Inside Lacrosse's Lacrosse Film Room takes a closer look at Notre Dame’s Matt Landis vs. Albany’s Lyle Thompson in the NCAA Quarterfinals. More here: www.insidelacro...
I guess you weren't watching Landis who had several slashes to the helmet and throat that weren't called. And then there was the constant holding that Landis did. The refs were the mos pro-ND than I have ever seen.
@@bobpace9656 It's not a hold if he's not preventing him from going somewhere. Lyle for the most part just sits still and lifting the stick on a guy not moving his feet is not a hold.
Landis shut him down this game pretty good. I think Albany should have ran with their middle dodgers to kinda get a spark going and switch the defense eyes to the middies and then run it back with Thompson. Would have gave ND a hard time if they ran the plan like that.
Did you watch HOW Landis shut down Thompson? He held him the entire game without getting called. He always had several slashes not called. At one point the other ND d-pole (50?) slides to double team and clobbers Thompson on his upper back so hard Thompson does a faceplant. Give me a break. ND and Landis got away with murder this game.
Bob Pace thompson leans in to get the holding penalties on puropose. Landis isnt trying to hold, hes trying to annoy thompsons hands, but thompsons trying to get the flag eevry time
I don't care if Landis is 'trying to hold' or not. I care that he is holding on almost every play. And, what about the slashes that weren't called? I guess that is Thompson's fault, too. Funny how I have never seen any other defender be allowed by refs to do this. Yeah, keep drinking that kool aid. Domers, ugh.
@@bobpace9656 not sure you watched the same tape as everyone else bud, they gave thomspon two soft calls (the two holds they actually called were both soft, you can hear the announcers unable to even identify why they were called) and missed one that could potentially be a hold at the end of the third but honestly probably not thompson tried to jump and shoot or pass and got off balance. TBF they missed one in the middle of the fourth that was a definite hit to head but it was a lift check so they often let those fly. Seems pretty even, missed two calls gave two calls. Not to mention the fact that this is a championship game and they often allow teams to be more physical than regular season.
I don’t know how notre dame didn’t go undefeated with the team they had , arguably the greatest 3 person defense in lacrosse history Epple,Landis , and Glazner then you had Perkovic and Kavanaugh on the offense side , crazy
How much was Albany paying these officials? This was painful to watch. The calls were horrendous. Even on the first one the commentary said "Yeah, we're not sure why anything was called there..."
Landis dealt with him solo most of the time. He had help around, but he smothered "the goat". Pathetic. Lyle is the most overjoyed, most boring player I've ever seen. If he weren't res nobody would care about him and no ody would pretend he is good. The don't play d in pll or nll. So of course he gets goals. He hogs the ball. He is garbage.
There not slashes all are perfectly in control, none we malicious checks. All checks were in control, hitting the helmet on the lift check just naturally happens sometimes.
I respect Matt landis as an athlete but Jesus all the guy does is hold constantly. This game especially. Usually he gets away with it but it's harder with such a big name like Lyle Thompson.
Landis held him every chance he got .....ref only called it once or twice. The slide was what worked well for ND otherwise one on one Landis was shook every time.
Don't forget the slashes, too. What got me and my son (who was also watching) was Landis did this right in front of the ref who was looking right at them.
This is your fourth post on this same thing, so you clearly have a strong opinion. Don't know which game you were watching. Sure there was a few slaps here and there, and Landis got called for a hold at 2:53, but he was playing great position defense all game long against a nearly impossible assignment. When you are playing with your feet, officials allow you to play with your stick a little bit and I didn't see anything rough, cheap or game impacting at the level you describe. Sure, maybe they missed one or two slashes, and Landis was playing physical, but in my opinion he was playing hard and appropriate for a playoff game. Which minutes in this video do you think that Landis got away with "holding him the entire game, and ALWAYS had several slashes not called"? Frankly I thought that this was textbook defense against a strong offensive player, and have my defensemen watch this video. Perhaps if you indicate the minutes, then we can determine if you are just an Albany fan angry about the loss, or if there actually is some kind of pro-ND bias and referee conspiracy as you say.
+Mark Huber you can literally watch him hold virtually Almost every possession Thompson has. I like Matt landis! But at the same time I can't just sit here and pretend like he doesn't hold CONSTANTLY. It would be insulting my own lacrosse intelligence as someone who has played this game for 15+ years.
The way landis does the V hold (which is the way you should do it) he brings his stick across and pushes with his forearm, there was only 1 instance where he was using his stick to push away and it got called. When defenders do that it does look like they are pulling them with their sticks but in reality it’s the forearm
Honestly some of the best defense you will ever see considering the opponent
Great defense by Landis. Defending Lyle Thompson is a tough assignment, but he did very well considering how many times he was dodged on.
I personally think that Matt Landis is the most affective defensemen I’ve seen ever
JulianTheXBuild1985 really?
@@JulianTheXBuild ...the Thompson Brothers handel themselves with class, but this game ML...shut down lyle...85 percent of the game
There's a difference between illegal holding and keeping you stick on the gloves/V-holding.
The difference lies in whether your applying force with your arms/hands or with the shaft of the stick. The latter is illegal.
He was so applying pressure
I've never seen someone get as many calls as lyle thompson does
I guess you weren't watching Landis who had several slashes to the helmet and throat that weren't called. And then there was the constant holding that Landis did. The refs were the mos pro-ND than I have ever seen.
Seriously. He holds and wards constantly, and the officials call it the other way. This was a frustrating game to watch.
@@bobpace9656 It's not a hold if he's not preventing him from going somewhere. Lyle for the most part just sits still and lifting the stick on a guy not moving his feet is not a hold.
@NoHope7 the native got clamped
That’s a good thing. He’s good at getting calls
Landis shut him down this game pretty good. I think Albany should have ran with their middle dodgers to kinda get a spark going and switch the defense eyes to the middies and then run it back with Thompson. Would have gave ND a hard time if they ran the plan like that.
Did you watch HOW Landis shut down Thompson? He held him the entire game without getting called. He always had several slashes not called. At one point the other ND d-pole (50?) slides to double team and clobbers Thompson on his upper back so hard Thompson does a faceplant. Give me a break. ND and Landis got away with murder this game.
Bob Pace thompson leans in to get the holding penalties on puropose. Landis isnt trying to hold, hes trying to annoy thompsons hands, but thompsons trying to get the flag eevry time
I don't care if Landis is 'trying to hold' or not. I care that he is holding on almost every play. And, what about the slashes that weren't called? I guess that is Thompson's fault, too. Funny how I have never seen any other defender be allowed by refs to do this.
Yeah, keep drinking that kool aid. Domers, ugh.
@Rodney Walton 5 turnovers
@@bobpace9656 not sure you watched the same tape as everyone else bud, they gave thomspon two soft calls (the two holds they actually called were both soft, you can hear the announcers unable to even identify why they were called) and missed one that could potentially be a hold at the end of the third but honestly probably not thompson tried to jump and shoot or pass and got off balance. TBF they missed one in the middle of the fourth that was a definite hit to head but it was a lift check so they often let those fly. Seems pretty even, missed two calls gave two calls. Not to mention the fact that this is a championship game and they often allow teams to be more physical than regular season.
I just watched this again now 6 years later and the lack of 2 man game to help out is astounding
I just watched a game within a game with Lyle and Matt talk about a battle they were playing chess ♟
Now I see why Lyle Thompson makes the defense so nervous and that where he gets them at
I don’t know how notre dame didn’t go undefeated with the team they had , arguably the greatest 3 person defense in lacrosse history Epple,Landis , and Glazner then you had Perkovic and Kavanaugh on the offense side , crazy
Can you do a film room match up of petro and volkner vs the gait brothers from I believe the 1989 championship game?
Voelker, not Volkner
Voelker got worked and Petro shut Gait down.
How much was Albany paying these officials? This was painful to watch.
The calls were horrendous. Even on the first one the commentary said "Yeah, we're not sure why anything was called there..."
When was the last time an attackman won their matchup when the stakes were this high
You should do Pat Spencer vs Johnny Surdick
Nanticoke vs bombery was crazy
Denver offense is like the polar opposite to Albany's
Albanys is kinda bad
So what is this a 2 player game?
it wont be fair if its just Lyle Thompson vs the rest!
Where can i watch the complete match?
someone help lyle?
they definitely gameplanned for thompson here and it worked.
everytime the guy made a move with the ball he was immediately doubled.
Landis dealt with him solo most of the time. He had help around, but he smothered "the goat". Pathetic. Lyle is the most overjoyed, most boring player I've ever seen. If he weren't res nobody would care about him and no ody would pretend he is good. The don't play d in pll or nll. So of course he gets goals. He hogs the ball. He is garbage.
What the hell was that first flag? Refs are smokin that good ganja wtf 😂
It was a make up for a missed call
9:22 may have been the biggest ward of all time
ThePro no
when landis fell around 9:21 yes you could see his elbow hit and push him
ThePro watch it in slow motion, you will see that Landis' foot slipped from under him. Landis was also pushing on lyles back at the time he fell
And what about all the holds and slashes Landis got away with. The refs were a joke with how pro-ND they were.
Notre Dame's defense 👌👌👌
1:15 2:30 3:00 7:00
There not slashes all are perfectly in control, none we malicious checks. All checks were in control, hitting the helmet on the lift check just naturally happens sometimes.
No. Also what about the cross checks?
Ward at 15:53 what is the ref doing
Albany was taking dumb shots
Can we talk about Notre Dames goalie real quick?
Yea he was rly good
The first flag was because the thump in lyles back. Good call. You can’t let that unnecessary abuse slide
beautiful lacrosse. its jason bourne
I respect Matt landis as an athlete but Jesus all the guy does is hold constantly. This game especially. Usually he gets away with it but it's harder with such a big name like Lyle Thompson.
Lyle so sick
Landis held him every chance he got .....ref only called it once or twice. The slide was what worked well for ND otherwise one on one Landis was shook every time.
Oink
yahannah Sheffey agreed
Don’t get it
dirty D
You are funny
He turns the ball over way too much ball hogging
all landis did was hold
Don't forget the slashes, too. What got me and my son (who was also watching) was Landis did this right in front of the ref who was looking right at them.
This is your fourth post on this same thing, so you clearly have a strong opinion. Don't know which game you were watching. Sure there was a few slaps here and there, and Landis got called for a hold at 2:53, but he was playing great position defense all game long against a nearly impossible assignment. When you are playing with your feet, officials allow you to play with your stick a little bit and I didn't see anything rough, cheap or game impacting at the level you describe. Sure, maybe they missed one or two slashes, and Landis was playing physical, but in my opinion he was playing hard and appropriate for a playoff game. Which minutes in this video do you think that Landis got away with "holding him the entire game, and ALWAYS had several slashes not called"? Frankly I thought that this was textbook defense against a strong offensive player, and have my defensemen watch this video. Perhaps if you indicate the minutes, then we can determine if you are just an Albany fan angry about the loss, or if there actually is some kind of pro-ND bias and referee conspiracy as you say.
+Mark Huber you can literally watch him hold virtually Almost every possession Thompson has. I like Matt landis! But at the same time I can't just sit here and pretend like he doesn't hold CONSTANTLY. It would be insulting my own lacrosse intelligence as someone who has played this game for 15+ years.
its college lacrosse, and that was not holding
The way landis does the V hold (which is the way you should do it) he brings his stick across and pushes with his forearm, there was only 1 instance where he was using his stick to push away and it got called. When defenders do that it does look like they are pulling them with their sticks but in reality it’s the forearm