So have you looked up Barbara Kentener yet...shes a native women killed by PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME...you know ...where you throw things out your window at random natives in Canada? Modern day lynching...no coverage in Canada...they couldnt fn care less...she deserves to be REMEMBERED
VERY VERY PROUD OF MIKE! WE GO BACK LIKE THE SEATS IN A CADILLAC! LOL. IM NORMALLY KNOWN AS STEPHANIE WHITE HERE ON TH-cam, BUT MY SON CHANGED MY PROFILE NAME AND PIC SOMEHOW THROUGH MY AMAZON STICK VIA THE APP. I CAN'T CHANGE IT BACK AND HE CAN'T REMEMBER HOW HE DID IT. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ Jess Secrest That's really cool of you to mention the anniversary 😀 😄 I have been a long time subscriber myself but well done for catching that! 👍 Cheers to you, and to all here as well 💯✌️ Thanks Mike 👍 Keep the masterpiece material alive and forever coming✌️💯💯💯✌️💎💎✔️
@@guyrabinowitzWho died and made you my teacher? Let me return the favor: Words like "basically" and "like" are called filler words because they are of no importance to the meaning of a sentence whatsoever. You can quote someone without those words in this century. I wrote a comment about something funny on TH-cam.. I wasn't trying to earn a doctorate in literature.
One time I fell outside and hit my head. I was dazed and didn't move for a minute. My six year old hesitantly came over and tried to start CPR, at which point I told him I was okay. But having seen his panic and courage in that moment I just cry thinking about poor Charlie hugging her mamas body
It was an approximation of what he thought people did when they perform CPR but it was so stinking cute. The little sound he made broke my heart. It was like a little nervous cry because he was scared I was hurt but like he needed to help anyway. That's so brave for a little first grader.
i’m pretty sure Kelly’s sister got custody of the children afterwards. From her ABC interview, she seems like a strong and loving woman, just like her sister so i’m sure the kids are getting the help they need
I’ve lived in Elmira my whole life. When this happened, her sister started a campaign called Kindness for Kelley you would do kind things for other people in Kelley’s name as a remembrance of her. People still do it to this day. It’s amazing the legacy she left.💜💜💜
The darling child seeing what happened, hugging her mum and then going to take care of her little brother is heart breaking to hear. I hope both of the children find joy in their lives because as a mum I would want my children to find joy in their lives if I wasn’t here anymore.
Little girl is the hero in this sad story, hugging her mom and then goes to protect her little brother. I hope they both doing alright nowadays. Much love 🙏❤
The fact that he wasn’t immediately trying to get his daughter out of the house and away from the scene probably gave the police a feeling that he was involved right away. It reminds me of Shauna Tiaffay’s murder. I don’t remember if Mike has covered it or not. It was about 10 years ago in Vegas, he was a firefighter and she was a cocktail waitress at one of the big hotels (Caesar’s maybe or the Palms) She filed for divorce so he hired a homeless guy that he was friends with to murder her…bc he didn’t want her to divorce him. He had their 8 year old for the night and the next morning just showed up “to pick something up”. No idea why he wanted to be the one to discover her body, but the asshole brought their daughter inside with him. So he purposefully had their 8 year old witness her mother’s dead body lying on the floor, having been beaten to death with a claw hammer. WHO DOES THAT?!?! A guy that doesn’t care about anyone but himself, just like this guy. Disgusting.
*One HUGE red flag was overlooked. I didn't notice anyone mentioning this, but the fact that the father did not immediately remove the child from the house that her mother was just murdered in is EXTREMELY telling.*
@@jumpinjohnnyruss an innocent parent would immediately remove their children from a scene of violence, mostly for safety reasons, but also to protect them from seeing anything.
Listening to that little girl try to logic out why the "robber" looked like daddy, but couldn't have BEEN her daddy, was absolutely heart wrenching. Another well done video, Thanks mike
The thing that always gets me in these situations is that the guilty parent has no qualms about subjecting their children to this horror. I have lost count of how many stories have a child discovering a parent's body or witnessing the murder, instigated or committed by the other parent. I can't wrap my head around that.
Not to overshadow the horror of what happened here, but the Life Insurance Dance never fails to crack me up. A much-needed moment of levity in the midst of someone doing something this disgusting to their wife and children. I hope those kids have found some small measure of peace knowing their mother’s killer is in jail and their mom will always be in their hearts and memories.
ur as cringe as him if you like that corny dance. I bet the friends and family of victims would just think it's the most hilarious thing if they saw it don't you? grow up, kid.
Charlie's a brave girl for hiding with her brother until her daddy got home. Unfortunately, she had to witness all of it. That's just distrubing for the poor little thing.
It's not just the US. Plenty of murders have been committed for life insurance money in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Canada -- basically anywhere life insurance is sold.
That little girl knew her dad. That 3 second admission from her... "His eyes and his shoes." Man. I have to wonder if she saw violence and just immediately attached him to it. Makes you wonder how things were at home when mom wasn't around.
My thought is the little girl witnessed previous physical altercations between her dad and mom and so when she saw this nights violence, in her mind it was simply her dad escalating the violence...
*"Hockey meant everything to him, he meant shit to hockey."* Fabulous quote, Mike! It really hurts when you come to a sense of that kind of reality, but most people embrace the sadness and quietly move on, hoping the bitterness makes us a bit better, more understanding and gentle human beings. It's too bad he couldn't.
And he's the kind of player that would be a thing in the 80s or even the 90s, but the NHL was doing away with that as early as the 2000s. Goons just aren't a thing anymore. He was a relic.
Good and sad story. Why are the crimes so predictable sometimes. The cheating, lying husband, and anger issues. Idk. Mike I would love to see some of your very first videos that you did.
Pierre La Croix realized that he didn't have the skills to be a hockey star. He went in a different direction, becoming the general manager of the Quebec Nordiques, who later became the Colorado Avalanche. Pierre had the quality of being able to turn a potential "failure" into success by being honest with himself. Unfortunately for his wife, Tom was a narcissist who turned his anger at himself against other people.
@@jamesbennett9620 Not so: Like AndreNDP said, 80's and 90's (and definitely 70's) he *would have* 'been somebody'... But, what he was, was a Goon, and with the NHL moving away from that, there wasn't a place for players like him anymore...
Hey, you. I knew these people through common friends. The whole story is even more horrible. Kelley was beloved by everyone. She was absolutely beautiful inside and out. She loved her family more than anything. Purple hearts for Kelley & her poor kids 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I'm so sorry. I hope somebody took in those poor kids. I can't think of a worse outcome than for your Dad to kill your Mum when you are that small and helpless.
It is beyond terrifying how easily monsters hide how evil they are. It makes the world that much more scary for people who would never hurt others. My heart breaks for that sweet woman, her loved ones, her son and my goodness, her daughter. I hope she is getting all the support she needs.
The life insurance dance is equal parts fun and creepy. I can't stop laughing at the Wide-Mike just staring at the camera for a flash. Congrats on the sponsor btw! You consistently put out quality, well-researched videos, all while being super charismatic and easy to watch, even with dark subject matter. I hope you get many more sponsors man!
Mike is the only true crime channel with a sense of humor that doesn't tub me wrong- I think it's because it's almost always ragging the murderers but even stuff like this manages to toe that line perfectly
Oh, you outdid yourself on his one! The life insurance montage had me buckled!! 🤣. Tom is a right coward and maggot. Good thing he likes fighting, where he’s at he’s going to need that. I don’t doubt Kelly fought with all she had, mum’s are lionesses. My heart hurts for that poor, wee, lass, seeing her mum die and protecting her little brother.
Elmirian here too! Probably one of the "biggest" crime stories to ever happen in our area in recent decades (there was also Michele Neurauter in Corning...which Mike also covered, as well as Michele Harris/California Harris just up the road ((hoping Mike will cover that ridiculously crazy case someday as well)). All very sad, but Kelly Clayton was especially sad considering the circumstances, how her children were right in the home, Charlie saw it all and hugged her mothers dead body 😢 Our wretched "claim to fame" in the true crime arena. Many creeps runnin' around our shitty little towns.
I lived and worked on Market St for most of my 20s (late 1990s-mid 2000s). I have such fond memories of my time there. This happened long after I left Corning, but I still visit regularly with friends & moreso around the time this happened.
There was a crooked lawyer in Atlanta that had his wife kidnapped WITH their 2 kids in the backseat. The kidnapper made her drive to an isolated area & shot her in front of her little boys. After the murderer fled the poor little 6 year old got his little brother out of the car & went for help. It was so horrific for those boys.
It is not that uncommon. If fact, I have seen where they not only killed the mother in front of their kids, but they also killed the kid(s). Think Chris Watts and Neil Entwistle. Both moms were pregnant that I think there is a syndrome for dads when the wife is pregnant. Forget about the mother, take care of the dads.
Between the life insurance dance, the hilarious ad (which I rewound and watched again), the one-liners delivered perfectly, and the surprise at the verrrrrrrrrrrry end (even after "Mike out!" for those of you who missed it), I can't say enough how much I enjoyed this video. You're so very good at this, Mike. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these!
Must have gallows humor in story’s like this or we would be too depressed to live in this whackadoodle world. Anytime there are life insurance clips I laugh out loud. Much needed levity! Thank you Mike for that!
The little girl probably had been witnessing violence and anger from her father for a while, so it was easy for her to think it was just him again. What a sad story. It's too bad these women can't get themselves and their children out in time. Keep shining the light on these vermin Mike. And glad to see that amazing insurance dance back in full form. It's the best.
I thought the exact same thing. Poor girl. I hope she and her brother are being well cared for and can grow up into healthy people despite all of this tragedy 💔
As soon as Mike said "He'd also just recently doubled her life insurance" I knew what was coming. I paused the video, took a few deep breaths and pressed play and sat in awe!
Wow can't believe you covered this ... I went to high school with Kelly. She and her family were and still are some of the kindest people you'll ever met, and she was very well known and liked throughout town. Despite the higher crime rate (limited to a small area) this came as a complete shock ... And EVERYONE immediately suspected Tom right after it happened. Like always, Mike did a great job covering and keeping it classy, while still entertaining ... Not easy given the genre! RIP ♥️🙏🏼
Mike, I never get tired of your life insurance sketches! You are so hilarious!! 😂 I loved the outtake, too. You presented this case well, as always. Thank you for the Tuesday and Friday videos.
My mom went to school and is great friends with Kelley’s sister Kim. She also tutored Charlie and Cullen after she passed because they were having trouble in school. There’s a LOT behind the scenes that happened that didn’t make it to the news 🤐
I haven't even finished the video yet and just the thought of that poor little girl seeing this and then holding her mother's dead battered body is heartbreaking.. that's not even the word for it! There is no words. God my heart hurts for those children 💔😭
I feel so bad for those children. I can't even imagine what they must've witnessed, seeing their mother get beaten to death while trying to fight to save her & her babies lives. She was trying to do anything she possibly could to keep him from harming her children. & unfortunately she lost her life, fighting her damndest. Wow! I really hope the kids are ok & doing well. Especially Charlie. After hearing what she witnessed & went through. Hugging her mom one last time, before going upstairs & protecting her little brother, shows so much courage & bravery at such a young age. I really hope she was able to get some form of therapy so she was able to work through all of that. That was way to much for a 7 year old little girl to take on. Especially to be thinking it may have been your dad, too. So incredibly sad! It's alot for anyone to take all of that on, less a little kid.
I wondered whether it was something the little girl had maybe seen before? Mike didn't say there was any previous DV incidents reported, but it was an isolated house and easy to cover up anything under a trip to hospital level? How could he care so little for his beautiful children? Putting them in harms way as he took their mother's unconditional love from them, making them watch and hear it being beaten out of her. I'm shaking my head wondering how he thought this was the solution to anything.
@@luciuscornelius7177 I know. I often find myself shaking my head at alot of these cases, where it is one partner setting up another to be killed savagely in front of their children. Leaving them to witness it themselves, or to be horribly hurt, to even being killed sometimes also. It literally boggles my mind how a parent can traumatize a child in this way. Forget divorce, go straight to murder. Take one parent away by death, which usually ALWAYS leads to the other one getting caught & being taken away by way of prison. I'll never be able to comprehend these types of people, I guess! 🤷🏼♀️ & to respond to what you first brought up. About possible DV. That is a great point. I mean, I don't see how there really could not be any, to be quite honest. He seemed to be a very very volatile person. Didn't take much for him to lose his cool. So it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, if there were some DV reports, or at least stuff the children witnessed & heard in that home, which breaks my heart to the fullest. Like you mentioned an isolated house, not many neighbors who can hear the goings on, & report things. So it very well could've been kept under wraps. I can only imagine what it would've been like to grow up or live in that home. Gives me the chills & makes me nauseous. Thank you for your response! 👍🏻
@@NannupTiger Unfortunately, I think you're right. But how could you be after something like that. I can only hope, & what will help me sleep better is hoping that they are with family who love them unconditionally & give them all the hugs & therapy they need. That is how I like to think of it. Or it will drive me insane.
Mike, I'm SOOO EFFIN happy for you, my friend! I'm just so enthused to see you getting so much support; such a massive following! Yet more importantly I pray that you are fulfilled because you deserve joy and happiness...you're great at what you do!!! Love from Mpls, MN
@jon louis Please don't insult animals like that. Animals don't behave like grown-men-still-boys-mentally do. Seriously, please don't use that term - animals are pure.
Don't mistake Idiot humans who choose to act like like brainless tw@ts when in public like Animals..Animals are 100x better in everyway than human beings ..Animals dont go around murdering, bombing, stabbing, raping, and gunning folk down..so quit with your derogatory remark....Animals are pure loving souls.
Oh ffs Lisa, there’s always one .! You know what he/ she means . It’s a phrase!!🙄 Besides, animals can be quite brutal in the wild, even if it is for the purpose of catching their food, that’s where the phrAse comes from.
@@UnapolegeticallyAProblem Actually, I’m kind of regretting my mean comment. They were always beautifully dressed and tipped well. Just pretty aggressive in general.
@@mollyk5557 Wow. That is some very diabolic and implicating shade you just tossed at Mike. "Juvenile antics and sophomoric humor"? Really? "No reverence and little compassion"? I disagree. I don't understand what fuels your anger, and I don't share your view of this channels host. My experience has been that Mike's story telling is researched, factual, compassionate, AND HUMOROUS on an ADULT level, and that keeps me coming back to this channel. I truly HOPE that he makes money through this process of TRUE CRIME STORYTELLING, so that he can continue to make content. I don't feel guilty, I have no reason to, I have done nothing to feel guilty about. His content is based on FACTS and not conjecture as your comment seems to be. Also, you aimed your attack at a commenter, not at Mike himself, and without explanation that in itself seems cowardly. I would love to hear why YOU feel the way you do about this channel. Please, enlighten the many of us who do not perceive what you do. Until then, take care of yourself - because I love ya 😁
Tom’s “grief “ when the police got there was so fake, no wonder they were suspicious. I guess people will always think they are so smart they will never be caught. Tom is where he needs to be, but my heart goes out to the kids.
I grew up in Elmira and used to go watch Thomas and the Jackals play all the time. I remember how much of a shock this murder was at the time. Absolutely horrific story.
Have you been to the prison camp there? Every time I hear Elmira, I think about it being the Union's worst prison camp and nearly as bad as notorious Andersonville in the South.
@@moomyung9231 Yep I sure have!! Funny enough Elmira is mostly known for the maximum security prison it has now as well. There’s lots of colonial history in the area though. I would highly recommend checking out the Newtown Battlefield state park if you’re ever in the area.
I am from Elmira and several of my immediate family members knew Kelly. And many of my family members were season ticket holder’s to the Jackel’s. The team actually folded because there wasn’t enough support or should I say in a ticket sales. But what do you expect for such a small town. When this happened to Kelley it devastated everyone. I haven’t lived in town since 1978, but I heard about it the next morning. Such devastation and such a young life. Kelley’s children are with her family however I’m not sure how they were doing now. I hope her daughter is fine and grows up to not remember the horrible details. I hope it doesn’t affect either one of the children, but I’m sure they will know what happened in time. Praying for them constantly.
I’m also from the area and know the family through mutual friends. Charlie and Cullen are both with Kelley’s sister and look happy.. I’m sure they’ve gone through a lot of therapy (her sister seems like an amazing mom, and would want them to do that). From pictures they both look happy.. but I hope they’ve been able to heal and find some kind of peace too. Horrible 😔
I recently stumbled on your channel and I've pretty much binge watched all your videos. To an embarrassing degree. I just want to let you know that I absolutely adore you! Thank you for all the you do.
I wonder if there is any sort of law that a person has to be informed if their spouse takes out new life insurance or suddenly increases their life insurance. As insurance seems to be such a common motive they could remove this motive simply by having a law in which the insurance company must confirm with the person getting insured that they know their husband/wife has suddenly doubled their life insurance or is taking out five life insurance policies on them.
I do not know this story, but I believe most insurance policies will NOT pay out if foul play is involved. Of course, arrogant and narcissistic people likely "think" they will not be caught. But I would think an insurance company SHOULD have photo ID and signatures of not only the person who buys the policy, but of the beneficiary. And yes, any/all changes to a policy SHOULD require BOTH parties to be present, or no changes can be made. Yes, greed is much too prevalent nowadays, as a motive for murder, to let these processes stay like they have been for decades. That should become State/Federal law, IMO.
Not giving tips here but is it that hard to count in Mississippi's on the phone? Like you don't actually have to do the CPR you can just tell them you're trying, maybe throw in a couple of 'Stay with me, dammit!'s.
@@jedross2136 they know exactly what it sounds like… I saw a case once, maybe twice, where it was said in court the defendant was pretending to do cpr.
@@jedross2136 they know how it sounds and looks. All it would take is an examination of the body and analysis of the recorded call. There are clear telltale signs even over the phone.
"He had the same eyes" wow. as a cop, that would have given me chills hearing that. That is such a slam dunk statement for the prosecution purely on an emotional level.
He did it. Hit men don’t beat a target to death. That was passion n anger murder. Prosecution just knew they didn’t have evidence to prove it so they too wat they could get. Mike and toms eyes are diff. That little girl knows wat she saw. I believe her
as i stated before, the stuff mike does at this point, is Art. the hockey mask / helmet addition to the life insurance dance....Keep going, Mike. We love you.
Being a content creator that supports other content creators this is the very first time I’ve ever watched an entire commercial done by the creator and that should tell you everything you need to know about how good Mike is at making anything entertaining cheers bud stoked on all your success you deserve every single bit of it!
you should see Jamie French's commercials, they are awesome, funny, clever, enjoyable to watch, I havent seen anyone do it like she does, its really cool
well he tricked most of us into watching at least half the commercial before realizing he was pitching Nord VPN and that it has nothing to do with the story... clever? it sure is.... but not the way to keep/gain subscribers. This channel is definitely going downhill, seems like Mike has sold out bigtime the past few months. as a long time subscriber it's sad, I'm one more shit video away from bailing on em for good . same crap is happening with 'Mr Ballen' channel- a year ago he was putting out 3-5 stories per week, he's now doing 1... it's all about maximizing profits at the detriment of good and honest content for these turds and apparently not at all about doing something they enjoy and take pride in any more.
Really?? Mr Ballen, This is Monsters, Lets read, 10tolife just off the dome... there are quite a few that do it themselves. I got the impression they have to as part of the sponsorship.
What the daughter's report says to me is that she intuitively felt her dad was 100% capable of murdering her mother violently. She lived with a psychopath and must've sensed from him that he was a danger to her mom. We often see what we believe. Her belief that her dad did it speaks volumes :/
@@The_ZeroLine Kids that age are still very intuitive. Their left hemispheres haven't taken over their responses yet. Their eyes (dad's and the killer's) probably looked the same to her bc they had that same soulless, empathy-less look that the eyes of sociopaths/psychopaths eyes can have. I know. I've looked into such eyes.
😂 the ending with the helmet! I haven’t heard of that case before, what a disgusting and cruel father to not only have his wife so brutally killed, but to have his daughters so traumatised for life. 🤬
Sad story for Kelley and her little ones. You’r man thought a lot of himself and look where it got him. Keep doing what you’r doing Mike. Absolutely brilliant!!! X
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter - she didn’t add the “e” even if that’s what she was intending to write. My guess is she realized she was wrong and hit the backspace one time and just didn’t pay attention to the apostrophe. Also, autocorrect sometimes just adds in the wrong one and people don’t really notice. What’s the point in being a grammar nazi over an apostrophe? I promise there are a lot more comments with a lot more grammar mistakes than this one. 🤦🏻♀️
@@laurenrobbins2654 yeah, it was clearly a typo the writer started (but didn’t finish) to correct. My guess is they were tapping out a quick comment on a mobile device and didn’t proofread it carefully before posting because it’s a comment on a TH-cam video, not a f*cking PhD dissertation.
The body cam footage from that night includes the most horrible sound I have ever heard in my life. Her older sister arrives on-scene, and the sound she makes when she learns what happened... I will never, ever forget it. I have 2 younger sisters myself and I truly cannot even *begin* to imagine that kind of pain. She and her husband are raising Kelley's kids and I am so glad that they are all together. The strength and love of that family is incredible. ❤
@Jessie you are so right. To hear Kim walling where's my sister, rips at anyone's heart. They are doing a beautiful job raising the kids and my understanding is that they are always keeping Kelley very much in their hearts, thoughts and prayers. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
There's nothing better than opening my TH-cam and the first thing I see is TC. I love your storytelling and it's a great way to start my day. Thanks Mike!! ✌️
Children are actually much more observant than we give them credit for. They notice things we don't, in fact. They're also brutally honest. That little girl's statement should never have been dismissed.
Agreed. But I'd say they feel it. Kids take in emotions. They can feel an argument. Kids can see through the curtains adults forcefully try to pull closed.
Yeah and no , you can't really take the word of a child in a legal matter most of the time as they have a hard time putting memories together ( you could ask me and my sisters about something we all saw as kids and you will get 3 very different accounts) Of course the child who witnessed a murder should be questioned and taken seriously.
Mike!!!! So happy to see you again. Caught Covid and was feeling like death for 4 days. Finally feeling better today and this video just made me feel even better!
Thanks for all your hard work, Mike. The personality and the presentation are always amazing, but the research, the writing, the editing, you put out such a great product for us. Which we appreciate because.... we love ya.
15:00 Kids can be the worst witnesses because they don't think to remember things but when they do, in fact, remember things they remember EVERYTHING. The fact that she nailed him down by his shoes is f*cking awesome. She's a little badass.
I can’t believe the guy tried the classic “trust me bro” with the 9-1-1 operator like my guy just scream “I didn’t want her to survive” right in front of the cops.
Ahhh! I was wondering if you were gonna do this case!! Here in Elmira, this was a pretty big deal! Quaint we ain't! She was a really wonderful woman! Her two children are doing very well now.
I discovered your channel during the pandemic, and yet this is my first comment haha. You are truly the best true crime TH-camr out there! I always look forward to your videos and are playing in the background every time I do my makeup, the dishes, fold the laundry, and anything else. Thanks for bringing a humorous aspect to true crime all while respecting the lives of the victims. You're the best!! Once I'm not poor anymore I promise to support you more on Patreon 😅 sending hugs from Mexico
That little girl saw this behavior from her dad before. Though he didn’t kill the mother, the daughter knew dad could do it. She did a mental cut and paste of dad over the real killer.
That poor, sweet little baby girl. It had to have been absolute hell for both children, but that poor little girl SAW it ALL. What an absolute monster that sorry excuse of a man is. Love the end clip and the shirt. Plaids looks good on you.
Mike you are just the best! I love the “life insurance” dance so much!! You have such a respectful way of telling these gruesome stories while honoring the victims and showing what toe-rags the perpetrators really are. Thank you!
So tragic. I never understand why some people never look at themselves for their own failings. Get over it... you're not the superstar you see in your head and the NHL didn't want you! He probably blamed his wife for every bad thing in his life. Thank you for such entertainment! You are hilarious, which seems inappropriate for such tragedy and yet absolutely perfect as you make fun of that creep! Great video!
I have NEVER laughed so hard at an ad for a sponsor. Honestly, I usually FF right on through. I REWINDED and watched yours TWICE. Good job, Mike, well done. I’ve been a faithful follower/fan for a while now, you’re killing it. Keep being you, you’re awesome. You are your best asset. 💚💚💚
I love when they put something special into the sponsor’s ad. Check out the Jolly channel. Ollie is so creative and funny. No crime on the channel. They taste food, talk about Korea, and joke around.
You have to wonder how these people think they can get away with it, and how shallow their motives are.. $10k is not a lot, and nor is however much half of the business "Mr Hockey-star's" was worth... Especially when there's children involved.
It's nothing to scoff at, if it landed in my lap I'd be elated. But to be killed for that?? At least with the horrible people who kill for millions, as awful as it is you can imagine how anyone so callous could try to justify it. If someone killed me over 10 grand I would haunt the ever loving shit out of them.
If you've ever watched Mike on mute he looks like a hilarious mad man. Had a phone call and watched this the first time on mute and it's hilarious. .his animated story telling is a delight to observe 💖thanks for being you Mike 💖
Yeah really cheered me up cause all this stuff kept going on and Im determined to watch this episode of it kills me lol cause watching him on mute just melted my heart lol💘
That's so chilling that Charlie thought it looked like her dad. It goes to show that perhaps even subconsciously she was aware of what he was capable of 😵
I requested this case, as I moved to Elmira just after it happened and wanted to see how you would cover it. Thank you for bringing attention to it-- I've heard tons about Kelley, and her loss is still felt in town years later 💜💜💜
THIS channel has messed with my head..I saw an ad for life insurance the other day..and the little girl smiled at her mum as she arranged her life insurance....and I got chills!😨
What the hell,?!!,I thought you were still talking about the freaking case,Nuh uh,security, Great timing for product / Sponsor,insert😂😂😂😂love love love it…. Great case, never heard of it, you have made my Friday king Mike😇✌🏻💕
My heart absolutely goes out to the children! Especially to Charlie! She most certainly did NOT need to witness that! Shame on both Michael and especially Tom for that!
Yeah I was wondering about the eyes the whole time. I wonder if it was because the man arrived in the same car she had just seen her dad leave in? Like maybe she didn't really see his eyes in the terror and confusion, just made an assumption and extrapolated. Poor little mite. But what a brave girl to stay with her little brother. She's gonna do great things
I loooooooove this channel 💛 I’m currently waiting for a back surgery for dislocated disk and since I can’t really move around much,this channel has been my buddy to keep me entertained and distract me from the pain Keep it up !! Love from Europe
It never ceases to amaze me that Mike has unlimited material for couples who would rather commit murder than get a divorce. It’s mind boggling how ugly marriage can end; thanks Mike!
When my marriage took a nosedive and I knew I wanted to leave for sure, I asked for a divorce. Hardest thing I've ever had to do, but my mind never for a second went to murder. That poor babygirl.
it's not that this dude would rather kill than get a divorce, I think it's more that he'd rather kill than not get a million dollar insurance policy...and we have unlimited material for those kind of couples as well don't we. lol.
@@beth4928 seriously why would you. it's so extra. I'm way too lazy for all that. rather just pop by the courthouse and wave bye. and get 50-50 custody of these kids because I'm not doing all this alone. hell no. I think you have to have some kind of very deep seated anger for your spouse and also be batshit insane to kill them. especially when they're helping you raise a kid... I wouldn't want to take on the job of raising my kids solo for all the money in the world. it's way too hard. I HAVE to have help from their father. so I need him alive and kicking for that.
@@mememan2344 you're right! it really doesn't matter what you do or don't do or what your circumstances are. there's always gonna be someone out there that will kill you simply because they want to and you exist in the wrong place at the wrong time. that's all it takes. Eliza Fletcher was just kidnapped and killed here where I live, Memphis, and I was just thinking about that. she was on her morning run, minding her business. dude saw her, decided her felt like killing that day, so he did. then tossed her body in the dumpster down the road from his brother's house about a mile, and continued on with his day. that's all it takes for your life to be over forever and you're just be dust in the wind and a memory and they get to keep living. living in prison 47% of the time, since 47% of murders are solved (in the USA), or a 53% chance of not in prison...nope, just going around with life like nothing ever happened...and your death doesn't even get avenged. you just turn to dirt and your murderer gets to go on with their life. It's very depressing. I imagine it's hard to believe in god anymore for victim's families of unsolved (and solved!) murders. ....I have to stop watching so much true crime.
I really enjoy Mike's videos. He had a way of being funny while still being respectful of the victims and their families. And he is not afraid to call the perps what they are!! Keep it up sir
This man had everything that a normal person would want in his life; a beautiful & supportive wife, two wonderful kids, a successful business, and a happy home, but he had to throw it all away. Men can be such dicks at times. Hope he languishes in prison for the rest of his life & then in hell. RIP Kelley!
Mike, you are such a hard worker. Never disappoint. Never take long hiatuses. Not that you don’t deserve them. Reliable & fantastic uploads every time. Thank you!
Mike, you are a wonderful presenter and it’s evident how much research you do. You always take us on the journey from the end of the story and back to the beginning. We come to know the victims and feel deeply for them and their loved ones. Thank you.
It just boggles my mind that people think it's a good idea to raise an insurance policy and murder someone close to you. Then to do it in front of your children! You have to be a heartless predator. Disgusting.
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can u bring back the old intro music ? i miss it
Thank youuuuuuuu Mike 🌼
Lots of love and respect.
Also to your family.
Greetings from Amsterdam The Netherlands 🇳🇱
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Mike!!! I frigging love ya man
So have you looked up Barbara Kentener yet...shes a native women killed by PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME...you know ...where you throw things out your window at random natives in Canada? Modern day lynching...no coverage in Canada...they couldnt fn care less...she deserves to be REMEMBERED
Mike's channels anniversary is the 23rd . Over 600 million views. We are all so proud of you Mike. Thank you for what you do twice a week.
VERY VERY PROUD OF MIKE! WE GO BACK LIKE THE SEATS IN A CADILLAC! LOL. IM NORMALLY KNOWN AS STEPHANIE WHITE HERE ON TH-cam, BUT MY SON CHANGED MY PROFILE NAME AND PIC SOMEHOW THROUGH MY AMAZON STICK VIA THE APP. I CAN'T CHANGE IT BACK AND HE CAN'T REMEMBER HOW HE DID IT. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations 👏🎉👏 Mike!
Yes proud of Mike!
@ Jess Secrest
That's really cool of you to mention the anniversary 😀 😄 I have been a long time subscriber myself but well done for catching that! 👍 Cheers to you, and to all here as well 💯✌️
Thanks Mike 👍
Keep the masterpiece material alive and forever coming✌️💯💯💯✌️💎💎✔️
What a rock star we have 😍🥰
"He retired from... nobody wanting to hire him." Mike's priceless humor again!!! 😂
MIKE IS THE MASTERMIND THATS WHY HE HAS SO MUCH INFO.
Mike is pretty funny. You really gotta love him!
Those words were not exactly what Mike said. Therefore, it is not a quote and quotation marks should not have been used.
@@guyrabinowitzWho died and made you my teacher? Let me return the favor: Words like "basically" and "like" are called filler words because they are of no importance to the meaning of a sentence whatsoever. You can quote someone without those words in this century. I wrote a comment about something funny on TH-cam.. I wasn't trying to earn a doctorate in literature.
That's basically me. Retired from sucking as life now I just ride bike around.
One time I fell outside and hit my head. I was dazed and didn't move for a minute. My six year old hesitantly came over and tried to start CPR, at which point I told him I was okay. But having seen his panic and courage in that moment I just cry thinking about poor Charlie hugging her mamas body
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That made me laugh, not the fall on the head thing, I'm sure that was pretty sore, the kid trying CPR (a future medic).
cpr at 6 years old? you raised your kid right. i hope the head feels better.
It was an approximation of what he thought people did when they perform CPR but it was so stinking cute. The little sound he made broke my heart. It was like a little nervous cry because he was scared I was hurt but like he needed to help anyway. That's so brave for a little first grader.
@@aedansilva1114 That's such a sweet and sad thought!
I hope whomever got custody of the kids has put Charlie into a lot of therapy. That is some seriously sick crap her own father put her through.
i’m pretty sure Kelly’s sister got custody of the children afterwards. From her ABC interview, she seems like a strong and loving woman, just like her sister so i’m sure the kids are getting the help they need
I’ve lived in Elmira my whole life. When this happened, her sister started a campaign called Kindness for Kelley you would do kind things for other people in Kelley’s name as a remembrance of her. People still do it to this day. It’s amazing the legacy she left.💜💜💜
Yeah so what ?
@@uglyhobo4602 shoo
That's beautiful. ❤️ Do you know how the children are doing?
Heart warming 🥺🤍
Aww that's beautiful and something her children will see in the name of their mum ❤️
The darling child seeing what happened, hugging her mum and then going to take care of her little brother is heart breaking to hear. I hope both of the children find joy in their lives because as a mum I would want my children to find joy in their lives if I wasn’t here anymore.
😢😢
Little girl is the hero in this sad story, hugging her mom and then goes to protect her little brother. I hope they both doing alright nowadays. Much love 🙏❤
i think the little girl did it and framed her dad
@@scorch4299 That’s terrible. But funny. But very, very terrible of you.
They are thriving now and cared for by Kelly’s sister.
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they're in a much better place.
The fact that he wasn’t immediately trying to get his daughter out of the house and away from the scene probably gave the police a feeling that he was involved right away. It reminds me of Shauna Tiaffay’s murder. I don’t remember if Mike has covered it or not. It was about 10 years ago in Vegas, he was a firefighter and she was a cocktail waitress at one of the big hotels (Caesar’s maybe or the Palms) She filed for divorce so he hired a homeless guy that he was friends with to murder her…bc he didn’t want her to divorce him. He had their 8 year old for the night and the next morning just showed up “to pick something up”. No idea why he wanted to be the one to discover her body, but the asshole brought their daughter inside with him. So he purposefully had their 8 year old witness her mother’s dead body lying on the floor, having been beaten to death with a claw hammer. WHO DOES THAT?!?! A guy that doesn’t care about anyone but himself, just like this guy. Disgusting.
*One HUGE red flag was overlooked. I didn't notice anyone mentioning this, but the fact that the father did not immediately remove the child from the house that her mother was just murdered in is EXTREMELY telling.*
I'm not excusing this a-hole, but how do you know he didn't? The neighbor was there when the cop arrived, maybe the kids were at the neighbor's house.
Excellent point!
Write that down!
Write that down!
What does it tell?
@@jumpinjohnnyruss an innocent parent would immediately remove their children from a scene of violence, mostly for safety reasons, but also to protect them from seeing anything.
Listening to that little girl try to logic out why the "robber" looked like daddy, but couldn't have BEEN her daddy, was absolutely heart wrenching. Another well done video, Thanks mike
Sweet, heart wrenching and spontaneous
Agreed, Dont push me cause I'm close to the edge of my sit 💀
I lmao'd so hard!
@@cesarincamendozaloyola4407 spontaneous? how was it.... spontaneous?
@@Anonymous38572 Um okay ? U sound like a psycho Ijs
The thing that always gets me in these situations is that the guilty parent has no qualms about subjecting their children to this horror.
I have lost count of how many stories have a child discovering a parent's body or witnessing the murder, instigated or committed by the other parent.
I can't wrap my head around that.
They're psychopaths so they don't have empathy.
Good point. Hires someone to murder his wife while the kids are in the same house.
Just what I commented b4 reading other comments. Totally agree how can they!? Psychos well and truly!
Yeah it's complete and utter selfishness! They only care about #1- themselves.
Hatred for the ex is greater than any love they may have for the kids....
Is this a growing trend
or has this been going on forever ?
Not to overshadow the horror of what happened here, but the Life Insurance Dance never fails to crack me up. A much-needed moment of levity in the midst of someone doing something this disgusting to their wife and children. I hope those kids have found some small measure of peace knowing their mother’s killer is in jail and their mom will always be in their hearts and memories.
ur as cringe as him if you like that corny dance. I bet the friends and family of victims would just think it's the most hilarious thing if they saw it don't you? grow up, kid.
The dance 😂
Charlie's a brave girl for hiding with her brother until her daddy got home. Unfortunately, she had to witness all of it. That's just distrubing for the poor little thing.
Thanks for the spoiler
Shoulda watched the video instead of reading the comments first 🤷
@@chrissmith6307
Right?
😅🤣😂😂🤣😅
It is always someone else's fault!!
@@vincentcontrado1182 this is a true crime case with real people. not a movie. tf is wrong with you.
@@vincentcontrado1182 are you even serious?
Mother told her to run out of the house but 7-year old ran
to protect her 3-vear old brother. B-O-S-S. What a hero!
Definitely a boss
Raised well... by their mother
Yup. Heartbreaking she had to go through that but yup.
About as brave as it can get.
Utterly heartbreaking 💔
Mike has proven that, in the US, life insurance is a leading cause of death. Well done, well done.
Sad but true 🫤
It's not just the US. Plenty of murders have been committed for life insurance money in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Canada -- basically anywhere life insurance is sold.
It's a great idea if everybody was honest but unfortunately a lot of people just see insurance as a bet they can't lose.
Mike has just proven the US is still the money media market, life insurance is everywhere.
Scary I have like 3 worth a couple mil 🤣
That little girl knew her dad. That 3 second admission from her... "His eyes and his shoes." Man. I have to wonder if she saw violence and just immediately attached him to it. Makes you wonder how things were at home when mom wasn't around.
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
My thought is the little girl witnessed previous physical altercations between her dad and mom and so when she saw this nights violence, in her mind it was simply her dad escalating the violence...
@@williamtobin7282 My thought exactly.The kid felt her father was capable of really hurting her mom.
She said "the mask and his shoes" in that sentence, but yeah it's kinda heartbreaking
@@cole4342 wElL aKsHuLlY
*"Hockey meant everything to him, he meant shit to hockey."* Fabulous quote, Mike! It really hurts when you come to a sense of that kind of reality, but most people embrace the sadness and quietly move on, hoping the bitterness makes us a bit better, more understanding and gentle human beings. It's too bad he couldn't.
And he's the kind of player that would be a thing in the 80s or even the 90s, but the NHL was doing away with that as early as the 2000s. Goons just aren't a thing anymore. He was a relic.
He was a legend in his own mind.
Good and sad story. Why are the crimes so predictable sometimes. The cheating, lying husband, and anger issues. Idk. Mike I would love to see some of your very first videos that you did.
Pierre La Croix realized that he didn't have the skills to be a hockey star. He went in a different direction, becoming the general manager of the Quebec Nordiques, who later became the Colorado Avalanche. Pierre had the quality of being able to turn a potential "failure" into success by being honest with himself. Unfortunately for his wife, Tom was a narcissist who turned his anger at himself against other people.
@@jamesbennett9620 Not so: Like AndreNDP said, 80's and 90's (and definitely 70's) he *would have* 'been somebody'... But, what he was, was a Goon, and with the NHL moving away from that, there wasn't a place for players like him anymore...
Hey, you. I knew these people through common friends. The whole story is even more horrible. Kelley was beloved by everyone. She was absolutely beautiful inside and out. She loved her family more than anything. Purple hearts for Kelley & her poor kids 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Do you know any more details about why Charlie would say it looked like her dad with the eyes and shoes?
I'm so sorry. I hope somebody took in those poor kids. I can't think of a worse outcome than for your Dad to kill your Mum when you are that small and helpless.
@@danis4054 No. That's still a mystery unless he was maybe wearing some of Tom's hockey masks?
@@profk8 that makes sense...it's so sad and messed up. 😐
Very, very sad 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
One of the longest and the most varied life insurance dance parties so far. Mike truly knows what we want and why we watch him.
Love the life insurance montage so much.. never gets old!!
Speak for yourself clown
I truly feel for poor Charlie and what she went through and this will haunt her for the rest of her natural life.
Please don't avoid the "LIFE INSURANCE" bit, Mike. I love it, even anticipate it, every time.
OMG - That poor little girl, so tragic, seeing her mother being murdered, that will stay with her always, bless her little heart. 💔 😢 very sad indeed.
Lol
“How do you know she’s beyond CPR?“
“Just trust me!“
Well… that’s a new one 🤦🏻♀️
@Hury Springer 🤣
It is beyond terrifying how easily monsters hide how evil they are. It makes the world that much more scary for people who would never hurt others. My heart breaks for that sweet woman, her loved ones, her son and my goodness, her daughter. I hope she is getting all the support she needs.
The life insurance dance is equal parts fun and creepy. I can't stop laughing at the Wide-Mike just staring at the camera for a flash.
Congrats on the sponsor btw! You consistently put out quality, well-researched videos, all while being super charismatic and easy to watch, even with dark subject matter. I hope you get many more sponsors man!
Mike is the only true crime channel with a sense of humor that doesn't tub me wrong- I think it's because it's almost always ragging the murderers but even stuff like this manages to toe that line perfectly
Oh, you outdid yourself on his one! The life insurance montage had me buckled!! 🤣. Tom is a right coward and maggot. Good thing he likes fighting, where he’s at he’s going to need that. I don’t doubt Kelly fought with all she had, mum’s are lionesses. My heart hurts for that poor, wee, lass, seeing her mum die and protecting her little brother.
Very true! I am so angry, that I hope he gets besides jail a proper treatment in jail with some guys not that slim and tiny like he is.
Now now... dont be so harsh! ...maggots are useful! 😂
@@_bluephoenix_ 😂. Very true!
This happened in my hometown!! There’s still purple ribbons around in memory of her. Heartbreaking 😔
It's a lovely place, this scumbag notwithstanding.
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Elmirian here too!
Probably one of the "biggest" crime stories to ever happen in our area in recent decades (there was also Michele Neurauter in Corning...which Mike also covered, as well as Michele Harris/California Harris just up the road ((hoping Mike will cover that ridiculously crazy case someday as well)).
All very sad, but Kelly Clayton was especially sad considering the circumstances, how her children were right in the home, Charlie saw it all and hugged her mothers dead body 😢
Our wretched "claim to fame" in the true crime arena.
Many creeps runnin' around our shitty little towns.
Caton, NY
I lived and worked on Market St for most of my 20s (late 1990s-mid 2000s). I have such fond memories of my time there. This happened long after I left Corning, but I still visit regularly with friends & moreso around the time this happened.
This is one of the sickest cases I’ve ever heard. He had his wife brutally murdered in front of their children. Wow. Speechless.
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
There was a crooked lawyer in Atlanta that had his wife kidnapped WITH their 2 kids in the backseat. The kidnapper made her drive to an isolated area & shot her in front of her little boys. After the murderer fled the poor little 6 year old got his little brother out of the car & went for help. It was so horrific for those boys.
His name was Fred Tokars. He was a major piece of shite - crooked lawyer, cheater & murderer
It was a very tragic story. However, it was a very convoluted & interesting case.
It is not that uncommon. If fact, I have seen where they not only killed the mother in front of their kids, but they also killed the kid(s). Think Chris Watts and Neil Entwistle. Both moms were pregnant that I think there is a syndrome for dads when the wife is pregnant. Forget about the mother, take care of the dads.
Between the life insurance dance, the hilarious ad (which I rewound and watched again), the one-liners delivered perfectly, and the surprise at the verrrrrrrrrrrry end (even after "Mike out!" for those of you who missed it), I can't say enough how much I enjoyed this video. You're so very good at this, Mike. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these!
“Alright I think I got enough dumb shit there.” 😂😂😂
*he looks so different without glasses O.o*
I had to rewind it back too. I hollered 😂😂😂
I love the sailor cap or captain not sure but that’s pretty swank right thar 😉
Must have gallows humor in story’s like this or we would be too depressed to live in this whackadoodle world. Anytime there are life insurance clips I laugh out loud. Much needed levity! Thank you Mike for that!
The little girl probably had been witnessing violence and anger from her father for a while, so it was easy for her to think it was just him again.
What a sad story. It's too bad these women can't get themselves and their children out in time. Keep shining the light on these vermin Mike. And glad to see that amazing insurance dance back in full form. It's the best.
Exactly what I thought. She may have wanted to tell someone about his violence and that was her chance.
I thought the exact same thing. Poor girl. I hope she and her brother are being well cared for and can grow up into healthy people despite all of this tragedy 💔
No she hadn't. The husband couldn't bring himself to do it so he hired a flunky to kill his wife.....
Honestly when it comes to the wife she could've got murdered no matter what she could've left him secretly or not and then he'll find her etc...
Pretty funny coming from someone choosing to used Susan Smith as a screen name.
The fact that the kids witnessed this and the part about the little girl hugging her mom then hiding with her brother broke my heart 💔
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As soon as Mike said "He'd also just recently doubled her life insurance" I knew what was coming. I paused the video, took a few deep breaths and pressed play and sat in awe!
Wow can't believe you covered this ... I went to high school with Kelly. She and her family were and still are some of the kindest people you'll ever met, and she was very well known and liked throughout town. Despite the higher crime rate (limited to a small area) this came as a complete shock ... And EVERYONE immediately suspected Tom right after it happened.
Like always, Mike did a great job covering and keeping it classy, while still entertaining ... Not easy given the genre!
RIP ♥️🙏🏼
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
you spelled kelley's name wrong
@@aljabirxiju9475 I am suspicious, yeah? But I agree that Mike is pretty cool. Is that an Irish accent that he has, you think?
Mike, I never get tired of your life insurance sketches! You are so hilarious!! 😂 I loved the outtake, too. You presented this case well, as always. Thank you for the Tuesday and Friday videos.
My mom went to school and is great friends with Kelley’s sister Kim. She also tutored Charlie and Cullen after she passed because they were having trouble in school. There’s a LOT behind the scenes that happened that didn’t make it to the news 🤐
That’s not surprising..😞
OMG...now I am deeply intrigued!!!
Yes, he was a SCUMBAG for what he did to Kim's family.
God bless you & your family & for taking care of Kelley's babies
Heartbreaking 💔💔💔 RIP, Kelley. I hope her children are doing well.
Thanks again Mike. Those poor children. I hope whoever is taking care of them really helps them through this, in their life time.
That life insurance montage tipped me over the edge.
Watching that was …..
One of the best things that’s ever happened to me.
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same! I love the montage and think Mike should put it in every video with insurance from now on 🤣🤣
Yikes. Please get a life.
I have a life... and I too loved the life insurance montage. Made me laugh out loud while supposedly working at work! 😜
it was truly epic
@@verukasault9065 Yikes. Get a new personality.
I haven't even finished the video yet and just the thought of that poor little girl seeing this and then holding her mother's dead battered body is heartbreaking.. that's not even the word for it! There is no words. God my heart hurts for those children 💔😭
This is how Dexter’s dark passenger was created
I feel so bad for those children. I can't even imagine what they must've witnessed, seeing their mother get beaten to death while trying to fight to save her & her babies lives. She was trying to do anything she possibly could to keep him from harming her children. & unfortunately she lost her life, fighting her damndest. Wow! I really hope the kids are ok & doing well. Especially Charlie. After hearing what she witnessed & went through. Hugging her mom one last time, before going upstairs & protecting her little brother, shows so much courage & bravery at such a young age. I really hope she was able to get some form of therapy so she was able to work through all of that. That was way to much for a 7 year old little girl to take on. Especially to be thinking it may have been your dad, too. So incredibly sad! It's alot for anyone to take all of that on, less a little kid.
I wondered whether it was something the little girl had maybe seen before? Mike didn't say there was any previous DV incidents reported, but it was an isolated house and easy to cover up anything under a trip to hospital level?
How could he care so little for his beautiful children? Putting them in harms way as he took their mother's unconditional love from them, making them watch and hear it being beaten out of her.
I'm shaking my head wondering how he thought this was the solution to anything.
@@luciuscornelius7177 I know. I often find myself shaking my head at alot of these cases, where it is one partner setting up another to be killed savagely in front of their children. Leaving them to witness it themselves, or to be horribly hurt, to even being killed sometimes also. It literally boggles my mind how a parent can traumatize a child in this way. Forget divorce, go straight to murder. Take one parent away by death, which usually ALWAYS leads to the other one getting caught & being taken away by way of prison. I'll never be able to comprehend these types of people, I guess! 🤷🏼♀️ & to respond to what you first brought up. About possible DV. That is a great point. I mean, I don't see how there really could not be any, to be quite honest. He seemed to be a very very volatile person. Didn't take much for him to lose his cool. So it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, if there were some DV reports, or at least stuff the children witnessed & heard in that home, which breaks my heart to the fullest. Like you mentioned an isolated house, not many neighbors who can hear the goings on, & report things. So it very well could've been kept under wraps. I can only imagine what it would've been like to grow up or live in that home. Gives me the chills & makes me nauseous. Thank you for your response! 👍🏻
Poor kids, they'll never be the same..
@@NannupTiger Unfortunately, I think you're right. But how could you be after something like that. I can only hope, & what will help me sleep better is hoping that they are with family who love them unconditionally & give them all the hugs & therapy they need. That is how I like to think of it. Or it will drive me insane.
I feel bad for how much of a clown you are
Mike, I'm SOOO EFFIN happy for you, my friend! I'm just so enthused to see you getting so much support; such a massive following! Yet more importantly I pray that you are fulfilled because you deserve joy and happiness...you're great at what you do!!! Love from Mpls, MN
I used to work in a well-known hotel that hosted visiting hockey teams. Those guys were like a bunch of animals in general. Even at breakfast.
@jon louis
Please don't insult animals like that. Animals don't behave like grown-men-still-boys-mentally do. Seriously, please don't use that term - animals are pure.
Don't mistake Idiot humans who choose to act like like brainless tw@ts when in public like Animals..Animals are 100x better in everyway than human beings ..Animals dont go around murdering, bombing, stabbing, raping, and gunning folk down..so quit with your derogatory remark....Animals are pure loving souls.
Oh ffs Lisa, there’s always one .! You know what he/ she means . It’s a phrase!!🙄
Besides, animals can be quite brutal in the wild, even if it is for the purpose of catching their food, that’s where the phrAse comes from.
@@UnapolegeticallyAProblem Actually, I’m kind of regretting my mean comment. They were always beautifully dressed and tipped well. Just pretty aggressive in general.
You are a perfect blend of humor, reverence and compassion...I can't seem to stop watching these! Well done, sir
@@mollyk5557 Wow. That is some very diabolic and implicating shade you just tossed at Mike.
"Juvenile antics and sophomoric humor"? Really?
"No reverence and little compassion"? I disagree.
I don't understand what fuels your anger, and I don't share your view of this channels host.
My experience has been that Mike's story telling is researched, factual, compassionate, AND HUMOROUS on an ADULT level, and that keeps me coming back to this channel.
I truly HOPE that he makes money through this process of TRUE CRIME STORYTELLING, so that he can continue to make content.
I don't feel guilty, I have no reason to, I have done nothing to feel guilty about. His content is based on FACTS and not conjecture as your comment seems to be.
Also, you aimed your attack at a commenter, not at Mike himself, and without explanation that in itself seems cowardly.
I would love to hear why YOU feel the way you do about this channel. Please, enlighten the many of us who do not perceive what you do.
Until then, take care of yourself - because I love ya 😁
@@sunsetpark_fpv Well said!!! Bravo!!!
Tom’s “grief “ when the police got there was so fake, no wonder they were suspicious. I guess people will always think they are so smart they will never be caught. Tom is where he needs to be, but my heart goes out to the kids.
How do you know shes beyond CPR, sir?
"Trust me, shes dead...heh heh heh...."
He sounded like such a wimp.
@@helenadegroot6504 He is a wimp. A bloody wimp.
First thing he asked for was water. Who is going to be thinking of a drink after that though?
My heart sank into my stomach when I saw the little child being asked about what happened in the interview room
The Life Insurance bits always make me laugh, like at this point you don't even need to say it, the music just tells everyone.
This bit will be an eternal favourite 😂❤️
I grew up in Elmira and used to go watch Thomas and the Jackals play all the time. I remember how much of a shock this murder was at the time. Absolutely horrific story.
Have you been to the prison camp there? Every time I hear Elmira, I think about it being the Union's worst prison camp and nearly as bad as notorious Andersonville in the South.
@@moomyung9231 Yep I sure have!! Funny enough Elmira is mostly known for the maximum security prison it has now as well. There’s lots of colonial history in the area though. I would highly recommend checking out the Newtown Battlefield state park if you’re ever in the area.
I am from Elmira and several of my immediate family members knew Kelly. And many of my family members were season ticket holder’s to the Jackel’s. The team actually folded because there wasn’t enough support or should I say in a ticket sales. But what do you expect for such a small town. When this happened to Kelley it devastated everyone. I haven’t lived in town since 1978, but I heard about it the next morning. Such devastation and such a young life. Kelley’s children are with her family however I’m not sure how they were doing now. I hope her daughter is fine and grows up to not remember the horrible details. I hope it doesn’t affect either one of the children, but I’m sure they will know what happened in time. Praying for them constantly.
I’m also from the area and know the family through mutual friends. Charlie and Cullen are both with Kelley’s sister and look happy.. I’m sure they’ve gone through a lot of therapy (her sister seems like an amazing mom, and would want them to do that). From pictures they both look happy.. but I hope they’ve been able to heal and find some kind of peace too. Horrible 😔
Cocktail waitress marries aggressive, abusive minor league hockey player... Hmm, I wonder where this is going to go???
Mark Twain's study probably still sits on Elmira College Campus.
@@scottdavidson526 it sure does!
I recently stumbled on your channel and I've pretty much binge watched all your videos. To an embarrassing degree. I just want to let you know that I absolutely adore you! Thank you for all the you do.
Me too! I've been doing the exact same thing. Mike is awesome!
I wonder if there is any sort of law that a person has to be informed if their spouse takes out new life insurance or suddenly increases their life insurance. As insurance seems to be such a common motive they could remove this motive simply by having a law in which the insurance company must confirm with the person getting insured that they know their husband/wife has suddenly doubled their life insurance or is taking out five life insurance policies on them.
Makes good sense!!
One would think.
Good idea. I was at the bank recently and a bank employee was trying to convince a man to start a secret acct.
I do not know this story, but I believe most insurance policies will NOT pay out if foul play is involved. Of course, arrogant and narcissistic people likely "think" they will not be caught. But I would think an insurance company SHOULD have photo ID and signatures of not only the person who buys the policy, but of the beneficiary. And yes, any/all changes to a policy SHOULD require BOTH parties to be present, or no changes can be made.
Yes, greed is much too prevalent nowadays, as a motive for murder, to let these processes stay like they have been for decades. That should become State/Federal law, IMO.
Yep. I cannot believe this has not been implemented yet.
"Tell me why you think she's beyond CPR?"
"Just trust me."
yeah, this guy did it.
He might have well have said 'oh trust me, I made sure'
Not giving tips here but is it that hard to count in Mississippi's on the phone? Like you don't actually have to do the CPR you can just tell them you're trying, maybe throw in a couple of 'Stay with me, dammit!'s.
@@jedross2136 they know exactly what it sounds like… I saw a case once, maybe twice, where it was said in court the defendant was pretending to do cpr.
You couldn't make that up in a bad novel . . . it would be too ridiculous.
@@jedross2136 they know how it sounds and looks. All it would take is an examination of the body and analysis of the recorded call. There are clear telltale signs even over the phone.
"He had the same eyes" wow. as a cop, that would have given me chills hearing that. That is such a slam dunk statement for the prosecution purely on an emotional level.
she saw her father angry too many times
@@lyricberlin 😭💔
But her father was not the murderer. She was not seeing her father’s eyes.
@@jamesbennett9620 they mean they looked as souless as the killers, prob dad was beating mom on the regular and kid made the connection
He did it. Hit men don’t beat a target to death. That was passion n anger murder. Prosecution just knew they didn’t have evidence to prove it so they too wat they could get. Mike and toms eyes are diff. That little girl knows wat she saw. I believe her
as i stated before, the stuff mike does at this point, is Art. the hockey mask / helmet addition to the life insurance dance....Keep going, Mike. We love you.
Did you watch all the way to the end?? 🤭
Thank you for doing an extended Life Insurance cutscene, I thoroughly enjoy them
Thank you, as always, Mike!!!
I, too, wonder how she confused her dad with the other guy. She said his eyes and shoes....🤔
Appreciate you watching Justin!
Being a content creator that supports other content creators this is the very first time I’ve ever watched an entire commercial done by the creator and that should tell you everything you need to know about how good Mike is at making anything entertaining cheers bud stoked on all your success you deserve every single bit of it!
you should see Jamie French's commercials, they are awesome, funny, clever, enjoyable to watch, I havent seen anyone do it like she does, its really cool
Same, Mike's a real one for sure
well he tricked most of us into watching at least half the commercial before realizing he was pitching Nord VPN and that it has nothing to do with the story...
clever? it sure is.... but not the way to keep/gain subscribers. This channel is definitely going downhill, seems like Mike has sold out bigtime the past few months. as a long time subscriber it's sad, I'm one more shit video away from bailing on em for good
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same crap is happening with 'Mr Ballen' channel- a year ago he was putting out 3-5 stories per week, he's now doing 1... it's all about maximizing profits at the detriment of good and honest content for these turds and apparently not at all about doing something they enjoy and take pride in any more.
I was thinking the same. I always skip ads but I didn't this one. I found it appealing actually.
Really?? Mr Ballen, This is Monsters, Lets read, 10tolife just off the dome... there are quite a few that do it themselves.
I got the impression they have to as part of the sponsorship.
What the daughter's report says to me is that she intuitively felt her dad was 100% capable of murdering her mother violently. She lived with a psychopath and must've sensed from him that he was a danger to her mom. We often see what we believe. Her belief that her dad did it speaks volumes :/
great perspective, makes total sense.
I agree.
Yes. Frightening when your kid just says, “yeah, dad could have killed her.”
@@The_ZeroLine Kids that age are still very intuitive. Their left hemispheres haven't taken over their responses yet. Their eyes (dad's and the killer's) probably looked the same to her bc they had that same soulless, empathy-less look that the eyes of sociopaths/psychopaths eyes can have. I know. I've looked into such eyes.
either that or the guy wore a hockey mask
Love your little fun video cut ins, ie life insurance being favourite. More of that please Mike. Great stuff, as always
And the hockey mask this time 😂
I remember he done a rock band scene “slayer” or something.. 🤟🏻🤟🏻😂😂😂
@@l15ora lol my friend 😄
15:27 💕💓👍
😂 the ending with the helmet!
I haven’t heard of that case before, what a disgusting and cruel father to not only have his wife so brutally killed, but to have his daughters so traumatised for life. 🤬
As a hockey player who loves true crime I have seen this story multiple times. But definitely down to hear this version!! Love the videos
Sad story for Kelley and her little ones. You’r man thought a lot of himself and look where it got him. Keep doing what you’r doing Mike. Absolutely brilliant!!! X
"You'r"?
That's one I've never seen before.
Your = belongs to you, yours.
You're = you are.
Zipit clown
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter - she didn’t add the “e” even if that’s what she was intending to write. My guess is she realized she was wrong and hit the backspace one time and just didn’t pay attention to the apostrophe. Also, autocorrect sometimes just adds in the wrong one and people don’t really notice. What’s the point in being a grammar nazi over an apostrophe? I promise there are a lot more comments with a lot more grammar mistakes than this one. 🤦🏻♀️
@@laurenrobbins2654 yeah, it was clearly a typo the writer started (but didn’t finish) to correct. My guess is they were tapping out a quick comment on a mobile device and didn’t proofread it carefully before posting because it’s a comment on a TH-cam video, not a f*cking PhD dissertation.
The body cam footage from that night includes the most horrible sound I have ever heard in my life. Her older sister arrives on-scene, and the sound she makes when she learns what happened... I will never, ever forget it. I have 2 younger sisters myself and I truly cannot even *begin* to imagine that kind of pain.
She and her husband are raising Kelley's kids and I am so glad that they are all together. The strength and love of that family is incredible. ❤
@Jessie you are so right. To hear Kim walling where's my sister, rips at anyone's heart. They are doing a beautiful job raising the kids and my understanding is that they are always keeping Kelley very much in their hearts, thoughts and prayers. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
I (27) have two younger sisters (25 and 7-turning-8). I literally could not imagine. I'm tearing up thinking about it 😞
I'm from Buffalo, NY, and you're dead right, Mike. This one really rocked that community.
There's nothing better than opening my TH-cam and the first thing I see is TC. I love your storytelling and it's a great way to start my day. Thanks Mike!! ✌️
Yay!!!! Thanks Mike, been looking forward to this all day!!
Appreciate all your hard work!
Hope you enjoy the video!!
We love your videos Mike!! 🥰🥰🥰
@@ThatChapter Epic video as always!
Thanks so much, absolutely love your channel ❤ 😍
Children are actually much more observant than we give them credit for. They notice things we don't, in fact. They're also brutally honest. That little girl's statement should never have been dismissed.
Agreed. But I'd say they feel it. Kids take in emotions. They can feel an argument. Kids can see through the curtains adults forcefully try to pull closed.
Kids see and hear everything! If you think you know what your kids know, multiple that times 10 and you might be closer to the truth!
Yeah and no , you can't really take the word of a child in a legal matter most of the time as they have a hard time putting memories together ( you could ask me and my sisters about something we all saw as kids and you will get 3 very different accounts)
Of course the child who witnessed a murder should be questioned and taken seriously.
THIS. They’re very smart. I have a 4 year old. She does not miss a trick. Ever.
@@speez71this! Kids pick up on energy very very well. They do not miss a trick and feelings are a big thing for them.
Mike!!!! So happy to see you again. Caught Covid and was feeling like death for 4 days. Finally feeling better today and this video just made me feel even better!
you lived, now you're stronger. don't be a tool waste money on covid booster shots after this.
Much love to you buddy
So you survived just like 99.9% of people have?
Glad you feel better! Covid is no joke!
@@vituperativedetritus3628 ive had it twice and have had blood clots on my lungs..thought id surley die.but um yea i didnt.
Thanks for all your hard work, Mike. The personality and the presentation are always amazing, but the research, the writing, the editing, you put out such a great product for us. Which we appreciate because.... we love ya.
15:00 Kids can be the worst witnesses because they don't think to remember things but when they do, in fact, remember things they remember EVERYTHING. The fact that she nailed him down by his shoes is f*cking awesome. She's a little badass.
I can’t believe the guy tried the classic “trust me bro” with the 9-1-1 operator like my guy just scream “I didn’t want her to survive” right in front of the cops.
Every time Mike says “ because I love ya” a little voice in my head says “I love ya too”. I appreciate you Mike 🙏
GOOD JOB bringing back the life insurance montage! Always add a bit of a comedic light touch to such tragic subjects.
Yay! Can’t be Friday without Mike, and can’t be Mike without “Giving it a goooo!”
💙💙💙💙
Have a great weekend Kimberly!
And a noooooo, it ended,Lol,good weekend to you✌🏻
And a dance into the weekend.
Ahhh! I was wondering if you were gonna do this case!!
Here in Elmira, this was a pretty big deal!
Quaint we ain't!
She was a really wonderful woman! Her two children are doing very well now.
I discovered your channel during the pandemic, and yet this is my first comment haha. You are truly the best true crime TH-camr out there! I always look forward to your videos and are playing in the background every time I do my makeup, the dishes, fold the laundry, and anything else. Thanks for bringing a humorous aspect to true crime all while respecting the lives of the victims. You're the best!! Once I'm not poor anymore I promise to support you more on Patreon 😅 sending hugs from Mexico
That little girl saw this behavior from her dad before. Though he didn’t kill the mother, the daughter knew dad could do it. She did a mental cut and paste of dad over the real killer.
That poor, sweet little baby girl. It had to have been absolute hell for both children, but that poor little girl SAW it ALL. What an absolute monster that sorry excuse of a man is.
Love the end clip and the shirt. Plaids looks good on you.
Essentially he wanted the house burnt down.
With both children inside
So do the aloha shirts. Mikey is a fashion icon 😎
@@nhmooytis7058 Yeah they do. 👌
@@tessaducek5601 This.
Mike you are just the best! I love the “life insurance” dance so much!! You have such a respectful way of telling these gruesome stories while honoring the victims and showing what toe-rags the perpetrators really are. Thank you!
So tragic. I never understand why some people never look at themselves for their own failings. Get over it... you're not the superstar you see in your head and the NHL didn't want you! He probably blamed his wife for every bad thing in his life. Thank you for such entertainment! You are hilarious, which seems inappropriate for such tragedy and yet absolutely perfect as you make fun of that creep! Great video!
Most of us have unachieved dreams, but we move forward with other goals. We certainly don’t hurt or kill other people because of disappointment.
I lived in Elmira when this happened, and frequented Woodhouse where Kelly worked. This entire case was heart wrenching💔💔
I have NEVER laughed so hard at an ad for a sponsor. Honestly, I usually FF right on through. I REWINDED and watched yours TWICE. Good job, Mike, well done. I’ve been a faithful follower/fan for a while now, you’re killing it. Keep being you, you’re awesome. You are your best asset. 💚💚💚
I love when they put something special into the sponsor’s ad. Check out the Jolly channel. Ollie is so creative and funny. No crime on the channel. They taste food, talk about Korea, and joke around.
You have to wonder how these people think they can get away with it, and how shallow their motives are.. $10k is not a lot, and nor is however much half of the business "Mr Hockey-star's" was worth... Especially when there's children involved.
It's nothing to scoff at, if it landed in my lap I'd be elated. But to be killed for that?? At least with the horrible people who kill for millions, as awful as it is you can imagine how anyone so callous could try to justify it.
If someone killed me over 10 grand I would haunt the ever loving shit out of them.
I guess there’s a reason that’s gambling is said to be one of the most deadly addictions
@@cheepymcpeepy 10k is barely a years rent. ... It's nothing essentially.
@@lawfullucyless6715 Totally agree. Congrats on an excelllent handle, btw!
@@CantTellYou seriously. I noticed it comes up a lot on this channel
If you've ever watched Mike on mute he looks like a hilarious mad man.
Had a phone call and watched this the first time on mute and it's hilarious. .his animated story telling is a delight to observe
💖thanks for being you Mike 💖
😂🤣 You know I had to do it, mute. It is hysterical!
Team Mike on Mute here too... bonus channel points for sure
oh my goodness you're right
I love it that Mike is animated. Makes the story more alive.... uh... or dead... lol
Yeah really cheered me up cause all this stuff kept going on and Im determined to watch this episode of it kills me lol cause watching him on mute just melted my heart lol💘
That's so chilling that Charlie thought it looked like her dad. It goes to show that perhaps even subconsciously she was aware of what he was capable of 😵
It was him. She knows her dads eyes
The life insurance dance is priceless. Mike is the best thing on TH-cam, period!
Makes me laugh too
I forget the song
I requested this case, as I moved to Elmira just after it happened and wanted to see how you would cover it. Thank you for bringing attention to it-- I've heard tons about Kelley, and her loss is still felt in town years later 💜💜💜
Went to Elmira College
Love the Purple Hearts. Is that for EC colors?
@@stevelawrence6376 It's the color for the DV Awareness ribbon, and it's been used in all of the Justice for Kelley events/fundraisers 💜
THIS channel has messed with my head..I saw an ad for life insurance the other day..and the little girl smiled at her mum as she arranged her life insurance....and I got chills!😨
Too funny 👌💯🤣🤣🤣
Happy Anniversary Mike!! Great job..
What the hell,?!!,I thought you were still talking about the freaking case,Nuh uh,security, Great timing for product / Sponsor,insert😂😂😂😂love love love it…. Great case, never heard of it, you have made my Friday king Mike😇✌🏻💕
My heart absolutely goes out to the children! Especially to Charlie! She most certainly did NOT need to witness that! Shame on both Michael and especially Tom for that!
Yeah I was wondering about the eyes the whole time.
I wonder if it was because the man arrived in the same car she had just seen her dad leave in?
Like maybe she didn't really see his eyes in the terror and confusion, just made an assumption and extrapolated.
Poor little mite. But what a brave girl to stay with her little brother. She's gonna do great things
I loooooooove this channel 💛 I’m currently waiting for a back surgery for dislocated disk and since I can’t really move around much,this channel has been my buddy to keep me entertained and distract me from the pain
Keep it up !! Love from Europe
It never ceases to amaze me that Mike has unlimited material for couples who would rather commit murder than get a divorce. It’s mind boggling how ugly marriage can end; thanks Mike!
When my marriage took a nosedive and I knew I wanted to leave for sure, I asked for a divorce. Hardest thing I've ever had to do, but my mind never for a second went to murder. That poor babygirl.
it's not that this dude would rather kill than get a divorce, I think it's more that he'd rather kill than not get a million dollar insurance policy...and we have unlimited material for those kind of couples as well don't we. lol.
@@beth4928 seriously why would you. it's so extra. I'm way too lazy for all that. rather just pop by the courthouse and wave bye. and get 50-50 custody of these kids because I'm not doing all this alone. hell no. I think you have to have some kind of very deep seated anger for your spouse and also be batshit insane to kill them. especially when they're helping you raise a kid... I wouldn't want to take on the job of raising my kids solo for all the money in the world. it's way too hard. I HAVE to have help from their father. so I need him alive and kicking for that.
@@Janellabelle unfortunately the sad case is that because of human nature there will always be murderers hidden everywhere until they strike.
@@mememan2344 you're right! it really doesn't matter what you do or don't do or what your circumstances are. there's always gonna be someone out there that will kill you simply because they want to and you exist in the wrong place at the wrong time. that's all it takes. Eliza Fletcher was just kidnapped and killed here where I live, Memphis, and I was just thinking about that. she was on her morning run, minding her business. dude saw her, decided her felt like killing that day, so he did. then tossed her body in the dumpster down the road from his brother's house about a mile, and continued on with his day. that's all it takes for your life to be over forever and you're just be dust in the wind and a memory and they get to keep living. living in prison 47% of the time, since 47% of murders are solved (in the USA), or a 53% chance of not in prison...nope, just going around with life like nothing ever happened...and your death doesn't even get avenged. you just turn to dirt and your murderer gets to go on with their life. It's very depressing. I imagine it's hard to believe in god anymore for victim's families of unsolved (and solved!) murders.
....I have to stop watching so much true crime.
Mike! Great video and thank you for including the full life insurance clip/diddy at ~ 15:41. As always, great job, mate! Thanks for all you do!
You were in fine form for this one Mike! Also, how chilling is it to hear the child say "He looked like my Dad".
I really enjoy Mike's videos. He had a way of being funny while still being respectful of the victims and their families. And he is not afraid to call the perps what they are!! Keep it up sir
This man had everything that a normal person would want in his life; a beautiful & supportive wife, two wonderful kids, a successful business, and a happy home, but he had to throw it all away. Men can be such dicks at times. Hope he languishes in prison for the rest of his life & then in hell. RIP Kelley!
Gambling debts? Womanizing? The only thing missing is alcohol & drugs.
So can women. For example Lori Daybell. Being a dick is not solely a man’s issue.
I dont feel as bad for women who like the bad boys :P
YA HAD IT COMING
@@scorch4299 victim blaming? How original, clearly you are not like other guys.
Mike, you are such a hard worker. Never disappoint.
Never take long hiatuses. Not that you don’t deserve them.
Reliable & fantastic uploads every time. Thank you!
Such a sweet endearing messge of gratitude God bless you ✨☘️🙏
Mike, you are a wonderful presenter and it’s evident how much research you do. You always take us on the journey from the end of the story and back to the beginning. We come to know the victims and feel deeply for them and their loved ones. Thank you.
It just boggles my mind that people think it's a good idea to raise an insurance policy and murder someone close to you. Then to do it in front of your children! You have to be a heartless predator. Disgusting.