checking the weather to see if I can get into the colonies again this week just to be sure there are no swarm cells developing. We really don't have a flow, so I'm not too concerned just yet. I didn't see any sign of an impulse. I did add more boxes for her to expand out.
Thanks Bee Bob! Hope you have a great season!
Hey there Kamon & Laurel,
This question may be very clear to you, but here I go. What will you do with all the bees you shook In to the nuc box? We have a hive showing these same signs with queen cells. We are starting our second year and have not dealt with strong spring hives until now. My husband and I are really enjoying the bees together, but so much to learn! We really enjoy your videos and live in NC in the mountains , so we feel your information is very helpful! Thanks!
Great video! Very professional and knowledgeable. I am still somewhat of a new beekeeper with two mature hives going. I just did a bee removal of a small swarm on the side of a neighbors house for for hive #3 and they are doing good so far. I cant believe how strong your colonies were for so early in the spring. Thanks again and greetings from Central Texas.
Great tutorial as always.
K&L, thanks again for another great video! I think we all have this issue to work on in the South. The cold days keeps us at bay then we get a warm day and there they go if we aren’t on top of them. I wish someone would invent a feed supplement that would take the swarm out of them! lol
Great information
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure thanks for commenting Tom
Great binformation guys.....
Great video! It's good to see Great beekeepers in real bee suits. Do you have new queens ready to go into those splits? Could you have used a frame with a couple of those big swarm cells in the nuc for them to requeen themselves?
Yes I could have used a cell but I already had queens ready to go for these bees! Also I don't want to select for early swarming behavior so I avoid using queen cells at the forefront of the season.
Thanks for the video again. Not a problem watching as always. :) So... almost like a kind of Demaree Method reduction (kinda). And yes a great queen always trumps a king drawn comb frame.
Kamon! You rock, I always learn something from your post. Going to miss you this year at the CCBA conference, you are the most adorable beeK (even over the Canuk lol)
Yes this made my day! Eat your heart out Ian!
I had questions going through the video but you answered them all by the end of the video except for the queen for the nuc but you answered that in the replies. Great video.👍
Thanks Blue Wing! Happy beekeeping!
Thanks for this video 😊
Really great video. Thank you, I learned a lot.
Up here in PA, but seeing the same thing! I think I am going to go the "split" route as I could still use a couple of colonies. Winter was warm, didn't lose any, but ended up with a super weak one and a drone layer (doing some combines.) Queens are not easy to find this early, so crossing my fingers and doing "walk-away" splits, leaving the queen cells in the new boxes. Great video as always!
Olá Mr. Kamon! Excelente video. Parabéns pelo Excelente trabalho e é bom quando tudo corre como o planeado. Saudações Apicolas de Portugal.
Thanks Kamon!
Thanks for supporting our channel Brian!
Heck yes! You made me such a better beekeeper
Thanks !!
Great video
Good stuff
Great video. 👌
We are a full month ahead of where we typically are, so did this last month with a lot of scramble-prep. I always get concerned about chilled brood when reducing the population.
Good job thanks for the videos I’m in ky helps plan the next 7 days
I have been removing queen and swarm cell since March 9. Colonies I split on the 9th and removed all queen and brood frames made more and had to split again same colony on 25th of march.
Excellent video and I liked how you reduced the population and scrapped the bottom of the frames. Great ideas Kaymon! What are your plans with the bees you shook in the nuc?
My 5th year at queen rearing. 1st time problem. Grafted 30 cells. Harvested to incubator when capped. Cups were full of royal jelly. Only 18 were finished. Placed in nucs 2 days before emergence. Pulled out today. Only 3 out of 9 emerged after 2 days later. The others were still capped with a dried up pupae inside. Still plenty of royal jelly in cup. Incubator was set at 93-94 deg. Had to be something I did to have that many bad. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks.
nice phat brood
Hi Kamon, I had a colony preparing to swarm, found 1 capped cell…. I decided to pinch the parent queen(mainly due to the nasty temperament of the colony. Shook off all frames to inspect for other cells, what do you think about this move?
2 questions why do we not want Queen cells in the the Box that you shook the bees into and what are you going to do with the bees? You shook into the Box thank you.
Same question. I would think moving a viable queen cell frame would make for a solid split.
Probably add a mated queen to the nuc box or boost colonies that are low in numbers.
I saw in another comment he said he didn’t want to breed this early swarm behavior.
I want to encourage swarming. I use two deep boxes and I need to switch to one deep and one medium due to lifting restrictions. Would less space encourage swarming in the early Spring?
Oh yes absolutely! Have you ever heard of a bee Scion? It may help you if you plan to allow bees to swarm!
Happy beekeeping!
That propolis on the end frame bar is a pita!
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Question for you... what kind, size and length nail do/should you use to build frames? I have a framing jig but not sure what size nails to use to assemble the frames or how many to put where? I'll be nailing by hand with a hammer.
so can u just do single brood chamber and shake n look for queen cells and prevent swarming
Hello Tennessee, I have two Questions. What are you going to do with the bees you shook off? And second question, if the swarm impulse continues in that colony would you consider doing another split and taking that queen with that split?
Same question, why not move a swarm cell brood frame to the shake box?
I sell Nucs this is where I get the bees to do that and I can also use these bees to raise queens
you’re welcome for the video. 😉
😁 lol 🤣
Kamon: it appears that you shook the bees off a frame from one hive into a nuc box with another frame from a different hive . Can you mix bees from different hives like that? Can I supplement a weaker hive with a couple of frames from a stronger hive? Thanks
Haha my wife came by at the end of the video and said is that Kamon what's he doing in a suit.
Lol that is awesome!
Swarms and more swarms. Ahhhh!
"we're gonna need to do some editing anyways", leaves clip in anyways :)
Hi Kamon, great video! Love your hives, because I do mine the same , I love the rustic look!😂
I'm interested to know what you would of done if you didn't spot the queen? ( I'm sure that's a rare event! )
Are your splits going to initially produce their own queen or have you already got cells/ queens? .. . Cheers Peter
You said in 5 days you'd check it and knock it down to a single box and add honey supers. So you split the hive in 2 and add honey super to both of those?? Why not just run 2 deeps? Personal preference?? Thanks in trying to learn
Why would you cut your hive to a singe deep before putting the honey supers on top as you mentioned? Would a double deep full of bees not produce more honey than a single?
Just curious Kamon, could you make a split by moving the queen with some non queen cell frames to a new box and leave the the others behind to make a new colony.
Surprised you use a 2 gal framed feeder with temps in the 50s.
You mentioned that getting rid of some of those drones may also help with varroa, but did you inspect that discarded drone brood for varroa?
Ha Kamon I was told that they do not swarm untill 1-3 days before the swarm q emerages now that was new to me ever since I have been a bee keeper I have read and watched youtube videos, that say that as soon as the swarm cell is capped they swarm what say ye thanks have a blessed day
Once they are capped they will swarm! Unless you find the queen and make a heavy split and crush all the queen cells so that they can't make a virgin swarm. Takes a while to get it out of their system if they are a day or 2 from taking off.
What would happen if you took one of those queen cells & put it into an bee'less new broodbox?
Hello !! Do we have to wait until there are swarm cells to do a split if we don’t have a queen to give the split ?
We have a booming hive this April and we’d love to split it. There may be queen cells when we inspect this weekend, but in case there aren’t… can we split and the new hive will make a queen ?? Or do we need to give them a queen / a good queen cell? We may not be able to wait for your next live chat !
Thank You
When should I start thinking I need to replace the queen? I have a really large Queen that is not laying a very good pattern at this point in the season. Honey flow is not on yet in Arkansas I am probably 10 days away. Am I worried too early or should I wait till the flow to determine if the queen needs to be replaced? All info is appreciated. Have a Good Day.
Can you keep a hive from ever swarming if you always crush the queen cells/swarm cells?
what a great video!! so well done!! man...nice looking colony!! So the whole once queen cells are capped bees are going to swarm might also be fiddle fiddle? ;)
I wonder if a person can check mites by using all that drone cone?
Was going to pose the same question until I saw this post... maybe the frames in the small box had eggs of the correct age to where they could raise their own queen? But then why not just leave a few already raised queen cells.... this new beek is kind of confused. I'm in a similar situation: seemingly overcrowded yet mine don't have queen cells (yet). Should I add a third box and pyramid? Or add a super? In my area, tallows already have candles... or should I shake a few frames of bees into a nuc box like Kamon did and donate 2 frames of brood in all stages and hope they raise their own queen? Any suggestions/help would be appreciated. Thanks from a new beek in the Houston (TX) area.
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Hello Kaymon, first i will appreciate if you could write the name of the music you've put. Second i noticed here in Lebanon that we get a swarmy year then the next year bees have a Little less swarm instinct and after it again another swarmy year. I'm wondering if you've noticed something like this.
Yes some years bees are more prone to swarm behavior than others. I think this is more due to the Flora than the bees. But that is an opinion.
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Had to do just that the last couple of weeks.
Hello by what I could see it still looked like there was lots of room for her to lay . Ya there was GOING to be a bunch hatching out real soon . With all that room to lay would that still cause them to swarm or was that one because of over crowding an not needing room . Another question I have a few hives I am wanting to change into single brood management this honey season ( now ) . My comb is now into its second season on these hives I am wanting to try . Is that comb to old to change them into honey supers. ?? THANKS
During times of swarm tendency is it ok to checking hives more than once a week?
I feel like I need to check every 3 days to keep the queen cells out. Also been splitting.
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Never mind saw your answer. Below,. Thx
Hey Kamon. Thanks for your video. They are always very informative. I do have a question about the hive you featured. I thought that a major catalyst for swarming was a hive that had limited space for the queen to lay eggs. The hive you highlighted seemed to have a good deal of space although there were a lot of bees. Can you clarify for me?
What will happen with the split?
Same question
They will be added to a small colony to boost their ranks, or given a queen I made. I gave them a queen
@@kamonreynolds How do you add them to another colony? Is there a special technique or do you just dump them in and hope they make friends?
keep posting
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Why don't you want queen cells in your splits? Seems like you'd be one step ahead if they already have wet queen cells to make a new queen and hive.
How do you know there getting ready to swarm or just attempting to raise a queen to replace the old one that might have died? I have a hive that has a bunch of queen cells but I’m not finding the queen and I’m not seeing any new eggs.
Swarm cells are along the bottoms of frames. An emergency cell is not. If you suddenly lose a queen they make emergency cells.
You can tell by the location of the cell or cells. Don't panic it sounds like you're fine
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I looked today and all but one had emerged but still no brood, eggs or larva. Hoping they are on their mating flight. The weather has been so cold that most days they don’t come out of the hive.
cant you put the frame with queen cells in nuc with extra bees for a split
Is that the normal # of shakes you do to make a nuc?
Are you putting one of your grafted queens in that nuc? Or you just putting them in a weaker hive?
I will put them in a needy hive if I have it. But this one did end up getting a queen
Some say once they get into swam mode that even with all your tricks, they go ahead with it. Seems that it basically a roll of the dice. Your just trying to use a load set.
Kamon, could you have taken another 2 frames of brood away and held them off for an extra week or two? Seems like a lot of work to keep pulling brood every 5 days to a week. Bob Binnie often takes them down to a certain level to get them to peak after the honey flow. But hey, those bees look fabulous and ready to make you some honey-money soon.
Next pull back we will drop them to a single, pull brood and add supers. That will be in 10 days or so
What if you had found capped queen cells
Pov: the bee is attacking and the keeper is smoking your face
i need those queen cells . Got some nasty..i mean Nasty bees.
Add a Caucasian Queen, I started using them a few years back and love them. They are very calm and rarely swarm. I still have some Carniolan, also a very calm bee but love to swarm.
Why didn’t you just split it? You found and isolated the queen, you have plenty of brood, plenty of bees, and queen cells.
Because I want a honey crop. This Hive should make a minimum of 80 lbs if managed proper. Plus I took enough to make a $195 nuc and I will take some more brood before adding honey supers and making honey.
OK, with the amount of brood you removed and the quantity of nurse bees you shook off, it looked like a good place to drop in a frame with a swarm cell for a new nuc. It just wasn’t covered in the oration the end use. Adding reinforcements to an existing weaker hive. You make great videos, I check daily for new content. Thank you
@@MartyHaley Thanks Marty! A swarm cell could be used but I don't like to use the early swarm cells as I believe it selects for swarmy bees. I did have my own queen to drop in though that were grafted
What do you do with the extra frames you put in the nuke