Interesting, that you get Koch Chemie in the US. Very good products for professionals here in Germany. Nice job! Didn't think the Dodge RAM would have enough clearcoat to be rescued. Generally american and japanese cars use very little paint which makes reviving destroyed paints sometimes near impossible.
When onr is on the surface I see the dirt in the bubbles but they won’t fall down. Can I use opti seal to buff them out or still use onr to push them down ?
Im in L.A. ppl that deatail dont like trying new products like Koch chemi specially bcus its expensive, BUT I absolutely L♡VE using it . I didn't get all dusty easy to use and results are on point. It's worth buying
Great video Nick! Could you follow Yvans 5-5-5 rule and cut that same size area in approximately 80 seconds instead of 5 minutes or is life not that easy?
So basically what it comes down to is extremely low arm speed on speed 5, yeah? I think if you do THAT--the defects will disappear ... not sure if I answered your question lol
I think Chromatic is asking about doing a smaller test spot. Because the test spot is for testing pad/product combo. Hopefully the technique/arm speed is already there ;)
A body shop put holograms all up in my paint, then comp'd me a ceramic coating, which was a nice gesture, but they "sealed" in the damage...how can I correct through the ceramic? Do I have to do a three stage (first stage remove ceramic, second stage compound, third stage polish)? Also, what was the light you used in the beginning to see the holograms? I can only see them in the sun, I can't see them with my film set lights I use to see swirl marks. Thanks!
Not to bust your chops , great video by the way. usually when you add water to the surface while polish is still on the pad and the surface. The water increases the cut, learned that from a Rupes advanced paint correction course.
Yo bro ! Need your advice please I am almost sold to forced rotation as it will not keep stopping at curves and edges of some crazy toyota cars :) The only point holding me back from going forced rotation is absence of knowledge if forced rotation machine will always finnish very well with one step compound leaving no holograms as well on black paints. At Least on German cars. Scholl s20 one step compound and medium cutting pad / blue spider pad combo for example to remove moderate to heavy swirls to 85-95% perfection = 85-95 % defects correced while super lttle haze and 0 holograms left after 2 passes= left to right and up snd down = 1 cross Kind Regards Your subscriber
Great vid man. I just started a detailing business out in SC and was wondering the benefits of having a garage like that vs being mobile. I like the idea of having a garage but don’t want to break the bank. Is rent cheap for a space that size?
Start mobile first.See if you enjoy it and build your clientele. Then decide if you want a shop. A shop is more professional. Sets you apart from the mobile guys which are a dime a dozen. It helps with branding and people enjoy a place they can go to and drop off. You can eventually hire employees that will do the work for you while you collect the $. That's if they can detail to your standards
I am having this exact problem. I just bought a new to me 2017 Silverado black, without seeing it in sunlight. It was raining the day I bought it. Now that I’ve seen it in sunlight, it’s full of these buffer trails. How much should I expect to spend to have this corrected?
Is it black? Not sure but probably 800-1,000 to do it right...they might even throw in in ceramic which might put you closer to 1,500. If you're not super picky and just want those gone someone might do it for 400 but you get what you pay for
Hawk - Did you try polishing those buffer trails before going in with cutting with a microfiber pad? I only ask because who ever cut the truck 1st with a rotary could have removed a significant amount clearcoat. Would have been interested to see what removal you could have achieved with a good polish ( w/pad choice ). Did you measure everything out before cutting? Nothing wrong with low and slow brother! Great video!
You got a point , i would also try first polish with different then cutting pad , Also as you mention some1 could remove significant amount of clear , in my own opinion he’s also may be taking much off clear coat as he spends quite time on 1 spot and doing too many trails ? I may be wrong …
Man i am using koch chemie too it is great , but lately ive been polishing a black car and after i put it in the sun , i found out buffing trails , i tried to remove it using micro cut polish and a soft pad , it didn't work as it should , any suggestion ??
Use purple pad and m3. Use the 3 inch pad and work 1 foot by 1 foot sections. Try medium pressure and speed 3. But technique might need adjusting. Wipe off...no need to work the polish until it gets clear you are polishing for results not for standard operating procedure. Then use ipa or panel prep and inspect carefully. Adjust technique as necessary
Can tell someone likes cleaning cars when after you polish you walk around it like a guerilla looking it up and down checking for any missed spots, great video 👍🏻
Optimum Hyper Polish is the best finishing polish I’ve ever used on black paint(especially soft). Oberk Polish is very good too. Optimum Hyper Compound is horrible. Truck looks GREAT!!!
My man! Hyper compound hazes like crazy but it levels paint fast. Any tips or tricks for hyper polish? I really like it but cant get a perfect finish on black paint....
Hawk Pro Detailing I use hyper polish at speed 3-4(really slow arm speed is not beneficial to finish) and light pressure. This all could vary depending on paint hardness, but for the most part, this works for me.
Holograms happen with a rotary buffer, so holograms have everything to do with that one direction (circular) movement of the rotary. Whereas "haze left behind after compound" is likely what we call "DA haze." da, or dual action polishers, do leave behind a kind of haze when you use a microfiber pad and compound. It, too, needs to be refined but has a different look than what you would call "holograms."
Yes it does. Many veterans of the industry preach this, while young guns try to get the showroom shine by spending way too many hours behind the polisher....not being profitable ....and removing too much clear 😂 I'm learning more every day but sometimes a customer wants that shine
Rotary swirls or "holograms" are simply a sign that a job is unfinished. In this case there were holograms and other issues like deeper scratcher so I compounded first. But really holograms only need to be refined or polished with a foam pad and polish in most cases. There has just been a gap in time between when the holograms were inflicted and when the car was brought to me
Is this for real .... did it literally take you like 40 hrs im thinking of learning how to do this bc I have bought my first brand new truck and want to keep it looking good
What’s the meaning of life!?😂 What are we doing here in this place!? Many people have pondered these questions and continue to do so everyday. Thank Jesus for perfect black paint.
I am shocked how black paint is so easily mistreated. I love black luxury vehicles but its the most pain in the neck to keep nice. Im taking my brand new Audi A8 to the detail shop for this treatment and ceramic coating asap. I imagine the dealer has a bad detail shop when the car was delivered to them. I didnt notice it until I got it the sun came out two days after. By that time my trade was sold and there is nothing the dealer is willing to do for me, and frankly I dont want their detail shop touching this car again!
I am cutting as slow as you One step takes me 12 + hours in BMW X5 black , meaning one and a half day :( Cordless da from Ryobi and s20 blue spider pads . How do I speed up to 8-10 hours ? I see some people get it done in 4 hours with da . Sounds like some fake lies to me
Once you get confident...and this is not endorsed by everybody...you can go speed 6 lots of pressure really fast arm movement. You'll need to blow out pad more often and monitor paint for heat. You can also go slow, speed6, pressure, for lots of cut but really be careful on heat. Don't blame me if you burn paint and be cautious with this...hundreds of hours on paint can't happen unless you get experience so be kind to yourself and keep learning. You will figure out hacks but it just takes the reps
@@HawkProDetailing Ty vm At the moment it seems like there is nothing to improve I am cutting with da on max speed 7500 orbits but it does slow down a lot when you press hard on it , with dead slow passes and lots of pressure with Scholl S20 one step and blue spider pads from Scholl It takes 2 criss cross passes to get 70% Takes 7 passes to get 95% perfect on Mercedes a d BMW Many passes and dead slow speed ..... What's there to improve :( Even with just 2 criss cross passes it takes 1.5 day :( ........ P.S. Doing it outside in full sun though with waterless prewash LOL I always get German black cars for waxing and now for polishing f... CK me ! :( So far 3 German 4x4 cars one stepped with insane pain and lengh
Shops here charge 100$ for a 2 step Correction plus interior detail. And customers def realize the quality they get. Buy nice or buy twice! Reason why I charge 250$ inside and out plus 2 step Correction not 100$
Yeah I'm just trying to stay in my own lane as far as what others charge but I definitely dont want to be known as the cheap guy. That gets you busy and also can burn you out IMHO
@@HawkProDetailing indeed!! Plus the type of customers you'll get are absolutely HORRIBLE. Cheap Lowballing problomatic people straight nightmares lol so much stress.
Wait.. what? You're saying a 2 step correction on an *entire* vehicle is only $100 all in?!? That can't be right.. 😲😲 That is *easily* an all day job, or multiple days, to do it correctly. After you factor in materials and operating costs, you're looking at what $50 for the day??! I don't know *why* or *how* anyone could be a professional detailer and earn a comfortable living at anything remotely close to those rates. To wash, decon, and two step a vehicle I charge around $1000, and that doesn't include protection.. Around $2000 for a complete inside and out detail, correction and coatings on multiple surfaces.. and I absolutely feel like I earn every dollar. So do my clients, I dont even market or advertise, I'm 100% referral based and I have all the work I can handle.. Rates that low almost offends me on a personal level.. I question the quality of work being done. Either way it sets a bad precedent for professionals. High end detailing is not easy, it takes time, hard work, and talent.. that's why it's expensive.. you have to know your value..
@@jdisdetermined absolutely!! I making 1,000$+ seems amazing to be honest. But alot of people get shocked when I tell them 250$ for everything. Of course i explain it's a 2 day job. Inside and out and what products come in to play. But nothing :/
@@jdisdetermined My exact reaction unless we are talking about Mexico city or something. At best in the States you'd get a quick buzz with a cleaner wax that has good filling. Even that would be a lot for $100. Shoot, a decent tunnel car wash charges $20!
I noticed this too, dude was showing his “look at this swirls gone” but he just made a fuck ton of much smaller denser, swirls lmao. This dude is a joke I’d be so mad if I paid his 1000 detail
Great video! Thank you! I think the ‘melanin’ to life, is obvious. It’s to live it, in whatever way you want without inflicting on others greatness.
Reflection vids and pics tells the tale of work well done!!
Thanks Peter! I posted some pics on my FB/IG -- the paint was glossy:)
Interesting, that you get Koch Chemie in the US. Very good products for professionals here in Germany. Nice job! Didn't think the Dodge RAM would have enough clearcoat to be rescued. Generally american and japanese cars use very little paint which makes reviving destroyed paints sometimes near impossible.
Great video. Thanks. At the end, what did you use to clean the mud guard or what do you recommend using? Thanks.
Well done mate that’s absolutely stunning
Nice vid. What was the headlamp and or lights you were using to do the correction? Keep up the good vids.
So glad I found your channel. Explained very well, awesome concept about what if you only had 3 products. Keep it up ma man
Cheers!
Great Video, thanks for the positive attitude and great amount of info! Top Detailer here!
Thanks brother!
When onr is on the surface I see the dirt in the bubbles but they won’t fall down. Can I use opti seal to buff them out or still use onr to push them down ?
Im in L.A. ppl that deatail dont like trying new products like Koch chemi specially bcus its expensive, BUT I absolutely L♡VE using it . I didn't get all dusty easy to use and results are on point. It's worth buying
Why didn’t use the onr/polish/protect system ? Would hyper seal work for this type of work
Great video Nick! Could you follow Yvans 5-5-5 rule and cut that same size area in approximately 80 seconds instead of 5 minutes or is life not that easy?
So basically what it comes down to is extremely low arm speed on speed 5, yeah? I think if you do THAT--the defects will disappear ... not sure if I answered your question lol
I think Chromatic is asking about doing a smaller test spot. Because the test spot is for testing pad/product combo. Hopefully the technique/arm speed is already there ;)
A body shop put holograms all up in my paint, then comp'd me a ceramic coating, which was a nice gesture, but they "sealed" in the damage...how can I correct through the ceramic? Do I have to do a three stage (first stage remove ceramic, second stage compound, third stage polish)? Also, what was the light you used in the beginning to see the holograms? I can only see them in the sun, I can't see them with my film set lights I use to see swirl marks.
Thanks!
Not to bust your chops , great video by the way. usually when you add water to the surface while polish is still on the pad and the surface. The water increases the cut, learned that from a Rupes advanced paint correction course.
Why’s that?
Yo bro !
Need your advice please
I am almost sold to forced rotation as it will not keep stopping at curves and edges of some crazy toyota cars :)
The only point holding me back from going forced rotation is absence of knowledge if forced rotation machine will always finnish very well with one step compound leaving no holograms as well on black paints. At Least on German cars.
Scholl s20 one step compound and medium cutting pad / blue spider pad combo for example to remove moderate to heavy swirls to 85-95% perfection = 85-95 % defects correced while super lttle haze and 0 holograms left after 2 passes= left to right and up snd down = 1 cross
Kind Regards
Your subscriber
nice work iam curious how much something like that cost on truck that size.
How would you approach this for a 1 step polish?
Outstanding dedication and work, Nick! Thanks for repping the SB tee as well! 😎
The light you use in The back Ground do you Want to tell what light it is :-) thanks for a great video !
I saw a pas cleaner sitting right there and you just blew out the pad instead of using it. Honest question, any reason why?
Great vid man. I just started a detailing business out in SC and was wondering the benefits of having a garage like that vs being mobile. I like the idea of having a garage but don’t want to break the bank. Is rent cheap for a space that size?
Start mobile first.See if you enjoy it and build your clientele. Then decide if you want a shop. A shop is more professional. Sets you apart from the mobile guys which are a dime a dozen. It helps with branding and people enjoy a place they can go to and drop off. You can eventually hire employees that will do the work for you while you collect the $. That's if they can detail to your standards
I am having this exact problem. I just bought a new to me 2017 Silverado black, without seeing it in sunlight. It was raining the day I bought it. Now that I’ve seen it in sunlight, it’s full of these buffer trails. How much should I expect to spend to have this corrected?
Is it black? Not sure but probably 800-1,000 to do it right...they might even throw in in ceramic which might put you closer to 1,500. If you're not super picky and just want those gone someone might do it for 400 but you get what you pay for
How much do you charge for something like that ?
Hawk - Did you try polishing those buffer trails before going in with cutting with a microfiber pad? I only ask because who ever cut the truck 1st with a rotary could have removed a significant amount clearcoat. Would have been interested to see what removal you could have achieved with a good polish ( w/pad choice ). Did you measure everything out before cutting? Nothing wrong with low and slow brother! Great video!
You got a point , i would also try first polish with different then cutting pad , Also as you mention some1 could remove significant amount of clear , in my own opinion he’s also may be taking much off clear coat as he spends quite time on 1 spot and doing too many trails ?
I may be wrong …
@@quattro49443 years to late
Haha that was a good ending there nick! Great work man keep up it up!
Thanks David!
Any experience with Sonax perfect finish? I’m leaning towards get a bottle
I used it a few years back but I don't think I knew my way around a car yet lol. I hear great things but love koch chemie m3
Outstanding!!
Slow as you go, it must take you all day to do one vehicle.. I’ve been detailing vehicles 30 years.
Man i am using koch chemie too it is great , but lately ive been polishing a black car and after i put it in the sun , i found out buffing trails , i tried to remove it using micro cut polish and a soft pad , it didn't work as it should , any suggestion ??
Use purple pad and m3. Use the 3 inch pad and work 1 foot by 1 foot sections. Try medium pressure and speed 3. But technique might need adjusting. Wipe off...no need to work the polish until it gets clear you are polishing for results not for standard operating procedure. Then use ipa or panel prep and inspect carefully. Adjust technique as necessary
Can tell someone likes cleaning cars when after you polish you walk around it like a guerilla looking it up and down checking for any missed spots, great video 👍🏻
Lol I'm a little obsessed 🤣 thanks man
Optimum Hyper Polish is the best finishing polish I’ve ever used on black paint(especially soft). Oberk Polish is very good too. Optimum Hyper Compound is horrible. Truck looks GREAT!!!
My man! Hyper compound hazes like crazy but it levels paint fast. Any tips or tricks for hyper polish? I really like it but cant get a perfect finish on black paint....
Hawk Pro Detailing I use hyper polish at speed 3-4(really slow arm speed is not beneficial to finish) and light pressure. This all could vary depending on paint hardness, but for the most part, this works for me.
So how would holograms happen? And they are different from the haze left behind after compound
Holograms happen with a rotary buffer, so holograms have everything to do with that one direction (circular) movement of the rotary. Whereas "haze left behind after compound" is likely what we call "DA haze." da, or dual action polishers, do leave behind a kind of haze when you use a microfiber pad and compound. It, too, needs to be refined but has a different look than what you would call "holograms."
This would have been a good vehicle to test the Optimum product line up
.i wantedt to know can we remove holograms by hand if i dont have DA or rotary
You probably can lol I would check out Kevin brown with buff daddy. Shoot him an email
Yes.....the meaning of life is a shiny truck!😃
That was hilarious at 12:58 lol great job!
Doesn’t cutting for that long and that many passes take a good amount of clear coat?
Yes it does. Many veterans of the industry preach this, while young guns try to get the showroom shine by spending way too many hours behind the polisher....not being profitable ....and removing too much clear 😂 I'm learning more every day but sometimes a customer wants that shine
Great video! I noticed your shirt, are you located by South Bend Indiana?
haha I lived in south bend from 2008-2011 for my first job out of school. do you live near there?
@@HawkProDetailing yes, in Plymouth, just south of South Bend if you remember. Lol damn were hoping you were still local.
Yeah, this... I picked up a machine and gave it a shot on my merc. It looks awful and now I'm worried.
Can they 100% be removed and will it be permanent?
Rotary swirls or "holograms" are simply a sign that a job is unfinished. In this case there were holograms and other issues like deeper scratcher so I compounded first. But really holograms only need to be refined or polished with a foam pad and polish in most cases. There has just been a gap in time between when the holograms were inflicted and when the car was brought to me
Is this for real .... did it literally take you like 40 hrs im thinking of learning how to do this bc I have bought my first brand new truck and want to keep it looking good
is mow down technique?
This isnt the mow down technique. It's a fairly slow process I showed here. There are a million ways to get results:)
What’s the meaning of life!?😂 What are we doing here in this place!? Many people have pondered these questions and continue to do so everyday. Thank Jesus for perfect black paint.
Amen😊
How much was that job?
1500. Included a ceramic coating
At that pace it would take a month to do the whole truck!
I know I'm so slow...I've gotten faster lol
Needs more refining
I am shocked how black paint is so easily mistreated. I love black luxury vehicles but its the most pain in the neck to keep nice. Im taking my brand new Audi A8 to the detail shop for this treatment and ceramic coating asap. I imagine the dealer has a bad detail shop when the car was delivered to them. I didnt notice it until I got it the sun came out two days after. By that time my trade was sold and there is nothing the dealer is willing to do for me, and frankly I dont want their detail shop touching this car again!
I am cutting as slow as you
One step takes me 12 + hours in BMW X5 black , meaning one and a half day :(
Cordless da from Ryobi and s20 blue spider pads .
How do I speed up to 8-10 hours ?
I see some people get it done in 4 hours with da .
Sounds like some fake lies to me
Once you get confident...and this is not endorsed by everybody...you can go speed 6 lots of pressure really fast arm movement. You'll need to blow out pad more often and monitor paint for heat. You can also go slow, speed6, pressure, for lots of cut but really be careful on heat. Don't blame me if you burn paint and be cautious with this...hundreds of hours on paint can't happen unless you get experience so be kind to yourself and keep learning. You will figure out hacks but it just takes the reps
@@HawkProDetailing Ty vm
At the moment it seems like there is nothing to improve
I am cutting with da on max speed 7500 orbits but it does slow down a lot when you press hard on it , with dead slow passes and lots of pressure with Scholl S20 one step and blue spider pads from Scholl
It takes 2 criss cross passes to get 70%
Takes 7 passes to get 95% perfect on Mercedes a d BMW
Many passes and dead slow speed ..... What's there to improve :(
Even with just 2 criss cross passes it takes 1.5 day :(
........
P.S.
Doing it outside in full sun though with waterless prewash LOL
I always get German black cars for waxing and now for polishing f... CK me ! :(
So far 3 German 4x4 cars one stepped with insane pain and lengh
@@maximolotov I've never regretted attending training... no matter how much experience you have is always beneficial
@@HawkProDetailing Amen
Shops here charge 100$ for a 2 step Correction plus interior detail. And customers def realize the quality they get. Buy nice or buy twice! Reason why I charge 250$ inside and out plus 2 step Correction not 100$
Yeah I'm just trying to stay in my own lane as far as what others charge but I definitely dont want to be known as the cheap guy. That gets you busy and also can burn you out IMHO
@@HawkProDetailing indeed!! Plus the type of customers you'll get are absolutely HORRIBLE. Cheap Lowballing problomatic people straight nightmares lol so much stress.
Wait.. what? You're saying a 2 step correction on an *entire* vehicle is only $100 all in?!? That can't be right.. 😲😲
That is *easily* an all day job, or multiple days, to do it correctly. After you factor in materials and operating costs, you're looking at what $50 for the day??! I don't know *why* or *how* anyone could be a professional detailer and earn a comfortable living at anything remotely close to those rates.
To wash, decon, and two step a vehicle I charge around $1000, and that doesn't include protection.. Around $2000 for a complete inside and out detail, correction and coatings on multiple surfaces.. and I absolutely feel like I earn every dollar. So do my clients, I dont even market or advertise, I'm 100% referral based and I have all the work I can handle..
Rates that low almost offends me on a personal level.. I question the quality of work being done. Either way it sets a bad precedent for professionals. High end detailing is not easy, it takes time, hard work, and talent.. that's why it's expensive.. you have to know your value..
@@jdisdetermined absolutely!! I making 1,000$+ seems amazing to be honest. But alot of people get shocked when I tell them 250$ for everything. Of course i explain it's a 2 day job. Inside and out and what products come in to play. But nothing :/
@@jdisdetermined My exact reaction unless we are talking about Mexico city or something. At best in the States you'd get a quick buzz with a cleaner wax that has good filling. Even that would be a lot for $100. Shoot, a decent tunnel car wash charges $20!
Great job fixing a $100 detail
EP my only question is why would someone get a paint correction on a new car like that
Holograms appeared on my black car one month after the aid was polished
So many questions...
F-ing hilarious intro
I try😂🤓😊
I am an amateur and I don’t do crap like that. They just not into what they are doing or don’t know how to do it properly.
If all you wanted to remove was the buffer trails, why not just a 1-pass with the polishing compound?
Well I had to finish it down too:) that's tricky in one step on black
😱😱😱🤢
omfg, who could be facked. This must take you weeks to complete.
I've lost a lot of my life chasing paint defects....
Next week the customer will drive that truck through the car wash
I know right 😥 It's coated, but realistically black paint is going to have issues showing scratches regardless over the long term...
😂
The truck looks great but you have to do more than one vehicle to make money at it.
Im.honestly so slow that it more closely resembles a hobby 🙁
Carwash.....
Remove holograms with rotary...with DA kid can do that
rotary is what put them there in the first place.
Last week it was my first time ever to polish a car and I did a better job than this guy lol (who put the swirls in)
I noticed this too, dude was showing his “look at this swirls gone” but he just made a fuck ton of much smaller denser, swirls lmao. This dude is a joke I’d be so mad if I paid his 1000 detail
I bet u the swirl marks it will come back after a few washes! Blk cars r the worst!
Yes they will come back if you use incorrect wash methods
Very cheap dirty old pads and horrible technique