Thank you for nice straightforward, real-world reviews. My guess on the ability to disable wireless charging: If your phone doesn't need charging while you drive, but that's where you always put your phone when driving, then at least you get a few more yards of range by sparing the car's battery?
Ouch, all that wasted space under the hood hurts my soul! Love the capability of the Kona Electric but the nods to an ICE retrofit are unsettling. Thanks for showing all sides of the car - the good, the bad, and the quirky - in this series of videos.
Kona was designed as an EV with the potential for ICE models to follow. Problems with Chinese supply batteries (whether they still use these or not I don’t know) meant the ICE models hit the road first...
Hi from Ireland. I am aTesla. model three reservationist and have been since the 31st of April 2016. The configurator for the right-hand drive M3 has only recently opened up and I have configured and placed my order. Hoping to get delivery very soon. Anyway in this video you asked What would be a good reason for not using the wireless charging. I currently have Hyundai Ioniq which as I’m sure you are aware a lot of the tech that’s in the Kona was first introduced in the Ioniq. Anyway one day while on a road trip I was charging my iPhone X in the wireless charger driving along minding my own business enjoying the scenery and just totally relaxed and having fun on the road trip. When all of a sudden the large 8 inch screen displayed all in red battery overheating warning. Which frightened the living SH I T out of me!! As you know the Hyundai Electric vehicles all have Apple CarPlay. In order to use Apple CarPlay you have to plug in the USB cable into your iPhone. So I always keep my phone in the wireless charging pocket with the USB cable connected to the iPhone which meant my iPhone was being charged boat from the wireless charger and from the USB cable. When I got the large red warning on the 8 inch infotainment screen I automatically assume that as I think many others would have that it was the traction battery for the car that was overheating never dawned on me that it was the battery in the iPhone that was actually overheating. I have never used the wireless charging dock since. That’s got to be a dam good reason as to why you should not use it. On another point I have to tell you I totally enjoy your videos as I have recently subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work. Goodbye from Ireland for now. Regards Séamus
I know this is a LONG time later - but Apple replaced my iPhone X THREE times due to battery overheats/failure over the two or maybe three years I used it. The last one was Ok (I still have it). Replaced with a 13 pro with no probs. In Australia they have to give a new warranty time - so that was good. I have a 2023MY Kona and it’s great - although I’ve only done about 1500km…
Thanks! That was great! The cell phone charging feature can be disengaged if you want to store coins there...or some other metallic things. I go back and forth on using it: sometimes I just want to throw my non-sunglasses there b/c they have metal screws in them and I don't want to start a problem (fire?). I've used the cell phone inductive charging about 10 times in 19 months...
I believe the option to turn off wireless charging is to ensure we can place the phone on the wireless pad while android auto or apple car play is running (which needs a physical wired connection and will charge the phone as well). You probably do not want to charge the phone both via cable and wireless charging at the same time. I may be wrong here but I haven't tried charging a phone hardwired while placing it on a active wireless charging pad.
It is ev small SUV. I drive this Kona mainly in ecodrive and with adaptive cruisecontrole on. if you drive it as a sports car, the wheels will spin. Sportmode is fun to try, but not very comfortable to drive. You feel every movement in your feet in de speed. For me it is a great car with an impressive range!
I've had a Kona Electric 2022 model in Australia for a few weeks clocking up about 800 klm - despite putting my foot down fairly hard on dry and wet roads I have never spun the front wheels perhaps because the car came as standard with very good grip tyres- Micheline Primacy. I understand early Kona Electric vehicles game with very poor grip Nexen tyres hence poor handling and wheel spinning/ The Micheline tyres provide a huge improvement in handling, breaking but come with shorter tyre life - personally I'll choose safe tyres every time. As an aside, "her in doors" and I love our Kona and because we very rarely do more than 30 K a day - we most days plug in at our garage standard home power point (240 V AC - 1.7 Kw H) and are recharged in 2 or 3 hours free from our roof top solar voltaic on our roof - life is good.
Thanks for the videos! I read in the users' manual NOT to put coins in the wireless charging area, as it's a fire risk. I'd be sure the reason for the 'turn off' option is because old habits from new owners: that charging area seems like the best place to throw change after the toll booth or drive thru! Question: Would wider aftermarket front tires help traction?
Didn't know about the trick for making the sunroof open 100 by lowering the back windows. Very cool. Also to any new blue link users , just figured this out myself. Even though the app might send you a climate start failed message, the reality is the climate start feature does work. I tested it out today, the vehicle receives the request and the system turns on in about 5 seconds.
Thanks for sharing this video! I can see an interesting difference to my Kona (2019, premium) at 10:35 - there is no "flexible" cupholder in my car, which is very annoying. Did you change the cupholder or is this the original one?
I know this is an old video- but I just bought a used 2021 electric Kona Ultimate- and I wanted to say that I disabled the charging pad because of a couple heat related issues- my phone has a thick case, idealy you want a touhc charge to not have the extra padding between the charing areas- also that little compartment for the phone is not well ventilated (something thats been addressed on newer models) ALSO I really like putting my phone there, but I tend to plug my phone in to the USB for android auto - but ot keep the ledge from putting pressure on the base of the cable I put a small item behind my phone so the base of my phone sticks up a little and takes the pressure off the usb cable... all three of these reasons, I have disabled the charging pad- but I do like ot use the spot for my phone- nowhere else felt right- and theres not a lot of room in an area I like to use a phone mount (a slight downside to having the 12.5inch media screen I guess.
I presume the ability to charge to a max. of 10%, is a throwback to shipping & delivery transport. So the vehicle is kept and transported with a minimal charge and it’s not taxing, to decide what % to charge the vehicle to at the point of leaving the factory. And also, the vehicles are not being transport with fully charged packs, plus Hyundai aren’t paying for excess electricity they’ll never use.
I shut off the wireless phone charger after I noticed my wallet got really hot in there on top of it...could it possibly be cause of a chip-credit card? Not sure but I use a corded rapid charger for my phone anyway. I LOVE my Kona Electric. Im at about 5500 miles since early May. Left my Civic hatchback sport in the gassy dust 😉
Great video with a ton of info! Is the level 1 charger included a normal 120 V plug?. My garage has GFI outlets that DON"T have the T shaped slot indicating that the 120-volt receptacle is rated for 20-amps. Regular wall receptacles with a pair of vertical slots are rated for only 15-amps. Would this level 1 Hyundai charger for the Kona on my 15 amp circuit?
The Level 1 charge cord that comes with the Kona lets you select the maximum amperage. The default is 12A, but you can lower it to 10A or 8A. A 15A receptacle *should* be able to handle 12A continuous, but with residential wiring I would strongly recommend setting it to 10A.
2:03 IDK how I feel about how that looks. It looks like they were trying hard to make it look like an ICE with that cover. Why not take the opportunity to distinguish the EV with something different?
THAT is the advantage of front-wheel-drive for an EV : regen. It's one reason it regens better than those rear-wheel-drive EVs. The weight transfer on braking makes the regen much more efficient. So that FWD EV feature has a good reason.
How much more efficient? is the regen in front-wheel-drive vs rear-wheel-drive? since Tesla and BMW have rear wheel drive BEVs on the market and they have high efficiency....even if what you say is true? it's not a major factor... is it? show us the studies?
@@nc3826 I know of no studies, fair enough. But there was a very good reason that many cars with "mixed" brakes put the discs in front and the drums in back. Due to weight transfers, that's where you need the most braking power. Even now with four-wheel discs, the fronts are invariably larger. The fronts do most of the braking. That is where the braking energy is. If you want to recover that energy, you go where the energy is. Tesla and BMW have among the most efficient motors and body designs (CDA counts a good deal). And if I am not mistaken, aren't the Dual Motor Teslas more efficient on range than the RWD ones on a given battery size? Could that not be due to the existence of the generator/motor in the front, perhaps? Evidence, maybe, of what I am claiming?
@@drmcallis Ofc most Dual Motor EVs should be more efficient at regen braking since there is greater contact area to for regen vs RWD versions (BTW they use 2 different types of motors so that skewes the results) ... And while the physics of "weight transfers" decreases the adhesion and there for the theoretical maximum braking force that can be applied to the rear wheels vs the front wheels..So historical it has been easier to just use larger brakes on the front of non regen ICE cars. But braking with the rear wheels is much more stable than the front wheels. So in the real world it's much easier to safely apply the braking force to the rear wheels and only use the front wheels in hard stopping emergency situation. Conversely rear wheel braking is always advisable when the front brakes are applied to maintain stability. So based on the trade off a well designed rear wheel drive EV should have regen capabilities that surpass a front wheel drive EV in most situations. But its would be hard to find a way to have an apples to apples comparison? If you have ever ridden a bike you should be familiar with the braking dynamics since the front and rear brake are applied individually unlike in a car. Most ppl wear out the rear brake 1st on bike since its easier to control. BTW anecdotally the fact that the Kona EV FWD and the Tesla RWD both have high efficient for an EV it seems doubtful the debates we are having is very relevant anyway? thx for your input...
When its on 3rd level and uses motor power to stop, brake lights are on! That is actually what annoyes me a little because driver behind me who knows nothing about EV probably think that I am very nervous pressing brake all the time, when I actually just release gas pedal.
6:18 why is that? I've had several different people all saying different things on this topic. Some people say it doesn't matter if you drive it to near-empty and charge it to 100% all the time, while others say you should keep it between 20 and 80% as much as possible. Even my dealer said it's no problem to just charge it to 100% and drive it to near-empty. Very confusing. The actual battery of the car is bigger than advertised/used, right? So it would never literally get to 100% if you would charge it that far.
On an EV is there a percentage of the battery to charge up to to extend battery life? Is it better to keep the battery charged between certain numbers for extended battery life?
Did you notice any range changes once you were in hot Southwest Florida? I'm considering getting a Kona up north and road tripping it to my home in Fort Myers.
No, if anything it was a bit better. The car does very well in the heat as the AC system draws a minimal amount of energy when compared to the heating system
@@OutofSpecMotoring How is the red color? I was leaning toward the Gray but if I want one on the south side of Washington DC with black interior red is a runner up. Also white, blue, black, silver. All the grays have the pebble blue interior.
@@OutofSpecMotoring On videos I have a hard time noting the colors. Is yours Gray with black interior? Was your prefered light interior not available? I'm used to dealers selling cars below MSRP but no luck. I was considering the ultimate for the adaptive cruise as our Subaru Forester has ruined me. Once the taxes and freight are added it's just a bit too much to justifly. Strongly leaning Limited now.
Nice review. You do really need to live with a car for a while to notice everything. One-day journalist reviews aren't actually that useful. My question is does it have to be plugged in in order to turn on climate control from the phone app? My Kia Soul EV did need to be plugged in, which was annoying. The Leaf doesn't.
The car has a utility mode, where accessories are powered by the drive battery. So yes. You can have the AC or heating on while sleeping in the back, and yes, you can fit in the back with the seats down and forward.
Kyle. Today /17/2020 I test drove a 2019 Kona limited... the power on acceleration did not seem impressive and a very strange, albeit dangerous thing happened when I ACCELERATED onto a highway and then attempted to pass a bus in the slow lane. The car suddenly lost power and went from the initial 60mph quickly down to 35 mph and stayed there despite pressure on the accelerator!!! I moved over behind the bus and immediately took an exit. The dash lit up with a RED little turtle light and it said that power loss occurred and attempts to continue could damage the electrical system!!! I pulled off onto the shoulder and stopped and the sales agent looked in the manual which described the warning without explanation. It then disappeared and the car was able to be driven on local roads back to the dealership. The range remaining during this episode was about 29 miles. Any ideas? Any similar experiences??? I was not a “happy camper”.
andrew scala 29 miles range (out of 258 miles) works out to ~11% battery capacity! it's the equivalent of letting someone test drive a gas vehicle running on empty. In both cases the sensors are not 100% accurate, and an ev has additional failsafes to prevent damage to the battery and components. So idk what they expected to happen. In the rare case you need to drive on a low charge, you should only use eco or eco+ mode (instead of normal or sport) and being very easy on the accelerator on the way to a power source to charge up. Ever had an RC toy car? When the battery is low you don't have the same power or top speed you had at at a quarter, half or full charge. or comparable to a smartphone going into an emergency low battery saver mode slowing everything down at 10% or 15% to better your chances at the battery not dying completely.
@@OutofSpecMotoring Even on the Ultimate trim? That's too bad - I get used to it in my current car as otherwise my wife and I can never find a temperature that is comfortable for both of us.
The Porsche 911 is rear engine rear wheel drive. It has great traction for acceleration in the snow and other slippery conditions due to the weight over the rear wheels.
@@OutofSpecMotoring FYI-Will the (rear wheel drive) Corvair Kill You? th-cam.com/video/NI9Hq0_Mhy0/w-d-xo.html Front wheels also has great traction in the snow or other slippery conditions due to the weight being over the wheels...and is far more stable than rear wheel drive... So maybe that's why the Kona is front wheel drive??? Most ppl dont need a race car just a safe car.... Just a thought you maybe a little biased on this subject? We all know there are trade offs, you should be more open and honest about them in the future Sir....
@@nc3826 I've had front wheel drive on my last cars, and I drive in Utah winters... lots of snow and ice. Honestly, I'll take front wheel drive over rear wheel drive any day for winter driving.
Out of Spec Motoring Was there a light source shining on the headlights in the front view? That could reflect off the headlights and be picked up by the camera. I have noticed a flickering affect in other videos where tail lights appear to flicker. I think LED lights may flicker at a rate that is too fast for the human eye to detect but a camera using a certain frame rate will pickup the flashes and blanks creating a strobe-like affect in a video.
FWD is so much better than RWD. I don't understand people that actually want RWD, much harder to control, usually the car weights much less in the back, it's just wrong.
electrek.co/2019/07/27/hyundai-kona-ev-explodes-garage-blowing-door-off/ we all know about it and all the Teslas that have done it too...but ICE do it too..if ur really a neighbor there lot more common dangers to deal with...
Very informative, but the truth is it could have had a frunk...Frunk Hyundai Kona EV th-cam.com/video/0GRvSRlqtbc/w-d-xo.html So ppl should stop using the false meme that flexible platforms (ie that can use different power sources) necessarily have a less efficient layout when used as a BEV then BEV only platform... BTW Tesla is able to fit in a frunk... since its been able to reduce the number and size of the parts needed.... so there is more room for a frunk... and it has little to do with the fact it's a BEV only platform...
All my cars have been FWD since 2000. Kwit yor bitchin'! As far as slowing the car, you let cruise control and one pedal driving stop your car. Most of my EV charging planning is done online which is best since most chargers start with smart phone apps. What idiot drives around with a noisy sun roof open?! Auto hold is the best to use. Why didn't you praise the HUD? Makes for safe driving. The horns works and is loud, are you one of those agressive drivers always on their horn? Kwit yor bitchin!
Tesla is superior in every way.. no? hey how about you hit a tree with kona @ 100 miles/h and tell me how osom it is with the ENGINE STUCK IN YOUR RIBCASE. pff 0-60 in 7.6s wtf lol. Model x does this in 3.2s also what about battery degradation? 3 years and replace the battery? in Tesla its 20+ yo
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About 70 to 80% of braking force is done by the front wheels. To have effective regenerative breaking you need front wheel drive.
I have seen many Kona EV videos (and read their user's manual), and some of the quirks you listed were still new to me. Good job!
Thank you for nice straightforward, real-world reviews.
My guess on the ability to disable wireless charging: If your phone doesn't need charging while you drive, but that's where you always put your phone when driving, then at least you get a few more yards of range by sparing the car's battery?
Ouch, all that wasted space under the hood hurts my soul! Love the capability of the Kona Electric but the nods to an ICE retrofit are unsettling.
Thanks for showing all sides of the car - the good, the bad, and the quirky - in this series of videos.
FYI-Frunk Hyundai Kona EV th-cam.com/video/0GRvSRlqtbc/w-d-xo.html
Kona was designed as an EV with the potential for ICE models to follow. Problems with Chinese supply batteries (whether they still use these or not I don’t know) meant the ICE models hit the road first...
It would cost so much more if it were a stand alone EV platform. Sharing the platform with ice and EV reduces costs.
It has an official Frunk. I bought one for mine.
Love my Kona and yea the regen in traffic is amazing !
Hi from Ireland. I am aTesla. model three reservationist and have been since the 31st of April 2016. The configurator for the right-hand drive M3 has only recently opened up and I have configured and placed my order. Hoping to get delivery very soon.
Anyway in this video you asked What would be a good reason for not using the wireless charging. I currently have Hyundai Ioniq which as I’m sure you are aware a lot of the tech that’s in the Kona was first introduced in the Ioniq.
Anyway one day while on a road trip I was charging my iPhone X in the wireless charger driving along minding my own business enjoying the scenery and just totally relaxed and having fun on the road trip. When all of a sudden the large 8 inch screen displayed all in red battery overheating warning. Which frightened the living SH I T out of me!! As you know the Hyundai Electric vehicles all have Apple CarPlay. In order to use Apple CarPlay you have to plug in the USB cable into your iPhone. So I always keep my phone in the wireless charging pocket with the USB cable connected to the iPhone which meant my iPhone was being charged boat from the wireless charger and from the USB cable.
When I got the large red warning on the 8 inch infotainment screen I automatically assume that as I think many others would have that it was the traction battery for the car that was overheating never dawned on me that it was the battery in the iPhone that was actually overheating. I have never used the wireless charging dock since. That’s got to be a dam good reason as to why you should not use it.
On another point I have to tell you I totally enjoy your videos as I have recently subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work. Goodbye from Ireland for now. Regards Séamus
Thanks for the informative comment! We’re glad to have you onboard
I know this is a LONG time later - but Apple replaced my iPhone X THREE times due to battery overheats/failure over the two or maybe three years I used it. The last one was Ok (I still have it). Replaced with a 13 pro with no probs. In Australia they have to give a new warranty time - so that was good. I have a 2023MY Kona and it’s great - although I’ve only done about 1500km…
I saw your update for the 2020 and I'm glad that some of the things you didn't like were corrected. It informed my decision to buy a Kona
Great to hear! And yes, nice improvements to the car overtime
Thanks! That was great!
The cell phone charging feature can be disengaged if you want to store coins there...or some other metallic things.
I go back and forth on using it: sometimes I just want to throw my non-sunglasses there b/c they have metal screws in them and I don't want to start a problem (fire?).
I've used the cell phone inductive charging about 10 times in 19 months...
I believe the option to turn off wireless charging is to ensure we can place the phone on the wireless pad while android auto or apple car play is running (which needs a physical wired connection and will charge the phone as well). You probably do not want to charge the phone both via cable and wireless charging at the same time. I may be wrong here but I haven't tried charging a phone hardwired while placing it on a active wireless charging pad.
It is ev small SUV. I drive this Kona mainly in ecodrive and with adaptive cruisecontrole on. if you drive it as a sports car, the wheels will spin. Sportmode is fun to try, but not very comfortable to drive. You feel every movement in your feet in de speed. For me it is a great car with an impressive range!
I've had a Kona Electric 2022 model in Australia for a few weeks clocking up about 800 klm - despite putting my foot down fairly hard on dry and wet roads I have never spun the front wheels perhaps because the car came as standard with very good grip tyres- Micheline Primacy. I understand early Kona Electric vehicles game with very poor grip Nexen tyres hence poor handling and wheel spinning/ The Micheline tyres provide a huge improvement in handling, breaking but come with shorter tyre life - personally I'll choose safe tyres every time.
As an aside, "her in doors" and I love our Kona and because we very rarely do more than 30 K a day - we most days plug in at our garage standard home power point (240 V AC - 1.7 Kw H) and are recharged in 2 or 3 hours free from our roof top solar voltaic on our roof - life is good.
Great review of the Kona’s weird stuff!
Nice info about oddities of Kona Electric. Cool.
Thanks for the videos!
I read in the users' manual NOT to put coins in the wireless charging area, as it's a fire risk. I'd be sure the reason for the 'turn off' option is because old habits from new owners: that charging area seems like the best place to throw change after the toll booth or drive thru!
Question: Would wider aftermarket front tires help traction?
Traction yes, range no
Didn't know about the trick for making the sunroof open 100 by lowering the back windows. Very cool. Also to any new blue link users , just figured this out myself. Even though the app might send you a climate start failed message, the reality is the climate start feature does work. I tested it out today, the vehicle receives the request and the system turns on in about 5 seconds.
Thanks for sharing this video! I can see an interesting difference to my Kona (2019, premium) at 10:35 - there is no "flexible" cupholder in my car, which is very annoying. Did you change the cupholder or is this the original one?
Funny how language evolves. I've never heard anyone use the word "stout" like this before. How did that come about?
2:10 Looks like he missed the hood support feature... Just kidding. Great review and exposé of the car's features. Thanks for uploading.
you can fit a 24 inch dishwasher in the box in the back with the seats down. just barely vertically. plenty of room depth and width wise. just FYI
I know this is an old video- but I just bought a used 2021 electric Kona Ultimate- and I wanted to say that I disabled the charging pad because of a couple heat related issues- my phone has a thick case, idealy you want a touhc charge to not have the extra padding between the charing areas- also that little compartment for the phone is not well ventilated (something thats been addressed on newer models) ALSO I really like putting my phone there, but I tend to plug my phone in to the USB for android auto - but ot keep the ledge from putting pressure on the base of the cable I put a small item behind my phone so the base of my phone sticks up a little and takes the pressure off the usb cable... all three of these reasons, I have disabled the charging pad- but I do like ot use the spot for my phone- nowhere else felt right- and theres not a lot of room in an area I like to use a phone mount (a slight downside to having the 12.5inch media screen I guess.
I presume the ability to charge to a max. of 10%, is a throwback to shipping & delivery transport. So the vehicle is kept and transported with a minimal charge and it’s not taxing, to decide what % to charge the vehicle to at the point of leaving the factory. And also, the vehicles are not being transport with fully charged packs, plus Hyundai aren’t paying for excess electricity they’ll never use.
I shut off the wireless phone charger after I noticed my wallet got really hot in there on top of it...could it possibly be cause of a chip-credit card? Not sure but I use a corded rapid charger for my phone anyway. I LOVE my Kona Electric. Im at about 5500 miles since early May. Left my Civic hatchback sport in the gassy dust 😉
I should say the wallet was in there by itself and it got really hot.
Nice! I switched from a fast Golf R. Already used to it and I have do admit I like it ;)
Really? I have a Golf R and have test drove the Kona EV...I found it lacklustre. Would love an AWD Tesla...but that is way out of budget.
That intro made me do a double take and look around for Doug DeMuro.
Great video with a ton of info! Is the level 1 charger included a normal 120 V plug?. My garage has GFI outlets that DON"T have the T shaped slot indicating that the 120-volt receptacle is rated for 20-amps. Regular wall receptacles with a pair of vertical slots are rated for only 15-amps. Would this level 1 Hyundai charger for the Kona on my 15 amp circuit?
The Level 1 charge cord that comes with the Kona lets you select the maximum amperage. The default is 12A, but you can lower it to 10A or 8A. A 15A receptacle *should* be able to handle 12A continuous, but with residential wiring I would strongly recommend setting it to 10A.
Very good
2:03 IDK how I feel about how that looks. It looks like they were trying hard to make it look like an ICE with that cover. Why not take the opportunity to distinguish the EV with something different?
THAT is the advantage of front-wheel-drive for an EV : regen. It's one reason it regens better than those rear-wheel-drive EVs. The weight transfer on braking makes the regen much more efficient. So that FWD EV feature has a good reason.
How much more efficient? is the regen in front-wheel-drive vs rear-wheel-drive?
since Tesla and BMW have rear wheel drive BEVs on the market and they have high efficiency....even if what you say is true? it's not a major factor... is it?
show us the studies?
@@nc3826 I know of no studies, fair enough.
But there was a very good reason that many cars with "mixed" brakes put the discs in front and the drums in back. Due to weight transfers, that's where you need the most braking power. Even now with four-wheel discs, the fronts are invariably larger. The fronts do most of the braking. That is where the braking energy is. If you want to recover that energy, you go where the energy is.
Tesla and BMW have among the most efficient motors and body designs (CDA counts a good deal). And if I am not mistaken, aren't the Dual Motor Teslas more efficient on range than the RWD ones on a given battery size? Could that not be due to the existence of the generator/motor in the front, perhaps? Evidence, maybe, of what I am claiming?
@@drmcallis Ofc most Dual Motor EVs should be more efficient at regen braking since there is greater contact area to for regen vs RWD versions (BTW they use 2 different types of motors so that skewes the results) ...
And while the physics of "weight transfers" decreases the adhesion and there for the theoretical maximum braking force that can be applied to the rear wheels vs the front wheels..So historical it has been easier to just use larger brakes on the front of non regen ICE cars.
But braking with the rear wheels is much more stable than the front wheels. So in the real world it's much easier to safely apply the braking force to the rear wheels and only use the front wheels in hard stopping emergency situation. Conversely rear wheel braking is always advisable when the front brakes are applied to maintain stability. So based on the trade off a well designed rear wheel drive EV should have regen capabilities that surpass a front wheel drive EV in most situations. But its would be hard to find a way to have an apples to apples comparison?
If you have ever ridden a bike you should be familiar with the braking dynamics since the front and rear brake are applied individually unlike in a car. Most ppl wear out the rear brake 1st on bike since its easier to control.
BTW anecdotally the fact that the Kona EV FWD and the Tesla RWD both have high efficient for an EV it seems doubtful the debates we are having is very relevant anyway?
thx for your input...
Why 76kW is a problem for Electrify America? What video do you dig into that issue?
Unless you configure it manually, you pay for the higher tier which the car doesn't use
When its on 3rd level and uses motor power to stop, brake lights are on! That is actually what annoyes me a little because driver behind me who knows nothing about EV probably think that I am very nervous pressing brake all the time, when I actually just release gas pedal.
6:18 why is that? I've had several different people all saying different things on this topic. Some people say it doesn't matter if you drive it to near-empty and charge it to 100% all the time, while others say you should keep it between 20 and 80% as much as possible. Even my dealer said it's no problem to just charge it to 100% and drive it to near-empty. Very confusing.
The actual battery of the car is bigger than advertised/used, right? So it would never literally get to 100% if you would charge it that far.
7:58 because the phone gets quite hot when it's kept in that compartment for a while. I have turned it off for that reason.
On an EV is there a percentage of the battery to charge up to to extend battery life?
Is it better to keep the battery charged between certain numbers for extended battery life?
charging between 20-80% is best
weird thing is a big fella in a small car, making car even smaller.
911 good in snow ? , front wheel drive not the problem Hyundai problem , front wheel drive Renault Zoe neither torque steers or skids
Did you notice any range changes once you were in hot Southwest Florida? I'm considering getting a Kona up north and road tripping it to my home in Fort Myers.
No, if anything it was a bit better. The car does very well in the heat as the AC system draws a minimal amount of energy when compared to the heating system
@@OutofSpecMotoring How is the red color? I was leaning toward the Gray but if I want one on the south side of Washington DC with black interior red is a runner up. Also white, blue, black, silver. All the grays have the pebble blue interior.
Can’t recommend the red and I actually prefer the lighter interior! - Kyle
@@OutofSpecMotoring On videos I have a hard time noting the colors. Is yours Gray with black interior? Was your prefered light interior not available?
I'm used to dealers selling cars below MSRP but no luck. I was considering the ultimate for the adaptive cruise as our Subaru Forester has ruined me. Once the taxes and freight are added it's just a bit too much to justifly. Strongly leaning Limited now.
Nice review. You do really need to live with a car for a while to notice everything. One-day journalist reviews aren't actually that useful.
My question is does it have to be plugged in in order to turn on climate control from the phone app? My Kia Soul EV did need to be plugged in, which was annoying. The Leaf doesn't.
Dunno if you figured this out yet but no it shouldnt
Can it handle steep mountain climbing? Of course in either asphalt or cemented road.
I don’t understand. Why couldn’t it? It has way more torque than your average ICE vehicle
In Android Auto mode only half of the screen is available for apps. Waze/Google maps won't stretch to full screen ☹
CCS1? Weird... All Konas in other markets are CCS2 / Type 2 charging.
Are you able to run a/c while charging? Are you able to run a/c overnight while sleeping in car?
i think u cant sleep(lay) in there
The car has a utility mode, where accessories are powered by the drive battery. So yes. You can have the AC or heating on while sleeping in the back, and yes, you can fit in the back with the seats down and forward.
The only reason i'm looking at this because we can't get Honda E in the USA.
Kyle. Today /17/2020 I test drove a 2019 Kona limited... the power on acceleration did not seem impressive and a very strange, albeit dangerous thing happened when I ACCELERATED onto a highway and then attempted to pass a bus in the slow lane. The car suddenly lost power and went from the initial 60mph quickly down to 35 mph and stayed there despite pressure on the accelerator!!! I moved over behind the bus and immediately took an exit. The dash lit up with a RED little turtle light and it said that power loss occurred and attempts to continue could damage the electrical system!!! I pulled off onto the shoulder and stopped and the sales agent looked in the manual which described the warning without explanation. It then disappeared and the car was able to be driven on local roads back to the dealership. The range remaining during this episode was about 29 miles. Any ideas? Any similar experiences??? I was not a “happy camper”.
andrew scala 29 miles range (out of 258 miles) works out to ~11% battery capacity! it's the equivalent of letting someone test drive a gas vehicle running on empty. In both cases the sensors are not 100% accurate, and an ev has additional failsafes to prevent damage to the battery and components. So idk what they expected to happen. In the rare case you need to drive on a low charge, you should only use eco or eco+ mode (instead of normal or sport) and being very easy on the accelerator on the way to a power source to charge up. Ever had an RC toy car? When the battery is low you don't have the same power or top speed you had at at a quarter, half or full charge. or comparable to a smartphone going into an emergency low battery saver mode slowing everything down at 10% or 15% to better your chances at the battery not dying completely.
150 kW regen? Wow! Shame the cars are not available for sale.
They are, you can buy them in any ZEV state and drive / ship to you. Connecticut dealers are discounting them aggressively I hear
@@OutofSpecMotoring But you wont be able to get service/parts/warranty from a local dealer.
Wireless charging is not efficient. It is about 39 percent of wired charging. I would not use it at home or in a car.
Does the Ultimate have dual climate control? Didn't look like it.
It does not, just single zone and no rear vents.
@@OutofSpecMotoring Even on the Ultimate trim? That's too bad - I get used to it in my current car as otherwise my wife and I can never find a temperature that is comfortable for both of us.
The "9/11 Effect"? What's that??
The Porsche 911 is rear engine rear wheel drive. It has great traction for acceleration in the snow and other slippery conditions due to the weight over the rear wheels.
@@OutofSpecMotoring FYI-Will the (rear wheel drive) Corvair Kill You? th-cam.com/video/NI9Hq0_Mhy0/w-d-xo.html
Front wheels also has great traction in the snow or other slippery conditions due to the weight being over the wheels...and is far more stable than rear wheel drive... So maybe that's why the Kona is front wheel drive??? Most ppl dont need a race car just a safe car....
Just a thought you maybe a little biased on this subject? We all know there are trade offs, you should be more open and honest about them in the future Sir....
@@nc3826 I've had front wheel drive on my last cars, and I drive in Utah winters... lots of snow and ice. Honestly, I'll take front wheel drive over rear wheel drive any day for winter driving.
@@wombatdk Lets hope you use snow tires in the winter...
@@nc3826 of course. It's unsafe not to.
Were the headlights on during this video? They looked like they were flickering. Or is the flickering a camera phenomenon.
Probably the camera
Out of Spec Motoring Was there a light source shining on the headlights in the front view? That could reflect off the headlights and be picked up by the camera. I have noticed a flickering affect in other videos where tail lights appear to flicker. I think LED lights may flicker at a rate that is too fast for the human eye to detect but a camera using a certain frame rate will pickup the flashes and blanks creating a strobe-like affect in a video.
so its a plug in hybrid?
No. Full electric
FWD is so much better than RWD. I don't understand people that actually want RWD, much harder to control, usually the car weights much less in the back, it's just wrong.
My neighbor kona explode Last week in ile bizard Montréal
electrek.co/2019/07/27/hyundai-kona-ev-explodes-garage-blowing-door-off/
we all know about it and all the Teslas that have done it too...but ICE do it too..if ur really a neighbor there lot more common dangers to deal with...
It was 1 out of thousand of Kona. No worries ;)
Very informative, but the truth is it could have had a frunk...Frunk Hyundai Kona EV th-cam.com/video/0GRvSRlqtbc/w-d-xo.html
So ppl should stop using the false meme that flexible platforms (ie that can use different power sources) necessarily have a less efficient layout when used as a BEV then BEV only platform...
BTW Tesla is able to fit in a frunk... since its been able to reduce the number and size of the parts needed.... so there is more room for a frunk... and it has little to do with the fact it's a BEV only platform...
All my cars have been FWD since 2000. Kwit yor bitchin'! As far as slowing the car, you let cruise control and one pedal driving stop your car. Most of my EV charging planning is done online which is best since most chargers start with smart phone apps. What idiot drives around with a noisy sun roof open?! Auto hold is the best to use. Why didn't you praise the HUD? Makes for safe driving. The horns works and is loud, are you one of those agressive drivers always on their horn? Kwit yor bitchin!
Tesla is superior in every way.. no? hey how about you hit a tree with kona @ 100 miles/h and tell me how osom it is with the ENGINE STUCK IN YOUR RIBCASE. pff 0-60 in 7.6s wtf lol. Model x does this in 3.2s also what about battery degradation? 3 years and replace the battery? in Tesla its 20+ yo
Bad car, Tesla is the best.
Mindless fanboy FUD LMAO