@@ErikDayne Lance had several years to do plenty for the Niners. They have OTA, training camps, etc. Lance has been in Dallas now for several seasons. Still has not done squat and their starting QB Dak was out most of the season.
@@greglyon1402no, Lance had 2 games to prove himself with the 49ers. In 3 years with the team he wasn’t even allowed to compete for QB1 twice, and the one time they committed to him as a starter he got hurt and never got the chance again. Of course who can blame them for sticking with the replacement who always stays healthy, oh yeah that’s right Purdy has ended 2 of his 3 seasons injured as well.
I’m a 49ers fan. I follow the team in the offseason. I watch their press conferences. His first year they said after the draft Jimmy G was the starter and his third year they said Brock was the starter. The team themselves said Lance wasn’t competing for QB1 his first or third year, so this idea that he had the chance to start and couldn’t get it done is nonsense. Not to mention everyone knew he was a raw prospect that needed time to develop so expecting him to come in and win a QB competition against a proven starter was a tall ask in the first place. Notice how every other team that took a QB in that draft made them the starter their first year. Yeah those QBs didn’t work out but at least they saw them play so they know for sure. We know what Mac Jones is but it’s still a mystery what Lance could be because he’s never gotten the chance to play consistently.
Brock earned his job… and worked his azz off… he DID NOT SAVE Kyle or John’s job… stop with that lazy nonsense!!! If Trey doesn’t get hurt… you don’t ever hear Brock’s name…. Knock it off
Brock is the 49ers' starting QB and he's going to get starting QB money, around $50M, but not reset the market type money. According to Kyle, Brock is going to be the starting QB while he's the HC in SF. They must not have been paying attention in last season's playoffs because Brock's improvisation brought the 49ers back against the Packers and Lions. Kyle had a long history of not coming back when trailing in the 4th- Brock changed that. It's not all physical with QB- Brock makes better decisions than the average QB which is why he's the starter and not Darnold or Dobbs.
For a guy that has Kyle Shanahan’s initials tattooed on his body Chris Simm doesn’t really seem to know Kyle Shanahan Like does Chris know Kyle didn’t even call the plays for Dobbs that last game?
Purdy saved SF's season, Lynch and Shanahan's blunder drafts at QB to a SB; he's paid. You wouldn't, didn't, and won't draft a Purdy who beat out Darnold, Jimmy, and Try; Shanny will.
Just think where the Niners would be if they didn't draft Lance. That could be three first picks starting this past season for the Niners improving their offensive line and defense.
@@greglyon1402 They'd never have to draft Brock as 3rd string-blessing in disguise but lack of QB evaluation was for 1st round and 7th rounder, they lucked out. Griese liked him.
"He was the last pick in the draft for a reason!" Yes Mike, but the reason is that he was overlooked. How many MISSES does it take for you to realize that this draft-picking-stuff is like roulette to some teams? Very few teams have the infrastructure in place to use their draft as a weapon instead of a wishlist...
What’s so funny about this argument is that in his few years at Iowa State he was a late first early second round prospect with all the same measurables and then a lot of upheaval at the program which correlated with a dip in his play too his senior year tanked his draft stock but he had a better college career than multiple QBs in his draft class he just happened to fall. Purdy’s proven he’s better than his draft status and if we let teams miss in the draft with early picks they should be allowed to hit on late picks
The point is Purdy was the last pick because he’s lacking in physical traits. Which means his mental game needs to be exceptional to compensate. Which means he can’t afford to miss throws or open receivers. His accuracy and decision making need to be almost perfect for him to succeed, and if they’re not then he’s average at best. Seems like a small margin for error if you’re trying to beat other great teams and QBs to win a Super Bowl.
@@greglyon1402 they found George Kittle, Talanoa Hufanga, and Deommodore Lenoir in the 5th too. Juaun Jennings in the 7th, and multiple starters on their team were UDFAs
Not a random guy, but if a seventh round pick can do it, it’s not impossible they could get someone even better in rounds 2-4. You can’t say it’s impossible because Purdy himself proves it’s possible.
@@EflowNivekI didn’t say it was guaranteed I said it wasn’t impossible. But I would take that shot because it seems obvious if Brock can’t get it done making $1 million against the cap, he’s never gonna get it done making $50-60 million against the cap. It’s not just about the player it’s about the value they provide in relation to their contract. A second round pick that’s slightly worse than Brock would be much better value due to the incredibly lower cap hit.
So, what we're saying is that the guy who was number 1 in QBR the last two years, an MVP Finalist, who led his team to two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl, and in a year where his whole team was ravaged by injuries is still 7th in QBR and 100 yards less in passing yards than Mahomes with one fewer game played is worth $25-30 million? There are 9 QB's over $50 million APY right now, and even broken down Kirk Cousins is making $45 million a year at 36 with a torn Achilles. If you franchise tagged Purdy today (which you can't), he'd make $38 million, fully guaranteed, and it all hits the cap this year. It will be more next year, probably over $40. You don't have to do what the Cowboys or Browns did and make it so the cap hit is extreme, you can do what the Eagles did and make it so the cap hit is actually pretty reasonable. And that's what the Niners have done with all their big deals. Aiyuk's cap hit this year was $5.9 million, and next year it's about $11 million. The last year of his rookie deal, it would have been $14 million. Simms showing he doesn't know about salary caps, QB markets, or QB play, and Florio also showing that neither of these guys watch the game or tape.
@@YuriiSaikothey would basically be punting on the rest of the time with all of the other highly paid players they have under contract, if they don't sign him. They're not in position to get a top rookie QB (there debatably isn't even one in this class, outside of maybe Cam Ward). There's not a real veteran solution, other than whatever Cousins, Rodgers and Russ have left (if anything). The other QBs that might be available are projects like Fields, Levis, or a bunch of backups like Daniel Jones. Purdy would look even better, if SF would actually invest in the offensive line, outside of one Hof, but older and aging player.
@@zackhurwitz9441 dude, sorry, but you are a little bit delusional about 49ers. Unless they bring a legit QB who brings hope to their aging team on big contracts that they can win a SB - they need to go for a rebuild, cause nobody busting their asses for Brock Purdy. This draft class is sucks, but next one looks like will be better.
He is fooling himself if he thinks Baker isn't going to force TB to rework his contract. He took the hometown discount because they took a chance on him.
What people don’t seem to understand is that teams don’t pay players because they’re good, they pay them because they sell tickets and because that’s what the market dictates. Get used to it.
@@Dreamwunderyou say “duh” as if you assume all those teams actually think Purdy is elite. I’m not so sure. The media has certainly built him up but that doesn’t mean GMs across the league agree.
As a hawks fan, please don’t speak for us. I legit got a party game planned this weekend around SF payin Purdy ✌🏾He’s great! Yall should pay him $55M+/yr.
Y’all are crazy af smh it’s what the market is period smh it’s funny these analysts dont understand! Tua Dak Jalen had terrible yrs and nothing is said because that’s what QBs are going! He really asked if Purdy has made any plays 🤦♂️
@@brocksmith2298we actually didn’t see how it worked out with Trey. They committed to him as the starting QB for a grand total of 2 games. They didn’t just hand him the starting job like they did with Purdy.
@ and that’s fine but you were perfectly healthy on two teams where you were a 3rd sting qb behind Rush and Allen and that tells you all you need to know! Either way let’s say he’s good obviously this coaching staff couldn’t get it out of him and that’s with the pressure of knowing they gave away all those draft picks!
@@brocksmith2298I’m not saying Lance is good I’m saying he was a raw prospect that needed to play to develop and so far in 4 years he’s started 5 games. If they weren’t ready to commit to letting a rookie QB develop they should have made a bigger offer to get Stafford or just rode it out with Jimmy G. It’s not Lance’s fault he was a raw prospect everyone knew that before the draft.
Niner fan here been telling people everything Chris has been saying and they just push back just like with jimmy people are delusional until they are forced to see the truth Kyle has been using backups his whole time in SF it would be great if Kyle could get a real qb then we can really see things take off
Uh, 1stQ. 1st half they scored 17. 24 by the 3rdQ. So none of the points came in garbage time vs a defense playing soft coverage if that was the point you were trying to make.
Dobbs had a QB rating of 86.0 against the Cardinals with 2 INT. I didn't realize Purdy's arm wasn't strong until I saw Dobbs rocketing it across the field and Dobbs is noticeably faster running than Purdy. Difference is Dobbs makes worse decisions than Purdy- he doesn't have a feel for the pocket and gets sacked, he forces the ball into covered receivers and gets picked.
But Chris simms wasn't asking for 50-60 million a year.....purdy is average. His numbers this year were pathetic. 20 tds and 12 ints is bad bro. That's not good numbers at all.
@@TigerBlood4403 purdy had less ints than Mahomes and his qbr was better than Mahomes stafford stroud baker hurts Darnold Tua dak Herbert. lol guess these other QBs had even worse year than terrible
@@Dreamwunder that’s true, but compare his stats to QB’s like Dak, Tua, Hurts, and Herbert the year before they got the big contract. They were coming off of much better seasons than Purdy this year, which gave them more negotiating leverage.
@@Dreamwunder did you just compare mahomes to brock purdy??? 🤣🤣🤣 how many mvps does purdy have? How many Superbowls? I would take every single QB you just mentioned over purdy. Dude can't throw a deep ball if his life depended on it. He can't even throw the ball when it rains or snows.......I feel stupid for just even typing that last sentence. What pro QB cannot throw in rain or snow??? Purdy definitely can't and you wanna pay this man top dollar??? Cmon now.
Top 20? Try top 10. In his worst season he's still 7th in QBR. He has the 49er record for most passing yards in a season, and the fastest 49er to score 50 touchdowns in a career. Without someone like Jerry Rice to throw to. Stop the BS. Pay the kid.
He's not "Lamar or Burrow" elite -- but he's a darn good QB. Several teams would LOVE to sign him in free agency. AND, they'll sign him for a Geno Smith type contract... $35M/yr, plus incentives to make another $2-6 mill, with an opt-out after 2 years. Raiders, Browns, Giants, Tenn, Indy, Jets, all NEED a QB... literally nobody in the building that's suitable. Purdy would take $35-38M because if he doesn't get a contract and has to play another year at $1.1M, then he's losing literally $10M/yr on a 3-yr contract...
Phil comparing Brock to baker, baker signed that deal 2 years ago when he had one decent season with his team. When he resigns soon, it will be for $45+.
I think they should give him 2/75 or 3/115 & then he gets back to the negotiating table after making a quick buck. Put a couple voidable years on the end to make it look better and to give them flexibility with the cap. Then he can hit the market again at/below 30 & collect bigger checks
Simms is an idiot. The only real time Brock doesn't hit a play (i.e. Superbowl) is when the OL collapses immediately and he can't scramble. But that's going to screw any QB. Even Mahomes.
Chris Jones coming up the middle unblocked on a potential game winning touchdown did not even get the sack as Purdy tossed the ball away. Ninety percent of the QBs in the league would have been sacked.
I got thinking about my “elite” group. One guy I didn’t mention but maybe should have: Jayden Daniels. It’s just a bit too early maybe. But Jayden has elite skills, that’s for sure. Terrific passer - quick release, tight throwing motion, strong arm, very accurate - a ridiculous runner - I’ve seen deer with slower acceleration ;-) - AND he seems like a smart guy too. PLUS he’s a great “character” guy too. My gut tells me Jayden is the new NFL QB prototype. Man, I will tell you: the Commanders absolutely lucked out having Jayden drop in their laps. (Simms is way off here on Purdy. What about the Vikings? Purdy is definitely better than Darnold. If Purdy is a Vikings he’s hitting most of those passes to Justin Jefferson against the Lions.)
@@nathangothan601not really. Even if the state takes half he’s still making $500,000 a year. If you’re smart you could make that last a lifetime. Buy a house for $250-300k, buy a car for $25-30k, and invest $100k. No mortgage, no car payment, and the money you invested will produce a profit going forward.
the niners got all the leverage in this situation. no other team would offer more than 30 mil for purdy but he may the kind of guy that is fine with that.
@@Washington-Dreaming they just drafted JJ McCarthy 10th overall last year... lol theyre going to use him if they dont want to stay with Darnold who has had a better year than Purdy this season
How did the niners take their time to get a better deal and the Cowboys take their time to pay way above market value. I hope they pay him 50 million a year.
No he’s a good QB but if you pay a good QB like they’re a top 5 QB you’re not gonna be getting full value out of that contract and you’ll be at a disadvantage
5 years $200 mil fully guaranteed. Pay the kid for what he has done for the franchise by giving him the guarantee, but at $40mil a year with a rising cap, it doesn’t hurt the team as a whole.
Chris thinks Sam Darnold could do the things Brock does and then some... so essentially, he thinks Kyle knows f' all about qb play. Sam got most of the reps in the offseason when SF had him and Brock was coming off a major surgery on his throwing arm. Kyle could have easily said Brock is still working through something and gone with Sam but he didn't... because there was a clear difference.
It's because Sam has a stronger arm and they over value that. If Darnold had been in SF this year he would have struggled big time. They would still be 6-11 or worse.
What reason do we have to think Kyle knows anything about QBs? He passed on drafting Mahomes, passed on signing Brady, traded for Jimmy G, gave Jimmy G a huge contract, traded for Trey Lance to replace Jimmy G but stuck with Jimmy G anyway, then replaced Lance with Purdy who he passed on drafting with their 3 sixth round picks that year. Oh and they let Darnold go who just had a borderline MVP season. Let’s not act like Kyle has this great track record at QB, his record at QB is abysmal so it’s fair to assume his future decisions at QB will be wrong too.
This logic is easily defeated. Kyle had Trey, Jimmy, and Brock in 2022. Jimmy was off to the side rehabbing with no contract. Kyle easily could have put Brock ahead of Jimmy saying he was still working through something *and* had not camp, but he didn't... because there was a clear difference???
@@kiku-h7r Jimmy was a veteran and Brock was a rookie. He had seen that Jimmy could run the offense at baseline in actual games. He has said Brock was the best QB in that camp because he was the most consistent. But you never know if that would have worked in actual games. Should he have given him a chance earlier in that season? Absolutely, but you can kind of understand why he was hesitant.
Let’s stop it. The receiving core Kirk had pre Justin Jefferson was better than the 49ers receivers and that one consisted diggs and prime theilan. What Purdy has done with these weapons is amazing. He even helped kick aiyuk’s game up a notch. The dude just wins. Except for the season when all of his weapons minus kittle are hurt, the defense can’t stay healthy, and the kicker can’t hit a field goal. Kirk also did nothing in the playoffs. The dude can play, he obviously battled injuries this year also. Give that man his money.
Some of the takes in this segment beggar belief. Brock is workmanlike and has no big plays where he scrambles and .akes something???? like wtf, there's a highlight reel of him doing exactly that. For sure there's stuff you can criticize him on, but please keep it real and factual.
that's not going to happen. Brock's got 2 divisional title and 1 NFC Championship. He will get paid. The media said the same for Sam Darnold and look what Sam is doing now. He will get paid.
Not this year. This year top ten is Lamar, Josh, Joe, Justin, Jayden, Jordan, Jared, Pat, Jalen, Sam. Maybe Baker. Then in the 12-15 group is Tua, Brock, Matt, Kyler. 2023: Dak, Brock, Kirk, and Matt were in the top 10 replacing Jayden, Sam, Baker, and Joe (who was not good in 2023). With Jared & Jalen battling Tua & CJ. 2022: Pat, Josh, Tua, Jalen, Jared, Joe, Justin with Lamar, Geno, Dak, Daniel Jones. W/ the mid 11-17 being Tom, Derek, Trevor, Kyler, Matt, Kirk, Jimmy G. Think I would put Brock at 11 here ahead of Brady even though he only played 5 games.
That’s not even the issue the problem is with his disadvantage athletically he needs to be incredibly consistent with his accuracy and reading defenses. Any mistakes in those areas are magnified because he doesn’t have enough speed to routinely escape the rush and he doesn’t have the arm strength to fit the ball into tight windows.
They are talking out of their arses. Purdy literally carried the Niners vs the packers and lions last year. It was his off schedule plays that won them the game. Kyle's play calling is horrible when trailing in games.
As somebody who’s watched every Brock Purdy snap, a year ago listening to this, I would have said they were crazy and unfair. After this year, I think they have a point. Purdy threw some really bad INTs and didn’t elevate the team when he didn’t have Aiyuk, CMC and Williams there. I think slightly above Baker Mayfield’s contract is fair
@ every qb throws picks… it’s football!!!! But be so fr. Question before Purdy when did Aiyuk have a 1k season I’ll wait. When has Jennings had over 500 yards before Purdy? Did you even watch the lions or bucs game this year I’m pretty sure he utilized Ricky Pearsall!?
Purdy did the best he could with receivers that can't separate. PFF has the 49ers dead last in receiver separation. Purdy is the 49ers best option and he's going to get starting QB money around $50M.
They always give Kyle too much credit. Kyle has been in SF 8 years, he's never had a better QB. So if they let Purdy go, are we going to wait another 8 years for better QB play?
Purdy is a top 10 quarterback.... this is his 3rd season... he has been to 2 NFC championships and 1 superbowl that we would have won if the defense gets that stop on 4th down of overtime. I hope brock takes a team friendly deal but 20 million???? LOL u both sound ridiculous
As a niner fan I agree. With all the guys Purdy is awesome but if you lose most of those guys because he makes too much money it will destroy our team. I honestly would shoot for low 40’s with a max around mid 40’s.
There is no way in this world that Purdy will take $40 million a year. I believe he will get at least $50 million a year and the Niners will give it to him.
Why would they lose those guys? Geebus do you understand how the NFL works? Philly just paid their QB top money. Yet they still signed BOTH teier wr's and brought in Barkley.
Chris Simms, not athletic enough to make it as a player, and not smart enough to have any relevance as a broadcaster. Mr. Simms, please name the 19 quarterbacks in this league that are better than Brock Purdy. Simms would play in the Shannahan system and still be pedestrian AF.
17 Qbs better/debatably/close enough: Pat M Joe B Lamar J Josh A Matt S Kyler M Baker M Jared G Sam D Dak P JHerb Jayden D CJ S J Love Jalen H Tua T Geno S Thats not even accounting for sleepers who are more talented: Caleb W, Drake M, Trevor L, Bo N, Pretty good take off the top of his head
@@JuiceManJ91lmao cj stroud after one hype rookie year is having terrible second year like ranked 27th out of QBs. You gotta be joking when purdy played better while missing wr1 rb1,2,3,4 and entire OL line. Bias is so real
A franchise QB is not Aiyuk or Deebo. They've seen how Jerry Jones' fiddling with Dak turned out. Their decision is made, but Brock is going to have to accept a number that doesn't destroy the team. He needs to let the team invest in an Oline and field a decent defense. The Me-first QBs who aren't quite capable of carrying the whole show are team-killers. The collapse at Dallas is largely the doing of Dak Prescott.
I think mid 40s would be solid for both parties at like 3 years. If Brock doesnt live up, its only upper-mid market and short term. If he plays great, then hes in line for a big time payday in a few years or maybe an early extension
Russell wilson, sam darnold and brok purdy will be the highest paid qb's in the league next year. There is always a team that thinks they know more then everybody else. P.S. Rex ryan and pete carrol are being considered for HC in todays nfl.
Brock saved Lynch and Kyle's job. 3 1st rd picks for Lance who didn't do squat....any other coach GM be fired for that. Brock saved them
Lance didn’t have a chance to do anything they started him for a total of 4 games
@@ErikDayne Lance had several years to do plenty for the Niners. They have OTA, training camps, etc. Lance has been in Dallas now for several seasons. Still has not done squat and their starting QB Dak was out most of the season.
@@greglyon1402no, Lance had 2 games to prove himself with the 49ers. In 3 years with the team he wasn’t even allowed to compete for QB1 twice, and the one time they committed to him as a starter he got hurt and never got the chance again. Of course who can blame them for sticking with the replacement who always stays healthy, oh yeah that’s right Purdy has ended 2 of his 3 seasons injured as well.
I’m a 49ers fan. I follow the team in the offseason. I watch their press conferences. His first year they said after the draft Jimmy G was the starter and his third year they said Brock was the starter. The team themselves said Lance wasn’t competing for QB1 his first or third year, so this idea that he had the chance to start and couldn’t get it done is nonsense. Not to mention everyone knew he was a raw prospect that needed time to develop so expecting him to come in and win a QB competition against a proven starter was a tall ask in the first place. Notice how every other team that took a QB in that draft made them the starter their first year. Yeah those QBs didn’t work out but at least they saw them play so they know for sure. We know what Mac Jones is but it’s still a mystery what Lance could be because he’s never gotten the chance to play consistently.
Brock earned his job… and worked his azz off… he DID NOT SAVE Kyle or John’s job… stop with that lazy nonsense!!!
If Trey doesn’t get hurt… you don’t ever hear Brock’s name….
Knock it off
you couldn’t have said “i never watched purdy” more clear then this f in vid bro 😭😭
He's getting 55 million. They love him. The fans love him.
The fans and teammates loved Jimmy G too. Maybe we shouldn’t let the locker room or chat rooms decide who the starting QB is.
@Matt-lq6zk why? Shanahan took jimmy to SB so don't say he got to SB lol
@@ErikDayne you can't really compare the two. Purdy was in the MVP conversation last year...
Give him 65
@@Matt-lq6zkweakest mvp race btw
The last pick being able to get a 4 million dollar contract is insane man.
Ridiculous
Some of you won’t ever see a 100,000$ nothing wrong with 4millie for a scrub
Isn't minimum $750k a year anyway?
When Chris Simms said that Purdy was Mid early last year everyone got upset. After that season I guess he was 💯 correct
Tua, Dak, Trevor all got paid recently were hurt this year. He will get market value whether you like it or not.
simms is clueless
@america1st721 He went to a superbowl and made a pro bowl last year. He is not taking 35.
@@karenhardie1132 that's what I said
@@america1st721 I hope he gets a big bag. He has earned it. 🙂
The rest of the division will rejoice.
that SuperBowl hangover is really real
Brock is the 49ers' starting QB and he's going to get starting QB money, around $50M, but not reset the market type money. According to Kyle, Brock is going to be the starting QB while he's the HC in SF. They must not have been paying attention in last season's playoffs because Brock's improvisation brought the 49ers back against the Packers and Lions. Kyle had a long history of not coming back when trailing in the 4th- Brock changed that. It's not all physical with QB- Brock makes better decisions than the average QB which is why he's the starter and not Darnold or Dobbs.
No he won’t
For a guy that has Kyle Shanahan’s initials tattooed on his body Chris Simm doesn’t really seem to know Kyle Shanahan
Like does Chris know Kyle didn’t even call the plays for Dobbs that last game?
Doubtful.
“Like does”?😂
Purdy saved SF's season, Lynch and Shanahan's blunder drafts at QB to a SB; he's paid. You wouldn't, didn't, and won't draft a Purdy who beat out Darnold, Jimmy, and Try; Shanny will.
Just think where the Niners would be if they didn't draft Lance. That could be three first picks starting this past season for the Niners improving their offensive line and defense.
@@greglyon1402 They'd never have to draft Brock as 3rd string-blessing in disguise but lack of QB evaluation was for 1st round and 7th rounder, they lucked out. Griese liked him.
"Yeah he got to the super bowl but he wasn't as good as the greatest qb to ever play the game." - Simms with an absolute brain dead take.
The sad fact is that Purdy outplayed him for almost the entire game and it was not even CLOSE!
Second greatest. Can’t beat Brady in afc championship, got humiliated in a Super Bowl. Can’t be the goat
"He was the last pick in the draft for a reason!"
Yes Mike, but the reason is that he was overlooked. How many MISSES does it take for you to realize that this draft-picking-stuff is like roulette to some teams? Very few teams have the infrastructure in place to use their draft as a weapon instead of a wishlist...
What’s so funny about this argument is that in his few years at Iowa State he was a late first early second round prospect with all the same measurables and then a lot of upheaval at the program which correlated with a dip in his play too his senior year tanked his draft stock but he had a better college career than multiple QBs in his draft class he just happened to fall. Purdy’s proven he’s better than his draft status and if we let teams miss in the draft with early picks they should be allowed to hit on late picks
lol tell him Kurt Warner went undrafted
Fred Warner was a fifth round pick if I recall.
The point is Purdy was the last pick because he’s lacking in physical traits. Which means his mental game needs to be exceptional to compensate. Which means he can’t afford to miss throws or open receivers. His accuracy and decision making need to be almost perfect for him to succeed, and if they’re not then he’s average at best. Seems like a small margin for error if you’re trying to beat other great teams and QBs to win a Super Bowl.
@@greglyon1402 they found George Kittle, Talanoa Hufanga, and Deommodore Lenoir in the 5th too. Juaun Jennings in the 7th, and multiple starters on their team were UDFAs
Surprised we still listen to Simms
I do, just to point out how dog water his takes are. It's a fun way to kill 5 minutes.
You just don’t like the fact he’s not a great quarterback and everyone outside of the 9ers organization is telling you this
Since any guy can do it, they should cut him and just pick up a random guy who has never played football before.
Not a random guy, but if a seventh round pick can do it, it’s not impossible they could get someone even better in rounds 2-4. You can’t say it’s impossible because Purdy himself proves it’s possible.
@@ErikDayne Yeah because Beathard was *great* with Shanahan
@@EflowNivekI didn’t say it was guaranteed I said it wasn’t impossible. But I would take that shot because it seems obvious if Brock can’t get it done making $1 million against the cap, he’s never gonna get it done making $50-60 million against the cap. It’s not just about the player it’s about the value they provide in relation to their contract. A second round pick that’s slightly worse than Brock would be much better value due to the incredibly lower cap hit.
Hating on the failure system of the draft lol come on guys the guy can play better then most QBs in the league. Salty media 😂
The hate is so real... say he gets 35 and he wins the Super Bowl next year then what would they say
@@Tonytouch518 “the avengers are back to carry purdy” 😒 like every other winning qb in the league doesn’t have weapons lol
So, what we're saying is that the guy who was number 1 in QBR the last two years, an MVP Finalist, who led his team to two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl, and in a year where his whole team was ravaged by injuries is still 7th in QBR and 100 yards less in passing yards than Mahomes with one fewer game played is worth $25-30 million? There are 9 QB's over $50 million APY right now, and even broken down Kirk Cousins is making $45 million a year at 36 with a torn Achilles.
If you franchise tagged Purdy today (which you can't), he'd make $38 million, fully guaranteed, and it all hits the cap this year. It will be more next year, probably over $40. You don't have to do what the Cowboys or Browns did and make it so the cap hit is extreme, you can do what the Eagles did and make it so the cap hit is actually pretty reasonable. And that's what the Niners have done with all their big deals. Aiyuk's cap hit this year was $5.9 million, and next year it's about $11 million. The last year of his rookie deal, it would have been $14 million.
Simms showing he doesn't know about salary caps, QB markets, or QB play, and Florio also showing that neither of these guys watch the game or tape.
Cousins, Aiyuk, and other stuff are exact freaking reasons NOT to sign Purdy for big money.
@@YuriiSaikothey would basically be punting on the rest of the time with all of the other highly paid players they have under contract, if they don't sign him.
They're not in position to get a top rookie QB (there debatably isn't even one in this class, outside of maybe Cam Ward).
There's not a real veteran solution, other than whatever Cousins, Rodgers and Russ have left (if anything). The other QBs that might be available are projects like Fields, Levis, or a bunch of backups like Daniel Jones.
Purdy would look even better, if SF would actually invest in the offensive line, outside of one Hof, but older and aging player.
@@zackhurwitz9441 dude, sorry, but you are a little bit delusional about 49ers. Unless they bring a legit QB who brings hope to their aging team on big contracts that they can win a SB - they need to go for a rebuild, cause nobody busting their asses for Brock Purdy. This draft class is sucks, but next one looks like will be better.
Also keep in mind that if SF doesn't keep him -- what are their options? They won't be drafting top 3 to draft a QB any time this decade
We can always find quarterback
Purdy is a more athletic Drew Brees!
I don't understand why Chris shits on Purdy? It's not rooted in facts. Purdy is top 10, top 5 even in most categories. He's an elite QB.
Because his stats are alright but he'd only be the starter on like 8 other teams at best
@@travissapienza4930- what are you basing that on? He's been elite since his first game as a rookie. He could play anywhere.
@@claymac7895 saints, panthers, giants, jets, dolphins, raiders, browns, titans, colts
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Chris Simms is JEALOUS of Brock Purdy, that's why.
Baker Mayfield was absolutely stupid to accept the deal he did.
don't forget Baker had bounced around teams and had a history of personal issues.
He is fooling himself if he thinks Baker isn't going to force TB to rework his contract. He took the hometown discount because they took a chance on him.
Baker was on his 4th team in 4 years. So it made sense at the time, but he wouldn't sign it if they put it in front of him today.
Baker had to prove himself that’s what great quarterbacks do
What people don’t seem to understand is that teams don’t pay players because they’re good, they pay them because they sell tickets and because that’s what the market dictates. Get used to it.
If you don't pay him the Seahawks would love to pay him.
Would they? I’m not sure which other teams would pay Purdy $50 million a year or more.
@@ErikDayneSeahawks raiders Cleveland basically any teams needing qb duh
So would the Vikings.
@@Dreamwunderyou say “duh” as if you assume all those teams actually think Purdy is elite. I’m not so sure. The media has certainly built him up but that doesn’t mean GMs across the league agree.
As a hawks fan, please don’t speak for us. I legit got a party game planned this weekend around SF payin Purdy ✌🏾He’s great! Yall should pay him $55M+/yr.
Y’all are crazy af smh it’s what the market is period smh it’s funny these analysts dont understand! Tua Dak Jalen had terrible yrs and nothing is said because that’s what QBs are going! He really asked if Purdy has made any plays 🤦♂️
And if the market for gas station sushi was $50, you could just not buy it
@ people can do anything they want and so can owners! If they wanna go looking for a qb again be my guest, we all saw how that worked out with Trey 🤣
@@brocksmith2298we actually didn’t see how it worked out with Trey. They committed to him as the starting QB for a grand total of 2 games. They didn’t just hand him the starting job like they did with Purdy.
@ and that’s fine but you were perfectly healthy on two teams where you were a 3rd sting qb behind Rush and Allen and that tells you all you need to know! Either way let’s say he’s good obviously this coaching staff couldn’t get it out of him and that’s with the pressure of knowing they gave away all those draft picks!
@@brocksmith2298I’m not saying Lance is good I’m saying he was a raw prospect that needed to play to develop and so far in 4 years he’s started 5 games. If they weren’t ready to commit to letting a rookie QB develop they should have made a bigger offer to get Stafford or just rode it out with Jimmy G. It’s not Lance’s fault he was a raw prospect everyone knew that before the draft.
If it wasn't for brock purdy Kyle or lynch would of gotten fired because of the lanc3
No they wouldn’t
Niner fan here been telling people everything Chris has been saying and they just push back just like with jimmy people are delusional until they are forced to see the truth Kyle has been using backups his whole time in SF it would be great if Kyle could get a real qb then we can really see things take off
Josh Dobbs scored 3 pts in the first half against the Cardinals, genius take smh
Uh, 1stQ. 1st half they scored 17. 24 by the 3rdQ. So none of the points came in garbage time vs a defense playing soft coverage if that was the point you were trying to make.
Dobbs had a QB rating of 86.0 against the Cardinals with 2 INT. I didn't realize Purdy's arm wasn't strong until I saw Dobbs rocketing it across the field and Dobbs is noticeably faster running than Purdy. Difference is Dobbs makes worse decisions than Purdy- he doesn't have a feel for the pocket and gets sacked, he forces the ball into covered receivers and gets picked.
Saying Purdy isn't close to Baker is crazy.
He doesn’t have the same armstrength.
Baker is a baller Purdy not on the same level
I suppose Chris Simms would be an expert on below average QB play…
But Chris simms wasn't asking for 50-60 million a year.....purdy is average. His numbers this year were pathetic. 20 tds and 12 ints is bad bro. That's not good numbers at all.
@ ok. My comment still applies.
@@TigerBlood4403 purdy had less ints than Mahomes and his qbr was better than Mahomes stafford stroud baker hurts Darnold Tua dak Herbert. lol guess these other QBs had even worse year than terrible
@@Dreamwunder that’s true, but compare his stats to QB’s like Dak, Tua, Hurts, and Herbert the year before they got the big contract. They were coming off of much better seasons than Purdy this year, which gave them more negotiating leverage.
@@Dreamwunder did you just compare mahomes to brock purdy??? 🤣🤣🤣 how many mvps does purdy have? How many Superbowls? I would take every single QB you just mentioned over purdy. Dude can't throw a deep ball if his life depended on it. He can't even throw the ball when it rains or snows.......I feel stupid for just even typing that last sentence. What pro QB cannot throw in rain or snow??? Purdy definitely can't and you wanna pay this man top dollar??? Cmon now.
Top 20? Try top 10. In his worst season he's still 7th in QBR. He has the 49er record for most passing yards in a season, and the fastest 49er to score 50 touchdowns in a career. Without someone like Jerry Rice to throw to. Stop the BS. Pay the kid.
He's not "Lamar or Burrow" elite -- but he's a darn good QB. Several teams would LOVE to sign him in free agency. AND, they'll sign him for a Geno Smith type contract... $35M/yr, plus incentives to make another $2-6 mill, with an opt-out after 2 years. Raiders, Browns, Giants, Tenn, Indy, Jets, all NEED a QB... literally nobody in the building that's suitable. Purdy would take $35-38M because if he doesn't get a contract and has to play another year at $1.1M, then he's losing literally $10M/yr on a 3-yr contract...
What reality does Simms live in lol
Phil comparing Brock to baker, baker signed that deal 2 years ago when he had one decent season with his team. When he resigns soon, it will be for $45+.
Agreed, but when he gets a new contract he gets 55
He’s getting 55
the deal went very fast for CMC
Click bait haters
Raiders Giants New Orleans Tennessee Browns would pay him.
New Orleans is definitely not in that conversation
Why doesn't the NFL use incentives more? Give Purdy 30 with up to 20 more if he wins the super bowl.
So much disrespect for Brock. Deep playoff runs aren’t enough? Dobbs looked HORRIBLE Chris. You’re clueless.
So much disrespect for Jimmy G. Deep playoff runs aren’t enough?
@@ErikDayne The fact you brought him up shows how little you know. Go back to madden kid.
Brock earned a nice payday
Last year you don’t get paid coming off a season like he did
I love failed qbs critiquing BP. Hey Chris. That last pick in the draft has an exponentially better career than yours as a third rounder.
Because he was handed a starting job on a team that had already been to a Super Bowl without CMC Aiyuk or Trent Williams
@@ErikDayne so you’re saying Chris sims would do the same?
I think they should give him 2/75 or 3/115 & then he gets back to the negotiating table after making a quick buck. Put a couple voidable years on the end to make it look better and to give them flexibility with the cap. Then he can hit the market again at/below 30 & collect bigger checks
Offer Purdy $30 million per year. And draft a QB. If he says no, bye bye.
The only thing credible here is the fact that Sims knows what a mediocre qb is!!
Simms is insane.
Can tell Simms is biased against the last pick of the draft with that smug look on his face.
Top 20? Purdy is in the top 10 of almost every category.
Simms is an idiot. The only real time Brock doesn't hit a play (i.e. Superbowl) is when the OL collapses immediately and he can't scramble. But that's going to screw any QB. Even Mahomes.
Chris Jones coming up the middle unblocked on a potential game winning touchdown did not even get the sack as Purdy tossed the ball away. Ninety percent of the QBs in the league would have been sacked.
I got thinking about my “elite” group. One guy I didn’t mention but maybe should have: Jayden Daniels. It’s just a bit too early maybe. But Jayden has elite skills, that’s for sure. Terrific passer - quick release, tight throwing motion, strong arm, very accurate - a ridiculous runner - I’ve seen deer with slower acceleration ;-) - AND he seems like a smart guy too. PLUS he’s a great “character” guy too. My gut tells me Jayden is the new NFL QB prototype. Man, I will tell you: the Commanders absolutely lucked out having Jayden drop in their laps. (Simms is way off here on Purdy. What about the Vikings? Purdy is definitely better than Darnold. If Purdy is a Vikings he’s hitting most of those passes to Justin Jefferson against the Lions.)
"hardly makes anything" I could retire comfortably on any one year of Brocks current deal.
Clueless lmao. With tax in CA he is barely above middle class, his commercials and endorsements are the only thing that raises him above that.
@@nathangothan601not really. Even if the state takes half he’s still making $500,000 a year. If you’re smart you could make that last a lifetime. Buy a house for $250-300k, buy a car for $25-30k, and invest $100k. No mortgage, no car payment, and the money you invested will produce a profit going forward.
@@nathangothan601 This right here. As a resident of the Bay Area, there is a reason he has had a roommate.
the niners got all the leverage in this situation. no other team would offer more than 30 mil for purdy but he may the kind of guy that is fine with that.
The Vikings. If they lose against the Rams - probable - they’ll be QB shopping. Purdy to Jefferson would be very good.
@@Washington-Dreaming they just drafted JJ McCarthy 10th overall last year... lol theyre going to use him if they dont want to stay with Darnold who has had a better year than Purdy this season
Not really. Plenty of teams would jump at the chance to get Purdy. He will get north of $40 mil.
You are flat out WONG on this. The Raiders would pay him, the Giants would pay him. New Orleans would pay him (IF they could). You are bat crap crazy.
All this mediocre teams will sign him. Purdy will get $50 mil minimum. Hes better than Tua, Dak , and Trevor, all got $50 plus mil a year.
Sheesh. These two. They never did get over the 49ers taking Trey Lance over Mac Jones, did they? LOL.
Darnold isn’t signing for 10 million again
How did the niners take their time to get a better deal and the Cowboys take their time to pay way above market value. I hope they pay him 50 million a year.
Wow! The Purdy disrespect is real. Yall act like he’s a bum
No he’s a good QB but if you pay a good QB like they’re a top 5 QB you’re not gonna be getting full value out of that contract and you’ll be at a disadvantage
Chris taking out all his insecurity about his own career failure on Brock Purdy is just sad dude
5 years $200 mil fully guaranteed. Pay the kid for what he has done for the franchise by giving him the guarantee, but at $40mil a year with a rising cap, it doesn’t hurt the team as a whole.
40 isn’t enough. My gut tells me that he’s worth min 45.
That would be a good deal. But he might not take that over 5. Maybe 40m/yr over 2-3 seasons then see if he earns a higher contract after
Cut him
@@strawberryreacts9585 are you going to spam that under every comment?
@kgthakid2911 yes
I love this longstanding split screen purplish blue brick background staging. I will endlessly watch these two max their rapport in this context.
Chris thinks Sam Darnold could do the things Brock does and then some... so essentially, he thinks Kyle knows f' all about qb play. Sam got most of the reps in the offseason when SF had him and Brock was coming off a major surgery on his throwing arm.
Kyle could have easily said Brock is still working through something and gone with Sam but he didn't... because there was a clear difference.
It's because Sam has a stronger arm and they over value that.
If Darnold had been in SF this year he would have struggled big time. They would still be 6-11 or worse.
What reason do we have to think Kyle knows anything about QBs? He passed on drafting Mahomes, passed on signing Brady, traded for Jimmy G, gave Jimmy G a huge contract, traded for Trey Lance to replace Jimmy G but stuck with Jimmy G anyway, then replaced Lance with Purdy who he passed on drafting with their 3 sixth round picks that year. Oh and they let Darnold go who just had a borderline MVP season. Let’s not act like Kyle has this great track record at QB, his record at QB is abysmal so it’s fair to assume his future decisions at QB will be wrong too.
This logic is easily defeated. Kyle had Trey, Jimmy, and Brock in 2022. Jimmy was off to the side rehabbing with no contract. Kyle easily could have put Brock ahead of Jimmy saying he was still working through something *and* had not camp, but he didn't... because there was a clear difference???
@@kiku-h7r Jimmy was a veteran and Brock was a rookie. He had seen that Jimmy could run the offense at baseline in actual games.
He has said Brock was the best QB in that camp because he was the most consistent. But you never know if that would have worked in actual games. Should he have given him a chance earlier in that season? Absolutely, but you can kind of understand why he was hesitant.
Let’s stop it. The receiving core Kirk had pre Justin Jefferson was better than the 49ers receivers and that one consisted diggs and prime theilan. What Purdy has done with these weapons is amazing. He even helped kick aiyuk’s game up a notch. The dude just wins. Except for the season when all of his weapons minus kittle are hurt, the defense can’t stay healthy, and the kicker can’t hit a field goal. Kirk also did nothing in the playoffs. The dude can play, he obviously battled injuries this year also. Give that man his money.
Some of the takes in this segment beggar belief. Brock is workmanlike and has no big plays where he scrambles and .akes something???? like wtf, there's a highlight reel of him doing exactly that. For sure there's stuff you can criticize him on, but please keep it real and factual.
People forget Darnold was at San Fran last year and was Purdys back up
You don’t get top money coming off a season like that Purdy the Golden Gate Bridge quarterback
Pretty ridiculous take, $30M per year. Hey super models, what are you doing tommorow night? Dude can make all the throws, and is mobile enough.
that's not going to happen. Brock's got 2 divisional title and 1 NFC Championship. He will get paid. The media said the same for Sam Darnold and look what Sam is doing now. He will get paid.
Brock has the same playoff success as Jimmy G
Some teams will over pay for Purdy. Raiders, Giants, Titan come to mind.
Raiders Giants New Orleans Tennessee Browns would pay him. Play hard ball and he leaves then what?
He's top 10
Not this year. This year top ten is Lamar, Josh, Joe, Justin, Jayden, Jordan, Jared, Pat, Jalen, Sam. Maybe Baker. Then in the 12-15 group is Tua, Brock, Matt, Kyler.
2023: Dak, Brock, Kirk, and Matt were in the top 10 replacing Jayden, Sam, Baker, and Joe (who was not good in 2023). With Jared & Jalen battling Tua & CJ.
2022: Pat, Josh, Tua, Jalen, Jared, Joe, Justin with Lamar, Geno, Dak, Daniel Jones. W/ the mid 11-17 being Tom, Derek, Trevor, Kyler, Matt, Kirk, Jimmy G. Think I would put Brock at 11 here ahead of Brady even though he only played 5 games.
Bottom 10
Sounds like 49ers fans better get used to mediocrity for the foreseeable future with Purdy and their ageing Avengers
These dudes are smoking drugs
Draft the best player available on either side of the ball. DO NOT DRAFT A SYSTEM/SCHEME FIT PLAYER
These takes are so bad. Saying he doesn’t make any awesome off scheduled plays shows they don’t watch the tape.
That’s not even the issue the problem is with his disadvantage athletically he needs to be incredibly consistent with his accuracy and reading defenses. Any mistakes in those areas are magnified because he doesn’t have enough speed to routinely escape the rush and he doesn’t have the arm strength to fit the ball into tight windows.
They are talking out of their arses. Purdy literally carried the Niners vs the packers and lions last year. It was his off schedule plays that won them the game. Kyle's play calling is horrible when trailing in games.
As somebody who’s watched every Brock Purdy snap, a year ago listening to this, I would have said they were crazy and unfair. After this year, I think they have a point. Purdy threw some really bad INTs and didn’t elevate the team when he didn’t have Aiyuk, CMC and Williams there. I think slightly above Baker Mayfield’s contract is fair
Didn’t elevate the team!??? Jennings almost hit his 1st 1k season!!!
He lost 5 olineman wtf are you talking about
@@SiahzMommyyy he was the only option other than Kittle. He threw some bad picks that cost the team games.
@ every qb throws picks… it’s football!!!! But be so fr. Question before Purdy when did Aiyuk have a 1k season I’ll wait. When has Jennings had over 500 yards before Purdy? Did you even watch the lions or bucs game this year I’m pretty sure he utilized Ricky Pearsall!?
Purdy did the best he could with receivers that can't separate. PFF has the 49ers dead last in receiver separation. Purdy is the 49ers best option and he's going to get starting QB money around $50M.
Play on rookie deal we can always
Tag him
This video just made your credibility decrease.
Good job with the engagement bait PFT👏👏
They always give Kyle too much credit. Kyle has been in SF 8 years, he's never had a better QB. So if they let Purdy go, are we going to wait another 8 years for better QB play?
Purdy is a top 10 quarterback.... this is his 3rd season... he has been to 2 NFC championships and 1 superbowl that we would have won if the defense gets that stop on 4th down of overtime. I hope brock takes a team friendly deal but 20 million???? LOL u both sound ridiculous
55+ mil a year will look like 25 mil in a few years.
Hes getting at least 40. I wouldnt but he will
Tell us how you really feel. Nothing but fact.🤣🤣
As a niner fan I agree. With all the guys Purdy is awesome but if you lose most of those guys because he makes too much money it will destroy our team. I honestly would shoot for low 40’s with a max around mid 40’s.
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There is no way in this world that Purdy will take $40 million a year. I believe he will get at least $50 million a year and the Niners will give it to him.
Why would they lose those guys? Geebus do you understand how the NFL works? Philly just paid their QB top money. Yet they still signed BOTH teier wr's and brought in Barkley.
Chris Simms, and Nick Wright have to be in competition for who can be the bigger clown
Purdy is the guy
Purdy is middle of the road at best.
Bosa makes 30 mil a yr and hes not better than Micah..T.J or Garrett
Stretch with Micah but I get it
Wow is Sims working for his buddy today or something
These two are delusional.
Chris Simms, not athletic enough to make it as a player, and not smart enough to have any relevance as a broadcaster. Mr. Simms, please name the 19 quarterbacks in this league that are better than Brock Purdy. Simms would play in the Shannahan system and still be pedestrian AF.
17 Qbs better/debatably/close enough:
Pat M
Joe B
Lamar J
Josh A
Matt S
Kyler M
Baker M
Jared G
Sam D
Dak P
JHerb
Jayden D
CJ S
J Love
Jalen H
Tua T
Geno S
Thats not even accounting for sleepers who are more talented: Caleb W, Drake M, Trevor L, Bo N,
Pretty good take off the top of his head
Yeah I had Purdy at 16 and that was before this disaster of a season
@@JuiceManJ91lmao cj stroud after one hype rookie year is having terrible second year like ranked 27th out of QBs. You gotta be joking when purdy played better while missing wr1 rb1,2,3,4 and entire OL line. Bias is so real
I'm trying to understand why you think he's higher than that? Being top 20 25 is pretty great to hear
@@Dreamwunderthe Texans still made the playoffs
A franchise QB is not Aiyuk or Deebo. They've seen how Jerry Jones' fiddling with Dak turned out. Their decision is made, but Brock is going to have to accept a number that doesn't destroy the team. He needs to let the team invest in an Oline and field a decent defense. The Me-first QBs who aren't quite capable of carrying the whole show are team-killers. The collapse at Dallas is largely the doing of Dak Prescott.
Nobody ever mentions trevor Lawrence? Lol it's always str8 to tua.....even after Tua led the league in passing.....wonder why
I think mid 40s would be solid for both parties at like 3 years. If Brock doesnt live up, its only upper-mid market and short term. If he plays great, then hes in line for a big time payday in a few years or maybe an early extension
Lmao raiders would pay $25 mil so fast to purdy is this guy serious wow
Daniel Jones contract, except at 48m
Videos like these, I really miss the dislike button being visible.
Russell wilson, sam darnold and brok purdy will be the highest paid qb's in the league next year. There is always a team that thinks they know more then everybody else. P.S. Rex ryan and pete carrol are being considered for HC in todays nfl.
Actually Purdy will not be the highest paid. The way contracts work is they are back loaded. Year 2 is when the $ will rise.
3:31 I agree with Chris on this point bout Brock being paid between 25-30 million
When tf has baker won a afc/nfc championship?!! Bffr
Purdy does off schedule plays these guys are a joke 🤡
Purdy should just sit out!! 1 Million is a freaking joke for a starting QB
Chris Simms is a clown for this take. Main stream sports media is such a joke with guys like Simms and Nick Wright.
what a dumb comment whatsoever reason Brady was taken in the 5th round FLORIO has an IQ of 0