@@jessesandburg yeah it punishes opponents for doing what you wanna do the most while rewarding you for that. It's very good in cedh (maybe not in all deck that can run it but most deck for sure).
notably for the conversation starting at 12:40 , Cameron has a 2/2 Bird from swan song that he can use to block the flyer. Something to consider, still a tricky situation
Good catch, I think the birb actually makes the play that happened the correct play. Attacking cam would do nothing as cam chumps it, has rollick (and the hidden info boseiju) to deal with Tyler's win. At least attacking Tyler means Dylan draws and has a potential out.
soooo Drana would not have been able to kill Cam, he had the swan song bird (that he moves onto the zombie pile, and i think thats where it got forgotten and mistaken for a zombie?) so he would have had a blocker. changes the conversation on Dylans choice of attack quite a bit i am thinking
in fact this changes it so that attacking tyler (what he did) is the only play, because attacking cam doesn't accomplish anything and attacking tyler at least lets him draw a card
I feel like not stopping the obvious, on table win was incorrect. Sure, dealing with kinnan would have been complex. But there was at least a chance of solving that equation. The on board thassa’s Oracle was a solved equation where you know you lost.
Haa anybody thought of dargo tormod? Tormod gives zombies for cycling through the dargo combo which is also fodder for if whiffs the combo to sacrifice to jumpstart the combo again. Also it adds a contrasting rakdos midrange plan wirh the explosive dargo combo
Dargo tormod can be good but the commanders don't give you any card draw/advantage or mana (at least not by themselves). You could technically count dargo as a beater by normally I think people save him for the turn they win so you're only really getting some combo potential out of the command zone. Also Rograkh + almost any other partner exists
Putting zombies on board is about the mildest thing to be doing with Dargo tbh. In Jund you can literally T2 go off, pretty similar in mardu with Tymna. I feel like if you want Rakdos you could go Tevesh and get some really solid draw in the zone, but idk that Tormod really brings enough to the table. It's hard to overstate how busted Dargo is that zombies really aren't enough.
I think for as long as the one ring is in almost every deck sheoldres is a no brainer, especially in blood pod, because the damage you’re taking at that point is crazy
It wasn’t cedh but I was play one day and someone countered my Geyadrone dihada turn four with a pricy $$ counter spell. Some turns later someone won with the spell that lets you sac lands and fine the gates, with maze’s end. I was so pissed. That’s how I felt seeing the mental misstep 😢
Hey cam, you can play tempt with discovery in your wort deck. It sounds weird, but you copy it. If everyone says yes and find a land for both copies then you get 8 of any land incuding nonbasics out of your deck that enter untapped assuming the land you get doesn't enter tapped on its own. Meaning that you can get gaea's cradle, tron lands ect. And basically get kinda like an ad nauseum for mana. Also that shit enter untapped, so you can double tempt into something silly like a double finally of devestation, or double tooth and nail or something else ridiculous.
Took top 4 in cEDH tournament yesterday with Godo 😊. Yisan did not approve so need Dylan to pilot him to a win next weekend. Its been 84 years since Vegas sir.
I'm going to be honest, sheoldred the apocalypse is absolutely a CEDH worthy card. It directly punishes one of the main ways people try to win, drawing a ton of cards
well and if you put cam to 1 life and he is dead to his draw from sheoldred, then he shouldnt really interact with tyler, that would be kingmaking. at least thats my opinion: if you are going to die no matter what, you should not interact
I would love to play some cEDH but I don't have a lot of the needed pieces like fast mana etc. Any budget lists for decks? Maybe more around $500 or so.
There are plenty of resources for that. I unfortunately am blanking on them at the moment. the communuty is also very proxy friendly if you want to go that route.
@@Demon_of_Razgriz ya sadly I live in Thailand and the community here is not proxy friendly. No such thing as a completion that allows any proxies. I am blown away that they even have the money for an entire deck of no proxies.
Very good game, i would had went for the Basalt Monolith just cause it's a combo piece which should have higher priority to remove. The Mox Diamond is just "mana" and it's just "one mana." Nice to see Sidisi, Brood Tyrant. Very powerful commander and has alot of "synergy" cards that want you to have alot of mana. i can't help but put in those creatures that let you exile from graveyard to return a creature from graveyard to hand, and the model cards that are creature on front, land on back. i would not had ever thought to do Food Chain with her, wouldn't think it would work and it's an interesting strategy. Just feels like a worse Tayam, Luminous Enigma.
You guys can ask for a decklist at anytime right ? If thats the case dylan could have checked cams grave and notice that the boseju wasnt there therefor. A 90 percent chance it was in cams hand. And playing like he had the answer to the basalt manalith Even without the decklist. Every green deck plays boseju Still cool game. Keep it up guys
Aside from Tymna/Jeska what other Mardu commander(s) are viable for cedh or high level play? I wanna make Isshin but he literally doesn't do anything lol
Kaalia used to be on the database, wins through breach/ or raz leonin+animate dead. Ad naus and a couple of big demons. Kroxa Kuranos is fringe but a one card combo with altar of dementia. Dihada is cedh
I’m not a CEDH expert. But I do play a lot of Manglehorn. I’m not sure in what world hitting a Mox Diamond instead of a Kinnan Basalt is ever correct. Sure, Cam eventually won but that doesn’t make it the correct play. Nice politicking by Tyler tho 👍🏽
11:46 couldn’t cam just win on the spot here? Everybody just used their countermagic so why didn’t he just sac his three creatures and get back thassas oracle for the win?
it feels like every time sheoldred's played in a game, dylan will be like "yeah i'm not sold on this card in cedh but rn it's really good"
Haha its so good
Considering cedh revolves around drawing like crazy. Its pure value
@@jessesandburg yeah it punishes opponents for doing what you wanna do the most while rewarding you for that. It's very good in cedh (maybe not in all deck that can run it but most deck for sure).
but he lost...
@MindLaboratory that doesn't mean that it wasn't good
That was the worst mental misstep I’ve seen in a very long time 😂
beautiful play at the end there by cam
notably for the conversation starting at 12:40 , Cameron has a 2/2 Bird from swan song that he can use to block the flyer. Something to consider, still a tricky situation
Good catch, I think the birb actually makes the play that happened the correct play. Attacking cam would do nothing as cam chumps it, has rollick (and the hidden info boseiju) to deal with Tyler's win.
At least attacking Tyler means Dylan draws and has a potential out.
So happy my altered Swan Song is still in Tylers deck!
Oh shit you did some work for them? Killer!
15:00 i love it when my simian spirit guide exiles for green
Edit: (Had my youtube on timeremaining my bad)
Where?
It's actually at 15:00, Cameron says "simian spirit guide" when he meant elvish
Tyler’s mental there was pretty funny
Trolled the game on a mana dork then instantly loses lmao
soooo Drana would not have been able to kill Cam, he had the swan song bird (that he moves onto the zombie pile, and i think thats where it got forgotten and mistaken for a zombie?) so he would have had a blocker.
changes the conversation on Dylans choice of attack quite a bit i am thinking
in fact this changes it so that attacking tyler (what he did) is the only play, because attacking cam doesn't accomplish anything and attacking tyler at least lets him draw a card
the games the last several weeks have all been awesome
I feel like not stopping the obvious, on table win was incorrect. Sure, dealing with kinnan would have been complex. But there was at least a chance of solving that equation. The on board thassa’s Oracle was a solved equation where you know you lost.
Love the analysis and tactics discussion.
Keep it up guys.
Respect for running an ad like that I’m sure she didn’t pay you and you guys did that out of love and that’s mad cool.
Love seeing y’all’s content! ❤
Sidisi is always a treat to see
It didn't matter in the end, but Oppositiom Agent is in play whenever Cam channeled Boseiju targeting Basalt Monolith
Haa anybody thought of dargo tormod? Tormod gives zombies for cycling through the dargo combo which is also fodder for if whiffs the combo to sacrifice to jumpstart the combo again. Also it adds a contrasting rakdos midrange plan wirh the explosive dargo combo
Dargo tormod can be good but the commanders don't give you any card draw/advantage or mana (at least not by themselves). You could technically count dargo as a beater by normally I think people save him for the turn they win so you're only really getting some combo potential out of the command zone. Also Rograkh + almost any other partner exists
Putting zombies on board is about the mildest thing to be doing with Dargo tbh. In Jund you can literally T2 go off, pretty similar in mardu with Tymna. I feel like if you want Rakdos you could go Tevesh and get some really solid draw in the zone, but idk that Tormod really brings enough to the table. It's hard to overstate how busted Dargo is that zombies really aren't enough.
That was amazing! Well played!
Honestly great game with going over the decisions. No easy answers which is why it's so great
I think that's the most disturbing "Begin" yet, and I love it.
"Avacyn's Pilgrim"
"Counter"
"Dude, wtf?"
I think for as long as the one ring is in almost every deck sheoldres is a no brainer, especially in blood pod, because the damage you’re taking at that point is crazy
I think, in 9:00 , wolf draw with Kraum but nobody cast 2 spells in their turn. A little tricky for the situation
I love the editing on this episode! So fun watching politics and conversation
Great game, a lot of responsible plays. We love to see it.
I feel like everytime I watch you guys Tyler's playing kinnan, does this man play anything else ever?
What a win Cam
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Cue circus music - this ones called he layeth on high. Its about a big baby duck that gets its head caught in a stewed tomato.
This one's somber so it's alright to cry
Sheoldred is a wonderful card
keep playing it pls
The premature mental misstep... always hilarious hahaha
Another sick game!! Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!!
It wasn’t cedh but I was play one day and someone countered my Geyadrone dihada turn four with a pricy $$ counter spell. Some turns later someone won with the spell that lets you sac lands and fine the gates, with maze’s end. I was so pissed. That’s how I felt seeing the mental misstep 😢
Hey cam, you can play tempt with discovery in your wort deck. It sounds weird, but you copy it. If everyone says yes and find a land for both copies then you get 8 of any land incuding nonbasics out of your deck that enter untapped assuming the land you get doesn't enter tapped on its own. Meaning that you can get gaea's cradle, tron lands ect. And basically get kinda like an ad nauseum for mana. Also that shit enter untapped, so you can double tempt into something silly like a double finally of devestation, or double tooth and nail or something else ridiculous.
I'm wondering how one gets to play with the Play to Win team?
Be a popular content creator I would assume.
What an f-in’ great game !!
As my personal casual pet deck, it's awesome seeing Sidisi get the win, even if it wasn't zombie tribal lmao
The wolf Mox masters special . Jeeeeeeee willikerzzzzz
Took top 4 in cEDH tournament yesterday with Godo 😊. Yisan did not approve so need Dylan to pilot him to a win next weekend.
Its been 84 years since Vegas sir.
What do you think of the new marchesa? Would like to see one of you build her :)
PaZzesco davvero spettacolo 😂😂 grandi che game 😮 ❤
Can you expand on why is stax considered 'bad/not good' in cEDH right now?
Thanks to Dylan playing blood pod I know how to stop it. So thanks guys I have definitely learned a lot from watching you guys
Yeah baby let's go! ❤❤❤
I love you guys lets go!
You guys should do a raffine scheming seer deck in play to win. It might just he meta
Just noticed here could not search after the bosiju due to opp Agent
Great game!!!!
My body is ready
Usually you win by doing a cool play in game. This time you won by playing the players nice !!!
That game was nutty
I'm going to be honest, sheoldred the apocalypse is absolutely a CEDH worthy card. It directly punishes one of the main ways people try to win, drawing a ton of cards
i NEED Wolfs playmat
well and if you put cam to 1 life and he is dead to his draw from sheoldred, then he shouldnt really interact with tyler, that would be kingmaking. at least thats my opinion: if you are going to die no matter what, you should not interact
Note gang checking in
This is why I always Misstep the dorks, especially in a pod deck
I think Sidisi is a super value engine with gorehound
I need a new playmat
I would love to play some cEDH but I don't have a lot of the needed pieces like fast mana etc. Any budget lists for decks? Maybe more around $500 or so.
There are plenty of resources for that. I unfortunately am blanking on them at the moment.
the communuty is also very proxy friendly if you want to go that route.
@@Demon_of_Razgriz ya sadly I live in Thailand and the community here is not proxy friendly. No such thing as a completion that allows any proxies. I am blown away that they even have the money for an entire deck of no proxies.
Very good game, i would had went for the Basalt Monolith just cause it's a combo piece which should have higher priority to remove. The Mox Diamond is just "mana" and it's just "one mana."
Nice to see Sidisi, Brood Tyrant. Very powerful commander and has alot of "synergy" cards that want you to have alot of mana. i can't help but put in those creatures that let you exile from graveyard to return a creature from graveyard to hand, and the model cards that are creature on front, land on back. i would not had ever thought to do Food Chain with her, wouldn't think it would work and it's an interesting strategy. Just feels like a worse Tayam, Luminous Enigma.
You guys can ask for a decklist at anytime right ?
If thats the case dylan could have checked cams grave and notice that the boseju wasnt there therefor. A 90 percent chance it was in cams hand. And playing like he had the answer to the basalt manalith
Even without the decklist. Every green deck plays boseju
Still cool game. Keep it up guys
Would cam technically have taken the land from Tyler when he boseiju’d cuz of opp agent?
Honestly tho great game and my favorite channel for cedh gameplay
Is alms collector good?
3 mana - 1 which is W
If the opponent draws 2 or more, instead, we both draw one, good to try stop people out drawing me?
Aside from Tymna/Jeska what other Mardu commander(s) are viable for cedh or high level play? I wanna make Isshin but he literally doesn't do anything lol
Kaalia used to be on the database, wins through breach/ or raz leonin+animate dead. Ad naus and a couple of big demons.
Kroxa Kuranos is fringe but a one card combo with altar of dementia.
Dihada is cedh
As Damo said, Dihada is another one and also Rog/Tymna. Both of them are very turbo.
What a game 😂
I’m not a CEDH expert. But I do play a lot of Manglehorn. I’m not sure in what world hitting a Mox Diamond instead of a Kinnan Basalt is ever correct. Sure, Cam eventually won but that doesn’t make it the correct play. Nice politicking by Tyler tho 👍🏽
The algorithm.
Why not just play the dread return with one card in deck?
had to discard it at the end of turn
Hey guys can we get some new hoodies on the store mines showing its age 😢
cue circus music LOL
I feel like sheoldred makes the one ring impossible to play.
I mean, Cam just drew anyway and won the game, so it's pretty clear it doesn't stop draws from being good.
@@jakemaxwell3810 yeah i know 🤣. This was in response to the is sheoldred good comment.
@@jakemaxwell3810 3 life per card essentially is alot although most of its backloaded on the one ring sheoldred frontloads alot of it as well.
Love celebs who play magic or other card games. We get to see what out decks want to be blinged out like.
11:46 couldn’t cam just win on the spot here? Everybody just used their countermagic so why didn’t he just sac his three creatures and get back thassas oracle for the win?
discard is at the discard phase and dread return is a sorcery.
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Sheolsred shines in a wheel deck
I saw Sidisi and immediately thought Rebel would be the pilot, lol
Isn't Sidisi just boomer Master, Transcendant?
Would it have been better to let the mana drain and the thassa's Oracle resolve, then keep the swan song to use on the pact/consultation afterwards?
Wouldn't wolf not be dead yet.? the stack didn't clear. Unless he just said fuck it XD
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hi
i knew dread return was a good card
Tyler NOOOOO!
Also good god, Nice gaea's craddle Dylan!
Sidisi?
Sidisi, Brood Tyrant 1BGU
Used to be the top commander in cEDH.
My name is masked wolf and I no longer like playing magic with my friends
Please please Tyler play any other deck. Every single video is always kinnan.
Always remove Kinnan. Always remove Basalt.
Which one of you is the girl?
Dylan play sleepwalker by parkway drive next time someone goes off
always bolt the bird
First🎉🎉🎉🎉
What a dumb play letting Cam live
Sultai sidisi ❌👎🥱
Mono black sidisi ✅👍😎
W. T. F. IS THIS