Making a Scrub Plane - Convert your Stanley | Paul Sellers
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- Scrub planes are not exclusively used to mill wood to the required dimensions; they are also ideal for hogging off large amounts of wood in everyday woodworking situations.
In this video, Paul Sellers walks you through the steps to customise a basic No.4 Bailey pattern plane into a versatile and fully functional scrub plane, which will probably become one of your favourite plane additions. One great advantage about using a smoothing plane as a scrub plane is that it's not irreversible; you can simply load it with a regular, un-fettled cutting iron again, and you can continue using the same plane as a smoothing plane.
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I always love when even after all these years, Mr. Paul Sellers can even surprise himself! When he adjusted that plane, put that board in that vise and giant thick shavings started popping out ... even he was a bit surprised. How many people still find that sense of wonder after doing anything for 50 years. Got to love it, and well done that man!!
15:48 - The only video on the entirety of TH-cam with proper filing technique. Praise you.
Hey, Paul.
I really hope you read posts on your older videos... I feel like an idiot! I've been trying to true up a top for your workbench, and I've been planing by hand for weeks... Finally, I decided to try to convert an old Winchester #4, which was just "okay" as a smoothing plane, into a scrub plane...
What the heck have I been doing to myself?! This thing is GREAT!!! I've been killing myself with a #5 and a #4 Stanley when I should have just listened to you in the first place! 😂
If you follow Paul's videos, just do what he recommends to start with, and save yourself a lot of grief (and a few splinters!)
We are lucky to have the Internet and take lessons from such a professional like you Paul. Many thanks.
Mr. Sellers, I know this comment comes a long time after the episode aired. However, I wanted to assure you that it still is relevant. I have an old #5 Stanley Handyman plane which I got from my father's shop after he died. I followed all of the steps for restoring old planes and got it to the point that it was reasonably serviceable, although the mouth was far larger than most Stanley planes. I was never really satisfied with it. I later purchased an old Stanley #5 at an "antique" tool sale here in Dallas, for which I paid the princely sum of $50. I did the same restoration on it and turned it into a very fine jack plane. I recently decided to turn the old Handyman into a scrub plane. I had already put the camber on the blade using the recommendation found in a video by James Wright (Wood by Wright). I had begun the long and tedious task of setting the bevel by hand when I saw your video. I finished setting the bevel (roughly) on my grinder and then finished it up on water stones. This morning I finished the process of sharpening on the strop and reassembled the plane. That is where your pointers on adjusting the frog and filing the corners of the chip breaker came into play. After doing that, I was able to get the blade to completely retract. After final assembly, I tested it on an old scrap pine board and it worked beautifully. It only took a few strokes with a #4 1/2 smoother to get a buttery smooth surface. Thank you for all that you do and for all that I have learned from you.
Best regards.
Yet another comprehensive instruction from the Master using the same tools that a beginner might have but fine tuned to a professional spec, how lucky are we to have this free content at this level.
What a guy! "It will harden as soon as you plunge it...probably." Love the candor, the smile and the knowledge. You are my Bob Ross.
Reharden? Hogwash, only needs anealing blue to unharden and forge yellow to harden,
I can't believe no one commented on Paul's "Diamonds are Forever" joke. Loved it!
I got it immediately. Love Paul for that
I thought he was going to say Diamonds are a girls best friend!
This guy is just a font of knowledge.My favourite woodworking channel.
After watching your video I bought the cheapest plane set from Harbor Freight. Reshaped the iron according to your instructions and sharpened accordingly. It works just fine and I've been very happy with the results. Thank you again for your instructions which for a beginner like myself have made learning about wood working a pleasure and enjoyment beyond my expectations.
Needed to create an ‘adzed like’ finish on an oak beam casing for next week. Watched vid this morning, visited flea market this afternoon, bought stanley #4 for £15, went to workshop and carried out method demonstrated. Worked perfectly. Thank you very much! If only life was always this easy.
It works! I've turned a useless junk shop No. 5 into an effective scrub plane. A split log is now a flat beam for a shave horse. Many thank Mr. Sellers!
Your contribution to woodworking is immeasurable. Many thanks for sharing your vast experience.
I just made my first scrub plane after watching this video. It was easier than I thought it would be, even using sandpaper to shape the blade due to not having a bench-grinder. It probably took just a little longer than the length of this video. Having finished, I was very impressed by how easy it was to prepare some boards for a trestle table top. I should have done this a long time ago!
I wondered about this as I was watching. I don't have a grinding wheel so knowing this can be done using sandpaper with relatively little effort is good to know.
You can get grinding stones for drills to get it done a bit quicker
Only Paul Sellers could withstand showers of sparks on his hand while he grinds without even blinking. Thank you Paul for the wonderful tip. Looking forward to trying this soon!
Mr Paul is just amazing woodworker.. it seems that he has deep sense of humanity, thats why he always encourge us to do woodworking with minimalist cheap tools and no doubt that it still will producing great result 🙏☀️ thankyou verymuch Mr. Paul warm greet from Bali Indonesia ☀️
After watching this video and a couple of others, I converted a $10 Harbor Freight plane. Works remarkably well.
I hugely appreciate your videos and your detailed style of explanation. Thanks so much!
Thanks for another valuable and practical video.
I saw this video and I recycled a old spanish plane to scrub plane. Thanks for all your tips.
You make it look SO easy. I love watching your videos. Precise, practical and very well filmed.
Thank you for all of the work that you put into these videos. Now every time I go to the shop I watch a Paul Sellers video and my work has greatly improveds!
Always learn so much from your videos. Thanks so much Paul.
Reading your blog. Watching your informative videos. Learning new things! Keep up the great work Paul.
Thank you sir, you are enjoyable to listen to, calm and instruktable
Thank you Paul, great instructions. I will be turning and tuning my first Stanley No. 4 to a Scrub plane.
Thank you for this. Had a spare No.4 which is now a really effective scrub plane. Really enjoyable and satisfying to be able to fettle my own tools. Thanks again.
Just speechless because of the amount of skills Mr Seller is showing us. Thank you for educating the web. (Even his screwdriver is cool! 🙂)
One minor safety point, that I learned of years ago when I took up metal working: Though it's rare, bench grinder wheels can explode during startup, particularly if they've been subjected to a sharp blow or shock. The results can be catastrophic ...even fatal. It's a good habit to develop, to stand to one side, rather than in line with the wheel, until it comes up to speed.
As I said, it's a rare thing, but the precaution is a simple one to take.
If you have old grinding wheel, you can do the ring test to ensure there are no cracks.
Remove the wheel and support it on something non-metallic (a file handle works well). Lightly knock the wheel on the side in three places with a metallic item and listen for a nice ringing sound.
If you get a dull sound that doesn't ring there is a good chance your wheel is cracked and may be at risk of bursting.
When re-fittinf make sure the blotters (paper or card discs) are in place and if they are not, cereal boxes work great!
Should see my hand. Almost lost my thumb.
Absolutely amazing tutorial on setting up a No.4 scrub plane. Excellent!
Awesome! Your So lucky to have access to your experience, knowledge and wisdom/artistry. Thank you. Yes a scrub plane was once a diamond in the rough.
I have watched many of your videos and you have taught me many things. Keep up the good work. Thank you for your instruction.
Paul, Your presentation on the history of the scrub plane was very informative. Personally, I would like to see more along these lines. I am sure some woodworkers are focused on getting the work done every day, but as a serious hobbyist, I find that your insight into the actual history greatly adds to the enjoyment of the hobby and opens up my mind to new possibilities.
It is really nice to have someone available who not only learned the craft the correct (hard) way, but took the time to understand the details and history of the process.
I thank you for your efforts. They are greatly valued.
Ray
Ray Bohn: Hear! Hear!
Whole heartedly agreed! I'm just as fascinated in the "why" and "how it came to be" as I am in the "how to"
Thank you Mr. Sellers for your videos. I don’t find them nearly as intimidating as other “tutorial” type or at least demonstration videos. I just finished converting a No 62 Stanley Sweatheart low angle jack plane to a scrub plane. Wow! I took off the surface of the quarter-sawn maple really quickly. Too quickly, actually. I’m thrilled.
Now on to flattening the board, etc.
Anyway,
Thank you for your video
Loads of information as usual. Thanks Paul, yet again.
Thanks Paul for a great intro into making a scrub plane. I converted my 1944 Stanley #4 bench plane into a scrub plane using Your method and it has been the single best addition to my woodworking technique. Took a while to get the feel for it but well worth the effort. Your recent Scrub Plane Techniques vídeo was also very useful in changing my view of how wood can be formed.
thank you mr sellers.....this will be my project today with an old sargent #4!!! really like your videos.....thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I didn't know how badly I needed a scrub plane until I decided to make one ! Thank you Mr Sellers !
Always so addictive to watch your informative vedeos.
Loved the "diamonds are forever" aside.
I did this yesterday. Thanks so much Paul. It was a fun project and it works so good. I used my Irwin no 4.👍🏻😊
Excellent lesson mate! I will put this to good use in the near future when I build a new wooden work bench. Thank you for sharing your talents with us.
Thanks Paul! I just finished converting a #4 Footprint in a scrub plane under you video guidance and it works wonderful! Cheers from North Bay, Ontario, Canada!
Just made a scrub plane, wow it takes of wood with a vengeance. Thank you Paul for another fantastic video.
wow! what an education you provide! your knowledge is invaluable!
Paul, I watched thks video a few months ago and made a scrub blade based on your method. The other recommendations you have make a lot more sense now that I have used the blade. I have a cheap #4 that I will now modify based on you guidance as I now understand the plane modifications based on the problems I had using the blade. Great information. Understanding the plane in use helps the whole method make sense. Thanks for this and all of your videos. Stu
Picked up a Stanley Bailey No 5C Type 11 over the weekend to specifically turn it into a scrub plane. Worked like a charm. Paul's instruction is always as good as it gets. Thank you, Paul!
I'm especially fond of the fact that Paul uses a type 18 + to make this scrub . It seems a perfect use for those less desirable pieces .
After so much procrastinating, I bought a cheap #4 Stanley handyman plane (plastic handles) and modified as you show in this video. Works like a charm!
just what I was looking for. excellent. Thanks!! :)
I can't articulate how good this is. I had an old stanley with a slightly cracked sole on one side. Converted it this morning and its amazing . Picked up some old shelves on freecycle covered in a thick varnish. The scrub plane gets the finish off effortlessly.
its great watching you Paul you have me a lot with working with hand tools and how to maintained them thanks very much and all the best for the coming year
Great presentation Paul. I love your videos
Thank you Paul for another great tutorial. Just restored a rust Record no4 so I converted my Span no4 which already has a wide mouth. Wow what a great tool a scrub plane is it makes cleaning up rough timber a breeze.
I just happen to have a stanley 4, and I was about to buy a “scrub plane”. this is great. my planes are not taking off enough material so this is perfect.
This is the 3rd time Ive found your videos helpful.
Another thanks Paul. Finished a refurbishment today, iron ground / honed at 7" radius. Works well, leaves those tell-tale 'grooves' in the wood, and yes, works lovely at 45 degrees!
Tatty 20 pound ebay number four, now fully serviceable and ready to scrub!
Love watching your videos
love this video....finally making one for my shop Thanks!
Thank you for a great video of making a scrub plane. I purchased an enexpensive plane from a 2nd hand store. I used your method of restoring a plane and converted it into a scrub plane. Excellent videos.
Oh my God, you are really the best. I love how simple you made sharpening for my work. It works perfekt. Thank you a lot. All the best. Mike B.
Thank you Paul for this excellent video which joins the other outstanding videos that you have given the ww world.
Thank you for the video. I've just converted a no4 Stanley in about 10 minutes and what a difference it's made! Saved me loads of time and does a better job at neatly hogging off material than an electric planer
Ah......what a man you are Paul. You are tough as old boots too when you get going with that plane. Many thanks and I will be making this.
I have a Stanley 40 scrub plane and it's an engineering marvel. It's the lightest of all by big planes and it's simply amazing how much wood this thing can move and how fast.
I never thought to turn the blade vertically, all this time I've been horizontal and suffering just trying to gauge the angle.
Always learn so much paul now I know how to properly load my plane I was having some issues but im sure with this great info I will sort it out thanks :-)
Plunging in water after overheating a tempered blade does NOT re-harden it. Instead it freezes the crystals in their current configuration, which in the case of properly tempered steel, is softer than it was previously, and usually softer than desired. To re-harden you would need to heat the steel up to non-magnetic (a glowing red heat), quench/plunge at that time, and then temper accordingly. Just wanted to clarify: plunging an overheated edge prevents further damage, but does not reverse the softening that has just occurred. I hope this helps!
that's great ,Arron. thanks. I will look at correcting my error.
arron
This isn't exactly correct either. When you temper steel it changes color straw blue purple etc. Then polshing remowes this coloration... depending on the tool and temper if it's tempered to blue but then reheated to say light or dark straw by grinding and cooled you won't have exceeded the temperature to which it was tempered so you shouldn't lose hardness of your tool. It still won't reharden it to it's maximum hardness as if you heated it to austenite and requenched it though.
+Aaron Jermain techncial and interesting but does it matter when using this rough tool? I can see for the fine work of a smoothing plane which I think none of us would touch to a bench grinder
YouAre AnIdiot, is an idiot. This is horribly incorrect. A J is right.
Very nice! Thank you for sharing!!💜
EXCELLENT TUTORIAL. THANK YOU. FROM BRAZIL.
It's always funny when Paul hedges and says that something is not going to be perfect, but then he nails it and chuckles at his otherwordly skill. Cutting that arc with his knife is one example in this video.
Remarkable training video.
wow...the wisdom...thank you
Finally made one, works a charm. After some hogging the blade gets really hot!
Thanks Paul!
That's brilliant Paul thank you, I'm going to do that 👍
Very good video, especially if you want a multi-use plane, only used sometimes for a scrub by switching irons.
Made my scrub plane from a no-name #3 plane (as most of the manufactured scrubs are narrower than a #4) and just opened the front of the throat to about twice what it was originally (again, manufactured scrubs have very open square throats) with a small grinder cut-off wheel, as it was never going to be anything but a scrub ever again.
Great instruction.
I have been given a cheaper Footprint No 4 that is about to become a scrub plane. A Veritas is nearly $200CN so I am saving a lot. Thanks Paul. As always a helpful vid.
Gracias Paul.
First time I've seen Paul flip a switch
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Hi Paul, I wanted to thank you for your videos; I just can't get enough of them. This one in particular has been a real revolution for me. I recently converted a Stanley 604 which had a badly pitted iron into my first scrub plane after seeing this video. In addition to furniture making, I also enjoy making my own lumber - including wide, live edge slabs. But surfacing these has always been a tedious, dusty problem. With the scrub plane, I can remove the chainsaw marks and flatten a slab in a matter of minutes - something that used to take several hours with a belt sander.
I felt your belt sander comment 😂 awful things till you need one and they're the best things ever
Amazing!
Brilliant, thanks.
Brilliant!
Brilliant.
Weird i know but i love the sound of a scrub plane going through wood lol.
Thanks Paul
Great idea, I am going to try this with my 5c. Have you ever thought about a video teaching us about on the uncommon planes such as the scrapper, floor, radius, 45/55 types of planes?
Following this video and making my own scrub plane (from an old Bailey pre-war #4, a $20 eBay find) has been a revelation. I am in the process of making Paul's workbench using $3 2x4 studs from the big box store. These studs are rounded at the corner, leaving quite a lot of material to remove after lamination. The scrub plane has made it easy to "hog off" (as he puts it so charmingly) this excess material. It is an incredible time-saver! A few subsequent passes with a smoothing plane to bring it square and the resulting finish is fantastic. Thank you, Paul!
Guitar radius gauges (7.25") are perfect for drawing the curve on the iron. Also, I used a Grobet handfile to then radius the iron and it worked pretty well.
Thank you so much!
Thank's great to know this now
Thank you!
Paul, I'd like say you have some of the best videos on TH-cam. You are my go-to guy for technique. However, I need to chastise you for all your videos on restoring and sharpening planes of all types. I've found that just sharpening my chisels and plane irons has become the most therapeutic part of my day. I've also become hooked on collecting planes and have taken to garage sales and flea markets in search of old Stanley's. Just bought a 4 and another 5 on eBay and am looking for more. My wife wonders why I now accompany her to garage sales. Keep up the awesome work. Every video you make teaches more about my retirement hobby.
Just finished making mine from a flea marker Sargent no. 4. The mouth was already opened up and the cutter was in bad shape as it was a victim of a bench grinder. I gave $15 for the plane and took about 2 hours to figure out how to set up my disk sander to do the work of the grinder. I had to set the angle and add a wedge to get 30*. Some grinding, sharpening and I was hogging off slivers. thanks again Paul for the lesson.
Thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks for the great video and tutorial - Im into carving spoons and bowls from green wood and although axing the length of tree trunk can be quicker some woods have grain running in odd directions and you get a length ripping out. I started using a plane I bought at a boot sale and it did the job well - although took forever! I picked up another plane - Ross #4 and followed your video to convert it to a scrub plane. 3 quid for the plane an hour to get the blade setup. Happy days. I got a flat bottom to the blank in less time than before. Its now in my "carving" tool kit.Thanks again.
Yeah - I have 2 drawer knives... the scrub plane is brilliant for leveling off big areas when making bowls. Ill keep my eyes peeled for a big aggressive rasp when the boot sales open up again in summer.
Wow,
Thanks soo much for teaching us how to build scrub plane from regular plane..
I had idea like that before but never would try sacrifice my regular plane,just have to buy cheaper plane..
I did this with a #5, works great. Certainly cheaper with an ebay find than a new scrub!
Great project. Now, if the prices ever become reasonable on Ebay for a used No. 4 I can try this out for myself. Thanks Paul.
I did this with my garage sale Great Neck plane. It was useless for anything else but works well for that.
I have a vintage #4 and a new #4 (both Stanley). The new #4 has a very wide mouth (twice as wide as the vintage), which is great for a scrub plane but not so good for a smoother, so I converted the whole thing into a scrub plane and it works fine. To be honest, it's a very cheap way for beginners to get hold of a new scrub plane. While it would work ok as a smoother for someone starting out, they will probably want to get hold of either a vintage Stanley or a better new model for smoothing - and that is when the new #4 fills the gap with its other life as a perfectly good scrub plane. In fact, the wide mouth needs no file adjusting to work as a scrub plane. To anyone out there looking to get hold of a vintage #4 to convert into a dedicated scrub plane, I would say save your money and just buy a new inexpensive Stanley #4, radius the iron and away you go - you won't even need to spend too much time fettling the body (because it's not as critical with a scrub plane); soften all the hard edges quickly and move on with life. I don't own a bench grinder and it took me very little time to create a radius on the blade with just diamond plates. The only other upgrade I did was to replace the nasty plastic handles (tote and knob) with decent hardwood ones (that I bought on end-of-line sale for £11 a set); it now feels like a great plane with a designated place in my kit - a tool that I am proud to own.