Thank you for sharing always sharing the details. It always comes down to details even when it seems unnecessary, it's most needed! Thank you again, bringing gentleman's ware to higher standards. -N
the saphir pommadier works for me too, the other day I gave a brother of mine a "new" black belt by applying the pommadier onto the leather which was gray already, the final result was impressive.
The Saphir Pommadier Cream Polish can certainly be used... we've used it in some old tutorials. But the Canadian is better for this purpose and doesn't have the same risk of rubbing off on clothing as the Pommadier Cream Polish.
yes you should. Often the belt consists of 2 layers of leather, a colored one and a neutral leather color. There is glue in between and ofcourse they are stitched together from the sides. You should just use a mink oil product to condition the lower layer aswell. You can check the layers very easily by making an extra hole to the belt. You can see the layers from the small piece that comes off or just by looking at the holes.
Great video, as always, Kirby. I have a question, what would be the best way to store belts in a wardrobe? Rolled up in a drawer or hanging? What’s your input?
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Classique I hang mine on one of our belt hangers. Belts don’t roll well - generally they are too stiff. Better and easier to hang.
Very cool. I made a lemon oil tallow mix on the stove, after repeated cleaning of the beef fat, for my leather jacket. The tallow mix lasted a year and a half before souring. My jaxket looks great. I will try some of your products.
Would the Saphir Renovateur and Cream Polish (like that used for shoes), work in a pinch? Also, would it be recommended to condition both sides of a belt?
Hi Kirby, I have have been following The Hanger Project TH-cam channel since it started. I personally would never wear a belt on a bespoke trouser, because if you wear a belt the trouser will slide down ever so slightly. If I had to choose, I would stick to suspenders, because they will keep trousers of the same length all day. My question is: Do you think a well-dressed man should invest in a quality belt if they wear a bespoke trouser?
Beement No... I honestly haven’t worn a belt with trousers since college. All of my trousers are tabbed. I’m having some cut for braces now. These Allen Edmund belts were just for the video.
Hi Kirby, love your videos. Can you refer to shoe/belt color coordination? how exact do they have to be? Sometimes it is difficult for me to find a belt that is the same color as my shoes. Appreciate your advise
What would you choose to condition the unlined interior of a tanned cowhide belt, which I have experienced drying out and becoming rough and more open celled?
Quick question. Just before the instructional portion starts (after you say "today we will be conditioning one of our...") there is a close up of 4 belts. Just wondering where the picture was obtained as the maroon grain belt really caught my eye. Been trying to look for a similar one to match a pair of shoes for the longest time.
Other than the quality of leather and hardware, what separates cheaper belts from quality belts? Is there a difference between a $100 Allen Edmonds belt and leather belt costing $200+? I'm looking to match my Cobbler Union Museum Cognac cap toes and I'm wondering if $180 is worth it.
Hello Kirby. I noticed you would preferably use Saphir's mink oil based leather lotion for leather garments over the Saphir Renovateur that you use to condition leather shoes. Is there any significant difference between the two ? Or is Saphir's mink oil also great to condition leather shoes ?
Hey Kirby. I have a really old ww2 Sam brown army belt. Its a great sand light brown colour which I don't want to darken. The leather is stiff and it has some dark spots. Can I use the same routine for the thick leather of the army belt? How do I remove the dark (almost black) spots? How do I protect against water marks? Thanks a lot Kirby!
Yes. You could absolutely use this routine. Dark spots are hard to remove... it really depends on what caused the dark spot. If it's an oil stain, there is really nothing you can do to remove it. Best bet is to try to darken the entire leather belt and to blend.
Dear Mr Allison, Most of good belts are multi-layers. Is it necessary to condition a "dark side" of such belt to avoid lack of elasticity? I use an Arthur Barker belts from London, all they are 3-layers.
Hello, I have a question, what is the difference between Saphir Medaille d'Or and Saphir Beauté du Cuir products. I see both brands sell some similar items. For example, both have a Pate de Luxe and a crème pommadier. Are this different quality or they are just targeted to different leather products?? Cheers
The Saphir Beauty Cuir (SBC, as I call it, or their standard blue label), is a good polish. It is definitely better than all of other polishes we used in this video. It contains high-quality waxes and uses natural solvents. However, the difference between the SBC and the MDO is in quality, concentration, and variety of waxes, ingredients. Saphir Medaille d'Or contains a different and higher concentration of hard and soft waxes, which is why you get an easier, higher shine than in the Beauty Cuir. It also contains a higher concentration and quality of pigments, which produces better recoloring and restoration of the finish. And there is a "huge difference" in the waxes you are using in the Saphir Pommadier MDO vs. SBC. The Saphir SBC uses almond oil vs the shea butter in the Medaille d’Or. Combined with the unique combination of the other waxes, the Saphir Medaille d'Or is a much better nourishing polish and produces a higher-quality, longer-lasting shine. Lower quantity of beeswax in the Medaille d’Or vs. vegetable saxes, which produce better nourishing. MDO contains carnuba wax (I'm spelling this incorrectly), which is a harder wax that produces a higher shine. Tons of differences... is the Saphir Beauty Cuir good? Yes. Is it better than the Saphir Medaille d'Or? No.
Why is there a need to use different colour pigment products, such as Saphir Canadian Restorative Cream and Saphir Pommadier Cream Shoe Polish, for large leather goods and leather shoes?
The Saphir Canadian is designed for application on larger leather goods and contains a higher concentration of hard beeswax to prevent the pigment from potentially rubbing off onto clothing. This is a risk if you use shoe polish. It is less permanent.
You have a lot of shoe videos... how about style of belts color match to shoes! What styles and colors are ok with your shoe choice, and where do you get belts that are truly leather and last a lifetime.
Thank you for sharing always sharing the details. It always comes down to details even when it seems unnecessary, it's most needed! Thank you again, bringing gentleman's ware to higher standards.
-N
the saphir pommadier works for me too, the other day I gave a brother of mine a "new" black belt by applying the pommadier onto the leather which was gray already, the final result was impressive.
The Saphir Pommadier Cream Polish can certainly be used... we've used it in some old tutorials. But the Canadian is better for this purpose and doesn't have the same risk of rubbing off on clothing as the Pommadier Cream Polish.
Thanks, Kirby. Do you need to condition the reverse (waist side) of the belt?
yes you should. Often the belt consists of 2 layers of leather, a colored one and a neutral leather color. There is glue in between and ofcourse they are stitched together from the sides. You should just use a mink oil product to condition the lower layer aswell. You can check the layers very easily by making an extra hole to the belt. You can see the layers from the small piece that comes off or just by looking at the holes.
Great video, as always, Kirby. I have a question, what would be the best way to store belts in a wardrobe? Rolled up in a drawer or hanging? What’s your input?
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Classique I hang mine on one of our belt hangers. Belts don’t roll well - generally they are too stiff. Better and easier to hang.
Was going to ask the same thing, thanks
I like your name lol
Very cool. I made a lemon oil tallow mix on the stove, after repeated cleaning of the beef fat, for my leather jacket. The tallow mix lasted a year and a half before souring. My jaxket looks great. I will try some of your products.
Hi Kirby! Thanks for the video! Was wondering do i need to condition the reverse side (the “fleshy”side) as well?
Thanks for the informative video. Do you condition both sides of the belt?
Would the Saphir Renovateur and Cream Polish (like that used for shoes), work in a pinch? Also, would it be recommended to condition both sides of a belt?
Kirby, Great video. Thank you for addressing this area.
Learned a lot on this one. Thanks
Could the Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovator do the same job as these two products?
Hi Kirby, I have have been following The Hanger Project TH-cam channel since it started. I personally would never wear a belt on a bespoke trouser, because if you wear a belt the trouser will slide down ever so slightly. If I had to choose, I would stick to suspenders, because they will keep trousers of the same length all day. My question is: Do you think a well-dressed man should invest in a quality belt if they wear a bespoke trouser?
Beement No... I honestly haven’t worn a belt with trousers since college. All of my trousers are tabbed. I’m having some cut for braces now.
These Allen Edmund belts were just for the video.
First I’m a new subscriber, second I have a reversible belt of different colors how would I go about conditioning both sides?
Do each side individually and then makes ure you. brush it well to prevent any polish from rubbing off on your waistbands.
What are your thoughts about ratcheting AKA microadjustment belts?
I have a question! Can you do a video about waterproofing and winterizing dress shoes that may or may not include recovering salt stains?!
Enjoyed this video. What juvicuir color would work best for a light brown to tan ostrich belt with some deep cracks? Thanks.
Hello Kirby
Always enjoy your videos keep up good work.
I have leather luggage how would you recommend to take care of leather luggage
Kirby, what do you advise on white leather belts? Shall we use saddle soap to clean in case of heavy impurities?
Hi Kirby, love your videos. Can you refer to shoe/belt color coordination? how exact do they have to be? Sometimes it is difficult for me to find a belt that is the same color as my shoes.
Appreciate your advise
What would you choose to condition the unlined interior of a tanned cowhide belt, which I have experienced drying out and becoming rough and more open celled?
Many thanks for posting, I hope one video for leather jacket
Hello Kirby - great video as always. Random question: is your wedding ring by Buccellati or custom jeweler? It’s really great!
The level nerdiness, materialism, and narcissism combined here is unparalleled
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What?! The fffff?!? 😂😂😂
Hi Kirby. I assume your chamois are reusable? How does one maintain them so they can be safely reused many times?
Simply wash them by hand with light detergent... all that's needed.
@@kirbyallison Great. Thank you. Easy enough.
Hello Kirby, nice video as usual. Do you have special tip for snake belt ?
rémi Heuqueville Substitute the Saphir Reptan for the Saphir Leather Lotion for conditioning. Everything else the same
Quick question. Just before the instructional portion starts (after you say "today we will be conditioning one of our...") there is a close up of 4 belts. Just wondering where the picture was obtained as the maroon grain belt really caught my eye. Been trying to look for a similar one to match a pair of shoes for the longest time.
Luqman Hakim Ilham Unfortunately the belt used was from my personal collection.
Other than the quality of leather and hardware, what separates cheaper belts from quality belts? Is there a difference between a $100 Allen Edmonds belt and leather belt costing $200+? I'm looking to match my Cobbler Union Museum Cognac cap toes and I'm wondering if $180 is worth it.
What about storing an exotic skin belt like ostrich? Is it okay to just hang it up or does it need something special for it last?
Can I use the saphir renovateur instead?
Can you provide a link to the shirt you are wearing?
Hello Kirby. I noticed you would preferably use Saphir's mink oil based leather lotion for leather garments over the Saphir Renovateur that you use to condition leather shoes. Is there any significant difference between the two ? Or is Saphir's mink oil also great to condition leather shoes ?
Flo Gau I use the Renovateur to condition my crocodile belt.
It is less thick than renovateur.
I have the same question
Hey Kirby. I have a really old ww2 Sam brown army belt. Its a great sand light brown colour which I don't want to darken. The leather is stiff and it has some dark spots. Can I use the same routine for the thick leather of the army belt? How do I remove the dark (almost black) spots? How do I protect against water marks? Thanks a lot Kirby!
Yes. You could absolutely use this routine. Dark spots are hard to remove... it really depends on what caused the dark spot. If it's an oil stain, there is really nothing you can do to remove it. Best bet is to try to darken the entire leather belt and to blend.
The Hanger Project I think I'll live with them. I prefer to not darken the whole belt. I love the light colour.
Dear Mr Allison,
Most of good belts are multi-layers. Is it necessary to condition a "dark side" of such belt to avoid lack of elasticity?
I use an Arthur Barker belts from London, all they are 3-layers.
Just use a general neutral conditioner on the back side if you want, to keep it supple.
I have a belt made of bison leather and one of crocodile. What Saphir products would you recommend for those types of leathers?
Hello, I have a question, what is the difference between Saphir Medaille d'Or and Saphir Beauté du Cuir products. I see both brands sell some similar items. For example, both have a Pate de Luxe and a crème pommadier. Are this different quality or they are just targeted to different leather products?? Cheers
The Saphir Beauty Cuir (SBC, as I call it, or their standard blue label), is a good polish. It is definitely better than all of other polishes we used in this video. It contains high-quality waxes and uses natural solvents. However, the difference between the SBC and the MDO is in quality, concentration, and variety of waxes, ingredients.
Saphir Medaille d'Or contains a different and higher concentration of hard and soft waxes, which is why you get an easier, higher shine than in the Beauty Cuir. It also contains a higher concentration and quality of pigments, which produces better recoloring and restoration of the finish.
And there is a "huge difference" in the waxes you are using in the Saphir Pommadier MDO vs. SBC. The Saphir SBC uses almond oil vs the shea butter in the Medaille d’Or. Combined with the unique combination of the other waxes, the Saphir Medaille d'Or is a much better nourishing polish and produces a higher-quality, longer-lasting shine.
Lower quantity of beeswax in the Medaille d’Or vs. vegetable saxes, which produce better nourishing. MDO contains carnuba wax (I'm spelling this incorrectly), which is a harder wax that produces a higher shine.
Tons of differences... is the Saphir Beauty Cuir good? Yes. Is it better than the Saphir Medaille d'Or? No.
Hi kirby just wondering if its ok to use the saphir renovetaur for the belt
What's the main difference between horse hair and pig hair bristles, is it just that pig bristles are stiffer and better for buffing then?
Justin Tran Just stiffness.
Can you mirror shine a belt?
What’s the difference between the Saphir Canadian cream and Saphir cream polish?
Why is there a need to use different colour pigment products, such as Saphir Canadian Restorative Cream and Saphir Pommadier Cream Shoe Polish, for large leather goods and leather shoes?
The Saphir Canadian is designed for application on larger leather goods and contains a higher concentration of hard beeswax to prevent the pigment from potentially rubbing off onto clothing. This is a risk if you use shoe polish. It is less permanent.
Does the saphir Canadian vetements cream have colours that rub off on your pants?
Jo Co If you apply sparingly and buff it well, it shouldn’t rub off.
Why can’t I find Saphir leather lotion anywhere 😭
You have a lot of shoe videos... how about style of belts color match to shoes! What styles and colors are ok with your shoe choice, and where do you get belts that are truly leather and last a lifetime.
Would you, like with shoes, condition a new belt before use?
I had a brown Gucci belt what I use to polish leather of my belt
how about an entire video devoted to leather jackets?
I could hear this guy screaming in the distance, as I did this to my belt with Nivea creme .____.
Allen Edmonds belt - why not the Allen Edmonds polish?
Ben Foust its just not anywhere as good. I used to use ae polish until I realized how much better sapphir is. You will not go back
Product placement.. sigh. Pity.
I always condition my belts with Kiwi super cheap quality it's ok at least I don't have to spend $20 -30 dollars
You look SWELL
ugh are u selling saphir???? come on tell us wax, lotion, etc......