Abo Flint Knapping. Antler & stone tools. Tips, tricks, and how to
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- In this video Ryan Gill walks through using Abo (antler and stone) tools to flint knap.
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I've been breaking nice points for 30 years and you sir, have the knack for knapping! I do both coper and abo and like both styles equally. Keep up the great work and I love your videos. And video length is never a problem. The more you see the more you learn. Thanks, Ryan.
This is my third video you have made I am watching. I love what you are doing. I started when I was 13. I am 35 and dusty. My last experience was about 2004 2005. This makes me want to do it again.
Beside my self teaching I got to hang out with a curator named Corky Willis for a day when I was 13-14. Beside my self taught and lessons from him you got something going on. I love it.
I miss Texas, were flint is at foot all day. I need to buy my stone in illinois.
very glad to hear it. thanks very much for following along and best of luck rekindling your knapping
Really love the knife, beautiful little piece! I always have trouble finding videos of larger pieces being knapped
thanks very much, I will keep that in mind and work on another larger piece soon!
right! this was a large piece in the beginning! but i guess a sculptor need a piece big enough to compensate for their largest dimensions!
Great job! I just started napping and it's extremely frustrating using antlers but I refuse to use copper tools. Keeping it 100% primitive is like rediscovering a lost art
I just got the abo kit I ordered from your store. It's my first kit but looks perfect. Thankyou for getting me started on this!
thanks very much and best of luck on your knapping journey!
Great video, Ryan. Looking forward to trying this abo technique with some of your chert. Always appreciate the information you provide.
Got your order in, thanks very much and thanks for all the support and following along
@@huntprimitive9918 when i pressure flake with antler it wear kindof fast is that suppose to happen.
@@dariuswhite2543 yes, that is pretty common. Antler wears down fairly quickly
The videos are never to long I've watched them sometimes multiple times
Thanks for another great video Ryan. I may have to take a saw to one of my billets and give your short billet method a try. Take care, Dean
I think you will really like it, and thanks very much for the support and following along
I make things like spears and knives and such and many folks like my work, but I always tell them, "If you wanna see a real master then watch Ryan Gill." Seriously man you are a master craftsman and I as a fellow craftsman can only hope to achieve your level of skill. Much respect. Keep up the good work.
Really appreciate the antler and stone tutorial, I'm just getting started on my knapping journey and geared with some antler, a hammer stone, van port flint and some Obsidian but have had no mentor until now, looking forward to more traditional knapping videos in the future and if possible could you do a video on van port flint as well? It's been a bit tricky for me since I haven't found the "purest" yet only been able to source deposits with quartz veins (mostly thin) but still problematic as heck.
Wonderful video! So glad to see you using organic aboriginal tools. Long before & after copper this was the way it was done. This is the way you learn the use of bone, stone, antler, wood, hoof, horn & ivory. This is educational research at it's finest. Keep up the good work! 👍
A local source for antler may be pet stores like Petco or PetSmart. The usuall have antler tips over in the dog section. Apparently, they are a chew snack for dogs.
Fantastic, thank you for your time and your help to educate. You are so informative and do wonderful job at it. I want to learn and take this art up!
I'm 12 minutes in and you're talking about density of antler... from my working with deer, elk and moose; the density directly relates to the stage of life you get the antler. When you kill an animal that has antlers the antler is still alive, though, it has a hard shell, the interior still has remnants of micro blood vessels which result in a soft interior. Working with dropped or found (whichever you wish to call it) the animal has completely closed off all the living tissue and it hardens creating a denser packed protein layer. The longer you wait the harder it gets. You are absolutely correct that moose is denser than elk, elk denser than deer (though I haven't worked with the deer antler you have there), wandering around in the early spring on elk trails nets some intense close to ivory material to work with and it needs to season for a couple of years to get to the point where it'll hold a high shine (I use it mostly for knife handles, though lately getting creative with guitar nuts, bridges, saddles and tail pieces that are turning out beautiful. I just went out to the shop and made some tools for knapping so I'll let you get on with teaching me how to use them. thanks!
I’m at a disadvantage because I started with copper and now trying to learn abo. Whole different ballgame. Luckily I have all the antler I’ll ever need. I’ll try the stubby billet, I was having the same problem with the longer billet. Probably helps with accuracy also. I’ve heard that your not supposed to abrade as much as you do with copper. Opinion?
@Chuck Henry I'm dealing with the same problem. But I'm practicing with my abo tools almost daily given the plentiful time on my hands (thanks Covid 19). Here's what I'm learning that maybe could help you
Use the longer antler tines to set up the right platforms, take your time to really analyze the piece (be strategic with your knapping), look at people like Ryan and watch their techniques. Most important tip: Be patient and practice, practice, practice. 👍
You should do another buffalo hunt and use a clovis type point.
We have some cool stuff in the works for the future...lol just you wait..lol
One video I watched like six times
i love your videos a lot. you have a lot about primitive hunting and i hope one day i can make a primitive bow and arow and hunt with it. i also have a youtube channel about primitive stuff and more but I only have 4 subscribers
thanks very much and keep after it. If you keep doing it you can certainly obtain that dream!
right before you said, alright guys! I bi-faced this one out were all good here!, i was like damn that looks good just chip it serrated now! haha, now i get to see how you clean it up even more!. This is an amazing learning opportunity! I would have left it at that exact spot! Thank you Hunt Primitive! Now i know there is an old 400,000 year of age volcano near me, maybe I can get some decent stones from the residents who live there now or the trail nearby!
47:45
im not cool enough to have a bone in my beer HAHA! but i did make a slingshot out of some deer antlers today. funny huh. Ill show ya if ya want, its pretty dang cool. 50:36
53:11 its interesting because i thought you'd like the bulbous keep the bulbous part as a nice broad-head on a projectile. you chose to make a knife out if. maybe, like you said you have enough projectiles with the almost "inherit" broad-head aspect, so maybe it was a personal choice but if i was aiming for a good projectile point id be good keeping the bulbous part even though its not ~even~ per say?
what happened to the patreon? im not sure i understand it but i cant find the "casted" tips. I dont necessarily want to pay anything re-ocurring. but if you had a link to some detailed work with some of these historical casts id love to check it out!
now thats a knife... beautiful.
nice work thank u
Good stuff
I want to make a bow
I want you to make a bow
me too!!!
All Lithic Industries can be done in this fashion. One has just got to understand the disposition of these organic tools along with the stone being worked. Well done. Thank you.
I have seen shorts and Long's . I'm watching to learn more about flint napping. Good information from you im going to get started soon
If you would pull the flake with your fingers you can control the direction. If you hold the high ridges with some pressure while pulling backwards you can pull more flint with smaller platforms, for wider and bigger area pull with 2 fingers. To set the flake push your finger forward on the flake you want to remove then pull backwards then strike platform, this helps you remove stacks and helps you from creating them, just a little tip.
Can you use a tooth or a boar tusk as a tip for your indirect tool? Boar tusks are hollow for the most part but the tip is very solid.
?.. id like to know this as well?
Do me a favour and change the title Abo to Aboriginal...... Saying Abo is racist term to us aboriginal people/koorie peoples
Wow your stone knives are a quarter the price I thought they'd be
Just today I started knapping stones, took me a while, I feel like everyone should try this early in life but I just picked up two stones that flake sorta okay to practice on ^^
Great videos. I'm going through everything you have. Are you in Florida and do you have classes?
If possible, you can record a video teaching how to make the bowstring with alternative materials, I found the video of you teaching how to make the rope with rawhide interesting, but if it is possible to teach with other subjects, I am grateful. A hug from Brazilians 🇧🇷
pretty sure he has a video on that already..
That turned into a beauty 👊🇺🇸
thanks very much
how long does it take to go from newb to making decent looking functional stone tips typically?
Want to buy something in your store. Doesnt work to ship to germany.
Do you just sell in US ?
Never ever bored!
Thanks you so much for this. You’ve peaked my interest 🙌🏼
Piqued.
Bone in beer, primitive af grunt grunt!
@HuntPrimitive So in your opinion, would it be better to start Flint knapping with Abo tools or do you think that starting with copper tools would be better? I'm still new at Flint knapping and I want to know.
Easier therefore faster to use copper. Plus it's a cheaper investment.
What are the castings made of?
To buy the boar skinning knife with bone scoring boulster section.
At 29:36 I realized, it makes a different sound when you drive a good one!
Edit: I’ve also noticed that every time you give her a knock, you say, “Oh, that worked out perfectly.” 😂 Well done, brudda!
Ryan, wonderful video. Well explained. I have been knapping abo 33 years. When I teach my students I us alot of the same techniques you do. Thank you for sharing your knowledge .
Watching the abo video now, thinking about the antler I have available. I'm thinking about the porosity issue on elk antler and I guess it would be a major cheat but what if the piece was stabilized in a vacuum tank and cactus juice? Should at least make a pressure flaker last longer
I wonder if you could use the elk ivory teeth for that system you are describing. Elk have two primitive tusk teeth that are ivory
I have a set from an elk I harvested in Colorado
I was thinking, FINALLY a valid use for them
Will make a nice indirect tool
Mate please don’t say abbo it’s Considered very Racist it’s like saying nigga it is aboriginal not abbo my mum Is part aboriginal
Ha, ha, ha!😂
I see what you did there.
(But REALLY you’re a man.👍🏻)
Nice. I have been abo knapping for 28 years but your never to old to learn something from new from someone with a different strategy.
I just wish I could afford this stuff
God bless thanks for a great teach
Did you already make a video of you sitting and doing indirect?
Just rewatched this video you said future video
The true craftsman is able to correct, alter, modify, any situation that may develop during the creation of a product.
Can brass be used instead of copper
Where are your hunting place
Is there anyway you could give us a video of making our own primitive tattoos? I want so bad to give myself a primitive tattoo.
Meanwhile I am hunthing cats in my backyard:)
Edit: they are kinda wild and kill a lot of chickens :)
I apologize if this is a dumb question but could you use one of those antlers they sell for dogs?
Yes just choose the right one
Dang I wanted to see you flute! I got a gnarly flute ther other day... just one though lol
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Hello me people Vietnam.
@@kentuckyartifacts4276 hihi 😂😂
Awesome video. Great info. Thank you
Ryan, yes inspiring and educating is much appreciated. people i talk to say i have to travel like an hour to get to flint. aAfter watching a few videos, I walked up the creek n found some possible rocks n quartzite.
I then heat treated on the wrong day, built fire pit added sand started fire, removed coal n wood placed rocks around n covered again with sand. I was suppose to cook 5 hours n let cool two days, after 3 hours it started raining.
some of rocks and some parts are heat treated, n I moved up a level. I used to just hit the rock, n producing a flake was amazing feeling. Like an accomplishment. After heat treating n few more videos i was able to shape the rock. to give me a good flake where i wanted it, That was frikken amazing, skill with hammer stones n tine bopper are my friend right now, i am beginning to try indirect percussion and pressure flaking. to shape.
This center line of the rock. people talk about n can’t do something after u have one, knapping is like chess your looking at edges to remove to make a better platform. three moves ahead
chi miigwetch
If you have a critical flake you need to take off, make a guide flake on each side of your platform, that way the energy doesn’t fan out which causes you to lose the energy needed to travel to the area you need to remove. Old knapper tip.
Can quartz be on par with flint when it comes to blades or points? It’s really the only stone I’ve worked with because I can’t find flint or obsidian.
Quartz is really tough stuff to work. there are examples of some very fine quartz pieces, but overall, it's very difficult to make do what you want it to do
Can I use tools made from just wood?
Flint quarantine knapping time.
Pro tip for new guys BUY BANDAIDS buy like $25-40 worth I promise you will nick your hands fingers knuckles. You’ll look like you turn wrenches for a living. Also research your locale geology. Sourcing local rock is half the fun.
Do you know where I can find Flint or Flint like material in Australia (I know you’re not Australian but I was wondering if you heard something or someone else and knew)
Electronic Freak flint and chert can usually form in nodules occurring inside limestone
Jacob Buxton thanks I think I know where I can find that
Electronic Freak - Source mookaite jasper, absolutely beautiful stone and the quality stuff is highly prized by knappers.
bones&stones 65 thing with Australia in central Australia in New South Wales we don’t really have many rock outcrop things that aren’t ancient volcanic rock and I don’t think volcanic rock has anything good for napping because it’s porous
Toilets and glass. ☺
nice fish scraper
Have you tried wild boar tusks
They work as well
Why not use “native knapping” instead of “abo? It sound better to me.
Your feelings and conditioning have gotten in the way of science. Native is not proper. Aboriginal is different.
aboriginal is a world wide definition, "native" when used here in America has a native american connotation and some Native Americans are losing their shit right now saying I am stealing their culture. So if I say abo, it offends australians, if I say native, it offends indians, the moral of the story is, people are too easily offended over words these days...lol so I just call it what I want, and "abo knapping" is a widely accepted and understood term in flintknapping.
most native americans use their specific tribes name to describe themselves. When descibing all abo Americans they use the term Indians. Its the libs and snowflakes who try to change everyones word choices.
JJ
Is elm a good wood for a bow ?
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man you know you hunt a lot when you are worried more about wearing out your hammerstone than you are about wearing out your antler... For me hammerstones were plentiful since i would always go picking them up, but antlers were incredibly valuable since they are so expensive to purchase and I don't hunt.
Do point
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What a racist title
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