Chances are that the ESP LTD Viper 1000 is also heavier. I have an ESP LTD Viper Deluxe (Seymour Duncan), and a Gibson SG Special HP (24 frets), and the Gibson SG is way lighter than the ESP LTD Viper ... BUT the Viper plays a thousand times better (better sustain, better neck, etc).
Nice video, you cover most important points. The Viper 1000 is sold in Australia close to the price of the Gibson SG Tribute whose comparison would be interesting to see. The Prophecy sounds like more metal oriented, I’m after nice clean tones and a bit of crunch
I never thought I would see the day that an Epiphone anything came this highly optioned. Ebony fretboard? YES. Top shelf electronics? YES. Passable quality control? YES. The LTD's one leg up on the Epiphone is that the LTD is made in South Korea not China like the Epiphone.
tbh I had a pair of Epiphones pickups from South Korea which failed and then I swapped by the new Epiphone Pro buckers from China and now the guitar sounds better than ever.
I think the ltd 1000 series now get made in both the south korean factory and the Indonesia factory, im not sure specifically which models or markets get which, or if it's more or less random chance when you got into a store
I've had both of these guitars - well, I 'have' the Viper and I sold the SG. The SG was great, a nice player and lots of tonal variety. But I found that it just felt slightly cheaper overall - and the neck dive was awful...truly awful. Overall the Viper is just a really solid feeling, and great sounding guitar. There is some neck dive, but I didn't find it to be as bad as the SG at all. If you know what a higher end Indo/Korean LTD feels like, then the Viper absolutely doesn't disappoint. In short, I wasn't inspired by the SG, but I can play the Viper for hours on end and not get bored!
The Vipers start 200 dollars more than the Epiphone. And you just have so many more sound options with the actives on the Epiphone. To me, the Epiphone just has more options available to make it sound the way you want it to.
@leonwilcox-tp2jg My point still stands, the first Viper with actives is still 200 bucks more than the Epiphone and that one is only available in one colour.
Both are amazing guitars, but I'm leaning towards the viper. Maybe not quite as versatile with voicings, but I like it's voice better. Great video.
Yeah it’s tricky for me too… the Viper sounds more solid to me.
I've had the Epiphone SG for a few days. Workmanship and sound are very good. A really nice guitar.
Good stuff! These sound very 80s metal for some reason to my ears 🎵
yea they have a vibe :)
Long live the 80s
Great setting, well played, helpful comparison! Thanks 🙌
Thank you! 😃
Chances are that the ESP LTD Viper 1000 is also heavier.
I have an ESP LTD Viper Deluxe (Seymour Duncan), and a Gibson SG Special HP (24 frets), and the Gibson SG is way lighter than the ESP LTD Viper ... BUT the Viper plays a thousand times better (better sustain, better neck, etc).
Yea the Viper feels heavier!
Does it have a neck dive?
@@onion69420 he says in the video that both guitars have a bit of neck dive.
Pretty sure the body of a standard viper is apx 10mm thicker than a normal sg
The prophecy is thicker than a standard sg. It’s mahogany with a half inch maple cap and weighs 10 pounds. I can’t imagine the viper weighing more 🤔
Just got the Blue Tiger SG!
Nice! The blue one looks also amazing!
How are you finding it? Does it have QC issues and what are the pickups like?
looks goes to the vyper, sound goes to the epi, just ordered the epi in blue Tiger, gotta wait a month for stock but I can't wait
the viper just looks so cool
Agree 😁
Its all in the headstock for me.
Thanks for the video... my next guitar will be the viper 🎸🤟🍻
Great! Let me know what you think when you will have it! :D
Beatiful guitars!!!! Thanks for the video
Thanks :D!
That Viper is stunning!
Great playing and thanks for the video.🤘🏻
Yea it’s a nice one. Thank you! 🤘🏻
I like them both but the bigger Epiphone...😎
👍🏻
Nice video, you cover most important points. The Viper 1000 is sold in Australia close to the price of the Gibson SG Tribute whose comparison would be interesting to see. The Prophecy sounds like more metal oriented, I’m after nice clean tones and a bit of crunch
Yea the Prophecy series is definitely more Metal oriented.
Those Duncan’s are every bit as metal as the fishman lmao
I never thought I would see the day that an Epiphone anything came this highly optioned. Ebony fretboard? YES. Top shelf electronics? YES. Passable quality control? YES. The LTD's one leg up on the Epiphone is that the LTD is made in South Korea not China like the Epiphone.
tbh I had a pair of Epiphones pickups from South Korea which failed and then I swapped by the new Epiphone Pro buckers from China and now the guitar sounds better than ever.
And you’re the type that if it was a gibson you’d say there was no comparison,the Gibson is better,made in the u.s. by a Mexican lmfao
I think the ltd 1000 series now get made in both the south korean factory and the Indonesia factory, im not sure specifically which models or markets get which, or if it's more or less random chance when you got into a store
I've had both of these guitars - well, I 'have' the Viper and I sold the SG. The SG was great, a nice player and lots of tonal variety. But I found that it just felt slightly cheaper overall - and the neck dive was awful...truly awful.
Overall the Viper is just a really solid feeling, and great sounding guitar. There is some neck dive, but I didn't find it to be as bad as the SG at all. If you know what a higher end Indo/Korean LTD feels like, then the Viper absolutely doesn't disappoint.
In short, I wasn't inspired by the SG, but I can play the Viper for hours on end and not get bored!
Fishman is ❤ bit here im loving the viper more.
Somehow that ltd looks huge
Must be the color
Why does every guitar come with jumbo frets these days? LTD guitars are nice but they have railroad tracks for frets
Does Viper tend to lean towards the neck?
Unfortunately a little yes...
Neck dive is not acceptable in 2021! Heavy Grover tuners doesn't help...... Nothing against you, I just hope manufacturers read comments ;-)
Maybe they do from time to time :)
Is the Ltd viper a bigger guitar than the sg in the video? Just curious.
Hey! For me the Viper is a little bigger yes...
@@StringsofRock Ok, thanks for the reply. Btw, the comparison was awesome. Great playing.
@@bbcherrish Thank you :)!
ESP looks better.
viper all day long
LTD all the way.
The Vipers start 200 dollars more than the Epiphone. And you just have so many more sound options with the actives on the Epiphone. To me, the Epiphone just has more options available to make it sound the way you want it to.
@leonwilcox-tp2jg My point still stands, the first Viper with actives is still 200 bucks more than the Epiphone and that one is only available in one colour.
I think if Epiphone made the Prophecy Series with passive Seymour Duncan pickups it would have been much better. Active pickups get old really quick.