Chad, Longtime subscriber. I have followed you through all types of swings and personal golf changes. I love watching you talk about your struggles because you speak for me. That being said, I still come back to this video. Chad, I have never seen you strike the ball better than this. The control you had, the distance you gained and the simplicity of the motion. The added excitement was truly a bonus! I know you have moved on from this type of stuff, but I truly hope you find it in your heart to come back to these Stricker concepts. I think we can truly learn to make a simple "Steve Stricker" swing and have success. God Bless my friend and keep on going on.
Mike Austin basically advocated A similar concept in that the hands should remain the same distance or as close as possible to the swing circle center. This works very well too. Shot a -2 with this thought after only one day of practice! Crazy straight and adequate distance. Topped A few but super straight. Saved by chipping.
Strickers swing is excellent in that it is smooth and simple. It's no wonder hes been able to complete so consistently for so long. Triangles! Always a tenet of my personal swing. Maintain and match them all the way through. Have always been impressed by Stricker. Things appear to be working well for you. Keep up the good work!
Great video Chad! I’ve been trying the KJ Single Plane Swing this Fall / Winter and really seeing some great results. Kirk does mention Strick as a close single planer so this was very interesting to me.
I have tried to swing like Stricker and I always felt like I was shoving the ball. Pretty sure his swing is shorter than yours, and I think I see a bit of wrist in yours, something I can’t detect in Steves. But your results are impressive.
Shaft plane…shaft plane…shaft plane It’s amazing what we can do by staying on the shaft plane or if you like swing plane with a one piece takeaway Looking good there Chad
I've been following some of Sam Goulden Square to Square videos, he also has a book, and he notes that Steve Stricker was the greatest inspiration on his method. He pointed out that Steve set his irons cocked more, mimicking impact, and then stairs centered with his shoulder turn, not a big turn either. Sam has a 30day bootcamp on TH-cam that I've doing as it focuses on low point strikes from wedge to hybrid using baseline methods. Been doing it with my impact board at home and my results have been good. Check it out when you get a chance.
I don’t know if you still see these comments on old vids. If so, do you know anyone who has done an in depth review of Strickers swing? I see loads of 1 minute break downs but no deep review
@@GolfTestDummy Thanks sir, after some significant deliberation and wavering back and forth, My version of Strickers swing is where I am trying to get. I have played with Single Plane, clement, Steve Pratt, and many others both conventional and non. Its time to settle into my swing.
It looks nothing like stricker but I see where you were trying to go with it and you did have some wonderful rhythm on some of those swings and therefore the momentum of the clubhead was channeled really well into the ball. As far as being like Stricks, you are really mixing your p's and q's here quite a bit as far as different types of swings go. Stricker does play with a fairly address shaft plane as compared to the average tour player and honestly that's where the similarity pretty much ends. His is a two-plane fairly flat swing from a steepish address shaft plane (ASP) (though less steep than yours). As such, you'll notice from the DTL view how important his weight distribution, knee flex and turn type are, as well as the nature of his takeaway to achieving such excellent results. So if you examine it, you'll notice that the front-to-back weight distribution on his feet remains fairly consistent during the entire swing. He also plays well within his trail knee as far as weight shift goes and especially in the early part of the swing. The combination of staying over the same areas of his feet and governing his turn with the trail knee helps establish and maintain his proper swing plane back and through by keeping his center of horizontal rotation consistent. As far as his takeaway goes, you will notice that his lead shoulder moves around on a very flat plane while his trail arm is swinging almost out in front of his body while simultaneously being lifted. So while controlling his lower body rotation, the club is being lifted from the ASP to the upper tier plane of his swing. This swinging and lifting in front of his body with proper wrist cocking (trail hand lifting) ensures that he avoids significant hands high or hand ahead conditions. So many things are right with the backswing, that he basically just has to reverse the motion in order to move the club right back onto the plane line and strike the ball well. By contrast, from a steeper ASP you have a steeper move of the lead shoulder and a much less contained move of the trail knee combined with a hands high and hands forward situation for that ASP caused by lead arm motion that is much less in front of you and much less out and around a centered pivot. In other words, for that ASP the takeaway is much too flat and significantly too inside. This takeaway is closer to that of an SPS swing but the trail elbow motion is still way too unrestricted causing significant crossing of the line. It might also be very useful to look at controlling the flow of weight towards the rear of your body on the trail side especially in the early backswing (even for an SPS type swing) and also using the trail knee to contain the flow of momentum past your body to the trail side and around to the rear. My research shows that this containment of the flow of weight and rotation is a major factor in controllng the arc and plane of the swing for great players. It's surprising how much this can also play a role in the hand path and quality of the takeaway. Although you might get some good results because you have so many well grooved movements in your swing, I'm not sure that you will ultimately find the results you're hoping for by mixing and matching swing techniques. Stricker is a really interesting case though because he is one of those players like Stenson, and Westwood that had great early careers, fell well down the rankings, rebuilt their swings and returned to great success. So it's definitely a seminal swing to emulate. Cheers.
Man thats a lot of information.... I think I understand what you're saying, but it's just way too technical for me to try and implement. It was just a quickie impression really. Simple arm motion, very little wrist cock, no attempt at killing the ball, simple back and through.
@@GolfTestDummy It sounds technical I know but it's not really that bad if you boil it down to the simplest explanation: Your address shaft plane is even more vertical than Stricker's so for a multiplane swing (which is really what you are doing), your shoulders should be moving at least as flat as his and the club shaft should be moving at least as vertically. If you look at Stricker with driver DTL, you'll see that at shaft parallel his trail ankle flex is virtually the same as at address and his trail knee has barely moved back at all yet. Also the shaft is lifting quite vertically at that point and his shoulders are turning on a flat plane. The shaft is still ahead of his feet and almost parallel with the toe line. The shaft is swinging on a wide arc out in front of his body as it is being lifted. Near the top, his trail arm motion is very compact. This kind of controlled lower body motion is necessary to channel the club path into the proper up and around arc to suit his address shaft plane. In the early backswing, if he loses his trail ankle flex much at all or moves his trail knee back and/or around too quickly, he has NO CHANCE of making the nice on plane backswing that he does and he will need massive compensations in the downswing to fix it. Likewise, if he steepens his shoulder turn too much or throws the shaft inside towards the rear of his body too quickly with his hands, he will also cause plane problems. The early backswing is particularly important for all of these elements to contribute to helping the club move on a suitable path. Conversely, you are doing a little or a lot of all of these things that I have mentioned and that leads to early plane struggles SO THE CONDENSED VERSION IS: -Shoulder plane too steep (for an ASP like yours) -Trail leg/hip/knee/ankle too active and especially early on (because they are pulling you around to the rear and way off plane, especially early) -(Related to above) Hands/arms inside way too early leading to hands high and club behind hands conditions (causes OTT and flipping). Arms should be swung wider, more in front of you, with early trail hand lifting of the shaft occuring. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy Sorry, I get that you weren't trying to mimic Stricker. I guess that I wasn't sure that you were trying to accomplish and assumed that it had mechanical improvement in mind. It did seem to produce some nice flow and rhythm to the swing. What you were demonstrating in your practice motions is probably what his swing evokes in the mind of many golfers but you were standing up and had the club outside and open at the top and the trail arm folding was way less compact than his. So I knew that you couldn't produce any actual swing that looked like that using those motions. I guess that my subtlety and tact have not been helped by my recent concurrent recurrence of shingles, covid tearing through the household, and insomnia. Nevertheless sorry for being so blunt. I stand by the gist of the commentary in terms of being more Stricker-like and for improvement in general though. It's become extremely clear to me that the rearward and upward progression of the clubhead.has to be intimately tied to the motion of the trail knee. In the early BS, the motion of the clubhead in these directions should be very controlled and so should the motion around and to the rear of the trail knee. After that, the clubhead should progress in those directions in a way which reflects the motion of that knee. This allows the clubhead to swing on a plane which reflects the plane of body rotation. An incredible example of this is Kyle Berkshire whose swing demonstrates this to such a degree that only an EXTREMELY flexible person could even emulate his motion; however it's a really interesting study. Cheers.
Keep on keeping on Chad 👍🏌️. I'm working on my single plane and my Jimmy V swing. It's taking some time and constant readjusting but it's coming together 👍
Yeah, no doubt Striker's swing is one of my PGA favorite star players. It's simple and almost no unnecessary body and hands manipulation in attempt to force hit the ball. Like the width of swing circle and quiet lower body just swinging the club. That could be why it's so repeatable. Go for it, Chad. Striker's swing could be yours. Patent reserved. Lol
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Chad, Longtime subscriber. I have followed you through all types of swings and personal golf changes. I love watching you talk about your struggles because you speak for me. That being said, I still come back to this video. Chad, I have never seen you strike the ball better than this. The control you had, the distance you gained and the simplicity of the motion. The added excitement was truly a bonus! I know you have moved on from this type of stuff, but I truly hope you find it in your heart to come back to these Stricker concepts. I think we can truly learn to make a simple "Steve Stricker" swing and have success. God Bless my friend and keep on going on.
Mike Austin basically advocated A similar concept in that the hands should remain the same distance or as close as possible to the swing circle center. This works very well too. Shot a -2 with this thought after only one day of practice! Crazy straight and adequate distance. Topped A few but super straight. Saved by chipping.
Strickers swing is excellent in that it is smooth and simple. It's no wonder hes been able to complete so consistently for so long. Triangles! Always a tenet of my personal swing. Maintain and match them all the way through. Have always been impressed by Stricker. Things appear to be working well for you. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Kevin, and totally agree. Stricker is quietly elite.
Great video Chad! I’ve been trying the KJ Single Plane Swing this Fall / Winter and really seeing some great results. Kirk does mention Strick as a close single planer so this was very interesting to me.
Very simple swing, like Annika Sorenstam.
Really good Chad, we gotta see you on the course with this swing, watching Stricker makes the swing look so uncomplicated
I'll definitely take this on course soon, and I might start trying some ther impressions.
Stricter swing? Not sure if you’ve done a training video on his swing, but I’ll check out previous videos and see. Thanks for sharing.
No previous vids, just a spur of the moment experiment! A great one too.
I have tried to swing like Stricker and I always felt like I was shoving the ball. Pretty sure his swing is shorter than yours, and I think I see a bit of wrist in yours, something I can’t detect in Steves. But your results are impressive.
Yeah he has so little wrist hinge. I was trying to keep the wrist straight, if you can believe it, haha. I'll have to keep working on that..
Shaft plane…shaft plane…shaft plane
It’s amazing what we can do by staying on the shaft plane or if you like swing plane with a one piece takeaway
Looking good there Chad
Thanks BG!
Great video Chad! It’s funny Gary Edwin has done videos showcasing Steve’s swing.
Thanks Chris!
I've been following some of Sam Goulden Square to Square videos, he also has a book, and he notes that Steve Stricker was the greatest inspiration on his method. He pointed out that Steve set his irons cocked more, mimicking impact, and then stairs centered with his shoulder turn, not a big turn either.
Sam has a 30day bootcamp on TH-cam that I've doing as it focuses on low point strikes from wedge to hybrid using baseline methods. Been doing it with my impact board at home and my results have been good. Check it out when you get a chance.
Absolute fan of Sam Goulden here. I'll be reincarnated as him, lol. Love his stuff and the bags he makes. The approach to the swing. Great stuff.
Great stuff, bud. Fun and interesting at the same time.
Much appreciated!
That 5 iron looked like you were going over the top like My Swing Evolution.
Ha! That's so funny because I literally had the same thought and felt that in that swing.
I don’t know if you still see these comments on old vids. If so, do you know anyone who has done an in depth review of Strickers swing? I see loads of 1 minute break downs but no deep review
I'm sure somewhere in the comments Timothy Pollock did, but it's in written form, and not on video. Other than that, I'm not sure.
@@GolfTestDummy Thanks sir, after some significant deliberation and wavering back and forth, My version of Strickers swing is where I am trying to get. I have played with Single Plane, clement, Steve Pratt, and many others both conventional and non. Its time to settle into my swing.
It looks nothing like stricker but I see where you were trying to go with it and you did have some wonderful rhythm on some of those swings and therefore the momentum of the clubhead was channeled really well into the ball.
As far as being like Stricks, you are really mixing your p's and q's here quite a bit as far as different types of swings go. Stricker does play with a fairly address shaft plane as compared to the average tour player and honestly that's where the similarity pretty much ends.
His is a two-plane fairly flat swing from a steepish address shaft plane (ASP) (though less steep than yours). As such, you'll notice from the DTL view how important his weight distribution, knee flex and turn type are, as well as the nature of his takeaway to achieving such excellent results.
So if you examine it, you'll notice that the front-to-back weight distribution on his feet remains fairly consistent during the entire swing. He also plays well within his trail knee as far as weight shift goes and especially in the early part of the swing. The combination of staying over the same areas of his feet and governing his turn with the trail knee helps establish and maintain his proper swing plane back and through by keeping his center of horizontal rotation consistent.
As far as his takeaway goes, you will notice that his lead shoulder moves around on a very flat plane while his trail arm is swinging almost out in front of his body while simultaneously being lifted. So while controlling his lower body rotation, the club is being lifted from the ASP to the upper tier plane of his swing. This swinging and lifting in front of his body with proper wrist cocking (trail hand lifting) ensures that he avoids significant hands high or hand ahead conditions. So many things are right with the backswing, that he basically just has to reverse the motion in order to move the club right back onto the plane line and strike the ball well.
By contrast, from a steeper ASP you have a steeper move of the lead shoulder and a much less contained move of the trail knee combined with a hands high and hands forward situation for that ASP caused by lead arm motion that is much less in front of you and much less out and around a centered pivot. In other words, for that ASP the takeaway is much too flat and significantly too inside.
This takeaway is closer to that of an SPS swing but the trail elbow motion is still way too unrestricted causing significant crossing of the line. It might also be very useful to look at controlling the flow of weight towards the rear of your body on the trail side especially in the early backswing (even for an SPS type swing) and also using the trail knee to contain the flow of momentum past your body to the trail side and around to the rear. My research shows that this containment of the flow of weight and rotation is a major factor in controllng the arc and plane of the swing for great players. It's surprising how much this can also play a role in the hand path and quality of the takeaway.
Although you might get some good results because you have so many well grooved movements in your swing, I'm not sure that you will ultimately find the results you're hoping for by mixing and matching swing techniques.
Stricker is a really interesting case though because he is one of those players like Stenson, and Westwood that had great early careers, fell well down the rankings, rebuilt their swings and returned to great success. So it's definitely a seminal swing to emulate. Cheers.
Man thats a lot of information.... I think I understand what you're saying, but it's just way too technical for me to try and implement. It was just a quickie impression really. Simple arm motion, very little wrist cock, no attempt at killing the ball, simple back and through.
@@GolfTestDummy It sounds technical I know but it's not really that bad if you boil it down to the simplest explanation:
Your address shaft plane is even more vertical than Stricker's so for a multiplane swing (which is really what you are doing), your shoulders should be moving at least as flat as his and the club shaft should be moving at least as vertically.
If you look at Stricker with driver DTL, you'll see that at shaft parallel his trail ankle flex is virtually the same as at address and his trail knee has barely moved back at all yet. Also the shaft is lifting quite vertically at that point and his shoulders are turning on a flat plane. The shaft is still ahead of his feet and almost parallel with the toe line. The shaft is swinging on a wide arc out in front of his body as it is being lifted. Near the top, his trail arm motion is very compact.
This kind of controlled lower body motion is necessary to channel the club path into the proper up and around arc to suit his address shaft plane. In the early backswing, if he loses his trail ankle flex much at all or moves his trail knee back and/or around too quickly, he has NO CHANCE of making the nice on plane backswing that he does and he will need massive compensations in the downswing to fix it.
Likewise, if he steepens his shoulder turn too much or throws the shaft inside towards the rear of his body too quickly with his hands, he will also cause plane problems. The early backswing is particularly important for all of these elements to contribute to helping the club move on a suitable path.
Conversely, you are doing a little or a lot of all of these things that I have mentioned and that leads to early plane struggles
SO THE CONDENSED VERSION IS:
-Shoulder plane too steep (for an ASP like yours)
-Trail leg/hip/knee/ankle too active and especially early on (because they are pulling you around to the rear and way off plane, especially early)
-(Related to above) Hands/arms inside way too early leading to hands high and club behind hands conditions (causes OTT and flipping). Arms should be swung wider, more in front of you, with early trail hand lifting of the shaft occuring. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy Sorry, I get that you weren't trying to mimic Stricker. I guess that I wasn't sure that you were trying to accomplish and assumed that it had mechanical improvement in mind. It did seem to produce some nice flow and rhythm to the swing.
What you were demonstrating in your practice motions is probably what his swing evokes in the mind of many golfers but you were standing up and had the club outside and open at the top and the trail arm folding was way less compact than his. So I knew that you couldn't produce any actual swing that looked like that using those motions.
I guess that my subtlety and tact have not been helped by my recent concurrent recurrence of shingles, covid tearing through the household, and insomnia. Nevertheless sorry for being so blunt.
I stand by the gist of the commentary in terms of being more Stricker-like and for improvement in general though. It's become extremely clear to me that the rearward and upward progression of the clubhead.has to be intimately tied to the motion of the trail knee. In the early BS, the motion of the clubhead in these directions should be very controlled and so should the motion around and to the rear of the trail knee. After that, the clubhead should progress in those directions in a way which reflects the motion of that knee. This allows the clubhead to swing on a plane which reflects the plane of body rotation.
An incredible example of this is Kyle Berkshire whose swing demonstrates this to such a degree that only an EXTREMELY flexible person could even emulate his motion; however it's a really interesting study. Cheers.
Oh no, you're good Tim. I always appreciate the breakdowns.
@@GolfTestDummy Thanks man, and enjoy your time away. I'm sure that you could use it.
Looks like you stand too far away from the ball at setup Or was this like Sticker?
Keep on keeping on Chad 👍🏌️. I'm working on my single plane and my Jimmy V swing. It's taking some time and constant readjusting but it's coming together 👍
That's a pretty damn good combo!
Yeah, no doubt Striker's swing is one of my PGA favorite star players. It's simple and almost no unnecessary body and hands manipulation in attempt to force hit the ball. Like the width of swing circle and quiet lower body just swinging the club. That could be why it's so repeatable. Go for it, Chad. Striker's swing could be yours. Patent reserved. Lol
Haha, well I'm no dead ringer, but just trying to employ some of the things I see, it really makes the swing simpler.
Like who cares if you play like Steve😅