An even better idea is to choose a distro, learn its native package manager properly, and you won't have leftover data from "flatpak bloat" to deal with in the first place.
@@VallThyo I am never stuck in "dependency hell" in Gentoo. Ultimately, silly people who don't know what they are doing insist on installing "latest and greatest" test packages because Microsoft has indoctrinated them into believing that everything has to patched and updated there and then. An engineer like me who makes "conservative" choices in what software is running doesn't experience such things, so you might want to do things better and follow my example.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 So YOU are the example to follow? I didn't knew I was talking to the all mighty🙇 Lets propagate this and make sure everyone uses their computer like you do, thats what us simpletons should to, tell me where your church is located so I can go visit and be enlightened as well.
Small correction & request : - You can install just short name eg flatpak install bottles - Please use overrides to make flatpaks use system theme. Many guides omline
>- You can install just short name eg flatpak install bottles A little nitpicky but, yes you can do that but you're relying on flatpak search function in order to try and guess which program you want to install. And this sometimes doesn't work, the sure way of getting it right all the time is to use the extremely convoluted reverse dns system - or flatpak frontend with saner defaults, like warehouse.
@@VallThyo "A little nitpicky but, yes you can do that but you're relying on flatpak search function in order to try and guess which program you want to install." The distros native package manager should already be able to do this. You make no case for flatpak anyway. "And this sometimes doesn't work, the sure way of getting it right all the time is to use the extremely convoluted reverse dns system - or flatpak frontend with saner defaults, like warehouse." You don't usually need reverse DNS to use a distros native package manager. You'll discover it probably relies on PKI to provide a good level of authentication to the distro user. Flatpak is an entirely unnecessary piece of bloat that brings in a third party, and therefore more complexity and exposure to bugs, to provide packages.
Amazing review. Warehouse was one of the programs that helped me transition to flatpaks, before it was such a mess with permissions and finding packages without having to go to the flathub site and copying the install linking and pasting on the terminal... while all functional was a lot of steps to just install something, and after that managing it was also a challenge, what if I wanted to just reset the user data and keep the program installed? That is possible but it's a command line entry that isn't too intuitive specially because the programs have weird names, and Warehouse makes all of that extremely simple. Great program, great review.
I'm also an Arch guy, but often recruit noobs to Linux in which case I like to start them on vanilla stable distros [i.e. Debian] where Flatpak has been much more crucial... A GUI PM like this will be clutch!!
Don't get me wrong, if Warehouse had been available in 2005/6 and installing or uninstalling programs was that simple, the current OS market would see Linux boasting 90% of general consumers.
@@wilddemur9796 Well done. You know what year we are in. Lesson 2 in "When Will I Be Ready For Linux" is to use your fingers and thumbs to count to 10". In your own time...
@@terrydaktyllus1320 it's charming to see you try. My hypothetical scenario examines how pivotal innovations could have reshaped the tech landscape. Calling it 'fictitious' reveals your ineptitude in understanding broader trends. The conversation here is lightyears beyond Lesson 2, which seems to be your limit. Take your time catching up; comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit.
@@tasmonislam "it's charming to see you try." You seem to have this habit of never fully explaining yourself - I am still waiting for you to define your use of "user friendly" to me. It's "chaming" to see me try what, precisely? "My hypothetical scenario examines how pivotal innovations could have reshaped the tech landscape." "Hypothesis = rationalised opinion". It's still just an opinion. " Calling it 'fictitious' reveals your ineptitude in understanding broader trends." No, you called it "fictitious" by calling it a "hypothesis" because that's what a hypothesis is. Do try harder to keep up, these are your words you seem to use incorrectly. "The conversation here is lightyears beyond Lesson 2, which seems to be your limit." No, this isn't a discussion about me, do try to stay on topic. You write words, I question why you use them and ask you to define them. Don't start trying to attack me personally because you can't explain the usage of your own words. "Take your time catching up; comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit." I am still waiting for you to catch up by explaining your usage of "user friendly". Is that coming soon? Or do you need a bit longer to prevaricate and find excuses not to do it because I've backed you into a corner?
I've gotten to the point where I have a bash alias setup that chains all my different update commands together so I don't have to type them all out lol.
@@kakarroto007 This is not an issue of "bare metal" or not. I have no issue with host-based virtualisation which uses similar engineering methodologies to create optimised VMs in a similar way to how you would build them on baremetal. There is also a case for containerisation but mainly in networked environments or micro-services. Using a "universal package manager" created by a third party instead of a distro's native package manager (whether "bare metal" or virtualised) just adds additional bloat and complexity.
@@cameronbosch1213 Thank you, could you provide a brief explanation why this would be better for unverified Flatpaks? (I'm guessing that "unverified" means Flatpaks that are not in the repository?) Does that perhaps mean that it provides some kind of layer of vetting? Or maybe some user ability for inspection?
@@kmg501 Unverified Flatpaks are once not made by the applications' original developer or a party officially affiliated with them. Some propietary applications like Chrome and Spotify are like this, but also some FOSS apps like VLC, the Dolphin Emulator, and the Proton apps, all are unverified, which for Linux Mint, seem to be an issue, because to install those applications on Linux Mint, you need to enable seeing those applications in the software store, but they still won't show reviews, making it hard to know if the application is good but also denying newcomers applications or sticking them with older application versions.
The feature to delete leftover data from flatpaks is actually a great idea.
An even better idea is to choose a distro, learn its native package manager properly, and you won't have leftover data from "flatpak bloat" to deal with in the first place.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 And be stuck in dependency hell and non sandboxed environments, is it's a great idea. xD
@@VallThyo I am never stuck in "dependency hell" in Gentoo.
Ultimately, silly people who don't know what they are doing insist on installing "latest and greatest" test packages because Microsoft has indoctrinated them into believing that everything has to patched and updated there and then.
An engineer like me who makes "conservative" choices in what software is running doesn't experience such things, so you might want to do things better and follow my example.
@@terrydaktyllus1320flatpak is awesome and widespread linux adoption rises and falls with solutions like flatpak. get over it.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 So YOU are the example to follow? I didn't knew I was talking to the all mighty🙇 Lets propagate this and make sure everyone uses their computer like you do, thats what us simpletons should to, tell me where your church is located so I can go visit and be enlightened as well.
Can you please compare Warehouse and Flatseal? Thank you!
They do different things. You use Flatseal to control permissions for flatpaks in a gui. Warehouse is a more general manager for flatpaks.
@warhawk_yt thanks
Small correction & request :
- You can install just short name eg flatpak install bottles
- Please use overrides to make flatpaks use system theme. Many guides omline
>- You can install just short name eg flatpak install bottles
A little nitpicky but, yes you can do that but you're relying on flatpak search function in order to try and guess which program you want to install. And this sometimes doesn't work, the sure way of getting it right all the time is to use the extremely convoluted reverse dns system - or flatpak frontend with saner defaults, like warehouse.
@@VallThyo "A little nitpicky but, yes you can do that but you're relying on flatpak search function in order to try and guess which program you want to install."
The distros native package manager should already be able to do this. You make no case for flatpak anyway.
"And this sometimes doesn't work, the sure way of getting it right all the time is to use the extremely convoluted reverse dns system - or flatpak frontend with saner defaults, like warehouse."
You don't usually need reverse DNS to use a distros native package manager. You'll discover it probably relies on PKI to provide a good level of authentication to the distro user.
Flatpak is an entirely unnecessary piece of bloat that brings in a third party, and therefore more complexity and exposure to bugs, to provide packages.
Amazing review.
Warehouse was one of the programs that helped me transition to flatpaks, before it was such a mess with permissions and finding packages without having to go to the flathub site and copying the install linking and pasting on the terminal... while all functional was a lot of steps to just install something, and after that managing it was also a challenge, what if I wanted to just reset the user data and keep the program installed? That is possible but it's a command line entry that isn't too intuitive specially because the programs have weird names, and Warehouse makes all of that extremely simple.
Great program, great review.
What a neat tool, I like the user data display. Thanks for another great video.
I'm also an Arch guy, but often recruit noobs to Linux in which case I like to start them on vanilla stable distros [i.e. Debian] where Flatpak has been much more crucial... A GUI PM like this will be clutch!!
Flatseal and warehouse are very important programs
Agreed. Flatseal especially is soooo useful.
I've never found a need to use either. I use one distro and its native package manager. It has been that way for me in Linux since 1996.
@@terrydaktyllus1320Congratulations! A lot of people use native packages and flatpaks together :)
@@terrydaktyllus1320 wow which distro do you use
@@averagetechnologyenojyer Gentoo. Since 2003.
Don't get me wrong, if Warehouse had been available in 2005/6 and installing or uninstalling programs was that simple, the current OS market would see Linux boasting 90% of general consumers.
But it wasn't available in 2005/6 so you've made a completely fictitious and irrelevant point anyway.
We live in 2025.
@@wilddemur9796 Well done. You know what year we are in.
Lesson 2 in "When Will I Be Ready For Linux" is to use your fingers and thumbs to count to 10".
In your own time...
@@terrydaktyllus1320 it's charming to see you try. My hypothetical scenario examines how pivotal innovations could have reshaped the tech landscape. Calling it 'fictitious' reveals your ineptitude in understanding broader trends. The conversation here is lightyears beyond Lesson 2, which seems to be your limit. Take your time catching up; comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit.
@@tasmonislam "it's charming to see you try."
You seem to have this habit of never fully explaining yourself - I am still waiting for you to define your use of "user friendly" to me.
It's "chaming" to see me try what, precisely?
"My hypothetical scenario examines how pivotal innovations could have reshaped the tech landscape."
"Hypothesis = rationalised opinion". It's still just an opinion.
" Calling it 'fictitious' reveals your ineptitude in understanding broader trends."
No, you called it "fictitious" by calling it a "hypothesis" because that's what a hypothesis is. Do try harder to keep up, these are your words you seem to use incorrectly.
"The conversation here is lightyears beyond Lesson 2, which seems to be your limit."
No, this isn't a discussion about me, do try to stay on topic. You write words, I question why you use them and ask you to define them. Don't start trying to attack me personally because you can't explain the usage of your own words.
"Take your time catching up; comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit."
I am still waiting for you to catch up by explaining your usage of "user friendly". Is that coming soon? Or do you need a bit longer to prevaricate and find excuses not to do it because I've backed you into a corner?
It could use some more information about package you want to install.
Great app.. if it has an update option would make us even more lazy than run Flatpak Update
I've gotten to the point where I have a bash alias setup that chains all my different update commands together so I don't have to type them all out lol.
... and one flatpak to rule them all.
...unless its snaps, appimages or "Pick 'n' Nix OS" for people that can't make up their minds what they want.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 yeah. what ever happened to bare metal? that's my preference.
@@kakarroto007 This is not an issue of "bare metal" or not. I have no issue with host-based virtualisation which uses similar engineering methodologies to create optimised VMs in a similar way to how you would build them on baremetal. There is also a case for containerisation but mainly in networked environments or micro-services.
Using a "universal package manager" created by a third party instead of a distro's native package manager (whether "bare metal" or virtualised) just adds additional bloat and complexity.
I know for sure I got an freedesktop sdk orphan, trying this later to clean up.
Told You so!!!
I'm on Linux Mint, is this just as safe, stable and integrated as using the already provided Software Manager?
Absolutely, apart from the app theme (it is LibAdwaita, but it still will work), it works perfectly fine, and much better for unverified flatpaks.
@@cameronbosch1213 Thank you, could you provide a brief explanation why this would be better for unverified Flatpaks? (I'm guessing that "unverified" means Flatpaks that are not in the repository?) Does that perhaps mean that it provides some kind of layer of vetting? Or maybe some user ability for inspection?
@@kmg501 Unverified Flatpaks are once not made by the applications' original developer or a party officially affiliated with them. Some propietary applications like Chrome and Spotify are like this, but also some FOSS apps like VLC, the Dolphin Emulator, and the Proton apps, all are unverified, which for Linux Mint, seem to be an issue, because to install those applications on Linux Mint, you need to enable seeing those applications in the software store, but they still won't show reviews, making it hard to know if the application is good but also denying newcomers applications or sticking them with older application versions.
*the language and the libs