György Ligeti - Études for Piano (1985-2001, audio+score)

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  • @ciararespect4296
    @ciararespect4296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Just played this in my local pub, They weren't impressed 😔

    • @kobbelobbe941
      @kobbelobbe941  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      this is the best comment on youtube

    • @falkeprophet
      @falkeprophet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lmfao

    • @minhtriphung9373
      @minhtriphung9373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Because they don't know how to listen Ligeti etudes.

    • @glenncambray9783
      @glenncambray9783 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bloody peasants.

    • @NickCarlozzi
      @NickCarlozzi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

  • @pikachuchujelly7628
    @pikachuchujelly7628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Ligeti is one of the few avant-garde composers that I actually enjoy hearing.

    • @TheSoteriologist
      @TheSoteriologist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheSoteriologist -- Precisely too......BRAVO from Acapulco!

  • @laurencepiallat1228
    @laurencepiallat1228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    Every thing seems easy after studying Ligeti, highly recommend.

    • @emadmary4271
      @emadmary4271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I realised that the best Way to understand the music is to look at the name of the piece or movement
      It's then that you realise that the essence of the music is not in the sound but in the image portrayed

    • @Enigmatic_Music1
      @Enigmatic_Music1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Every thing else also seems better

    • @null8295
      @null8295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tomasj.pucheugabriel4908 far more complex

    • @nurrylee-piano2613
      @nurrylee-piano2613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha so true

    • @AsrielKujo
      @AsrielKujo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Which one should i start with? im thinking of doing them

  • @riccardofortino134
    @riccardofortino134 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I can't believe that there isn't a single comment on the performance. This pianist (Fredrik Ullén) is a genius.

    • @KeyboardKirby
      @KeyboardKirby ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I feel the same. Overshadowed by how incredible the music itself is. But WOW I have heard every performance available and this guy is by far the best. Full of color. Clarity, and control. Some of the finest piano playing I’ve ever heard. (And I’ve heard a LOT).

    • @delko000
      @delko000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      just memorizing the first piece must require a bionic brain

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't fancy myself a critic; total amateur. I can play a few Rolling Stones songs on the geetar. this piece - Ligeti that is - does reek of modrnism even though it is rather traditional in the formulation. As far as the playing it does frolic, and wallow, and emote and all that good stuff. Extermely enjoyable.

    • @pikachuchujelly7628
      @pikachuchujelly7628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is some brutally difficult piano music.

    • @maxgregorycompositions6216
      @maxgregorycompositions6216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, Ligeti is a genius, he actually wrote it. The pianist is just extremely talented.

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    36:47 Accent the accents. Got it

    • @TheYouTubeCuber888
      @TheYouTubeCuber888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      36:52 Accent the accented accents. And that while playing ffffffff.

    • @sebastianzaczek
      @sebastianzaczek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "Play loud"

    • @phenethylamine91
      @phenethylamine91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      >>>ffffffff as in 'ouch my ffffffffingers are bleeding'

    • @jessekaiser21
      @jessekaiser21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ligeti was undoubtedly a fan of banging the keys, literally calling for it in some cases.

    • @oaaees
      @oaaees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@phenethylamine91 fffffffff as in 'ffffffffuck this is loud'

  • @pantoleonantonio9653
    @pantoleonantonio9653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    00:02 1: Désordre
    02:15 2: Cordes à vide
    05:21 3: Touches bloquées
    07:11 4: Fanfares
    10:29 5: Arc-en-ciel
    13:54 6: Automne à Varsovie
    17:57 7: Galamb Borong
    20:19 8: Fém
    22:55 9: Vertige
    25:12 10: Der Zauberlehrling
    27:27 11: En Suspens
    29:55 12: Entrelacs
    32:37 13: L'escalier du diable
    37:41 14: Coloana infinită
    39:04 15: White on White
    42:08 16: Pour Irina
    45:02 17: À bout de souffle
    47:07 18: Canon

    • @pantoleonantonio9653
      @pantoleonantonio9653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sparticus Booker I know, i just copy-pasted this from there in case someone didn’t realise it’s in the description

    • @alexendrix6
      @alexendrix6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pantoleonantonio9653 thx Antonio very useful

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The undeniable virtuosity of Fredrik Ullén particularly touches me and deliciously juggles with the sensitivity of the emotions of the soul. Thank you very much for this pure happiness 🤠

  • @josephalvarez5315
    @josephalvarez5315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Maybe the most inventive and original piano music since Debussy's preludes. Just incredible music

  • @steveegallo3384
    @steveegallo3384 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    BRAVO, Maestro Ullén.....from Acapulco!

  • @alexanderbayramov2626
    @alexanderbayramov2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    13:07 now that's some good jazz
    fantastic etude, love these dissonances, they're somehow not that aggressive and even feel 'calming' a bit

  • @xenmaster0
    @xenmaster0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The Ligeti piano etudes prove interesting because they use a relatively restrained chromatic melodic & harmonic language reminiscent of the ultramodenrists of the 1920s, so unlike many other contemporary composers, these pieces sound harmonically and melodically as though they were composed 80 years earlier. (Think Carl Ruggles or Ruth Crawford Seeger or very early Aaron Copland.) The main difference is that most of the Ligeti piano etudes make extensive use of polyMETER, which is very different from polyRHYTHM.
    In polymeter, the notes occur in sync with one another but the *phrase boundaries* don't line up. So you have a musical phrase that starts and ends in a different place in one voice than in another voice. That produces a type of desynchronization that has been less used in modern music than outright polyrhythms.
    Rhythmically of course Ligeti piano etudes are still a lot simpler than Conlon Nancarrow's or Ferneyhough's music (everything is rhythmically simpler than their music), but Ligeti's piano etudes have a different type of phrase-level complexity that's intriguing and refreshingly novel.

    • @trancosomarcus
      @trancosomarcus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great!

    • @bretharley7480
      @bretharley7480 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoy the banging

    • @pikachuchujelly7628
      @pikachuchujelly7628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sometimes even polytonality. In the first one, the left and right hands are playing in different keys, yet it somehow works.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Aside from the tonality The man's sense of how register work's is mind blowing.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      he knows what he's doin

    • @dzordzszs
      @dzordzszs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @‮001 arffizC changed your name from Akkadian or whatever it was?

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dzordzszs Invisible character.

    • @dzordzszs
      @dzordzszs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @‮001 arffizC Nevermind

    • @dzordzszs
      @dzordzszs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@segmentsAndCurves Oh

  • @guscairns1
    @guscairns1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "The Devil's Staircase" (no 13) has already rightly become a virtuoso showoff piece (not done with enough attack here) but I love the calm, Debussy-style beauty of no 2 (Cordes a Vide)

    • @youresomodest
      @youresomodest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yutong Sun played them with his eyes closed nearly the entire time at last year's Cliburn competition. It was amazing.

    • @marcellomarianetti1770
      @marcellomarianetti1770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love n. 2 too!

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Several of the virtuoso etudes here are not played clearly/precisely enough, but the slow etudes are beautifully done.

    • @camthesaxman3387
      @camthesaxman3387 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It reminds me of the endless staircase music from Super Mario 64, and that's no coincidence.

    • @riccardofortino134
      @riccardofortino134 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@calebhu6383 "not played clearly"? Sorry but I strongly disagree. I think that this one is the best recording of these etudes BY FAR and that this pianist is an absolute genius.

  • @meszian
    @meszian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "Vertige" is the intellectual equivalent of kicking the shit out of someone for accusing you of being unable to pat your head while rubbing your stomach simultaneously

    • @scruffysean3640
      @scruffysean3640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love this comment.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tf, why is this relatable?

    • @mariatpena7638
      @mariatpena7638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just NO 👊

    • @null8295
      @null8295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@segmentsAndCurves because its the most difficult of the collection

  • @morganmartinez8420
    @morganmartinez8420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    White on white is just out of this world, absolutely sublime

  • @user-74652
    @user-74652 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    39:04 I never thought I would ever find myself thinking of the word "beautiful" to describe a Ligeti work.
    41:11 Well, there's the proof that this is, indeed, a Ligeti work.

    • @verslaflamme666
      @verslaflamme666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      White on White is truly beautiful. Though, I'm not a fan of this interpretation. It's a little fast in my opinion.

    • @florisheijdra9583
      @florisheijdra9583 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same with No. 13. Way too fast in my opinion. (at least we know the pianist doesn't lack technical aspects)

    • @sebastianzaczek
      @sebastianzaczek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      When someone says that Tonal = Consonant i like to Show this piece from 41:11 indeed

    • @nathanielouzana
      @nathanielouzana 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Arc en ciel is extremely beautiful in my opinion...

    • @sebastianzaczek
      @sebastianzaczek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathanielouzana indeed

  • @yandrak6134
    @yandrak6134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What did I just hear. It's amazingly... amazing

  • @mojeo522
    @mojeo522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    And they say Liszt is the king of finger-breaking...

    • @user-pf5nb9tu6n
      @user-pf5nb9tu6n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah and Ligeti is unmusical

    • @Qazwdx111
      @Qazwdx111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @User Delete i dont think it is fact D:

    • @null8295
      @null8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it is for those who have two hands, we who study Ligeti have at least four

  • @noahchuipka6351
    @noahchuipka6351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Perhaps the closest to impossibility that possibility may get.

    • @toothlesstoe
      @toothlesstoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You need to check out Sorabji's etudes. They're even more difficult than these.

    • @depauleable
      @depauleable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@toothlesstoe Oh boy, what about Conlon Nancarrow?

    • @toothlesstoe
      @toothlesstoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@depauleable
      We're obviously talking about within the realm of remote possibility.

    • @written12
      @written12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      depauleable
      Man arrow is crazy, so crazy he had to get himself a player piano.

    • @ghmus7
      @ghmus7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toothlesstoe Yes but don't have as much music. I can't decide if Sorabji is a fake or a genius.

  • @ricardo713
    @ricardo713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is the first time I’ve actually heard the imagery of the devil’s staircase. He really painted the image. Bravo!

    • @kofiLjunggren
      @kofiLjunggren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one?

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kofiLjunggren 13: L'escalier du Diable

  • @ChrisBreemer
    @ChrisBreemer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Many thanks for posting these exemplary performances together with pristine screenshots. Rare quality !

  • @96typhoon96
    @96typhoon96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    21:30 'fascinating rhythm'

    • @solarean
      @solarean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      jacob collier flashbacks

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tell me about it

    • @michaelchoi0
      @michaelchoi0 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@segmentsAndCurvesgershwin song title

  • @WilliamAhlert
    @WilliamAhlert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The sixth one really appeals to me, a good composer for getting into more out-there music without overly breaking your ears. The string quartet no1 (assuming he did more which I don’t know) is quite something as well

    • @davidecarlassara8525
      @davidecarlassara8525 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a second one, which I like a bit less than the third. I highly recommend the violin concerto and the sonata for solo viola if you don't want to "break your ears"

  • @gaudetjaja
    @gaudetjaja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I am at 10 now. So far 2 and 9 are my absolute favourites. Beautiful. And there I was thinking I just don't like atonal music. I just don't like BAD atonal music !! This is amazing. Number 9 vertigo is groundbreaking

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      When you open yourself enough, you will find anything good, it's just you try to neglect that.

    • @thefrankonion
      @thefrankonion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like 2. too.

    • @andreasvandieaarde
      @andreasvandieaarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@segmentsAndCurves Hey I recognise you from somewhere! Can't remember the video lmao but I agree

    • @andreasvandieaarde
      @andreasvandieaarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is bad atonal music to you?, Gaudetjaja?

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andreasvandieaarde I'm in places

  • @FeonaLeeJones
    @FeonaLeeJones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cannot thank you enough for posting the score on here!!

  • @matthewkennedy5007
    @matthewkennedy5007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ligeti was a genius!

  • @Historia_
    @Historia_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A TH-cam account, a Tsumugi Pfp with quality Music uploaded, a good find for sure :)

  • @bfposner
    @bfposner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for the work you have put in to create this audio+score video. Fascinating to follow the music as it plays out on the page.

  • @user-jogakbedongdong
    @user-jogakbedongdong ปีที่แล้ว +1

    현대연주는 의도된 불협화음으로 청중의 심리를 불안하고 불편하게 만드는 연주가 많은데... 두 번은 듣기 힘드니... 음악에 있어서는 편안함과 아름다운 멜로디를
    좋아하는 평범한 저는 악보에 그려진
    저 기괴한 음표만 보는것만으로 힘드네요.
    연주자가 얼마나 힘들게 연습했는지 노고에 큰 박수를보냅니다.

  • @alexisdanielvaneskeheian2127
    @alexisdanielvaneskeheian2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Maravillosa composición; magistral al extremo. Y muchas felicitaciones al intérprete: es infernal lo que toca, por dios... Muchas gracias por compartir. Un abrazo desde Buenos Aires, Argentina.

  • @alejandrocaviglia
    @alejandrocaviglia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thanks for this upload. i only knew aimard performances, these are really beautiful as well

  • @theh0r5e90
    @theh0r5e90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Everyone: Try for technical excellence
    Ligeti: Hold my metronome

  • @katerichauret5186
    @katerichauret5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ty for the Angels in this Beautiful Music 🎶

  • @sneddypie
    @sneddypie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    cordes à vide is really beautiful

  • @malcolmmiller2720
    @malcolmmiller2720 ปีที่แล้ว

    phenomenal performance

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No. 9 is likely influenced by the 3rd from Bartok's 14 bagatelles

    • @null8295
      @null8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks

  • @celinemedero3800
    @celinemedero3800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is actually mind blowing

  • @peterkocsis7010
    @peterkocsis7010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The titels of 7 and 8 are hungarian: 7= Dove Broods, 8= Metal . The title of 14 is romanian:
    Infinite Column .

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's also the title of a sculpture by Brancusi in Romania from 1938.

    • @peterkocsis7010
      @peterkocsis7010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobiolopainto So probably the title is an allusion to this sculpture.

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterkocsis7010 Sure. The Brancusi is a monument to Romanian fighters of World War I. Look it up on wiki. Beautiful!

    • @peterkocsis7010
      @peterkocsis7010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tobiolopainto Have done it- thank you ! Really a great work- I didn´t know there was a Brancusi open air work in Romania, I though Ceausescu had destroyed everything- - but now I read that it is part of a triple work: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sculptural_Ensemble_of_Constantin_Br%C3%A2ncu%C8%99i_at_T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterkocsis7010 Yes. And the Endless Column is a template for an Endless Column. It was kept to 90 feet for structural reasons, but in theory, that column could go on forever. If Brancusi was an Eastern Orthodox Christian, the trapezoidal units have something to do with the Eastern Orthodox conception of the perfect, or divine form. Another artist, Mike Lekakis worked using a similar form, but in wood. He explained the trapezoid form idea to me once. You can look him up on wiki, too. You'll see that his work is closely related to Brancusi's.

  • @joemiller95
    @joemiller95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would definitely agree that this isn't random noise, as it's obviously not random. I would also say that the best part is right after the final notes, and after that. These compositions have given me a new appreciation for silence.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is ironic and could be understood as the most acerb criticism of them since it's an unconscious one.

  • @MariafernandaQuinteroAlzate
    @MariafernandaQuinteroAlzate ปีที่แล้ว

    Maravilloso, es encontrar entre el cielo y la tierra otro sentido de la vida ¡ Gracias ¡¡¡¡¡

  • @atsumindesu
    @atsumindesu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:32 - 3:37 so beautiful I'm crying

  • @phenethylamine91
    @phenethylamine91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Ligeti: "Where we're going, we need no metrum signs"

    • @delko000
      @delko000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, I had an image of doc in "back to the future" in my head.

    • @danielgonzalezjr8350
      @danielgonzalezjr8350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also Ligeti: “You only need the understand the tempo of ‘Continuum’”
      Aimard: “But I don’t play clavecin.”
      Ligeti: “Look, we are here.”

    • @nghiavan8952
      @nghiavan8952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielgonzalezjr8350 Ligeti should’ve been a phycisist

    • @solarean
      @solarean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorabji is the owner of that place.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solarean Haha

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so good ...

  • @fredphipps9452
    @fredphipps9452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fab; I'm v grateful for this posting

  • @adigozelov-enjoyer
    @adigozelov-enjoyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fanfares was certainly inspired by Bartók's bulgarian dance No. 6, or so it seems

  • @central9823
    @central9823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:02 7:11 10:29 13:54 20:19 22:55 29:55 32:37 42:08 47:07

  • @TheSoteriologist
    @TheSoteriologist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am comparing this version etude by etude with that of Thomas Hell and can't decide which I prefer. Maybe they are just very different, but both convincing.

  • @derby2510
    @derby2510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The glory of Christ shines through these etudes.

  • @markdisanzo3796
    @markdisanzo3796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is f#$%^ amazing that a piece like this can even be written down.

  • @RollinRocker
    @RollinRocker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    33:30 My mouth just hang open for a minute...

    • @null8295
      @null8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      trust me, vertige is way more difficult

  • @Einar.Z
    @Einar.Z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BRAVO

  • @ComtedeMonteC
    @ComtedeMonteC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is interesting to see all the études played, nevertheless the étude 13 (L'escalier du diable), the only one I can speak of with some assurance, is played far too quickly. The pianist in this étude omits almost all the accents written by Ligeti because of the excessive speed.

  • @rossanopinelli5150
    @rossanopinelli5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FANTASTICO!!!

    • @mmmistero7071
      @mmmistero7071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no

    • @rossanopinelli5150
      @rossanopinelli5150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mmmistero7071 Opinione personale che, naturalmente, rispetto. Ma da compositore mi permetto di dire che a certa musica estremamente complessa, intricata, ma straordinariamente espressiva e inventiva come questa, occorre far l'abitudine - per poterla comprendere e apprezzare pienamente - studiandola, ascoltandola, praticandola per lungo tempo. Un saluto e buona continuazione con lo studio del pianoforte.

  • @antonio.belfiore
    @antonio.belfiore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please, keep up uploading videos!

  • @oscarqg7807
    @oscarqg7807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simplemente maravilloso!!!!

  • @tonylogan4092
    @tonylogan4092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ligeti was a great Vampire composer!

  • @nicolassimion6967
    @nicolassimion6967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, this is incredible....chapeau bas mr ligeti and mr ullen !

  • @Charlie_Miles
    @Charlie_Miles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure genius!

  • @markgcarroll
    @markgcarroll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    32:37 Etude 13 ('L'Escalier...'): Too fast. The dance-like rhythm has been lost. There has to be a balance of showing off the virtuosity of the piece and also capturing the music. This performer is undoubtedly an excellent, virtuosic player but there is little musicality in this performance.
    Etude 13 should sound like both showing off *and* dancing (including conveying the strong folk music influence)... Unfortunately this performance only does the former.

    • @markgcarroll
      @markgcarroll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fact I'm going to modify my comment by adding: it's so fast that at times the player loses synchronicity between the hands. Not good

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Dhruva Punde the typical "do it by yourself" shit isn't even a valid argument.

    • @UtsyoChakraborty
      @UtsyoChakraborty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Pierre Laurent Aimard is the guy for this etude!

    • @worgeordieswafter225
      @worgeordieswafter225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UtsyoChakraborty I agree!

  • @cobrastriesand7693
    @cobrastriesand7693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are there any recordings of Ligetti playing the piano, himself?

    • @vavlietf2410
      @vavlietf2410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Althought he definitely understood the instrument and what he was doing with it in his etudes, Ligeti was not much of a pianist. I don't think he was anywhere close to be able to play his etudes the way he envisioned them. He did make a few piano roll versions of some Etudes thought, if I'm not mistaken (or he might have just "written" them for piano roll and someone else actually made the rolls, I don't quite remember).

    • @mts2
      @mts2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vavlietf2410 I think Nancarrow is the main dude with the rolls; friended with Ligeti btw. The french pianist Aimard worked through the etudes with Ligeti, not sure if for all of them tho.

    • @vavlietf2410
      @vavlietf2410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mts2 Wouldn't be surprising if he got some of his piano roll stuff from Nancarrow. Ligeti just liked to touch to a little bit of everything. Aimard definitely worked with Ligeti while learning most of the 2nd and 3rd book, he gave the premier for almost all of the etudes in those. It wouldn't surprise me if he got feedback for the other pieces as well. I doubt he was involved in the writing of the pieces, but it is said that Ligeti was influenced a bit by Aimard to push the later studies into even more absurd virtuosistic territory.

  • @paulfreeman4900
    @paulfreeman4900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If someone had spliced the genes of Liszt, Rachmaninoff and Bartok and doused the whole lot with fire and brimstone.........

    • @_rstcm
      @_rstcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add 20th century Schönberg to that too..........

    • @zackl7467
      @zackl7467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_rstcm Ligeti didn’t use schoenberg’s 12 tone technique.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zackl7467 But he uses 20th-century craziness.
      Sorry, I just have to.

  • @MrRanSch
    @MrRanSch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful! Which editor do you use?

  • @mrjimmienoone2130
    @mrjimmienoone2130 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If you're a jazz fan, like me, you can only love and admire this.

    • @MarcusHK1
      @MarcusHK1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bach is sometimes jazzy too. For example the 2nd piece in the Art of Fugue, especially in Glenn Gould's version.

    • @toothlesstoe
      @toothlesstoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MarcusHK1
      No, Bach is nowhere remotely close to being jazzy. To even make a remark like that is ignorant and anachronistic.

    • @MarcusHK1
      @MarcusHK1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@toothlesstoe It depends what one means exactly by "jazzy". Bach is indeed a far cry from actual jazz, but there is sometimes a slight ressemblance. Try to listen for example to the 2nd fugue of the Art of fugue played by Glenn Gould.

    • @depauleable
      @depauleable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes it sounds like Joachim Kühn improvising. He probably played some of these pieces at some point

    • @OrbiliusMagister
      @OrbiliusMagister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to hear N. 5 performed with actual swing by an actual jazz pianist.

  • @mantictac
    @mantictac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does one play ffffff? At what point does it become "as loud as possible"? The piano only has a certain dynamic range.

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially when the piece already starts at ffff and has the "loud as possible" introductory note!

  • @dspannplayspiano
    @dspannplayspiano ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ending of Automne à Varsovie is properly insane17:40

  • @jorguegonzalez3595
    @jorguegonzalez3595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hermods y maravillosa musica!

  • @danielgonzalezjr8350
    @danielgonzalezjr8350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought ‘Pour Irina’ was for Irina Shostakovich.

  • @dieterammann4
    @dieterammann4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I had to name a compositional model, it would probably be Ligeti.

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    45:03 lol he just HAD to stagger both hands right

    • @crowbar6723
      @crowbar6723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      slateflash you've blown my mind by making me think of a way to play that without crossing over or staggering. you had me in the 4 dimension for a few minutes there.

    • @slateflash
      @slateflash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i really don't know how it's possible

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hats off to Maestro Fredrik Ullén for achieving the Impossible here..........

    • @toothlesstoe
      @toothlesstoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A passage like that definitely requires a lot of hands-separate practice. It helps to practice the figurations in unison, then gradually break out of phase with each other. It's not as hard as it seems.

    • @sebastianzaczek
      @sebastianzaczek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A while ago i wrote a piece with a similar concept, but tonally, and i Personally don't find it that difficult... but my piece doesn't have so many dense and irregular accents, so it is probably easier in General too

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano ปีที่แล้ว +9

    La quatrième étude aurait pu constituer un numéro de Mikrokosmos volume... 7.

    • @7takes
      @7takes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nombre 8 aussi

  • @glenncambray9783
    @glenncambray9783 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think I'll stay here for a while.

  • @verslaflamme666
    @verslaflamme666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    White on White is so gorgeous but I think this pianist plays the half note section a little faster than it's supposed to be.

  • @paolobacchetta525
    @paolobacchetta525 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    amazing

  • @jonlebono2147
    @jonlebono2147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could someone please explain the notation of Etude 1 bar 1. Are the first 3 notes counted as a quaver triplet and how do the following 5 quavers fit within a dotted crotchet?
    Thank you

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They aren't suposed to fit there, you have to relase the dotted crotchet in the 3rd quaver

    • @Bashkii
      @Bashkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's lunacy all over the place. Nobody would notice!

  • @fazergazer
    @fazergazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting in Disordre the end of the piece has variant keys and key signatures for left and right hand lines

  • @macanusanus
    @macanusanus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s my jam!

  • @caspardegelmini2467
    @caspardegelmini2467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolute amazing Music!

    • @themobiusfunction
      @themobiusfunction 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Enigmatic_Music1but for real this time

  • @florisheijdra6086
    @florisheijdra6086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No 13 is just too fast for comfort in this recording.. 🤪 but hella good playing anyway

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure that the performance Is so excellent? If you look to the score, for example in Vertige, the nuances are played with no respect of the text, completely.

  • @happypnenda3989
    @happypnenda3989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    10:29

  • @alanbash2921
    @alanbash2921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Based on a Theme by Palestrina

  • @billy1998vn
    @billy1998vn ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fire

  • @cosmofonia-luigiantonio
    @cosmofonia-luigiantonio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the download!

  • @christopher19894
    @christopher19894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is what Captain Beefheart would've made if he was classically trained.

  • @markandrewpiano
    @markandrewpiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing

  • @ezra6094
    @ezra6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    37:25 Wait, where were the 5 minutes and 16 seconds of silence?

    • @leo17921
      @leo17921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its supposed to mean that the piece lasts 5:16 not that the silence lasts 5:16

    • @ezra6094
      @ezra6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leo179 ohh, that makes much more sense

  • @ger.lieder
    @ger.lieder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love ligeti

  • @benlindsay6012
    @benlindsay6012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great stuff, but devilishly difficult to play!

  • @davidecarlassara8525
    @davidecarlassara8525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goated Ligeti

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:27

  • @richardrickford3028
    @richardrickford3028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The staircase for the Devil reminds me of some of Keith Jarret's music in the Vienna Concert.

  • @embcomposer
    @embcomposer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinante!

  • @Civilizashum
    @Civilizashum 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the links to a pdf are not viable links currently

    • @Civilizashum
      @Civilizashum 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      too bad. I am bowled over, this performance brings out things, particulary in the slower or quieter passages, others apparently didn't.

  • @null8295
    @null8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why this video was taken down?

  • @jsabuilds2404
    @jsabuilds2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 9:51 the slurs cross over each other, switching hands. What was Ligeti thinking?

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This notation is pretty "common", not sure what bothers you.

  • @enricointra5203
    @enricointra5203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I jazzisti per poter proiettare il linguaggio jazzistico in un possibile futuro di questa MUSICA DOVREBBERO ascoltare gli STUDI per la pianoforte di Ligeti..... Illuminanti... Vivi... Composizioni semplici nella scrittura ma complicati da eseguire... Tutto nel rispetto del suono EVVIVA

    • @enricointra5203
      @enricointra5203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Per pianoforte di Ligeti

    • @alexendrix6
      @alexendrix6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grazie Maestro Enrico Intra seguirò il tuo prezioso consiglio anche se mi aspetta un lavoro molto molto impegnativo, Wi il Jazz un abbraccio da Alessandro Fattori in memoria di Studio7 e Franco Cerri

  • @川口健太郎-m5e
    @川口健太郎-m5e ปีที่แล้ว

    バルトークのピアノ曲集ミクロコスモスが更に現代化
    20世紀後半のピアノ曲の傑作

  • @peteklatcomposer2052
    @peteklatcomposer2052 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you uploaded the Kammerkonzert yet? With score?

  • @gerdlindlar1980
    @gerdlindlar1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    meilensteine der komposition u interpretation. extrem ....

  • @thornlesser8994
    @thornlesser8994 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    when I finally got to see this score on a trip t los Angeles Library in the late 1990's I knew after that I had to make music . Now I want to do sometingsimilar for violin . I can't imagine how allthese crystlclear voices could ever be accomplished on a single violin but it is my goal . Look at the impossibility Godowsky reated in the beginning of 1900's and end of 19th century . No.2 is one of the most beautiful MUSICS ever created .Well large intervals are easier on violin but the sustains are not as easily accomplished with pedals and fingers on a keyboard. 2 violins would be interesting to . Imagine a string quartet playing etude no. 2 . I've yet to really be able to comprehend much 20th and 21st century chamber music .Bartok slays me and the Ligeti and Ben Johnson are just indecipherabl at my stage ! Art is long it doesn't die in your lifetime really . Ligeti pieces will not become museum pieces even with new virtua instruments , technoogies and electronic ! Are any of them iside piano . I have 3 cd's of this music and can't remember. Aimard and Idil iret are geniuses .she also recore all 3 Boulez sonatas . Biret is a miracle .Aimard's Bach too is more than Gould or Rosalyn but their musicality can ot be outshined !

    • @ariehchrem3067
      @ariehchrem3067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a look at his Viola Sonata, specially the 4th movement!

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn't be using 2 spaces between each word.