The one thing I like is that they still have web interface for managing the device directly. Having to buy another device to configure the device, no thanks. I tried unifi a few years back. It worked for about 4 months and then went down hill. After two months of trying to fix it, removed it and went back to my Cisco SG2xx/3xx switches. Network completely stable. I ended up getting Grandstream WAPS and they have been working without issues for 4 years now. I don't mind mixing up when I can save money and/or have good product. Just ordered the TL-GS3219X-M2 switch to have a faster backbone for some of my equipment. Well, that is my 2 cents, for what it is worth.
Great video Mike. Networks are criminally overlooked.....there are some great solutions out there which would improve even a home network considerably. Thanks for sharing mate 🙂
@@UltimateTechHub It's my day job. Tbh, home networking will get more and more "needed" especially as 802.3bt equipment increases Theoretically, you could power up your laptop or even a TV through an ethernet port, if both ends support 802.3bt and the power is less than 90W My own TV pulls 80w, and newer downgraded harsher EPC ratings means companies are forced to compete on efficiency, yet again which should also be interesting.
Mike, love your review of this hardware. Would like to see a step by step explanation of each piece in action, how to use it & explain the whole functionality of the system! Thanks!
Hey Mike... I just bought the VPN Router for my basic internet security. So far so good. Great review by the way. See you on MUB's Saturday night stream? Take care. Cheers
Awesome! Enjoy the VPN router it's fantastic especially for the 59 dollar price tag! I will do more videos on each of these devices. See you tomorrow on MUBs. Cheers!
I've been searching and searching for high level knowledge like this for days. I'm so happy I found someone who will just tell it how it is. +1 subscriber
I am currently using an all Unbiquiti Unifi system, but I am becoming frustrated at some of the availability of hardware, and also some of the slightly weird software bugs. I also have an old USG Pro that needs replacing as it is not keeping up. I am using a SOHO network, with 3 VLANS - Main, Camera and Guest, with possibly wanting to add another VLAN for IoT. The Guest network has a landing page, but is free access. Would it be better to look at the Omada, given the price of just updating the USG Pro ?
Omada is pretty easy to use and setup and the price is cheaper than Ubiquiti but you already have a Unifi system so I would update the USG pro. It just makes more sense and I don't want you to spend more money than you have to. If you plan on selling the Unifi system then yes get an Omada system you won't regret it. Thank you for watching.
Why are you using a 1g switch with a 2.5g accespoint? This way you are not fully using the ap speeds right? I'm also looking for a omada setup but looking for the (ER707-M2 router, this way i have a 2.5g uplink to a 2.5g switch if needed)
With SDN its basically using the controller combined with app and no cloud needed. As you know the controller is not necessary since you PC/Server does the same thing. Also MAC has an App for Omada. Hope this answers your questions. By the way I prefer not using the Cloud to run the hardware but I'm old school!! Lol
I run from cloud hosting or dependencies. I’m also watching Microsoft actions, new OS and other software… you do not own. Anything created with their software.. they get a copy. (Spreadsheets, Word docs, received Word docs Even, etc. They threw money at Linux Consortium way back, now on board, embedding softeare that is increasingly showing up in many Distros. Do not be shocked if they close down 6 months plus out. I have a program that removes all their imbedded software in all Linux distros I use. Quantum internet will roll out and replace current internet. That will have hundreds of benefits. I used internet while it was being built. (Showing age!) lol. It’s time for huge change in that entire arena. I’m looking forward to leveraging the new internet features! Disabled and forced retired, I still get involved with huge projects for free. I need to describe my network environment and have you guide me to set it up properly. That is not my area of expertise. I would be humbled! I am setting up for humanitarian projects in USA and abroad. Many opportunities coming! Position yourself to leverage that. Can you assist me?
so I have been looking for a solution to be able to connect both of our homes with a site to site VPN and I believe after watching your video this might be the best solution. We currently have Deco X 50 routers in both homes. I am guessing that I could switch those to function as access points while connecting them to this router at which point both of the VPN routers would be talking to each other for a site to site connection. Am I on the right track? Thanks.
I have basic home network requirements and have a low level of computer technical knowledge. I have drafted a network diagram that starts with a ER7206 -Omada Gigabit VPN Router, connecting to a TL-SG1210MP unmanaged switch (chosen for simplicity) and finally a DEco X50-PoE V2. I can share the diagram but not sure how to attach. My question is in this construct would I benefit from the implementation of an Omada Controller? And if I don't have a Omada Controller what would I be missing out on? Keen to hear your thoughts.
Hey Mike, it's a great video, I have ER605 v2 working very well however I'm not able to update the firmware so, I can't add on Omada smartphone app, do you have any suggestion on how to fix it?
great video, I just wonder would you be able to use full potential of the EAP 670? as you know it is 2.5G , but the switch and router are not! I'm looking for the same setup for my large house and the EAP 670 seems to be much more stronger and more antenna compare to EAP 610.
Hi, I already have two Tp-Link Omada EAP 650, one of them is fully wired and I wanted to add the second one with the mesh capability, but I haven’t figured out how to do it. Do I need to buy the Omadada controller to create the mesh or I can do it only with the Omada app? I’m a Mac user so there is no chance I could install the Omada software. Can you point me to the right direction on what I need to setup the mesh network?
It might slow your network down but I doubt you would even notice it. It also depends on the server you connect but I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks for watching!
What I don't like about the AP is that it is too big for my taste as it stand up as soar thumb wherever you put it. Besides, my possible new home which all wired with Cat5e does not have any place on the ceiling where those types of APs will not look so bad. Great educational video and thank you for it.
Look into the EAP615; it's a rectangular shape wall-mount AP. Otherwise, wireless routers might look better sitting on a shelf or something similar; most can be set to AP mode.
Great video. Instead of this switch, can we use TP-Link TL-SG1218MPE | 16 Port Gigabit PoE Switch | Easy Smart Managed | 16 PoE+ Ports? Would it serve the same purpose?
Good day. Looking to create a better network at home. Would you still recommend the omada system? Is my verizon router necessary? If so what would you recommend today to replace the verizon router with?
Mike. Question 1: Do you always need to buy the VPN Router as the first device from the internet? Or is there another way to do a firewall directly to a Switch? Question 2. I was contemplating Going FANLESS and that leaves smaller POE routers for that task for cameras and POE access points. i could still get a 24-28 port fanless Switch with 10GB SFP+ ports for future upgrades. From the switch, connect a 8-10 port POE fanless routers for POE cameras and Access Points. Would that work, or does that slow things down being one more line down in the chain? Whats your thoughts on another recommended system and parts along that route?
You can buy a regular wireless router if you want. Regular routers have a firewalls built in. Yes, you need the router to be the first device in the chain. Then the switch after that. POE switches and routers are usually fan less and you can connect another switch to a another switch without seeing any type of slowdowns. Netgear and ASUS make fantastic routers with VPNs available as well. Although I would use all Omada products in this configuration because they work so well together. Hope this answers your questions. Keep me posted.
No, you would just have to use the Omada Cloud Service instead. The system will still run if the controller doesn't work. You just cant make any changes.
Yes its pretty large. I have a more recent video on a WiF6e access point that is much smaller. Let me know if you want the video link. Thank you for watching and if you subscribed thank you as well.
I have also heard the opposite of this, with Ubiquiti Unifi software being buggy with flakey implementation and bad updates. I have also heard TP Link switches, and even had a couple myself, lasting years with no failure. I have Unifi setup currently, and I have had 2 cloudkey's and 1 Gen 2 16 port switch fail under warranty. I won't say Unifi is horrible because of that, but I am highlighting all companies can have a bad run of hardware. Sofware though, That is what is making me look at an alternative to Unifi.
The one thing I like is that they still have web interface for managing the device directly. Having to buy another device to configure the device, no thanks. I tried unifi a few years back. It worked for about 4 months and then went down hill. After two months of trying to fix it, removed it and went back to my Cisco SG2xx/3xx switches. Network completely stable. I ended up getting Grandstream WAPS and they have been working without issues for 4 years now. I don't mind mixing up when I can save money and/or have good product. Just ordered the TL-GS3219X-M2 switch to have a faster backbone for some of my equipment. Well, that is my 2 cents, for what it is worth.
nice one mike, like the look of this stuff
It's great Networking Hardware that's for sure and budget friendly too! Thanks for watching Mike I really appreciate it ! Cheers! 😀
Great video Mike. Networks are criminally overlooked.....there are some great solutions out there which would improve even a home network considerably. Thanks for sharing mate 🙂
Thank you Bob! I love Networking, it's my passion. If you ever need any advice or have any questions feel free to email me! Cheers!
@@UltimateTechHub It's my day job.
Tbh, home networking will get more and more "needed" especially as 802.3bt equipment increases
Theoretically, you could power up your laptop or even a TV through an ethernet port, if both ends support 802.3bt and the power is less than 90W
My own TV pulls 80w, and newer downgraded harsher EPC ratings means companies are forced to compete on efficiency, yet again which should also be interesting.
Mike, love your review of this hardware. Would like to see a step by step explanation of each piece in action, how to use it & explain the whole functionality of the system! Thanks!
I'm doing more videos in the next 2 months so keep an eye out. Thank you for watching I really appreciate it.
Hey Mike... I just bought the VPN Router for my basic internet security. So far so good. Great review by the way. See you on MUB's Saturday night stream? Take care. Cheers
Awesome! Enjoy the VPN router it's fantastic especially for the 59 dollar price tag! I will do more videos on each of these devices. See you tomorrow on MUBs. Cheers!
I've been searching and searching for high level knowledge like this for days. I'm so happy I found someone who will just tell it how it is.
+1 subscriber
Thanks for the kind comments. Here is another more in depth video on how to setup the Omada devices.
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I am currently using an all Unbiquiti Unifi system, but I am becoming frustrated at some of the availability of hardware, and also some of the slightly weird software bugs. I also have an old USG Pro that needs replacing as it is not keeping up.
I am using a SOHO network, with 3 VLANS - Main, Camera and Guest, with possibly wanting to add another VLAN for IoT. The Guest network has a landing page, but is free access. Would it be better to look at the Omada, given the price of just updating the USG Pro ?
Omada is pretty easy to use and setup and the price is cheaper than Ubiquiti but you already have a Unifi system so I would update the USG pro. It just makes more sense and I don't want you to spend more money than you have to. If you plan on selling the Unifi system then yes get an Omada system you won't regret it. Thank you for watching.
Why are you using a 1g switch with a 2.5g accespoint? This way you are not fully using the ap speeds right?
I'm also looking for a omada setup but looking for the (ER707-M2 router, this way i have a 2.5g uplink to a 2.5g switch if needed)
I take it that you can add any surveillance cameras to TP Link Omada as it isn't a closed system like Ubiquity?
Yes, and you'd want to use a decent VMS anyways
Great video. I’m in the fence now of going with Omada or Unifi.
Omada is a great choice. Look for another Omada video in about 3 days. We are posting a complete setup guide. Thank you for watching.
Does SDN “require” cloud as a definite? Also, the software OS that the manager software runs on.. is it windows only?
With SDN its basically using the controller combined with app and no cloud needed. As you know the controller is not necessary since you PC/Server does the same thing. Also MAC has an App for Omada. Hope this answers your questions. By the way I prefer not using the Cloud to run the hardware but I'm old school!! Lol
I run from cloud hosting or dependencies. I’m also watching Microsoft actions, new OS and other software… you do not own. Anything created with their software.. they get a copy. (Spreadsheets, Word docs, received Word docs Even, etc. They threw money at Linux Consortium way back, now on board, embedding softeare that is increasingly showing up in many Distros.
Do not be shocked if they close down 6 months plus out.
I have a program that removes all their imbedded software in all Linux distros I use.
Quantum internet will roll out and replace current internet. That will have hundreds of benefits. I used internet while it was being built. (Showing age!) lol. It’s time for huge change in that entire arena. I’m looking forward to leveraging the new internet features! Disabled and forced retired, I still get involved with huge projects for free.
I need to describe my network environment and have you guide me to set it up properly. That is not my area of expertise.
I would be humbled! I am setting up for humanitarian projects in USA and abroad. Many opportunities coming! Position yourself to leverage that.
Can you assist me?
Great video. I already have my Firewalla Gold working as my ISP router....do I need TPLink Router? Current setup Firewalla Gold, OC200 and TL-SG2008.
You don't need the TP link router the firewalla router works the same. Thank you for watching and if you subscribed thank you as well.
@@UltimateTechHub Thank you for reply. If I follow your steps from Video1 and 2 most of the setting states "Gateway Required".
so I have been looking for a solution to be able to connect both of our homes with a site to site VPN and I believe after watching your video this might be the best solution. We currently have Deco X 50 routers in both homes. I am guessing that I could switch those to function as access points while connecting them to this router at which point both of the VPN routers would be talking to each other for a site to site connection. Am I on the right track? Thanks.
Yes that should work.
Keep me posted!
I have basic home network requirements and have a low level of computer technical knowledge. I have drafted a network diagram that starts with a ER7206 -Omada Gigabit VPN Router, connecting to a TL-SG1210MP unmanaged switch (chosen for simplicity) and finally a DEco X50-PoE V2. I can share the diagram but not sure how to attach. My question is in this construct would I benefit from the implementation of an Omada Controller? And if I don't have a Omada Controller what would I be missing out on? Keen to hear your thoughts.
Hey Mike, it's a great video, I have ER605 v2 working very well however I'm not able to update the firmware so, I can't add on Omada smartphone app, do you have any suggestion on how to fix it?
When you go to update it , what does it say?
great video, I just wonder would you be able to use full potential of the EAP 670? as you know it is 2.5G , but the switch and router are not!
I'm looking for the same setup for my large house and the EAP 670 seems to be much more stronger and more antenna compare to EAP 610.
The switch and router need to be 2.5g to unleash the full potential of the EAP 670.
Hi, I already have two Tp-Link Omada EAP 650, one of them is fully wired and I wanted to add the second one with the mesh capability, but I haven’t figured out how to do it. Do I need to buy the Omadada controller to create the mesh or I can do it only with the Omada app? I’m a Mac user so there is no chance I could install the Omada software. Can you point me to the right direction on what I need to setup the mesh network?
Hey Mike, just a question on the vpn router. Will this slow down the speed of the overall network given that it is porting via vpn?
It might slow your network down but I doubt you would even notice it. It also depends on the server you connect but I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks for watching!
What I don't like about the AP is that it is too big for my taste as it stand up as soar thumb wherever you put it. Besides, my possible new home which all wired with Cat5e does not have any place on the ceiling where those types of APs will not look so bad. Great educational video and thank you for it.
Look into the EAP615; it's a rectangular shape wall-mount AP. Otherwise, wireless routers might look better sitting on a shelf or something similar; most can be set to AP mode.
Great video. Instead of this switch, can we use TP-Link TL-SG1218MPE | 16 Port Gigabit PoE Switch | Easy Smart Managed | 16 PoE+ Ports? Would it serve the same purpose?
Yes that should work just fine. Thank you for watching and if you subscribed thank you as well.
@@UltimateTechHub I think TP-Link TL-SG1218MPE is not an omada managed switch
where did you buy your access point stand mount?
It's cell phone holder! 😄 Probably on Amazon!
Is it possible to use a TP-Link wireless router with this setup? If so what do you recommend. Thanks!
Hi TP-Link EAP670 AX5400 Omada Wi-Fi 6 , works only with one controller? or could be work with router and switch thanks for video!
It can work with the router and switch!
Can i use the SDN without VPN router just OC200 and swith ?
Yes.
Good day. Looking to create a better network at home. Would you still recommend the omada system? Is my verizon router necessary? If so what would you recommend today to replace the verizon router with?
Look at the ER706W if you are looking for a router that also has a wireless access point built in
did you switch your home network to this? I recall us having the same Linksys router setup. Great vid btw - keep at it Mike.
I still have the Linksys router but I've been testing Omada for about 3 weeks now. Thanks for watching Myke I really appreciate it!
can I run TP-Link ER605 and not use TP-Link OC200? my isp uses eero as modem and look to upgrade
Yes, that's definitely ok. OC200 is not mandatory.
How are you handling local DNS being the ER605/ER7206 don't have a DNS server built in?
I have a DNS-Pi-Hole server running on a Raspberry Pi4 in my Network Panel!
Just got my TP-Link AP and the POE injector doesn't work. Be cautious as it's junk.
Have you tried the Omada switch/controller/ router in one unit (ER7212PC is the model number) Vs the 3 separate units?
Not yet but I will definitely check it out.
Mike. Question 1: Do you always need to buy the VPN Router as the first device from the internet? Or is there another way to do a firewall directly to a Switch? Question 2. I was contemplating Going FANLESS and that leaves smaller POE routers for that task for cameras and POE access points. i could still get a 24-28 port fanless Switch with 10GB SFP+ ports for future upgrades. From the switch, connect a 8-10 port POE fanless routers for POE cameras and Access Points. Would that work, or does that slow things down being one more line down in the chain? Whats your thoughts on another recommended system and parts along that route?
You can buy a regular wireless router if you want. Regular routers have a firewalls built in. Yes, you need the router to be the first device in the chain. Then the switch after that. POE switches and routers are usually fan less and you can connect another switch to a another switch without seeing any type of slowdowns. Netgear and ASUS make fantastic routers with VPNs available as well. Although I would use all Omada products in this configuration because they work so well together. Hope this answers your questions. Keep me posted.
you did great pal! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
What would happen if the controller failed? Would the whole network crash?
No, you would just have to use the Omada Cloud Service instead. The system will still run if the controller doesn't work. You just cant make any changes.
The only unifi alternative.
How about actually answering the question you put in your title?
Stop selling hardware
We don't need to buy the controller
Basic switch to modem and AP.
Ughh
Yes you don't need the controller. I actually use the other hardware without the physical controller.
@@UltimateTechHub ohhh
@@UltimateTechHub sorry man , is just that if you wanna do basic run , we don't even need that VPN router buttttt
Amazing demonstration on the vlans
@@thuggy67 I agree 100 percent
That dish is waaay too big.
Yes its pretty large. I have a more recent video on a WiF6e access point that is much smaller. Let me know if you want the video link. Thank you for watching and if you subscribed thank you as well.
Unifi is 100 percent better. Tp link is a terrible product when it dies in 3 months try the warranty
i have heard some say that but many say its better and Unifi is just a closed and more $ for no reason.
I have also heard the opposite of this, with Ubiquiti Unifi software being buggy with flakey implementation and bad updates. I have also heard TP Link switches, and even had a couple myself, lasting years with no failure. I have Unifi setup currently, and I have had 2 cloudkey's and 1 Gen 2 16 port switch fail under warranty. I won't say Unifi is horrible because of that, but I am highlighting all companies can have a bad run of hardware.
Sofware though, That is what is making me look at an alternative to Unifi.
😂
Dude said Unifi is expansive. Dude Try a full Ruckus or Meraki deployment.
Ruckus is very expensive. I have a Ruckus ICX switch and a Ruckus AP.
Stop saying unifi is expensive. It’s dirt cheap.
Not dirt cheap at all
For the udm pro sitting at 380 vs tp having to buy 2 devices just to somewhat compete with unifi for a 70 dollar diff is a bit hard to chose tp