That has got to be a fantastic way to enjoy oneself. Thanks for showing us this. And the natural sounds were far better to listen to than music, after all that is part of the outdoor experience, isn't it.
I've watched a lot of sailing kayak videos, and this by far is the best one. Periscope depth looks pretty exciting. Nice group. Everyone handed their sailing kayak with expertise Thank you.
Ok, I was dubious when I heard about this, and now I want to outfit my sea kayak with a sail... that looks like a total blast, and a great way to cover more distance touring.
Hi John, yes we can take out the mast very easily if you capsize. Just release the sheet and reach forward to lift out the mast and sail. We have also practiced rolling back up with the mast and sail in place. This requires a slower, more controlled roll as the extra drag created by the sail requires a sustained paddle action often requiring a reverse support stroke to finish the roll. A hip flick has to be done late because of the slow recovery.
I appreciate you not adding any musical background, whish I think ruins many sailing videos. As you mention, and I 300% agree, the best music is the sound of water on your hulls!
Some of our sails, the tall, narrow ones can sail into the wind but unless you have a centre board, which most dont, you cannot effectively sail into the wind.
Pretty amazing I have a 24' massively keeled sailboat but find kayak/canoe sailing fascinating and more in tune with the elements. I am thinking about fabricating a double canoe cat. Using 2 x17' canoes, bridged together and both with large water tight central compartments big enough for at least one dry bunk. and a deck with sturdy mast with rig sufficiant to boogey for the R2AK (race to alaska)
What an awesome trip. I just purchased a fairly old but potentially seaworthy Kayak. I live in the Whitsundays in sunny Queensland Australia and will be taking baby steps toward doing some Kayak cruising.
How’d you go mate? Also interested in this idea of sailing kayak cruising. A very efficient craft for storage, transport and lack of maintenance. I’d like to get a sail (Seadog or Falcon) and put it on a plastic sea kayak to see how it would go.
The sails have no effect on the bow of the sea kayak since we have the masts on either side of the cockpit, even with only one sail in front there is no tendency to dip the bow.
this is cool. Im just about to put my first kayak rig into sea trials, its good to see some other stayless kayaks. functioning fine with mast positions about where mine is, the trends for the bought ones seems to be stayed and with the mast way out on the foredeck. I think my next sail will be roughly modeled on variations with the one large baton and the upswept boom a la Jeff Jennings. it seems no one is doing this much where im at, its all multisports boats, in th 40s here too so I get the apeal of the minimum windage. im also thinking of sticking the biggest old windsurfer fin I can find under the boat, I installed something to screw into in the keel when building the step, not till I see where lateral resistance point is with a couple of sails though. I could even imagine putting a bolt on bolt off weighted fin keel, could go fast. the other thing that could be pretty nice is a balanced lugsail, but I like the single batton as a halyardless rig. one less string is one less worry. I apreciate the sheet cleat tips too, I had in mind running the sheet through a block like on any normal yacht, or even using a traveller. but the rules dont apply with such tiny sails, I will make up 2 wee jam cleat and hook arangements,
The question "why do you fellas use sails" is obvious isn't it? You go quick, cover distance with less energy and it's mighty fun. Got to get a sail set up for my yak
HAHA!!! I thought about this the other day, as i have been thinking about getting a sailboat - and bought a kayak just 2 days ago... And now this video came up as a suggestion :P
After 35 years of attaching all manner of sail to all manner of canoes and kayaks I've come to the conclusion that a stout umbrella is the best way to harness the wind in this type of craft. Unless you have a keel like structure (leeboards etc) a sailing kayak/canoe will never go anywhere but downwind. The sails, rigging and mast setups in this video although pretty and fun, are deeply inefficient compared to an umbrella which can be raised/lowered/stowed in a wink and goes just as fast,
Hi Tony, I live in South Oz and paddle a Tassie Greenlander, strong sharp bow and pronounced keel, my sails home made to this crowds designs, don't worry what anyone says , they go upwind , about 45 degrees off the headwind. if its strong enough, and even if I've been dreaming all this, - they sure as hell catch the the beam winds ! gotta be careful when they get strong though ! ! the deep rudder and pronounced keel see to that. Maybe they shouldn't according to physics, but they do.
@@treshpearce1652 Do you reckon you could get a standard plastic sea kayak sailing upwind by adding a skeg/keel? Interested in the idea, just not sure on the practicality.
rather unfair, the " grandmither's bedsheet comment...this is the ocean, a few of these kayaks likely have a max. beam of less than 23", I see no leeboards but likely the bow & stern of these boats are sharp enough to give some lateral plane. I think these guys' whole idea is to keep it simple & have some fun in a loose group event. I'd trade places...my home is mid- continent. very little navigable water.
Yes we practice doing an eskimo roll with sail up. It is quite difficult and different to a normal roll. You have to do a double stroke with the paddle, the first brings you parallel to the surface the second or reverse stroke brings the sail upright. It is a much slower roll as you have to gradually overcome the resistance of the sail through the water.
Hello Jeff, congratulations for the video and the nice sails that you and your friends have build. May I ask what is the sail material you used? I am thinking to build a sail for my kayak. Thanks!
We always consider the sail as a bonus and you need to be able to adjust it quickly when things get tough. Yes you can't do a full "normal" paddle stroke but it is a compromise, easily accessible but not too close. In any real winds you don't really need to paddle.
The North Sea Tourer tends to sink the bow when going fast into the wave infront. The Greenlander will do this but you have to go faster. I suppose the strong wind gusts tend to push the bow down.
We dont actually wear drysuits in Tasmania. Water temperatures are between 10 degrees C and 20 so there is no real need. Usually wear thermals and a windproof/waterproof jacket on top and shorts/bathers below. Sorry cant help.
That has got to be a fantastic way to enjoy oneself. Thanks for showing us this. And the natural sounds were far better to listen to than music, after all that is part of the outdoor experience, isn't it.
I've watched a lot of sailing kayak videos, and this by far is the best one. Periscope depth looks pretty exciting. Nice group. Everyone handed their sailing kayak with expertise Thank you.
Ok, I was dubious when I heard about this, and now I want to outfit my sea kayak with a sail... that looks like a total blast, and a great way to cover more distance touring.
Amazing to see those small sails pushing you along at a reasonable clip.
Hi John, yes we can take out the mast very easily if you capsize. Just release the sheet and reach forward to lift out the mast and sail. We have also practiced rolling back up with the mast and sail in place. This requires a slower, more controlled roll as the extra drag created by the sail requires a sustained paddle action often requiring a reverse support stroke to finish the roll. A hip flick has to be done late because of the slow recovery.
I appreciate you not adding any musical background, whish I think ruins many sailing videos. As you mention, and I 300% agree, the best music is the sound of water on your hulls!
Some of our sails, the tall, narrow ones can sail into the wind but unless you have a centre board, which most dont, you cannot effectively sail into the wind.
Pretty amazing
I have a 24' massively keeled sailboat but find kayak/canoe sailing fascinating and more in tune with the elements. I am thinking about fabricating a double canoe cat. Using 2 x17' canoes, bridged together and both with large water tight central compartments big enough for at least one dry bunk. and a deck with sturdy mast with rig sufficiant to boogey for the R2AK (race to alaska)
What an awesome trip. I just purchased a fairly old but potentially seaworthy Kayak. I live in the Whitsundays in sunny Queensland Australia and will be taking baby steps toward doing some Kayak cruising.
How’d you go mate? Also interested in this idea of sailing kayak cruising. A very efficient craft for storage, transport and lack of maintenance. I’d like to get a sail (Seadog or Falcon) and put it on a plastic sea kayak to see how it would go.
The sails have no effect on the bow of the sea kayak since we have the masts on either side of the cockpit, even with only one sail in front there is no tendency to dip the bow.
Thanks for the comment, we had a great time scooting along, surfing the odd wave. It was windy but there was little swell which made it easier.
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Amzing speep for such as small sail!
Awesome !! what a nice group ... great kayaking/sailing
this is cool. Im just about to put my first kayak rig into sea trials, its good to see some other stayless kayaks. functioning fine with mast positions about where mine is, the trends for the bought ones seems to be stayed and with the mast way out on the foredeck. I think my next sail will be roughly modeled on variations with the one large baton and the upswept boom a la Jeff Jennings. it seems no one is doing this much where im at, its all multisports boats, in th 40s here too so I get the apeal of the minimum windage. im also thinking of sticking the biggest old windsurfer fin I can find under the boat, I installed something to screw into in the keel when building the step, not till I see where lateral resistance point is with a couple of sails though. I could even imagine putting a bolt on bolt off weighted fin keel, could go fast. the other thing that could be pretty nice is a balanced lugsail, but I like the single batton as a halyardless rig. one less string is one less worry. I apreciate the sheet cleat tips too, I had in mind running the sheet through a block like on any normal yacht, or even using a traveller. but the rules dont apply with such tiny sails, I will make up 2 wee jam cleat and hook arangements,
凄く楽しそうです！
映像の様なウネリぐらいがちょうど楽しいんですよね。
長距離も楽になりますね。sea kayak はキールが無いから風上は難しいかな？
自分のkayak にもセイル付けたいです。
The question "why do you fellas use sails" is obvious isn't it? You go quick, cover distance with less energy and it's mighty fun. Got to get a sail set up for my yak
Looks like a blast!
Fantastic! Enjoyed that a lot thanks. The sails looks like they're worth their weight in gold!
HAHA!!! I thought about this the other day, as i have been thinking about getting a sailboat - and bought a kayak just 2 days ago... And now this video came up as a suggestion :P
After 35 years of attaching all manner of sail to all manner of canoes and kayaks I've come to the conclusion that a stout umbrella is the best way to harness the wind in this type of craft. Unless you have a keel like structure (leeboards etc) a sailing kayak/canoe will never go anywhere but downwind. The sails, rigging and mast setups in this video although pretty and fun, are deeply inefficient compared to an umbrella which can be raised/lowered/stowed in a wink and goes just as fast,
Hi Tony, I live in South Oz and paddle a Tassie Greenlander, strong sharp bow and pronounced keel, my sails home made to this crowds designs, don't worry what anyone says , they go upwind , about 45 degrees off the headwind. if its strong enough, and even if I've been dreaming all this, - they sure as hell catch the the beam winds ! gotta be careful when they get strong though ! ! the deep rudder and pronounced keel see to that. Maybe they shouldn't according to physics, but they do.
@@treshpearce1652 Do you reckon you could get a standard plastic sea kayak sailing upwind by adding a skeg/keel? Interested in the idea, just not sure on the practicality.
Damn, looks like a blast! 🇨🇦🍻
Sure was and the good thing is this wind , a N Westerly is our predominant wind.
Thanks cool video my concern how you getting back know they will not go that good in the Wind
On this kind of trip we have cars at both ends of the trip.
If you look at my web site there are a few details on how we rig these sails.
, Beautiful images that cool bro, beautiful images,
lo menos, es mas..cuando una vela se infla siempre emociona .sailing. un altro mondo he
Que aventura maravilhosa
Yes you could and you would probably end upside down as the kayak changed course.
rather unfair, the " grandmither's bedsheet comment...this is the ocean, a few of these kayaks likely have a max. beam of less than 23", I see no leeboards but likely the bow & stern of these boats are sharp enough to give some lateral plane. I think these guys' whole idea is to keep it simple & have some fun in a loose group event. I'd trade places...my home is mid- continent. very little navigable water.
Add kite probably go faster?
Beautiful vid .
why is the kayak tip going underwater? too much weight?
bonito video lo rápido que vais el grupo de piraguas
Jeff you web link doesn't work - at least from the UK. It takes you to some commercial phone company eftel
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Wonderfull pictures, under that threatening sky! Where you obviounsly running downwind? What performances on the way back?
spoutnik81 Yes we were running downwind up to about 15kmh. It was a one way trip.
Thank you for replying. I love this video! Say, what would be the performances windward?
Shiver me timbers !
Can you do a rollover? With the sail up I can't believe nobody went in.
Yes we practice doing an eskimo roll with sail up. It is quite difficult and different to a normal roll. You have to do a double stroke with the paddle, the first brings you parallel to the surface the second or reverse stroke brings the sail upright. It is a much slower roll as you have to gradually overcome the resistance of the sail through the water.
Hello Jeff, congratulations for the video and the nice sails that you and your friends have build. May I ask what is the sail material you used? I am thinking to build a sail for my kayak. Thanks!
its probably nylon. im using an old cut down windsurfer for my first sail. only cost a couple of bucks.
A beautiful film clip! But what about the sail if a roll is needed?
That's why I use an umbrella. Works just as well and if you need too, you just let it go.
is the sail pushing down on the front of the boat
In the event of the tip over and the mass be broke down so that a role can be performed?
Wow, I'm fairly new to sea kayaking and these sails look fantastic. How are they rigged to the boat?
nice twin master! main and mizzen mast !
How is the speed? how many knots are you doing wiht these sails. Looks fantastic!!
cannot one use the paddle as a center board?
it looks nice
I have a prijon tandem repairing the hull,which sail would you prefer if I may ask.
it's funny how small of a sail you need.
I am curious why you mount the sails so close to the cockpit, surely it interferes with paddling?
We always consider the sail as a bonus and you need to be able to adjust it quickly when things get tough. Yes you can't do a full "normal" paddle stroke but it is a compromise, easily accessible but not too close. In any real winds you don't really need to paddle.
Can you sail into the wind on these yaks?
zig zagging yes
Trop cool 👍
Maybe the bow wouldn't sink if you didn't have anything in the front.
how easily do they pitch poll?
Why are some of the boats nose-diving?
The North Sea Tourer tends to sink the bow when going fast into the wave infront. The Greenlander will do this but you have to go faster. I suppose the strong wind gusts tend to push the bow down.
Hello, realy use this sail with "intex explorer k2" ? What speed with 1 m2 and 1,5 m2 sail(only sail)?
The best speed we have had downwind with the bigger sail is 18km/hr.
How many meters2 has your big sail? Did you use the fins
inspiradpor
Wooow!
It's cool )))
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woooow thx!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tes that really sums up the wow factor when you are downwind sailing on a lumpy sea.
can u make tutorial how to fix sail on kayak
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it's a very dangerous speed.... kayaks hasn't brakes!!!!
what kind of drysuit you recomand?
We dont actually wear drysuits in Tasmania. Water temperatures are between 10 degrees C and 20 so there is no real need. Usually wear thermals and a windproof/waterproof jacket on top and shorts/bathers below. Sorry cant help.