Tom, I cried when I heard of the death of your female blue tree monitor. They are my dream animal. I'm so sorry about the break in and losses that resulted. I hope they are caught and prosecuted.
This is incredible. I love Tom's confidence with his animals. You can see that his calm demeanor transfers to his snakes. Those are some very happy critters.
It’s too bad that some scumbags stole his crock monitors killed and let out all the other animals on holloween this video should of been about that to get the word out
The greatest statement ever made about animals Is with no doubt "It's only wen the keeper and the kept lose all fear of one another, is wen the magic can begin." You sir Mr. Crutchfield are truly a genius of the reptile world thank you and please make more videos your knowledge is so badly needed
Mei Mei is happy viper, she is satisfied with how she is treated and that her needs for food and living quarters and enrichment are met. The is why she is such a well behaved girl.
I'm not quite sure what happened but it doesn't sound good. I hope no reptiles/animals were taken and I do hope whomever is responsible is caught very soon.
Mei Mei is such a beautiful viper and so obedient. When she was sitting on the cart, she would bring her head very close to you, but politely because you could tell from her bod language. Great job taming & socializing this animal when so many people can't do that successfully as you have Tom..!!
Mei Mei is soooo beautiful and what a sweetheart. ❤️❤️ her. How long has she been with you? I don’t exactly know what happened at your place (I’m a brand new subscriber) but I gather it was pretty awful 😣😡 I ❤️❤️ the Mangshans and am impressed how chill most of yours are. That enclosure is absolutely awesome! Here’s hoping that you can get eggs soon! The species needs dedicated , caring and expert breeders like you! I’m hoping that they survive in the wild but the limited range and continued poaching (🤬!!) is very concerning. Keep up the good work 👍👍 Always good to see someone of “my generation”(I’m 67) living the dream 🙂🙂🐍🐍🦎🦎🐊🐊
No wonder your mangshan's so chill. You provided Him a bigger home. Even though snakes don't move much, a bigger room let's him move thus keeping him more enthusiastic and not feeling cornered
I wish more people had respect to what legends Tom, Kevin from nerd, Brian, etc. are..... I have the utmost respect for You guys and that mang is extremely beautiful. Also I wanted to apologize for what happened at your farm Tom, I hope you find those priks and they are prosecuted to the fullest extent.
The damage it could have caused to the Florida reptile community had they succeeded in letting all your monitors escape would have been awful. Those guys need to be dragged out to a field and........ well ya know. Anyways Tom I’m sorry again I hope all is well
Wow, thank you! It is the creatures that live here that come first..I'd really love to get Jimi back...She is a pet that is loved..She lived here the last 8 years...thank you
I am so so happy that even though they busted open the doors on all the adult croc monitors and Cyclura NOT a single one ran away..If they were treated badly or even if they were scared some would have left here..None did except the ones stolen.. Another good reason to keep fewer creatures better.!!!!
Wow. Good Bless. Incredible they all just stayed in. At least that gone good. It's just awefull! I not wish bad on People easy. But this kind of Abusers. They shall get Bitten to the Bone and fall nasty sick with it. Still hoping on good news for the Abducted..
@@TomCrutchfield1 That’s incredible! I hadn’t realised that had happened. Gosh I don’t know what these people are thinking and hoping to achieve. Did you get any of the animals taken back and/or find the people who took them? Two things you don’t mess with: animals and children! Low life pond scum is too kind a category for them Tom😔❤️
There are a lot of reptile keepers/enthusiasts/educators out there, but in my opinion Mr. Crutchfield is the expert keeper/educational ambassador for these animals. I always have a deeper appreciation for reptiles and gain so much information from watching these videos. Thanks so much for sharing about the Mangshan, my favorite viper.
Tom , it is always a joy to watch your videos . Knowing that all the people that know lots about snakes and reptiles are watch the King of reptiles . Your the Elvis of reptiles .
Tom I love Mei Mei she is amazingly gorgeous and just so calm. Your calmness, the way you show love and care really shows in your babies. I’m praying for all of you. Take care!❤️🤍💙🙏💙🤍❤️
You are one of the wisest TH-camrs in the herp world! A careless or overconfident keeper is a dead keeper. Respect the way nature made them, and you will both live long lives in harmony.🐍💗
Another great narrative, Tom! Mangs might be the most beautiful snakes! So sorry to hear about those terrible people that broke onto your property and opened enclosures. You’re in our thoughts and prayers in Kansas! Hope you are able to get them all back!
I can't get over how beautiful these animals are, this is the image that the world needs to see, that sense of feeling safe makes them curious like you said. And that habitat is unbelievable allowing them to get sun which is paramount and the amount of room they have to slither & climb .... man.... O....man.. I wish I could come over.👍💪🙏
These are so beautiful! They remind me of moss tree frogs! And they are more sentient beings with personalities like anacondas have. They seem so happy there.💚
Tom you always seem to have the most beautiful and unique reptiles that I would never knew existed if it were not for your videos. This is such a beautiful viper who is wearing my favorite color. I have a new favorite viper although I love them all. Thank you for not only sharing your knowledge and reptiles with us BUT also breeding and making sure these beautiful creatures live on through all of man's destruction. ♡
Really an amazing animal, it has totally adapted to live on the mossy ground of it's range. Also maybe mangshangs are probably the most tame viper species.
that is the most beautiful species I've ever seen. I've been a huge fan of reptiles and herp conservation since I was in high school about 25 years ago but I've only recently found out about the Mangshan. envious brother!
Hi Tom, I love seeing you talk about your Mangshans and I also love seeing Mai Mai (sp) out of her cage. She is the most polite house guest when she comes out to see you. I was reading a report on the species today (undoubtedly one you have read) from 2020. It discussed the way a team had managed to conduct a study to estimate numbers of Mangshan living in the Hunan Reserve over a period of 5 years including seasonal variations of habitat from optimal shrub/tree/herb height, floor cover, tree height, density etc to refugia requirements to perturb behaviours and prevent stress. It was such a good read and extremely useful for people wanting to recreate the optimum environment for captive Mangshan and also in ensuring their natural habitat is protected. Asides from having an actual stream running through your enclosures you have it down to T Tom!!! 👌(I’m not suggesting you install a stream by the way!!😂) You mentioned that you change things out in their enclosures every so often. I wondered whether you do that in line with the seasons in an attempt to tip them over ‘naturally’ into breeding as well as other natural behaviours etc? I have everything crossed for you that you have success with their breeding very soon and will be watching closely to hopefully hear when that happens!!🙏🏼 It looks like you will be successful I’m sure👌Best wishes from Brisbane, Amanda👋
I love the word of wisdom "it's only when the keeper and the kept lose the fear of each other is when the magical of understanding begins" I so hope u have good luck next year in breeding these beautiful animals. The size of the venom glands on mei mei is crazy and when feeding that chick u proved your point that she is nice an settled with humans but bring a chick into the mix and she turns into a completely different girl. I wish u all the best in your future endeavors with this amazing specie's. You really are a reptile Whisperer. Can't wait till your next video.
Tom I am so sorry about your break in . I have so much respect for you and all your workers and all your beautiful animals. Would love to visit and meet you someday. I been watching you for a few years . Love your stories and adventures.God Bless you and Wishing you a better year ahead . An far away admirer Januari 🦋
Mangs are my 2nd favorite snakes I think u are an amazing person with your animals and love how big there cage is. Your mangs all look beautiful thanks for the info and the video
This was a great video ! I didn't even see the strike the first time I watched the chick get tagged.. That was super fast strike.. Thanks for sharing Great educational content with us.. Let's go, BRANDON !
Tom, you are a legend! These are beautiful snakes very exotic looking. I am sorry to hear about the vandalism and the lose of your animal. I hope you have a camera system set up that had video so the police can get them. If you don’t, I would highly recommend getting a security setup with cameras. It’s getting pretty cheap.
Amazing Species of viper that u have ,,,,, Huge venom glands i see ,, what a huge yield huh ,,, well what another amazing species that u have and thanks for sharing.
Mei Mei looks like the gentlest snake I have ever seen... Don´t get me wrong I know she could probably kill me in one strike if I scared her or something but still. What an absolute lady.
This is by far 1 of my top favorite snakes along with the Twig Snake of Africa. Thx a bunch for this highly informative video. I hope all is well with yall 🙏
i would love one of these, but i could never go venomous.... I kiss my snakes too much lol. Such wonderful creatures, such basic/true desires they have. They truly are not out to get anyone, they just want to live. People could learn a great deal from them.
morning #TomCrutchfield you have a very "curious" not docile to say the least,😒☝️ yet super intelligent viper in your care today. MeiMei,im noticing she,has no fear of you,the camera person(and i know that camera is giving off all kinds of emt,radiated heat that she feel from it)MeiMei knows shes the Apex,the Queen of this room. shes gliding gracefully from one end of her box,flicking her tongue,tilting her head from side to side,listening to Everything in that room. youve had,her for 10 years? thats incredible 😲just so calm and elegant. are you planning on breeding her if the tome comes? or you think she,might be too old to be looking forward to that husbandry 😥
I am so sry tom for what happened to you and your animals those people so be ashamed and disgusted with themselves u are so kind and know your animals I'm so sry for your loss
I don’t personally agree with keeping any animals in cages of any sort except where that animal is an endangered species so Tom, your work is incredibly important. On top of attempting to breed, all of this information that you are collating and recording I’m sure is also extremely vital in the fight to keep these beautiful snakes alive. Stay safe, Much love from Brisbane Australia💜
Some animals needs to be in captive or else they could go extinct , and I doubt a snake would care if they are in captivity especially if the environment is set perfectly for them
What about those we need for med and science research? Or for farms and food? What would we do with the breeds we created and domesticated who cant survive in wild?
Tom, I cried when I heard of the death of your female blue tree monitor. They are my dream animal. I'm so sorry about the break in and losses that resulted. I hope they are caught and prosecuted.
I completely agree. I hope the a**holes are caught!!
I didn't cry, but I got pissed
This is incredible. I love Tom's confidence with his animals. You can see that his calm demeanor transfers to his snakes. Those are some very happy critters.
That's a man true to the game.. thumbs up 👍🏿👍🏿
Yep... if I were a "critter" I would definitely want to be in Tom's care... LOL. ;)
It’s too bad that some scumbags stole his crock monitors killed and let out all the other animals on holloween this video should of been about that to get the word out
The greatest statement ever made about animals Is with no doubt "It's only wen the keeper and the kept lose all fear of one another, is wen the magic can begin." You sir Mr. Crutchfield are truly a genius of the reptile world thank you and please make more videos your knowledge is so badly needed
thanks for the kind words mate
Mei Mei is happy viper, she is satisfied with how she is treated and that her needs for food and living quarters and enrichment are met. The is why she is such a well behaved girl.
Sorry about the break in man, hope you catch them. I can’t believe that happened
anyone who would do that is a monster. God deals with monsters.
@@JustMe-gv7ex amen to that 🙏
I'm not quite sure what happened but it doesn't sound good. I hope no reptiles/animals were taken and I do hope whomever is responsible is caught very soon.
@@5954ldydi one was killed
@@jprizzle2604 Thank you for replying. That is absolutely terrible news. Praying the person/people get caught very soon.
Mei Mei is such a beautiful viper and so obedient. When she was sitting on the cart, she would bring her head very close to you, but politely because you could tell from her bod language. Great job taming & socializing this animal when so many people can't do that successfully as you have Tom..!!
What a beautiful gentle snake. Thanks!
I come from Brian barzaks channel hope you find the a holes that brocken in :)
Incredible Tom and you can keep this species of snake from going extinct especially their small range in China.
What a beautiful cryptic camo pattern. That snake would disappear almost anywhere almost reminds me of an arboreal bushmaster.
Mei Mei is soooo beautiful and what a sweetheart. ❤️❤️ her. How long has she been with you? I don’t exactly know what happened at your place (I’m a brand new subscriber) but I gather it was pretty awful 😣😡 I ❤️❤️ the Mangshans and am impressed how chill most of yours are. That enclosure is absolutely awesome! Here’s hoping that you can get eggs soon! The species needs dedicated , caring and expert breeders like you! I’m hoping that they survive in the wild but the limited range and continued poaching (🤬!!) is very concerning. Keep up the good work 👍👍 Always good to see someone of “my generation”(I’m 67) living the dream 🙂🙂🐍🐍🦎🦎🐊🐊
I’m 60 and I feel the same way!!
No wonder your mangshan's so chill. You provided Him a bigger home. Even though snakes don't move much, a bigger room let's him move thus keeping him more enthusiastic and not feeling cornered
I wish more people had respect to what legends Tom, Kevin from nerd, Brian, etc. are..... I have the utmost respect for
You guys and that mang is extremely beautiful. Also I wanted to apologize for what happened at your farm Tom, I hope you find those priks and they are prosecuted to the fullest extent.
The damage it could have caused to the Florida reptile community had they succeeded in letting all your monitors escape would have been awful. Those guys need to be dragged out to a field and........ well ya know. Anyways Tom I’m sorry again I hope all is well
Wow, thank you! It is the creatures that live here that come first..I'd really love to get Jimi back...She is a pet that is loved..She lived here the last 8 years...thank you
I am so so happy that even though they busted open the doors on all the adult croc monitors and Cyclura NOT a single one ran away..If they were treated badly or even if they were scared some would have left here..None did except the ones stolen.. Another good reason to keep fewer creatures better.!!!!
Wow. Good Bless. Incredible they all just stayed in. At least that gone good.
It's just awefull! I not wish bad on People easy. But this kind of Abusers. They shall get Bitten to the Bone and fall nasty sick with it.
Still hoping on good news for the Abducted..
@@TomCrutchfield1 That’s incredible! I hadn’t realised that had happened. Gosh I don’t know what these people are thinking and hoping to achieve. Did you get any of the animals taken back and/or find the people who took them? Two things you don’t mess with: animals and children! Low life pond scum is too kind a category for them Tom😔❤️
There are a lot of reptile keepers/enthusiasts/educators out there, but in my opinion Mr. Crutchfield is the expert keeper/educational ambassador for these animals. I always have a deeper appreciation for reptiles and gain so much information from watching these videos. Thanks so much for sharing about the Mangshan, my favorite viper.
Yes yes yes Tom is back on TH-cam omg this just made my day week life for real love you Tom can't wait to meet you one day
Always nice to see a Tom Crutchfield video on the feed!
Tom , it is always a joy to watch your videos . Knowing that all the people that know lots about snakes and reptiles are watch the King of reptiles . Your the Elvis of reptiles .
You sir are the OG in venomous snake handling
Geez Tom. What a beauty. She is in good hands. Calm also and you can sense the intelligence. Just a wow creature.
This was an amazing video, what a beautiful snake, so incredible. The display of care and understanding in this video from Tom is incredible.
Excellent video Tom. I was sorry to hear of the incident at your place and the loss of an animal. Very sad indeed.
This is by far the most beautiful snake I have ever seen in my life.. I have watched ever video you have put out on this snake. They are truly amazing
These have to be one of the coolest looking vipers on the whole planet
Wow she's beautiful
It's amazing how gentle the snake was that Mr. Crutchfield handled and how well-maintained the cages were. I learned a lot. Thank you.
Tom I love Mei Mei she is amazingly gorgeous and just so calm. Your calmness, the way you show love and care really shows in your babies. I’m praying for all of you. Take care!❤️🤍💙🙏💙🤍❤️
That strike range to get the quail was incredible
Hat's off to you Mr. Crutchfield. That takes a lot of work
Besides a gaboon and a king this is my 3rd dream snake. I'd love to keep one someday.
You are one of the wisest TH-camrs in the herp world! A careless or overconfident keeper is a dead keeper. Respect the way nature made them, and you will both live long lives in harmony.🐍💗
Another great narrative, Tom! Mangs might be the most beautiful snakes!
So sorry to hear about those terrible people that broke onto your property and opened enclosures. You’re in our thoughts and prayers in Kansas! Hope you are able to get them all back!
Man, that snake is beautiful..
I love how big they get, so cool!
Wow!! Them mangshan vipers are living a great life, what a fantastic environment. 💪💪🙏
I truly enjoy your content and the example of what the size of a cage should be.
That's for sure! If I were a reptile/animal I'd definitely want to be in Tom's care... LOL. ;)
She’s such a beauty. There’s nobody on earth I believe more about handling snakes than you Sir. You are a legend.
my favourite snake the colour is fantastic i love watching your videeos so much knowledge and explained so even a novice can understand
I can't get over how beautiful these animals are, this is the image that the world needs to see, that sense of feeling safe makes them curious like you said. And that habitat is unbelievable allowing them to get sun which is paramount and the amount of room they have to slither & climb .... man.... O....man.. I wish I could come over.👍💪🙏
Awesome love to learn about these amazing creatures! Hands down the most beautiful snake on Gods green earth
Can't watch the live feed but Thank you for sharing her with us!!
These are so beautiful! They remind me of moss tree frogs! And they are more sentient beings with personalities like anacondas have. They seem so happy there.💚
I can’t get over that massive head! What a beauty!!
She is so pretty thanks for making a video of her.
Tom this is my favorite type of snake thank you so much for showing up this big beautiful snake!!
Tom you always seem to have the most beautiful and unique reptiles that I would never knew existed if it were not for your videos. This is such a beautiful viper who is wearing my favorite color. I have a new favorite viper although I love them all. Thank you for not only sharing your knowledge and reptiles with us BUT also breeding and making sure these beautiful creatures live on through all of man's destruction. ♡
One Of My Favorite Species! 👊
Really an amazing animal, it has totally adapted to live on the mossy ground of it's range. Also maybe mangshangs are probably the most tame viper species.
Beautiful mangshan vipers. I love your videos. I always learn something from you. Thanks for sharing.
She is so beautiful 💖
Thankyou Tom for sharing with us. You are a fountain of knowledge. Thankyou for everything you have done for the hobby.
Amazing! Mangs are my favorite viper
The markings/patterns and colors of this viper are amazing. What a beautiful pit viper
This has turned out to be my fav snake there is it’s gorgeous
Those are some incredible markings !!! 😲💕
She is absolutely beautiful Tom ❤️ thank you for sharing and I do hope you find who took your animals!
Mei Mei is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!! XXXX
Tom is a legend... one of the very best at any reptile... very intellagent man.... beautiful vipers... be safe and much love from kentucky..
amazing work !! sorry to hear about the break in man ..
that is the most beautiful species I've ever seen. I've been a huge fan of reptiles and herp conservation since I was in high school about 25 years ago but I've only recently found out about the Mangshan. envious brother!
Hi Tom, I love seeing you talk about your Mangshans and I also love seeing Mai Mai (sp) out of her cage. She is the most polite house guest when she comes out to see you.
I was reading a report on the species today (undoubtedly one you have read) from 2020. It discussed the way a team had managed to conduct a study to estimate numbers of Mangshan living in the Hunan Reserve over a period of 5 years including seasonal variations of habitat from optimal shrub/tree/herb height, floor cover, tree height, density etc to refugia requirements to perturb behaviours and prevent stress. It was such a good read and extremely useful for people wanting to recreate the optimum environment for captive Mangshan and also in ensuring their natural habitat is protected. Asides from having an actual stream running through your enclosures you have it down to T Tom!!! 👌(I’m not suggesting you install a stream by the way!!😂)
You mentioned that you change things out in their enclosures every so often. I wondered whether you do that in line with the seasons in an attempt to tip them over ‘naturally’ into breeding as well as other natural behaviours etc?
I have everything crossed for you that you have success with their breeding very soon and will be watching closely to hopefully hear when that happens!!🙏🏼 It looks like you will be successful I’m sure👌Best wishes from Brisbane, Amanda👋
Thanks Tom! Beautiful Snakes and fantastic video! Thanks for sharing.
Just recently became aware of this viper. What a beautiful, wild-looking, and mild-manered green beast.
Absolutely amazing snakes. One of my favorite species. You are a legend Tom. Love your videos.
I love the word of wisdom "it's only when the keeper and the kept lose the fear of each other is when the magical of understanding begins" I so hope u have good luck next year in breeding these beautiful animals. The size of the venom glands on mei mei is crazy and when feeding that chick u proved your point that she is nice an settled with humans but bring a chick into the mix and she turns into a completely different girl. I wish u all the best in your future endeavors with this amazing specie's. You really are a reptile Whisperer. Can't wait till your next video.
the colours and markings on the snake are just stunning
What gorgeous snakes. Thanks for the information, I like learning about the different species of snakes as well as all the reptiles. 🙂❤
Tom I am so sorry about your break in . I have so much respect for you and all your workers and all your beautiful animals. Would love to visit and meet you someday. I been watching you for a few years . Love your stories and adventures.God Bless you and Wishing you a better year ahead . An far away admirer Januari 🦋
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Thanks tom you always show us cool animals i didn't even know existed!
This is the first time I have ever seen or heard of this species, amazing it's beautiful love the colors!
I wish he posted more ! Amazing video ❤️
Mangs are my 2nd favorite snakes I think u are an amazing person with your animals and love how big there cage is. Your mangs all look beautiful thanks for the info and the video
Thank you so much!
Tom we love you and we hope you and your animals get justice. Sending love
Tom she is gorgeous and so sweet, you're a lucky man to have such a wonderful snake. Thanks for sharing this with all us 😊
Just a stunning animal tom .. Amazing work
This was a great video ! I didn't even see the strike the first time I watched the chick get tagged.. That was super fast strike.. Thanks for sharing Great educational content with us..
Let's go, BRANDON !
Tom, you are a legend! These are beautiful snakes very exotic looking. I am sorry to hear about the vandalism and the lose of your animal. I hope you have a camera system set up that had video so the police can get them. If you don’t, I would highly recommend getting a security setup with cameras. It’s getting pretty cheap.
Amazing Species of viper that u have ,,,,, Huge venom glands i see ,, what a huge yield huh ,,, well what another amazing species that u have and thanks for sharing.
Thank you Tom, I really enjoy your videos and I always learn something.
Sweet. Glad to see you back on video.
Mangshan Vipers is one of, if not the most beautiful snakes there is. 🐍
Mr Crutchfield the Word is out from coast to coast...
Mei Mei looks like the gentlest snake I have ever seen... Don´t get me wrong I know she could probably kill me in one strike if I scared her or something but still. What an absolute lady.
Man, that is a gorgeous snake!
Mangshan vipers are such a beautiful 🐍🐍🐍
Awesome snakes! Please let us know if you get babies and thank you for loving them!
This is by far 1 of my top favorite snakes along with the Twig Snake of Africa. Thx a bunch for this highly informative video. I hope all is well with yall 🙏
She is beautiful!
I was sorry to hear about the break in. I hope every is good now.
I swear i could hear Toms voice trembling but man hes got some stones 😳
Love these snake 🐍 😍 . The green colors are amazing.
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i would love one of these, but i could never go venomous.... I kiss my snakes too much lol. Such wonderful creatures, such basic/true desires they have. They truly are not out to get anyone, they just want to live. People could learn a great deal from them.
What a gorgeous girl, with such a lovely temperament, like Dingo's Marshmellow!
morning #TomCrutchfield
you have a very "curious" not docile to say the least,😒☝️ yet super intelligent viper in your care today. MeiMei,im noticing she,has no fear of you,the camera person(and i know that camera is giving off all kinds of emt,radiated heat that she feel from it)MeiMei knows shes the Apex,the Queen of this room. shes gliding gracefully from one end of her box,flicking her tongue,tilting her head from side to side,listening to Everything in that room. youve had,her for 10 years? thats incredible 😲just so calm and elegant. are you planning on breeding her if the tome comes? or you think she,might be too old to be looking forward to that husbandry 😥
Mei Mei would never ever bite me>!! She has been with me since she hatched 13 years ago...thanks
@@TomCrutchfield1 hmm i didnt point out she would bite you 😕i only asked: will you bred her one day?
@@jebVlogs556 oh yes if she chooses to breed. She lives with 2.2 adults in an 18'x5'x8' high habitat...My guess is they live at least 25-35 years
I am so sry tom for what happened to you and your animals those people so be ashamed and disgusted with themselves u are so kind and know your animals I'm so sry for your loss
I’m envious Tom!
Absolutely beautiful snakes. 🐍
I don’t personally agree with keeping any animals in cages of any sort except where that animal is an endangered species so Tom, your work is incredibly important. On top of attempting to breed, all of this information that you are collating and recording I’m sure is also extremely vital in the fight to keep these beautiful snakes alive. Stay safe, Much love from Brisbane Australia💜
Some animals needs to be in captive or else they could go extinct , and I doubt a snake would care if they are in captivity especially if the environment is set perfectly for them
What about those we need for med and science research? Or for farms and food? What would we do with the breeds we created and domesticated who cant survive in wild?
So sorry to hear about what happened at your place. Hopefully whomever did it will be caught.
I always fed my snake live prey. I liked that he was in touch with his instincts
Great video on a truly majestic snake Absolutely beautiful !
I thought the Gaboon Viper released more venom?