This video lays out the ridiculous recommendations of running 30, 40, and even 70 miles a week. You should NEVER be running that much milage and here is the proof in math.
I hit a 70mile last week. If anything it has made running way way easier now. 20-40 miles is a cake walk I can do it in my sleep now. Comfortably, and fast.
Chances are though you are weak at something else and could allocate some of that running time to other things. There’s no prize for running you have to be good at everything.
@@JJReal-m7x I’m definitely not perfect. It was more of a test myself type of thing. I’ve done the same with swimming in terms of high mileage weeks. In my experience it’s made my endurance much better. I’m thankful to god I haven’t been hurt, and I don’t typically overtrain. Guess I’ll see at BUDs the real results.
It’s surprising that so many guys get shin splints, stress fractures, ITB syndrome, and overuse injuries from such low running volume. I didn’t realize that BUD/S had so little running.
It’s because so many people show up either completely untrained and unprepared, took the PST and thought they were good to go because their recruiter lied and they’re locked into a contract and then others who show up overtrained or already broken from doing way too much because of listening to dummies who prescribed way too much volume. Hence the videos from Jeff on the topic.
@@JJReal-m7xwhen were you in? I could definitely see that having been an issue when guys used to have to go to A School before BUD/S. But now with Pre-BUD/S, I would think it’s very uncommon for guys to show up completely untrained.
@@JJReal-m7xno, that wouldn’t surprise me. But back in the day, SO wasn’t a source rate. Guys had to go to A School. They’d get out of shape at A School and then go straight to BUD/S. Now SO is a source rate, and guys go to Pre-BUD/S before BUD/S.
Serious marathoners from what I see typically seem to run a minimum of 100-120 miles a week. I think Kelvin Kiptum (rip) ran like 220 a week. But this is for competitive marathoners, and not for bud/s guys. Most I ever ran was probably a few month period of between 45-55 mile weeks tops, and that took everything I had and led to ITB syndrome, even after having worked up to that volume for a very long time. And then after that I don’t know if I ever hit 40 per week again.
Jeff's spot on about the mileage, certainly isnt necessary to get "good" running times for SOF standards. 70 miles/wk is collegiate running stuff for dudes running 4min miles, SOF times are SLOW compared to actual running athletes. Wrt to the calories argument Jeff makes.....meh. 70 miles a week would equate to an extra 1300cals/day, it won't be enjoyable but it's certainly achievable. World class triathletes are already expending significantly more cals in training than anyone doing strength training and an avg of 10 miles per day. Even with a 70 mile week, youre looking at maybe 3hrs/day of work between running and lifting, perhaps 4 if you dose in swimming daily. Endurance athletes prepping for competition are in excess of 8hrs per day of activity, and successfully fueling for it.
Speed has nothing to do with work. Work is Force x Displacement and force is mass x acceleration. Acceleration is a vector speed is not. So to say 3720 miles (its actually 780, not 3720) doesnt increase workload because its low speed is incorrect. You can get a used college physics textbook and learn more about this.
Been through other selections and those chow hall runs can be brutal if you aren’t properly conditioned. The chow hall runs were always a mix bag cause you had to take accountability of every student and only and had an allotted amount of time to eat at the actual hall. Then running back you had digestion and stomach issues.
6 miles a day 20 days a month is 120 a month. Is he saying Buds is 26 months long? Anyways 120 x 26 is 3120 not 3720 so he's wrong twice.@@briansperry4845
Hey Jeff! Happy 4th! What about conditioning for a fast 1.5 and 4 mile timed runs? Does higher volume help with things like cardiac output and overrall speed for those distances? Or do more speed work less volume? Currently running 20 miles a week with an 80/20% (Long slow distance/speed).
@MattPhelps-on2bl yes I did watch. It was talking about training volume related to volume at BUDS. I'm asking about improving speed for specific time intervals. Like being able to run a 6:30/mile pace for 4 miles. Going SOAS I need competitve scores higher than what is expected of me at BUDS.
@@Steelrain144 Some people do have degrees in this field and like to ask others with a similar background but more experience to gather information. Training for BUDS is obviously a balance of volume and performance but seeing as I have not been through training, I thought it would be appropriate to ask someone that has. I will further my questions directly to email as TH-cam comments seem to be anything but productive or useful.
@David-mg5jx the information is already readily available, he's put it out and the programs to achieve it. Asking the same questions for which answers are already easily found isn't a good look for ya.
It's apparent that you are a sped and can't read what he was writing. He was using 3720 miles to show why you shouldn't factor in chow hall runs for running volume. Stay in your lane, which is likely leading to you spending your entire enlistment scrubbing a fucking boat.
Breaking yourself off before you even get to selection always seemed like a terrible idea. Glad I listened to you. Thank you Jeff for your work. 💪🏼
So glad i found u Jeff. You’re programming is the real deal. Was breaking myself down running 30+ miles a week + swimming 8 miles for selection
I hit a 70mile last week. If anything it has made running way way easier now. 20-40 miles is a cake walk I can do it in my sleep now. Comfortably, and fast.
Chances are though you are weak at something else and could allocate some of that running time to other things. There’s no prize for running you have to be good at everything.
@@JJReal-m7x I’m definitely not perfect. It was more of a test myself type of thing. I’ve done the same with swimming in terms of high mileage weeks. In my experience it’s made my endurance much better. I’m thankful to god I haven’t been hurt, and I don’t typically overtrain. Guess I’ll see at BUDs the real results.
What's your weekly run mileage?
What’s your 3,4&5mi times
It’s surprising that so many guys get shin splints, stress fractures, ITB syndrome, and overuse injuries from such low running volume. I didn’t realize that BUD/S had so little running.
It’s because so many people show up either completely untrained and unprepared, took the PST and thought they were good to go because their recruiter lied and they’re locked into a contract and then others who show up overtrained or already broken from doing way too much because of listening to dummies who prescribed way too much volume. Hence the videos from Jeff on the topic.
Because in hell week you run over 200 miles in a week.
@@JJReal-m7xwhen were you in? I could definitely see that having been an issue when guys used to have to go to A School before BUD/S. But now with Pre-BUD/S, I would think it’s very uncommon for guys to show up completely untrained.
@@ChadCilli You’d be surprised how many people walk into a recruiters office and sign the dotted line before they’re ready…
@@JJReal-m7xno, that wouldn’t surprise me. But back in the day, SO wasn’t a source rate. Guys had to go to A School. They’d get out of shape at A School and then go straight to BUD/S. Now SO is a source rate, and guys go to Pre-BUD/S before BUD/S.
currently doing 25mi a week. love your vids
Serious marathoners from what I see typically seem to run a minimum of 100-120 miles a week.
I think Kelvin Kiptum (rip) ran like 220 a week.
But this is for competitive marathoners, and not for bud/s guys.
Most I ever ran was probably a few month period of between 45-55 mile weeks tops, and that took everything I had and led to ITB syndrome, even after having worked up to that volume for a very long time. And then after that I don’t know if I ever hit 40 per week again.
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Jeff's spot on about the mileage, certainly isnt necessary to get "good" running times for SOF standards. 70 miles/wk is collegiate running stuff for dudes running 4min miles, SOF times are SLOW compared to actual running athletes.
Wrt to the calories argument Jeff makes.....meh. 70 miles a week would equate to an extra 1300cals/day, it won't be enjoyable but it's certainly achievable. World class triathletes are already expending significantly more cals in training than anyone doing strength training and an avg of 10 miles per day. Even with a 70 mile week, youre looking at maybe 3hrs/day of work between running and lifting, perhaps 4 if you dose in swimming daily. Endurance athletes prepping for competition are in excess of 8hrs per day of activity, and successfully fueling for it.
Speed has nothing to do with work. Work is Force x Displacement and force is mass x acceleration. Acceleration is a vector speed is not. So to say 3720 miles (its actually 780, not 3720) doesnt increase workload because its low speed is incorrect. You can get a used college physics textbook and learn more about this.
@@birdis9476 but can you read it ,on the run 🏃
Oh yes your rudimentary understanding of reading a textbook has more validity than the entirety of olympians and coaches like Jeff. Makes sense
Been through other selections and those chow hall runs can be brutal if you aren’t properly conditioned.
The chow hall runs were always a mix bag cause you had to take accountability of every student and only and had an allotted amount of time to eat at the actual hall. Then running back you had digestion and stomach issues.
If you can comfortably run 7 minute miles you’ll be fine
It’s a shuffle run though not super fast
@@JJReal-m7xI’ve been through selection already.
@@Dhdjdjsjdjsjkat recon the runs were fast, until the class dwindled down.
You are the best Jeff
Jeff your Newtonian multiplication seems off. 120 miles a month for chow over 26 weeks is 780 not 3720.
"here's the math" - Jeff @@Steelrain144
But there’s 4 weeks in a month so he’s correct 780
@@briansperry4845 he said 3720. I said 780. And 120x26 is 3120 not 3720
6 miles a day 20 days a month is 120 a month. Is he saying Buds is 26 months long? Anyways 120 x 26 is 3120 not 3720 so he's wrong twice.@@briansperry4845
@jakezweig thoughts on this????
Amazing content. Fully explained, completely understandable.
His math and physics are wrong though.
Buds isn't 26 months long and 120 x 26 does not equal 3720.
Jeff have you seen Jake Zweig's PDF? What do you think about it?
That's not Jake's pdf. He says it's the navy's
@@lamartruth6601He just asked if the guy has seen it, not if this is that pdf dude
Jeff you should check this math with a college physics 1 textbook.
Today is Thursday and I'm at 2 miles for the week and i'm thinkin I'm doin pretty good, haha!
Hey Jeff! Happy 4th! What about conditioning for a fast 1.5 and 4 mile timed runs? Does higher volume help with things like cardiac output and overrall speed for those distances? Or do more speed work less volume? Currently running 20 miles a week with an 80/20% (Long slow distance/speed).
Did you even watch the video? Just do his programs and you’ll be fine.
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@MattPhelps-on2bl yes I did watch. It was talking about training volume related to volume at BUDS. I'm asking about improving speed for specific time intervals. Like being able to run a 6:30/mile pace for 4 miles. Going SOAS I need competitve scores higher than what is expected of me at BUDS.
@@Steelrain144 Some people do have degrees in this field and like to ask others with a similar background but more experience to gather information. Training for BUDS is obviously a balance of volume and performance but seeing as I have not been through training, I thought it would be appropriate to ask someone that has. I will further my questions directly to email as TH-cam comments seem to be anything but productive or useful.
@David-mg5jx the information is already readily available, he's put it out and the programs to achieve it. Asking the same questions for which answers are already easily found isn't a good look for ya.
3720 miles over 26, 5 day weeks is over 28 miles per day, not 6. Might wanna check that math sir.
Where did you get 3720 miles from?
It's apparent that you are a sped and can't read what he was writing. He was using 3720 miles to show why you shouldn't factor in chow hall runs for running volume. Stay in your lane, which is likely leading to you spending your entire enlistment scrubbing a fucking boat.
@@erikdavies3435 this video
All his math is wrong. If you run 120 miles a month to chow over 26 weeks it's 780 not 3720. And 120 x 26 is 3120 not 3720 @@JohnDoe-yv4lg
@@JohnDoe-yv4lgwhy would he say 120 x 26 is 3720? That's not true.
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