Just a couple of days ago I caught my boyfriend in the middle of the room trying weird positions and i was like "what are you doing?!" and of course everything made sense after showing me your videos. :)) Keep up the amazing work!
I saw... When you shot, using that stance, and breathing, you hit the center spot with all three arrows... Normally, when you are explaining, while shooting, you hit less precisely... Not so weird... While that alone, proves the value, of that stand, and that breathing... In my eyes, you demonstrated that stance perfectly! I was taught that stance, both in Jiu Jitzy training and Shotokan Karate, and Tae Kwondo, and Tai Chi training... Sensei Chi from Chorea, (Chi is actually his name), visited Denmark, and gave lessons to "my" Tae Kwondo Club, and he said: That stance is mainly to "keep best contact with the ground", so "you stand like that, and walk like that, when fighting", as that keep the best possible ballance, so no punch can kick you out of balance... That includes "lowering the center of gravity"... And then he added: You also need to keep your CHI in the BELLY... In Jiu Jitzy, "the person with the lowest center of gravity, wins each time"... As I was the tallest, in that club too, I simply always lost, against the smallest women!!! But that did not discourage me... It was great training... But YOU added much more, by explaining, the added "physical benefits, regarding the muscles"... And I never considered "breating out while drawing" the bow... Thanks a lot, for yet an uniquely informative lesson... Kindest regards Dan from Denmark
When I use to shoot, I always shot in the complete "upright" & straight poise as I was taught when I was knee high to a grasshopper (no I'm not Qi Change Cain), thusly the need for an arm guard even with a recurve. As in my previous comment on another of your videos, you've explained the proper way to shoot; but this video is even better (and my TKD and JJS background helped me with this video) at show "your" roper way of shooting (stance wise). If I ever "get off my ass" and make "my version" Turkish Sytka Bow, your videos will be immensely helpful.
A great lesson, thank you! Strange that I never connected my past martial arts training with archery, but what you taught makes complete sense. I will definitely practice the 3 bows.
I still havent started practising archery, but it is refreshing to watch your videos. I used to practise kung fu and alot that you teach here is alignment with the postures that I learned in physical combat as well as internal training. In summary, your form of archery ( in terms of breathing ) is using constantly until arrow reaches the target the basic technique of chi kung ( Chi Gong ). When we used this in the gym we had the most stability in and strength. Really cool to see this in archery
thank you Igor. Not many see it like this. for me archery is a martial art, so of course all aspects of it has to be applied :) thanks again for watching
Thank you for sharing, I have friends who practice ninjutsu ( korean and japanese ) and also friends who hunt using bows professionaly ( for feral pig control ) who treat it this way. One thing i've heard about is using temperament for curve shots, or even that you dont need to change the temperament of an arrow for a curve shot when you use thumb release, do you know anything on this subject?
Awesome analogy visualization. While practicing this style at the range, I was transported back to a 13th century fortress , defending against invading Mongolian horseback forces. 🙏☯️
It is a great video and I see a lot of resemblance to my own martial arts practice. As a physio therapist and medical university student I have some comments here: The described posture definitely makes sense in the context of shooting a bow on foot. Especially the tucking in of the tailbone/ pelvis (referred to as posterior pelvic tilt) makes a ton of sense as you have a system of muscle slings across your abdomen and lifting the front of your pelvis engages them making for a steady and stable stance building on your legs. The (double) S-shape of the spine is an evolutionary result of humans walking upright, you see different configurations in animals. For us it needs to be a double S shape in day to day life as with organic matter a straight spine would be incapable of shock absorption. Obviously that can, if the bows of the spine (lordosis/kyphosis), are exaggerated lead to varies problems down the line. So for shooting it does make sense but you need a healthy middle ground as you do in all things. And an anecdote to the diaphragm: when you inhale it actually lowers down and presses on your abdominal organs and when you exhale it moves upwards as it has the shape of half a globe fixed on the inside of your ribs so when contracting it straightens out and so to speak pulls the lungs downwards via negative pressure in the pleura cavity. It does make sense what you say about lowering the diaphragm in a metaphorical way and it is easier to catch your meaning the way you explain it versus explaining the respiratory mechanics.
Now I learned something)) I was actually inhaling to draw, kind of to use the structure of inhalation to add power for a draw. I will definitely try this way when rain stops. Its pouring second day in a raw.
Thanks a lot for doing this video. I've been struggling with stability due to a longstanding pubic symphysis injury. This stance is about the only thing I've tried that gives me a stable shooting position. It's really similar to high horse riding stance in taekwondo.
Thanks to your videos and watching others as well but mostly yours I was able to shoot and got my first Bullseye on a wood Mongolian bow. You should make a more detailed DVD or downloadable home teaching course. Oh yes and I’m now concentrating on correcting my form and becoming a better shooter
Here, again, you showcase your talent. I've taught a lot of youth archery, and, using the right examples that are simple and repeatable is the only way it will absorb. By the way, since I think a little in German, when I use your initials, your name becomes Ahh-Ha! Get it?
I think you are mostly correct imagine on horseback the first bow balance your body to the horse. The second bow the horse to the body and thee third bow mind and energy to the bow in semblance between man and horse and horse and man. Ready for just the arrow to leave and strike.
HAHA. very nice. We share a common interest in the study of structure in internal martial arts. My prior experience in traditional Chinese Internal Martial Arts seems to be very useful in establishing a sound and stable structure for archery. Thank you for sharing.
I was struggling a bit with my progress lately, then decided to videotape me from 3 different angles to see if i visually spot any errors that i don't feel. Thats when i noticed that my stance is COMPLETELY off despite me thinking it was not... Basically i am leaning backwards when drawing the bow. The rest is also far from perfect. Thanks for the video, it helps me working on my stance :) After that i gotta take a closer look at my release... But hey, at least i get the arrow nocking right :D
Recently started shooting (3 months). I noticed just today that exhaling as I draw/release prevented my vision from shaking and let me see the target more clearly.
@@ArminHirmer That shopping mall noise feels very stressful when dealing with something as archery which is like meditation..... I hope one day you'll find nice quiet like retreat resort for this "lifestyle " kind of sport. Thanks for posting ....
Hey Armin, I'm curios about where this technique comes from. Is it based on any historical sources or some regional techniques, or is it something you developed yourself? If the latter what influences did you draw from? I'm also interested in what muscles you are working out and where any soreness develops. I currently am practicing Gao Ying which I find very therapeutic for my upper back.
That stance is taught in: Jiu Jitzu, Judo, Taekwondo, Shotokan Karate, Kiukushinkai Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, and many other styles, so it was the basics, from the "Stone Age Defence against all animals", long time before humans started warring... We can only prove that Humans shot Bows, from 100.000 years ago... Before that it was spears, with flint points, which was the main hunter weapon... While all nations which had no flint, started using Boomerangs and Kylies (curved wooden swords, you threw whirling, in a straight line)... In Danish KYLE means "throw hard"... And "Danish" came from the Orion Language, on the east coast of Africa... Still today, Danish language has many of the "first words, from the first human language"... "Humans" made flint weapons, from they were "Humanoid Apes", with a typical "ape size brain", starting 2,3 million years ago, and from then, the brain grew larger, reaching the human size, 1,9 million years ago, and the Orion race made perfectly shaped flint blades for knives, spears, and butcher axes, and also a "gigantic wood axe", and scrapers to clean animal skins, from that time, when living in Ethiopia... And used the same shapes, in all the other nations they made, over time... The exact same shapes, for more than 500.000 years... Those are found in all the "Orient Nations", which were only started in rich forests, along the coast... The second race, is the tall race, originally called the An People, later called the Danish People, which evolved from a mutant, in the Orion Race, about 270.000 years ago... They made no new inventions, except starting having "professional national Miners", to mine for all Danes, and for export, and forming a real National Trade Fleet, which started using a sail, and starting to navigate, after the stars, when crossing the open sea, with no land in sight... "Shortly after", one mutant in the Danish Nation, became the "stemfather" of the third race, which is the pure blackskinned race, with skin black like coal, with medium hight, and the slimmest body, so they were weakest, but the best runners... They defined themselves as Semi / Sami People, and made the gigantic "Great Semit Nation" between all the forests in Africa, and Arabia, and the south end of the Mid East, and in Persia, and the west side of the Indus Valley, in Pakistan... A gigantic area, in which all Blacks, were members of the same Nation... The Semit nation... And with human weapons, they did not need the impressive strength from the Orion race. We find a lot of misinformation, which confuse most, about the human evolution... Only few Ancient books have survived, which tells the truth, and basically "confirms what modern archaeology has found", while most history books, "state lies about the time, before the Warrior Kings started invading all nations", from the beginning of the Bronce Age, some 5.000 years ago... Those kings simply burned all universities, and all old books, and Healers, and removed the Professors and the School teachers, and started teaching a false "pre-history" in their new schools... We can call it propaganda, or simply "mis-information"... Those kings did not wish, people learned about "how rich and healthy and happy, all lived, before the king took the power" Modern history teaching still suffer from "not knowing the full truth"... And from evil humans who knowingly present false history, and false facts about archaeology! ... Some do that "for fun", others have a religious or political reason... But according to one old Danish book, the Orion race, evolved official schooling, by teachers, educated on national Universities, to teach all boys and girls... And evolved the medical science, and surgical science, and all about healthy foods, and developed dances, and "artistics"... And all that, was started in their first nation... That was named Orion Way... That was the forest in the highland in Ethiopia... They also developed the Orion Religion, teaching about ONE in space, who made the "Great Ball", from which the Ether Mass shot out, thus creating Electrons, which bonded, creating Protons, so Electrons and Protons created Atoms, so Atoms created Molecules, so eventually the "living molecule" was created, which was called the Gene Material... And mutants, with a flaw from the reprodution of that molecule, created new species... And such all species evolved... That religion said, the Creator had already made many "tiny copies of himself, in which he inserted his own good mentality", and those were the "Children of the Creator", and when the organic molecules, started making "living bodies", which basically measns they made a copy of themselves, then he inserted his children into them, to live a life, in each, and then took one out, when its body died, and placed that "spirit child" into another newborn organism... That way his children can live forever, in a line of new bodies... It seems the Chinese term CHI, actually meant "our immortal spirit body"... That is actually "our consciousness"... If the Creator moves that outside its living body, that body become unconscious, so "nobody feels the pains, in it"... Then, when the body have partially healed, and the pains become smaller, then the Creator moves that CHI inside again, and then that organic body "wakes up, and feel the remaining pain", and lives on... That was the socalled Orion Religion, which both Danes and the Balck Nations also followed, untill Warrior Kings stopped it, in all nations they took, and replaced it with a totally false religion... That included "evil spirit bodies", Demons and Devils, and even "one like the Creator, but evil", which is now often called Satan... But in Danish, the word Devil meant "a criminally evil human", and Demon simply meant "the mind", in a human... The fact was: Those Kings WERE DEVILS, with an EVIL MIND... Those Kings were "the most evil humans on the entire Planet"... That book even mention how Ether particles makes "the particles in light", we now call Photons, and mention "light travels "by transforming, and making lightshells"... And mention Electric and Magnetic Force, and also mention the Gravity Force... That Danish book said, all that science, including all about chemistry,. was developed by the Orion race... That book also say, no humans ever fought a "real war", untill the mad Kings did so, from the Bronce age... Only the infamous "Robber Clan" which was formed by criminals, who had been expelled from the Orion Nations, in southeast Persia, made tours, to attack and rob the other people, who were members of the other nations... Mainly attacking Semit Clans... But... Those "took the power over the Danes in the Mid east", about 11.000 BC... But after 30 years, those Danes became so poor, so those "Devils" could not "live rich", and went back home... It was only because of that "Robber Clan" that the Danish Cities, from that time were build, with strong defence walls... And perhaps that was also the reason, why those Danes started building stone cities, from about 9.000 BC... Less vulnarable to an attack with "fire balls"... From 8.500 BC, many of those Danes, became farmers... So their trade fleets exported wheat and barley, too... And from 7.000 BC, they lacked land for more farmers, and started emigrating, from the Mid East... They asked the neighbouring "Black Nations", which were the Great Turk Nation, (not the Minor Turks, Mino Taurs, who were Orions) and the large Semit nation, and both GAVE lands, (many tiny lands), to emigrant Danish Farmers, like they had already GIVEN many even smaller lands, for the Danish Trade Fleet Cities... That book date the main events in "Danish History, from 13.000 BC", with the astronomical 2.000 year periods, and that dating fits, with what modern archaeology has found, by carbon 13 dating... Regarding the attack on the Danes at 11.000 BC, one line say: They were so strong fighters, it was impossible for us, to win a fight, even without weapons... That confused me for a while... "Why would they fight without weapons?"... Untill I realized, that described, "That Robber Clan, mastered the Orient Martial Arts, with no weapons"... And no Dane could win over one of them, in a "sport competition fight without weapons"... In contrast most modern historians claim, "the Martial Arts were developed, during the latest 1.000 years... That is simply a mad claim... It is the Orient Nations in Asia, which are the main carriers of the "no-weapon-fighter-training"... That alone proves, it was not the tall Danish Race, nor the pure Black Race, who "invented fighting without weapons"... Even in South America, like in Brazil, the people train "similar moves", in the socalled "Brazilian Slave Dance"... When the Christian Europeans invaded, THEY did not bring that style of fighting to America... Today we know, the natives in America came from Asia, following the icecoast during the last iceage... Not walking, but paddling in long slim boats... Then they needed to be able to go "on land", if a storm started... The icecoast provided that posibility... The Inuits settled in the polar region, while emigrant clans from other Orient Nations, settled in all the good forests along the west coast, and then in the mountain forests, in South America, from where they finally spread to Brazil too... While those from the Black Race, settled on the open plains, along the rivers, and around lakes, mainly on the Prarie in North America... And those were not know to perform "Martial Arts"... Such we see, also the Brazilian Martial Arts, came to America, with the FIRST RACE... The Orion Race... That simply proves, the socalled Martial Arts were developed "before the last iceage started... But I believe, they were started, "about 1,9 million years ago"... Best regards Dan
@@sveng35 Hehe ;) Did you really read it all? I am impressed :) It was a "compressed version" of what I learned from 40 years with studies, of archaeological finds, and lots of ancient texts... I am fully aware, this is NOT what neither schools nor universities teach today! But just wait! More and more finds prove those "claims" are true... Perhaps in 50 years, even universities teach it! Sadly it takes very long time, before newfound knowledge "sink into the official teachings"... Archaeologists know many thing, which most would find "crazy"... Many ancient texts, teach things which most would find "impossible, because, they were SO primitive, in that time!" As that IS what schools and universities, teach today... So if you doubt, what I wrote, it proves you actually listened in school ;) And it is good and healthy to doubt, "surprising claims"... I can only asure you, I was not drunk, nor had I smoked funny tobacco ;) If you really wish confirmation, then start reading the Book of Zarathustra, aka Greater Bundhahism... That is the book which the socalled Zoroastrian religion was based on... Sadly with a few misunderstandings, due to bad rewrites... Language experts believe it was written about 3.900 years ago... It describes the Orion particle Physics, including Ether/Ore particles, the science of light, and the creation of electrons, protons, atoms and molecules, including the "living molecule", called the GENE material... But that part, is so badly rewritten/translated, so only highly educated particles physicists, like me, are able to recognize the basic meaning. Apart from that "obscure part", about the particle physics, and the Creator, you find "clear text" about other sciences, including correct meteorology... And a lot about astronomy... The book say, danish fleet astronomers, measured 6.480 stars for navigation... But most is about the history of the humans, starting with the first race, the Orions, and how they made the advanced human civilisation. With universities to teach school teachers, so all children were very well schooled... With elected rulers, and elections about all laws... Thus a true democracy! That was about the time, when they got the full human size brain... And according to good scientific datings, of archaeological finds, that was about 1,9 million years ago... But most history in that book is about the Danish nation in the Mid East. That nation was named Midgard, but in the english version of that book that name was changed to "center of Earth"... That nation was started about 15.000 years ago , both according to that book (using the astronomical 2.000 year periods, saying it was in the Age of Virgin) and according to archaeological finds... And from that time archaeologists, have documented, the most important "inventions" in that nation... Including building stone cities, with bathroom and toilet in each house, since 8.500 BC, and at the same time starting farming in a large scale, for export... In Denmark, archaeologists know that we, the Danes, came from Midgard, as farmers, about 4.000 BC... The Turk huntergathers owned all of Europe in that time... Except all the small lands they gave to the Danish fleets, and to the Danish farmers... So the Danes never "invaded and stole lands"... The good Turks welcomed us and gave us parts of their lands... Books from Scandinavia explain, it was the danish river fleet, aka the "Elver fleet" which sailed us up... Well, much later, the Danish Vikings sailed out and conquered lands... But that was in pure selfdefence to stop the eternal attacks on Denmark! But, only 40 years ago, all archaeologists believed, the oldest stonecity was build 3.000 BC, in Sumer, south of that Danish nation, which owned the land north of Sumer, and the land along the eastern coast of the Mediterranian Sea, except for Lebanon... The Jewish history books, correctly descibe, the Hebrews came up from Babylon, and met the DAN people... Who lived in and around all the stone cities... First the Hebrews attacked... And took several Danish cities, including Jerusalem... But later the Danes and the Hebrew made a treaty, and became allies... You can read all about it in the Bible. Gradually schools have changed what they teach, but in general, it takes more than 30 years, before new archaeological evidence, is taught in schools... IF you read the Greater Bundhahism, you will be STUNNED ;) No need for funny tobacco, to be "stoned" ;) But you will also see, that much in the Jewish religion, was copy-pasted from that book of Zarathustra... And see, the Jewish religion has a LOT of misunderstandings... Simply by misunderstanding parts in that book... But now I will stop, before your brain starts boiling, from information overload ;) Best regards Dan
I am not sure if i do this right according to veterans but when i shoot i like to bring my right elbow higher up, little bit more than shown in this clip, it gives me far more stability and better aim, lot better than i used to shoot before. Plz do correct me if i am wrong about it as i am totally self learned and this is the first time i watch somebody else explain these things.
The upper part of this stance is a lot like the first stance I was taught in Wing Chun Kung Fu with the pelvis position and the straight back but we would push the knees inwards and the toes pointed in slightly, Gee Kim Yeung Ma which roughly translates to goat pinching stance. This stance was not so much a fighting stance but a way to strenghten the leg structure whilst training sticking hands and form.We was taught to imagine a pole vertically going through the top of your head to the ground to keep you aligned, this imaginary pole was also the target for attacks to the center as it could be attacked from any angle or direction to break the opponents balance.
I have a question regarding archery I am awaiting my first horse bow for want of a better description, I am right handed but left eye dominant should I train myself to shoot left handed so I can get the arrow under my dominant eye ?
when you shoot instinctive (means you only look at the target) you can re-train your eyes to that and stay right handed. Best for me is always train both sides :) have fun.
great thanks for the reply, good thing about it is these bows have no arrow shelf so training both sides is possible... how well it goes is a different matter entirely :)
Mr. Hirmer, where did you learn how to shoot like this? I practice martial arts as well, so there have been times where I did somethings close to this, but I had no source telling to do it that way, although truthfully I would shoot better - I don't know why.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, standing in horse stance seemed to force me to line up, although I would use the Southern Kung fu horse stance, and I would lower my weight sometimes with my breath but I would hold it until I actually let the arrow go. I love your videos and find them very informative and entertaining: I always like your parting comments of looks.
thanks a lot, even Pu Bu is nice or Xie Bu. All nice to train, when you combine lowering the body and drawing the bow. As usual all starts at the same time, all ends same.
The three bows - a good metaphor! But when you explain the stance, I think you are making yourself unnecessarily weak, and a tucked pelvis and flat lower back is not healthy. If you tried doing this on a horse, I think you could injure your lower back seriously. I am no great authority on this, only draw on my own experience with shooting a bow and practicing the martial art of aikido, and having had health issues with my back. What I do differently than you and find effective also with 50+ pounds bows, are using belly breathing as I would do in aikido. That is 1) concentrating breathing in "hara" (lower belly) while "keeping the tail high", 2) compress the air out before pulling, 3) relax and let the air just flow into your body as you at the same time open up your upper body and extend your arms - this is the draw, 4) release the arrow when still inhaling, 5) relax as you exhale and follow through. This way it is the body that pulls the bow, not your arm, and the draw feel effortless. And the belly/core maintain strength all through the shot. A strong belly-breath will keep you firmly grounded and make your upper body flexible to turn, while not hurting your back in the long run. But the three body bows are still there! It's just another way to perform it which I think is both stronger and more healthy for your back.
Hi Ulf. Of course this stance is not for horse back. and of courser there are many more ways to do it. I am simply closer to chinese wushu and this is how we do it :)
Share a link to the breathing technique you are referring too please? I've always followed the technique shown in this video, but I'm open to learn different methods as well.
Just a couple of days ago I caught my boyfriend in the middle of the room trying weird positions and i was like "what are you doing?!" and of course everything made sense after showing me your videos. :)) Keep up the amazing work!
hehe you should have taken a video of him and upload it :D
I definitely will next time!
I saw... When you shot, using that stance, and breathing, you hit the center spot with all three arrows...
Normally, when you are explaining, while shooting, you hit less precisely... Not so weird...
While that alone, proves the value, of that stand, and that breathing...
In my eyes, you demonstrated that stance perfectly!
I was taught that stance, both in Jiu Jitzy training and Shotokan Karate, and Tae Kwondo, and Tai Chi training...
Sensei Chi from Chorea, (Chi is actually his name), visited Denmark, and gave lessons to "my" Tae Kwondo Club, and he said:
That stance is mainly to "keep best contact with the ground", so "you stand like that, and walk like that, when fighting",
as that keep the best possible ballance, so no punch can kick you out of balance...
That includes "lowering the center of gravity"...
And then he added: You also need to keep your CHI in the BELLY...
In Jiu Jitzy, "the person with the lowest center of gravity, wins each time"...
As I was the tallest, in that club too, I simply always lost, against the smallest women!!!
But that did not discourage me... It was great training...
But YOU added much more, by explaining, the added "physical benefits, regarding the muscles"...
And I never considered "breating out while drawing" the bow...
Thanks a lot, for yet an uniquely informative lesson...
Kindest regards
Dan from Denmark
Thank you, yes filming, talking and shooting :) not so easy at least for me. Thank you for watching and your comment
When I use to shoot, I always shot in the complete "upright" & straight poise as I was taught when I was knee high to a grasshopper (no I'm not Qi Change Cain), thusly the need for an arm guard even with a recurve. As in my previous comment on another of your videos, you've explained the proper way to shoot; but this video is even better (and my TKD and JJS background helped me with this video) at show "your" roper way of shooting (stance wise). If I ever "get off my ass" and make "my version" Turkish Sytka Bow, your videos will be immensely helpful.
Such a great way of visualizing and feeling your body. Something I find very helpful in day to day life as well.
Very clear instruction. Thank you!
A great lesson, thank you! Strange that I never connected my past martial arts training with archery, but what you taught makes complete sense. I will definitely practice the 3 bows.
thanks David and enjoy doing it. You will realise how good it feels
I still havent started practising archery, but it is refreshing to watch your videos. I used to practise kung fu and alot that you teach here is alignment with the postures that I learned in physical combat as well as internal training.
In summary, your form of archery ( in terms of breathing ) is using constantly until arrow reaches the target the basic technique of chi kung ( Chi Gong ).
When we used this in the gym we had the most stability in and strength. Really cool to see this in archery
thank you Igor. Not many see it like this. for me archery is a martial art, so of course all aspects of it has to be applied :) thanks again for watching
Thank you for sharing, I have friends who practice ninjutsu ( korean and japanese ) and also friends who hunt using bows professionaly ( for feral pig control ) who treat it this way.
One thing i've heard about is using temperament for curve shots, or even that you dont need to change the temperament of an arrow for a curve shot when you use thumb release, do you know anything on this subject?
I am not sure what you mean with temperament and curve shot
Awesome analogy visualization. While practicing this style at the range, I was transported back to a 13th century fortress , defending against invading Mongolian horseback forces. 🙏☯️
I'll have what he's having too..
It is a great video and I see a lot of resemblance to my own martial arts practice.
As a physio therapist and medical university student I have some comments here:
The described posture definitely makes sense in the context of shooting a bow on foot.
Especially the tucking in of the tailbone/ pelvis (referred to as posterior pelvic tilt) makes a ton of sense as you have a system of muscle slings across your abdomen and lifting the front of your pelvis engages them making for a steady and stable stance building on your legs.
The (double) S-shape of the spine is an evolutionary result of humans walking upright, you see different configurations in animals. For us it needs to be a double S shape in day to day life as with organic matter a straight spine would be incapable of shock absorption. Obviously that can, if the bows of the spine (lordosis/kyphosis), are exaggerated lead to varies problems down the line.
So for shooting it does make sense but you need a healthy middle ground as you do in all things.
And an anecdote to the diaphragm: when you inhale it actually lowers down and presses on your abdominal organs and when you exhale it moves upwards as it has the shape of half a globe fixed on the inside of your ribs so when contracting it straightens out and so to speak pulls the lungs downwards via negative pressure in the pleura cavity.
It does make sense what you say about lowering the diaphragm in a metaphorical way and it is easier to catch your meaning the way you explain it versus explaining the respiratory mechanics.
I really enjoy your videos , very informative and fun to watch thank you
Now I learned something)) I was actually inhaling to draw, kind of to use the structure of inhalation to add power for a draw. I will definitely try this way when rain stops. Its pouring second day in a raw.
Thanks a lot for doing this video. I've been struggling with stability due to a longstanding pubic symphysis injury. This stance is about the only thing I've tried that gives me a stable shooting position. It's really similar to high horse riding stance in taekwondo.
Thanks to your videos and watching others as well but mostly yours I was able to shoot and got my first Bullseye on a wood Mongolian bow. You should make a more detailed DVD or downloadable home teaching course. Oh yes and I’m now concentrating on correcting my form and becoming a better shooter
Interesting! I have already been experimenting with the "pelvis tilt" after seeing your other video. I feel balanced. :-]
great :)
Here, again, you showcase your talent. I've taught a lot of youth archery, and, using the right examples that are simple and repeatable is the only way it will absorb. By the way, since I think a little in German, when I use your initials, your name becomes Ahh-Ha! Get it?
I think you are mostly correct imagine on horseback the first bow balance your body to the horse. The second bow the horse to the body and thee third bow mind and energy to the bow in semblance between man and horse and horse and man. Ready for just the arrow to leave and strike.
HAHA. very nice. We share a common interest in the study of structure in internal martial arts. My prior experience in traditional Chinese Internal Martial Arts seems to be very useful in establishing a sound and stable structure for archery. Thank you for sharing.
:) of course, archery was always the first martial art and done right it contained the whole body. thanks for watching
I was struggling a bit with my progress lately, then decided to videotape me from 3 different angles to see if i visually spot any errors that i don't feel. Thats when i noticed that my stance is COMPLETELY off despite me thinking it was not... Basically i am leaning backwards when drawing the bow. The rest is also far from perfect.
Thanks for the video, it helps me working on my stance :)
After that i gotta take a closer look at my release...
But hey, at least i get the arrow nocking right :D
Thanks verry nice
Recently started shooting (3 months). I noticed just today that exhaling as I draw/release prevented my vision from shaking and let me see the target more clearly.
great! thanks for watching
Love the videos, and even more if the background noise were off. There seems to be a radio playing in the next room.
yes I would like that too. But my indoor range is in a shopping mall and they play music....
@@ArminHirmer That shopping mall noise feels very stressful when dealing with something as archery which is like meditation.....
I hope one day you'll find nice quiet like retreat resort for this "lifestyle " kind of sport.
Thanks for posting ....
Hey Armin,
I'm curios about where this technique comes from. Is it based on any historical sources or some regional techniques, or is it something you developed yourself? If the latter what influences did you draw from?
I'm also interested in what muscles you are working out and where any soreness develops. I currently am practicing Gao Ying which I find very therapeutic for my upper back.
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That stance is taught in: Jiu Jitzu, Judo, Taekwondo, Shotokan Karate, Kiukushinkai Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, and many other styles, so it was the basics, from the "Stone Age Defence against all animals", long time before humans started warring...
We can only prove that Humans shot Bows, from 100.000 years ago... Before that it was spears, with flint points, which was the main hunter weapon...
While all nations which had no flint, started using Boomerangs and Kylies (curved wooden swords, you threw whirling, in a straight line)...
In Danish KYLE means "throw hard"...
And "Danish" came from the Orion Language, on the east coast of Africa... Still today, Danish language has many of the "first words, from the first human language"...
"Humans" made flint weapons, from they were "Humanoid Apes", with a typical "ape size brain", starting 2,3 million years ago, and from then, the brain grew larger, reaching the human size, 1,9 million years ago, and the Orion race made perfectly shaped flint blades for knives, spears, and butcher axes, and also a "gigantic wood axe", and scrapers to clean animal skins, from that time, when living in Ethiopia... And used the same shapes, in all the other nations they made, over time... The exact same shapes, for more than 500.000 years...
Those are found in all the "Orient Nations", which were only started in rich forests, along the coast...
The second race, is the tall race, originally called the An People, later called the Danish People, which evolved from a mutant, in the Orion Race, about 270.000 years ago...
They made no new inventions, except starting having "professional national Miners", to mine for all Danes, and for export, and forming a real National Trade Fleet, which started using a sail, and starting to navigate, after the stars, when crossing the open sea, with no land in sight...
"Shortly after", one mutant in the Danish Nation, became the "stemfather" of the third race, which is the pure blackskinned race, with skin black like coal, with medium hight, and the slimmest body, so they were weakest, but the best runners... They defined themselves as Semi / Sami People,
and made the gigantic "Great Semit Nation" between all the forests in Africa, and Arabia, and the south end of the Mid East, and in Persia, and the west side of the Indus Valley, in Pakistan... A gigantic area, in which all Blacks, were members of the same Nation... The Semit nation... And with human weapons, they did not need the impressive strength from the Orion race.
We find a lot of misinformation, which confuse most, about the human evolution... Only few Ancient books have survived, which tells the truth, and basically "confirms what modern archaeology has found", while most history books, "state lies about the time, before the Warrior Kings started invading all nations", from the beginning of the Bronce Age, some 5.000 years ago... Those kings simply burned all universities, and all old books, and Healers, and removed the Professors and the School teachers, and started teaching a false "pre-history" in their new schools...
We can call it propaganda, or simply "mis-information"...
Those kings did not wish, people learned about "how rich and healthy and happy, all lived, before the king took the power"
Modern history teaching still suffer from "not knowing the full truth"...
And from evil humans who knowingly present false history, and false facts about archaeology! ... Some do that "for fun", others have a religious or political reason...
But according to one old Danish book, the Orion race, evolved official schooling, by teachers, educated on national Universities, to teach all boys and girls... And evolved the medical science, and surgical science, and all about healthy foods, and developed dances, and "artistics"... And all that, was started in their first nation... That was named Orion Way...
That was the forest in the highland in Ethiopia...
They also developed the Orion Religion, teaching about ONE in space, who made the "Great Ball", from which the Ether Mass shot out, thus creating Electrons, which bonded, creating Protons, so Electrons and Protons created Atoms, so Atoms created Molecules, so eventually the "living molecule" was created, which was called the Gene Material... And mutants, with a flaw from the reprodution of that molecule, created new species... And such all species evolved...
That religion said, the Creator had already made many "tiny copies of himself, in which he inserted his own good mentality", and those were the "Children of the Creator",
and when the organic molecules, started making "living bodies", which basically measns they made a copy of themselves, then he inserted his children into them, to live a life, in each, and then took one out, when its body died, and placed that "spirit child" into another newborn organism... That way his children can live forever, in a line of new bodies...
It seems the Chinese term CHI, actually meant "our immortal spirit body"... That is actually "our consciousness"... If the Creator moves that outside its living body, that body become unconscious, so "nobody feels the pains, in it"... Then, when the body have partially healed, and the pains become smaller, then the Creator moves that CHI inside again, and then that organic body "wakes up, and feel the remaining pain", and lives on...
That was the socalled Orion Religion, which both Danes and the Balck Nations also followed, untill Warrior Kings stopped it, in all nations they took, and replaced it with a totally false religion... That included "evil spirit bodies", Demons and Devils, and even "one like the Creator, but evil", which is now often called Satan...
But in Danish, the word Devil meant "a criminally evil human", and Demon simply meant "the mind", in a human...
The fact was: Those Kings WERE DEVILS, with an EVIL MIND... Those Kings were "the most evil humans on the entire Planet"...
That book even mention how Ether particles makes "the particles in light", we now call Photons,
and mention "light travels "by transforming, and making lightshells"... And mention Electric and Magnetic Force, and also mention the Gravity Force...
That Danish book said, all that science, including all about chemistry,. was developed by the Orion race...
That book also say, no humans ever fought a "real war", untill the mad Kings did so, from the Bronce age...
Only the infamous "Robber Clan" which was formed by criminals, who had been expelled from the Orion Nations, in southeast Persia,
made tours, to attack and rob the other people, who were members of the other nations... Mainly attacking Semit Clans... But...
Those "took the power over the Danes in the Mid east", about 11.000 BC... But after 30 years, those Danes became so poor, so those "Devils" could not "live rich", and went back home...
It was only because of that "Robber Clan" that the Danish Cities, from that time were build, with strong defence walls...
And perhaps that was also the reason, why those Danes started building stone cities, from about 9.000 BC... Less vulnarable to an attack with "fire balls"...
From 8.500 BC, many of those Danes, became farmers... So their trade fleets exported wheat and barley, too...
And from 7.000 BC, they lacked land for more farmers, and started emigrating, from the Mid East...
They asked the neighbouring "Black Nations", which were the Great Turk Nation, (not the Minor Turks, Mino Taurs, who were Orions) and the large Semit nation, and both GAVE lands, (many tiny lands), to emigrant Danish Farmers, like they had already GIVEN many even smaller lands, for the Danish Trade Fleet Cities...
That book date the main events in "Danish History, from 13.000 BC", with the astronomical 2.000 year periods, and that dating fits, with what modern archaeology has found, by carbon 13 dating...
Regarding the attack on the Danes at 11.000 BC, one line say: They were so strong fighters, it was impossible for us, to win a fight, even without weapons...
That confused me for a while... "Why would they fight without weapons?"... Untill I realized, that described, "That Robber Clan, mastered the Orient Martial Arts, with no weapons"...
And no Dane could win over one of them, in a "sport competition fight without weapons"...
In contrast most modern historians claim, "the Martial Arts were developed, during the latest 1.000 years... That is simply a mad claim...
It is the Orient Nations in Asia, which are the main carriers of the "no-weapon-fighter-training"...
That alone proves, it was not the tall Danish Race, nor the pure Black Race, who "invented fighting without weapons"...
Even in South America, like in Brazil, the people train "similar moves", in the socalled "Brazilian Slave Dance"...
When the Christian Europeans invaded, THEY did not bring that style of fighting to America...
Today we know, the natives in America came from Asia, following the icecoast during the last iceage...
Not walking, but paddling in long slim boats... Then they needed to be able to go "on land", if a storm started...
The icecoast provided that posibility...
The Inuits settled in the polar region, while emigrant clans from other Orient Nations, settled in all the good forests along the west coast,
and then in the mountain forests, in South America, from where they finally spread to Brazil too...
While those from the Black Race, settled on the open plains, along the rivers, and around lakes, mainly on the Prarie in North America... And those were not know to perform "Martial Arts"...
Such we see, also the Brazilian Martial Arts, came to America, with the FIRST RACE... The Orion Race...
That simply proves, the socalled Martial Arts were developed "before the last iceage started...
But I believe, they were started, "about 1,9 million years ago"...
Best regards
Dan
@@danboron1 I'll have what he's having.
@@sveng35 Hehe ;) Did you really read it all? I am impressed :)
It was a "compressed version" of what I learned from 40 years with studies, of archaeological finds, and lots of ancient texts...
I am fully aware, this is NOT what neither schools nor universities teach today!
But just wait! More and more finds prove those "claims" are true...
Perhaps in 50 years, even universities teach it!
Sadly it takes very long time, before newfound knowledge "sink into the official teachings"...
Archaeologists know many thing, which most would find "crazy"...
Many ancient texts, teach things which most would find "impossible, because, they were SO primitive, in that time!"
As that IS what schools and universities, teach today...
So if you doubt, what I wrote, it proves you actually listened in school ;)
And it is good and healthy to doubt, "surprising claims"...
I can only asure you, I was not drunk, nor had I smoked funny tobacco ;)
If you really wish confirmation, then start reading the Book of Zarathustra, aka Greater Bundhahism...
That is the book which the socalled Zoroastrian religion was based on...
Sadly with a few misunderstandings, due to bad rewrites...
Language experts believe it was written about 3.900 years ago...
It describes the Orion particle Physics, including Ether/Ore particles, the science of light, and the creation of electrons, protons, atoms and molecules, including the "living molecule", called the GENE material...
But that part, is so badly rewritten/translated, so only highly educated particles physicists, like me, are able to recognize the basic meaning.
Apart from that "obscure part", about the particle physics, and the Creator, you find "clear text" about other sciences, including correct meteorology... And a lot about astronomy...
The book say, danish fleet astronomers, measured 6.480 stars for navigation...
But most is about the history of the humans, starting with the first race, the Orions, and how they made the advanced human civilisation.
With universities to teach school teachers, so all children were very well schooled...
With elected rulers, and elections about all laws... Thus a true democracy!
That was about the time, when they got the full human size brain...
And according to good scientific datings, of archaeological finds, that was about 1,9 million years ago...
But most history in that book is about the Danish nation in the Mid East.
That nation was named Midgard, but in the english version of that book that name was changed to "center of Earth"...
That nation was started about 15.000 years ago , both according to that book (using the astronomical 2.000 year periods, saying it was in the Age of Virgin) and according to archaeological finds...
And from that time archaeologists, have documented, the most important "inventions" in that nation...
Including building stone cities, with bathroom and toilet in each house, since 8.500 BC,
and at the same time starting farming in a large scale, for export...
In Denmark, archaeologists know that we, the Danes, came from Midgard, as farmers, about 4.000 BC...
The Turk huntergathers owned all of Europe in that time... Except all the small lands they gave to the Danish fleets, and to the Danish farmers...
So the Danes never "invaded and stole lands"... The good Turks welcomed us and gave us parts of their lands...
Books from Scandinavia explain, it was the danish river fleet, aka the "Elver fleet" which sailed us up...
Well, much later, the Danish Vikings sailed out and conquered lands... But that was in pure selfdefence to stop the eternal attacks on Denmark!
But, only 40 years ago, all archaeologists believed, the oldest stonecity was build 3.000 BC, in Sumer, south of that Danish nation, which owned the land north of Sumer, and the land along the eastern coast of the Mediterranian Sea, except for Lebanon...
The Jewish history books, correctly descibe, the Hebrews came up from Babylon, and met the DAN people...
Who lived in and around all the stone cities...
First the Hebrews attacked... And took several Danish cities, including Jerusalem...
But later the Danes and the Hebrew made a treaty, and became allies...
You can read all about it in the Bible.
Gradually schools have changed what they teach, but in general, it takes more than 30 years, before new archaeological evidence, is taught in schools...
IF you read the Greater Bundhahism, you will be STUNNED ;)
No need for funny tobacco, to be "stoned" ;)
But you will also see, that much in the Jewish religion, was copy-pasted from that book of Zarathustra...
And see, the Jewish religion has a LOT of misunderstandings...
Simply by misunderstanding parts in that book...
But now I will stop, before your brain starts boiling, from information overload ;)
Best regards
Dan
Hello..could you do a new 6min or 3 min friday video on this topic?
I am not sure if i do this right according to veterans but when i shoot i like to bring my right elbow higher up, little bit more than shown in this clip, it gives me far more stability and better aim, lot better than i used to shoot before. Plz do correct me if i am wrong about it as i am totally self learned and this is the first time i watch somebody else explain these things.
Whatever works for you. I personally like to have my structure connected
The upper part of this stance is a lot like the first stance I was taught in Wing Chun Kung Fu with the pelvis position and the straight back but we would push the knees inwards and the toes pointed in slightly, Gee Kim Yeung Ma which roughly translates to goat pinching stance. This stance was not so much a fighting stance but a way to strenghten the leg structure whilst training sticking hands and form.We was taught to imagine a pole vertically going through the top of your head to the ground to keep you aligned, this imaginary pole was also the target for attacks to the center as it could be attacked from any angle or direction to break the opponents balance.
exactly. thanks for watching
I have a question regarding archery I am awaiting my first horse bow for want of a better description, I am right handed but left eye dominant should I train myself to shoot left handed so I can get the arrow under my dominant eye ?
when you shoot instinctive (means you only look at the target) you can re-train your eyes to that and stay right handed. Best for me is always train both sides :) have fun.
great thanks for the reply, good thing about it is these bows have no arrow shelf so training both sides is possible... how well it goes is a different matter entirely :)
you will manage
This looks like taichi, what is this discipline/tradition? Manchu archery, or something like that? I'd like to study it. Thanks
What about position for ladies..
Mr.Armin?
why should it be different?
Tq Sir .
Mr. Hirmer, where did you learn how to shoot like this? I practice martial arts as well, so there have been times where I did somethings close to this, but I had no source telling to do it that way, although truthfully I would shoot better - I don't know why.
all by myself and with studying some old texts and a bit common sense (out of martial arts, like structure and so)
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, standing in horse stance seemed to force me to line up, although I would use the Southern Kung fu horse stance, and I would lower my weight sometimes with my breath but I would hold it until I actually let the arrow go.
I love your videos and find them very informative and entertaining: I always like your parting comments of looks.
thanks a lot, even Pu Bu is nice or Xie Bu. All nice to train, when you combine lowering the body and drawing the bow. As usual all starts at the same time, all ends same.
The three bows - a good metaphor! But when you explain the stance, I think you are making yourself unnecessarily weak, and a tucked pelvis and flat lower back is not healthy. If you tried doing this on a horse, I think you could injure your lower back seriously. I am no great authority on this, only draw on my own experience with shooting a bow and practicing the martial art of aikido, and having had health issues with my back. What I do differently than you and find effective also with 50+ pounds bows, are using belly breathing as I would do in aikido. That is 1) concentrating breathing in "hara" (lower belly) while "keeping the tail high", 2) compress the air out before pulling, 3) relax and let the air just flow into your body as you at the same time open up your upper body and extend your arms - this is the draw, 4) release the arrow when still inhaling, 5) relax as you exhale and follow through. This way it is the body that pulls the bow, not your arm, and the draw feel effortless. And the belly/core maintain strength all through the shot. A strong belly-breath will keep you firmly grounded and make your upper body flexible to turn, while not hurting your back in the long run. But the three body bows are still there! It's just another way to perform it which I think is both stronger and more healthy for your back.
Hi Ulf. Of course this stance is not for horse back. and of courser there are many more ways to do it. I am simply closer to chinese wushu and this is how we do it :)
Share a link to the breathing technique you are referring too please?
I've always followed the technique shown in this video, but I'm open to learn different methods as well.
Geile Sache.
Sag mal, wirst du überhaupt nicht älter?
Alter was ist das :D
Ты мне втираеш какую-то дичь!