This is a great video and the comments super helpful too. This will be my second time replacing the cable. I had seen this video a couple of years ago so very glad to find it again. I have saved it. It would be helpful to tell people if they need to empty the gas or oil before turning on its side. Thank you.
Thanks for making the video mine broke today, they must use a weak alloy to have so many fail. Never had a cable brake on any of my mowers before. I appreciate your video, made understanding the repair much, much, easier!
Great video. Mine broke with less than 2 seasons under my belt, in the same spot. What a disappointment, seems like it’s a very common problem. I personally think it’s too much stress for such a small cable, I had to get my grass cut after it broke so I cut it, pulled the remaining cable by hand and vice gripped the cable to the handle frame and OMG it was hard as hell to pull out far enough to engage the blades.
If you understand the geometry of the blade brake / engagement cable you'll see there's a significant amount of "LEVERAGE" involved to increase the mechanical advantage.
Oh and i do want to thank you for making the video I been stressing over this waiting for my number 1 small engine guy to get here. I watched you video and replaced mine in less than 1 hour thank you.
I just replaced a friend's. Pain in the backside, but IT CAN ALL BE DONE FROM ABOVE. (Model 20199) Free up cable at both ends. Remove front belt cover, remove the front two bolts on the rear cover pry up rear cover along side the engine and slip out old cable. Slip new cable back in, attach spring end to idler. Tighten cable adjustment clamp so it is just barely putting tension on the spring. Attach upper end, Zip tie or tape into wire harness cover, test out, then reattach cover and bolts. Done.
great video. very helpful. thank you. you don't need the wood block to give enough play to get the transmission belt off. if you look where the spring is that needs to be removed, there is a stop. You just loosen that a little and turn it out of the way so the transmission can tilt giving the belt play. super easy.
Mine just broke after owning 2 years.your video is a lifesaver as it saved me time and headache figuring it out. Timemaster and rain don't mix .Disappointing for an expensive mower,
About to change my 2nd one. First one was frayed like yours. 2nd one had dumbass odor all over it (mine). I’d give the repair a 2 on difficulty but about a 7 on frustration. The blood on your hand sums up this repair perfectly.
Had mine for only a year and the cable broke just like yours. Just got the new cable and ready to install after I watch the video a few times. Thanks for the video.
Lol here I go again! its been a year and im replacing another broken cable lol! I love this mower and I wash it after every use. Its definitely water getting in the cable and corroding it. So this time I bought a couple extra cables. Seems this will be a normal thing.
@@howtofixitworkshop so go ahead and order a second replacement is what im understanding 😂 Itll most likely get we at some point in the day everyday. but for a good mower i dont mind replacing a few cables
I think Toro included the metal bracket to fix a bug with old one. I think it has to do with how the spring attaches but like everyone else I got impatient and just replaced the cable.
Mine did the same thing. The open end design when you wash the mower, allows water to run down inside the cable and sit a the bend or bottom of the cable and rust it out. I am not impressed with that design. Now with a new cable, I will keep the open cable covered and not allow water to trickle down inside the cable. I am not Impressed.
I'm going to use a lubricant this spring when I tune up the mower, something like tri-flow or 3-in-1. I haven't seen this in mower repair videos but bicycle repair and tune up videos show it all the time, and the cables are pretty much the same
My Toro dealer says to spray some WD 40 down the cable to displace any water that sits in the cable especially at the curve at the bottom of the handle where your cable rotted. The exact same thing happened to me as well.
I also noticed that taking belt off wasnt necessary just loosen the tension at that middle first lock and be sure to get the proper tension before you tighten it back up with the new one.
But definitely thanks for the video . I was hoping that after waiting for months before doing it that someone would have video doing the whole kit ... Ahhh, lol !
@@marcusshamblin8552 It’s locked in sort of like a latch lock. You have to rotate it 90 degrees so it’s in a horizontal position and it will slide right out. Replace the new one in that same position and then rotate it back down to lock it in.
Does anyone know how to get the ToRo Timemaster 30 Sparkplug out of the Machine? THe Spark plug wrench works great if you have the Motor completely out of the morrow but does not work for me. I still cant get the plug out even using multiple different spark plug Sockets. Again - A PP Design for a $1200 Morrow. I will Definetly not be buying another one. This thing just has Toro Decals on it. That Aint Good Enough for my $1200 Dollars I paid for it. Thanks and great video, helped me out alot.
I agree, very frustrating. I think the cable is cheap metal and gets corroded and rusted with moisture. I should have a link to the replacement part on the video description. The new cable seemed like better quality.
Shortcut...i.e. :not to just change the cable The owner's son (owner JR.) told me that Toro made the kit and parts in the kit to replace parts in the kit "bracket"(my words) parts new different to "fix the problem" of the cable frequently breaking. According to him I am to change all parts in the kit . Not just the cable.
Mine broke the same way with under two seasons and excellent care from me. Mine has an electric start and costs $$$. The cable design is horrible. Water gains ingress from the top of the cable, sits in the cable and rots. PP Design. After watching your video, I am going to try and get the cable on without taking the belt off. Then= I am going to Lube the entire cable with cable lube and keep water out of the top of the cable when washing. I have thought about the other cables also. I paid 1200. This is not acceptable. I have the same amount of Detris under the belt cover also. Bad design. I am going to line the bottom of the dual belt cover with silcone, OR used door insulation tape to keep the grass out. THis is a PP Design for such an expensive morrow. I am Dissapointed in the Design and it is suppose to be a Toro- top of its class. Live and Learn, thanks for the video. I will attempt to replace the cable just like yours. Thanks so much, RH DSD
Yep, I agree with you, not a good design. Seems like it could have been a thicker cable and made out of a corrosion resistant material. Planned obsolescence I guess. Based on the amount of views and feedback and other videos available, it appears to happen to everyone. Thanks for your tips with the lube
No, isn't just you . I have had this mower for a year and the same thing happend and i keeep it in an enclosed trailer. I also had a part of the rubber tire come off the tire. I also had and issue with tire adjuster . all rusted in less than a year. just bought a small toro and its already giving me problems. I am a landscaper I cant afford to keep buying new mowers that break within a year
I replaced my cable using this video. I did not touch the drive belt and just fished the end of the spring around it. I used a Cable Luber device, cable lube and greased the top end. Be aware that the lower Handle-Cable on the Morrow is in the same situation= Water can get in at the top of the cable after cleaning, sit in the bottom of the cable housing all winter and corrode that wire also. This is a PP Design for a 1200$ Morrow. This cable replacement should have been a recall item and not me paying to get a new one after 2 seasons. I am very Disappointed in this TORO . I will Definetely not be buying another one. Toro used to have a solid gold name..??? WHAT HAPPENED...?????
This is BS. Mines broked today. The Selfpropel cable broked a few days ago. The need to make the cable out of better material. Is the cables on the commercial model better?
I kept mine in the garage, cleaned it out, etc... This thing breaks stuff all the time, I have some thick blade grass but still... my little toro hardly ever breaks down and it is ten years old. Regret buying this, should have got a small rider instead. I hate this mower. ETA: the deck clogs up like no other, just a PITA all the way around.
Haha, thick blade grass!... Man really, you regret the purchase? Mine has really only had that one cable break, that's the only non user error that I've experienced. Think I've had it for 4 years now and is mowed a lot of yards. Hope your luck improves!
@@howtofixitworkshop It won't, this thing is a total piece of shit. Regret the purchase? YES. I said "thick" blade, and my neighbors small Cub Cadet rider looks like a professional cut even when the grass has dew on it. The deck clogs up even when the grass is dry, and really the only two things that this mower has going for it is the cutting width which is why I bought it and the engine has so far been solid. The design just sucks.
Gotcha, typo on my part. Funny. Yeah I guess I can relate, mine does miss it's fair share of grass blades. I usually have to cut twice or cut slow in order to get a good clean crisp cut
Update, I'm fixing this thing one more time and selling, the drive belt is really thin and small, and the plastic part of the blade break cable that holds the cable in the handle broke this time.... I got a Bad Boy zero turn and we'll see how that turns out, a lot of money but cuts the time mowing down by at least 80% and the deck doesn't clog up.
I use 3 in 1 oil and run a few drops down that linkage now and then… really helps.
This is a great video and the comments super helpful too. This will be my second time replacing the cable. I had seen this video a couple of years ago so very glad to find it again. I have saved it.
It would be helpful to tell people if they need to empty the gas or oil before turning on its side.
Thank you.
Glad it has been helpful, thank you for the feedback
My teen dtrs help me fix ours because of this tutorial! Thanks!!
That's awesome! You're welcome!
I replaced mine without removing any belts... It could save you a step next time around. Thanks for taking the time to share... Great video.
Awesome, thank you for the feedback. I'll keep that in mind next time mine breaks, they seem to break every other year
Thank you! It took me 20 minutes after viewing your video! Very much appreciated!
You're welcome!!
Thanks for making the video mine broke today, they must use a weak alloy to have so many fail. Never had a cable brake on any of my mowers before. I appreciate your video, made understanding the repair much, much, easier!
You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback!
Great video. Mine broke with less than 2 seasons under my belt, in the same spot. What a disappointment, seems like it’s a very common problem. I personally think it’s too much stress for such a small cable, I had to get my grass cut after it broke so I cut it, pulled the remaining cable by hand and vice gripped the cable to the handle frame and OMG it was hard as hell to pull out far enough to engage the blades.
I bet that was hard! Thanks for the feedback!
If you understand the geometry of the blade brake / engagement cable you'll see there's a significant amount of "LEVERAGE" involved to increase the mechanical advantage.
Oh and i do want to thank you for making the video I been stressing over this waiting for my number 1 small engine guy to get here. I watched you video and replaced mine in less than 1 hour thank you.
You're welcome!
I just replaced a friend's. Pain in the backside, but IT CAN ALL BE DONE FROM ABOVE. (Model 20199) Free up cable at both ends. Remove front belt cover, remove the front two bolts on the rear cover pry up rear cover along side the engine and slip out old cable. Slip new cable back in, attach spring end to idler. Tighten cable adjustment clamp so it is just barely putting tension on the spring. Attach upper end, Zip tie or tape into wire harness cover, test out, then reattach cover and bolts. Done.
great video. very helpful. thank you. you don't need the wood block to give enough play to get the transmission belt off. if you look where the spring is that needs to be removed, there is a stop. You just loosen that a little and turn it out of the way so the transmission can tilt giving the belt play. super easy.
Thank you for the feedback! I'll keep that in mind for next time
Mine just broke after owning 2 years.your video is a lifesaver as it saved me time and headache figuring it out. Timemaster and rain don't mix .Disappointing for an expensive mower,
Glad it helped!
About to change my 2nd one. First one was frayed like yours. 2nd one had dumbass odor all over it (mine). I’d give the repair a 2 on difficulty but about a 7 on frustration. The blood on your hand sums up this repair perfectly.
Dumbass odor? That sounds awful. Yeah it was a pain for sure!
Thank you for the info will try mine just broke great job great video
Thank you and good luck. Let me know if you have any questions
Had mine for only a year and the cable broke just like yours. Just got the new cable and ready to install after I watch the video a few times. Thanks for the video.
Bummer! Good luck, hope you're able to get it fixed quickly!
Lol here I go again! its been a year and im replacing another broken cable lol! I love this mower and I wash it after every use. Its definitely water getting in the cable and corroding it. So this time I bought a couple extra cables. Seems this will be a normal thing.
Bummer... again!
Thanks Josh. Very helpful video. I was about to take everything apart to get to that thing.
Glad I could help!
guy i know gave me one of these because this exact part keeps breaking. thanks for the tutorial. looks doable
You're welcome! Good luck, I think as long as the cable doesn't get wet too much it shouldn't rust and break.
@@howtofixitworkshop so go ahead and order a second replacement is what im understanding 😂 Itll most likely get we at some point in the day everyday. but for a good mower i dont mind replacing a few cables
Good point!
I think Toro included the metal bracket to fix a bug with old one. I think it has to do with how the spring attaches but like everyone else I got impatient and just replaced the cable.
Awesome show I needed a know how and you answered it thanks. 😊
Great video, it really helped me out 👍
Thank you!
Mine did the same thing. The open end design when you wash the mower, allows water to run down inside the cable and sit a the bend or bottom of the cable and rust it out. I am not impressed with that design. Now with a new cable, I will keep the open cable covered and not allow water to trickle down inside the cable. I am not Impressed.
I'm going to use a lubricant this spring when I tune up the mower, something like tri-flow or 3-in-1. I haven't seen this in mower repair videos but bicycle repair and tune up videos show it all the time, and the cables are pretty much the same
My Toro dealer says to spray some WD 40 down the cable to displace any water that sits in the cable especially at the curve at the bottom of the handle where your cable rotted. The exact same thing happened to me as well.
That's a great suggestion, thank you for sharing!
Mine only lasted two years as well. Broke and looked exactly like yours. Other than that really like the mower.
Same here, only thing I wish it had would be turning wheels in the front.
These cables tend to hold moisture under the black plastic coating where the wires bend causing the cable to wear out and eventually snap
Yep, agree
I also noticed that taking belt off wasnt necessary just loosen the tension at that middle first lock and be sure to get the proper tension before you tighten it back up with the new one.
Great instructions. Mine just broke. Off to the Toro store
Man it's frustrating. Mine is only a few years old and always in the shed. Don't understand why it broke. Hope the video helps. Thanks and good luck!
But definitely thanks for the video . I was hoping that after waiting for months before doing it that someone would have video doing the whole kit ... Ahhh, lol !
You're welcome
Helped out a lot thanks
How do you get the black plastic off at the top of the cable? The one that snaps into the handle of the mower
@@marcusshamblin8552 It’s locked in sort of like a latch lock. You have to rotate it 90 degrees so it’s in a horizontal position and it will slide right out. Replace the new one in that same position and then rotate it back down to lock it in.
Can i get a suggestion on what you would do my bolt that sets tension broke on me
I think I may be having a similar issue with mine. If I figure something out I'll send an update
Does anyone know how to get the ToRo Timemaster 30 Sparkplug out of the Machine? THe Spark plug wrench works great if you have the Motor completely out of the morrow but does not work for me. I still cant get the plug out even using multiple different spark plug Sockets. Again - A PP Design for a $1200 Morrow. I will Definetly not be buying another one. This thing just has Toro Decals on it. That Aint Good Enough for my $1200 Dollars I paid for it. Thanks and great video, helped me out alot.
Same here. 2.5 years, broken. Sounds like a Toro recall???
Yeah it's a pain. Probably not a recall, I think it happens often with these cables on all mowers
Mine is under 2 years old and just broke. Why would this break with it being fairly new?
I agree, very frustrating. I think the cable is cheap metal and gets corroded and rusted with moisture. I should have a link to the replacement part on the video description. The new cable seemed like better quality.
Would you happen to have a part #
Hi, this is the part I used : amzn.to/2I9r1Rs
The cable sheild has a tight bend at the bottom of the push bar. It cracks gets water in it and fails.
That makes sense, thanks for sharing!
Helped me big time thank you very much.
You're welcome Ronald, glad it helped
So is that part that will stop the mower from starting??
No it's the part that starts and stops the blade from spinning
Shortcut...i.e. :not to just change the cable
The owner's son (owner JR.) told me that Toro made the kit and parts in the kit to replace parts in the kit "bracket"(my words) parts new different to "fix the problem" of the cable frequently breaking. According to him I am to change all parts in the kit . Not just the cable.
Interesting.. Thanks for sharing
Mine broke the same way with under two seasons and excellent care from me. Mine has an electric start and costs $$$. The cable design is horrible. Water gains ingress from the top of the cable, sits in the cable and rots. PP Design. After watching your video, I am going to try and get the cable on without taking the belt off. Then= I am going to Lube the entire cable with cable lube and keep water out of the top of the cable when washing. I have thought about the other cables also. I paid 1200. This is not acceptable. I have the same amount of Detris under the belt cover also. Bad design. I am going to line the bottom of the dual belt cover with silcone, OR used door insulation tape to keep the grass out. THis is a PP Design for such an expensive morrow. I am Dissapointed in the Design and it is suppose to be a Toro- top of its class. Live and Learn, thanks for the video. I will attempt to replace the cable just like yours. Thanks so much, RH DSD
Yep, I agree with you, not a good design. Seems like it could have been a thicker cable and made out of a corrosion resistant material. Planned obsolescence I guess. Based on the amount of views and feedback and other videos available, it appears to happen to everyone. Thanks for your tips with the lube
Dope
Thanks
No, isn't just you . I have had this mower for a year and the same thing happend and i keeep it in an enclosed trailer. I also had a part of the rubber tire come off the tire. I also had and issue with tire adjuster . all rusted in less than a year. just bought a small toro and its already giving me problems. I am a landscaper I cant afford to keep buying new mowers that break within a year
I replaced my cable using this video. I did not touch the drive belt and just fished the end of the spring around it. I used a Cable Luber device, cable lube and greased the top end. Be aware that the lower Handle-Cable on the Morrow is in the same situation= Water can get in at the top of the cable after cleaning, sit in the bottom of the cable housing all winter and corrode that wire also. This is a PP Design for a 1200$ Morrow. This cable replacement should have been a recall item and not me paying to get a new one after 2 seasons. I am very Disappointed in this TORO . I will Definetely not be buying another one. Toro used to have a solid gold name..??? WHAT HAPPENED...?????
not sure you have to remove the transmission belt...
Thanks for the feedback, it seemed necessary for me, but perhaps it wasn't
This is BS. Mines broked today. The Selfpropel cable broked a few days ago. The need to make the cable out of better material. Is the cables on the commercial model better?
Yeah I agree, they do seem pretty flimsy. Great question about commercial models, I don't know the answer to that.
Mine broke today.
I kept mine in the garage, cleaned it out, etc...
This thing breaks stuff all the time, I have some thick blade grass but still... my little toro hardly ever breaks down and it is ten years old.
Regret buying this, should have got a small rider instead. I hate this mower.
ETA: the deck clogs up like no other, just a PITA all the way around.
Haha, thick blade grass!... Man really, you regret the purchase? Mine has really only had that one cable break, that's the only non user error that I've experienced. Think I've had it for 4 years now and is mowed a lot of yards. Hope your luck improves!
@@howtofixitworkshop It won't, this thing is a total piece of shit. Regret the purchase? YES.
I said "thick" blade, and my neighbors small Cub Cadet rider looks like a professional cut even when the grass has dew on it.
The deck clogs up even when the grass is dry, and really the only two things that this mower has going for it is the cutting width which is why I bought it and the engine has so far been solid.
The design just sucks.
Gotcha, typo on my part. Funny. Yeah I guess I can relate, mine does miss it's fair share of grass blades. I usually have to cut twice or cut slow in order to get a good clean crisp cut
Update, I'm fixing this thing one more time and selling, the drive belt is really thin and small, and the plastic part of the blade break cable that holds the cable in the handle broke this time....
I got a Bad Boy zero turn and we'll see how that turns out, a lot of money but cuts the time mowing down by at least 80% and the deck doesn't clog up.