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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2015
- In this video I am comparing the performance of my Cub Cadet 123 equipped with dozer blade, fluid filled tires, wheel weights weighing about 850lbs. Vs. my Cub Cadet 106 w/ front end loader that weighs 2000lbs, Vs. My Magnatrac MT1800 w/ front end loader weighing 2250lbs. I was surprised how well the little 123 did. I'm pushing a years worth miniature horse/donkey manure mixed with wood pellets
Cinematography by my wife Sweet pea
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Like the real life comparisons of these 3. Awesome video....thanks for the upload!
I can almost smell it! I rototilled for my grandpa for five years each spring. A 3 acre patch. These tools would have been a lifechanger. I'd probably be in the Agribusiness now.
I know that they all do a very good job it's just how you treat each machine
I had a Cub Cadet Model #122 years ago. The tires were filled with fluid and I used chains. It worked great plowing snow.
Awesome rigs ty for sharing
That little thing can do a lot of work. Like the video. Thank you for the video. God Bess
I was looking for a price comparison. They all would do the job, eventually! Fuel usages, but was still enjoyable to watch. Don’t get hurt!
I want to come over and play tractors with you laugh out loud nice equipment though I'm jealous you sure do know how to spread your s*** around LOL
The comparison was real. Cubs rule, got one. Naturally the tracks would do best. But the old mags were always fron heavy till they got their head out and moved attachment points back and added weight were needed. But all three would have done better with someone that knows how each one should be run, and raise blade and bucket on revets8 stroke unless your back dragging to see where your at on leveling ! My measly two pennies !
That is super crazy. Pretty cool
Not meaning to bash anyone here, especially Dugstuff, but did anyone seriously expect tires to give tracks any real competition. Great video and if all you have is tire equipment it can do the job, it just takes more planning. I use a Kubota 55 horse with a six foot bucket quite a bit so I know how challenging a tire equipped tractor can be. Thumbs up for a great video.
The magnatrax would have done an even better job with the little dozer blade.
As was stated before, all good machines. The key point is to size your equipment for the use and to not over work it. Case in point, you should have had a smaller bowl with the smaller Cub. Additionally, pair the right implement to the machine.
I'm not trying to hash on you at all, tho it probably sounds like it, so if so I am sorry. It was a very good video for comparisons. 👍👍
Great vid thanks for posting!
Handy track bucket.
impressive collection !!! I like the headache rack on the 2nd one, but man that looked intimidating , one hard bounce and kablam, your head would be split lol
I thought about putting one on one of mine , now I am unsure about that !
great video thanks for posting !!!! who knew shit could be so interesting
one small tip for you that you might already know , a man told me the only thing bad about the magna tracks , is if you are in reverse going up hill , do not turn or you can break an axle , he had a couple so I would assume he knew what he was talking about .
Thanks for the tip on the Magntrac. I've never broken an axle but have had the tracks come off when backing and turning with a load in the bucket.
And I have never hit my head on the roll bar on the 106 and I have bounced it pretty well.
I really liked the little four wheel drive loader and the track loader. They really surprise me as to what they could move
What four wheel drive loader the other two tractors other than the crawler or rear wheel drive
Justin Altman the two tractors are rear wheel drive, the second one just has front tires that would normally be on a 4wd. Had it been 4wd it wouldn’t of been spinning so much in the shit.
struck is a top knot machine.get the magnatrac 8000,its got the HP to spare.and suggestions, get loader bucket and the larger backhoe. I am getting one ASAP, I made do with a JD 350loader/backhoe but too many hours and expensive parts are killing me
Amazing camera work
Can't belive the number of buttholes that wanted to hate on this video for one thing or another. I thought you did an awsome job, and I love the machine comparison. I have wanted a magna track for YEARS. Thanks for the video.
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First off... Good job Sweet pea!! Good video. Pretty much performed as I thought with the exception of the Magnatrac... which did better than I thought with what I figure was a 12 hp. engine. I thought it might be struggling a bit more than it was. Thanks!!
Each machine did as much as it could ,the Cadets would have finished the job but taken a lot longer time . The magna track of course was a level or two above the others , I think to max the buckets capacity it seemed it needed a bit more weight in the back to make it more stable .
Whats the stroke on the tilt piston s
Very good comparison! Yep, I'm jealous too - 3 nice machines. I've been thinking a bit about getting the Struck. I see they have 2 sizes. The larger MT8000 size seems far more capable with over 4xs the weight and vastly sized engine but the price is huge. ---- Any thoughts about a Struck in general versus something like Kabota 25hp or better sized 30+hp machine ? Thanks!
Im in the same spot you were in back then. Did you end up buying the Struck? I bought property in the mountains and I like the power from the bigger sized tractors but I like the compactness and size of the struck. mh4900. Any insight would be helpful.
@@chazthedad3543 No Chaz, I did not buy it. Instead, we ended up getting an LS 45 hp tractor with a front loader and backhoe 4 wheel drive. Felt too nervous about something so different and unique, so went "more-the-norm". Actually glad we did as it is many times larger of course, and has been very useful for us. We have some woods and it has been great to move logs and messes around, to plow snow once in a while (have a snowblower for that normally), and reaching up fairly high with the front loader (I've been up in it cutting tree limbs and other things while wife operates tractor). -----Hope this helps you Chaz! Good luck!
@@FriendsOfMankind thanks a bunch!
@@chazthedad3543Bought the Struck MH8500 this spring, 24.8HP Kubota diesel powered, front end loader, brush grapple, backhoe w/24” bucket and log forks, track grousers, ROPS, tie-down brackets, the works, for $48K delivered, not quite to my door but close enough to save me a sixteen-hour drive round-trip to pick it up from the factory in Cedarburg Wisconsin.
I priced a similar sized engine, the John Deere 3033R compact utility tractor, with nothing on it, at $46K- before adding things like a front end loader and backhoe. (With everything I’d wanted, the Deere package came to a touch over $80K)
Side note: in order to mount the backhoe on the Deere, I’d have to bring it to the dealership for them to remove the enclosed cab, a ten-hour job for them at dealership labor rates…
I installed the backhoe on my Magnatrac in well under an hour, first time.
PS: I’m finding your comment on the video three years later… hope you’ve found a good match for your needs.
I was surprised to see how well the 123 w/front blade preformed.
You American's and Canadians sure could use a 4in1 bucket in a lot of things.
4 in 1 all over the place here in BC. Super versatile component, as you know
i have to point it out, but why are you running the loaders the same way you ran the tractor with the blade on it
cooooool
Buenas equitmen
Magnatrac for the win! They were all better than a shovel fer sure. However; none of em did any favors to your lawn. :)
I’m jealous. I have a Cubcadet 149 that I want to put a loader on. Did you do that one your self?
Shawn Montalvo it’s a quikway loader I’ve got one just like his .
I know the Struck Magnatracs are stupid expensive, but it would be nice to see how something like the RS1000 or MD196K with blades would've done. Unfortunately they discontinued the loader for the RS1000 for now.
I’ve purchased the Struck Magnatrac MH8500 fully loaded, $48K delivered to an ABF Freight yard. There’s a 24.8HP Kubota diesel under the hood, plenty of power for the size of the machine.
In comparison, I’d gotten a quote for a John Deere tractor of similar engine power, the 3033R, with backhoe, front end loader, and snow blower- at $75K.
Pound for pound, I’d say the Struck machine is on par with the Deere, for half the cost. My ‘Trac, fully loaded with all the goodies I’d wanted, for about the same price as the Deere 3033R with nothing on it but the name.
No disrespect to the John Deere family, they’re a significantly larger company, and have a much larger corporate footprint. Hence the higher costs.
see how the tracked one runs all over the tire one,,see its really only one wheel drive on the rubber tires and then that one tire gets about 20 % traction,,the rubber tire cant compete with the tracks man,,good video
I’m really surprised that Struck hasn’t put Caterpillar out of business. Will probably buy them out or merge the two companies.
Man I'm in love with that 106
Can't beat Trac machine
When you put a tracked vehicle up against a wheeled ( 2 or 4 wheeled drive) the tracked vehicle will do the job quicker. It is due to the ground force effect of the tracks.
Great video!! I've always been partial to those old cubs. At one time I had 3 149's. Toughest little tractors ever made!!!
the bucket and the tracked machine do not seem to be appropriately counter weighted for the weight of the FEL. and the resulting loads
Hence why struck doesn't sell one on their tracked vehicles till you get to contractor size tracked vehicles. It only ways 575 lb if it is the one I'm thinking
You must be a Cub collector, Cubs where I’m located at sell for $$$$$. I would just buy a TL230 and been done. 😉
The second tractor could use maybe a set of bigger tires in the front. Looked like they was sinking in the mud a little.
All good machines, the loader on the magnatrac is that home made? Great video !
Wallabydam The loader on the Magnatrac is mostly homemade. The uprights are original except the upper part where the arms pivot, the lift cylinders, and the cross piece where the headlight are mounted.
AAGH THE PUNS ARE REAL!!
I'm kinda jealous.
Me too😂
I like the FINAL
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I am buying a house with 1 acre that needs more than 25 stumps of various sizes pulled and then loam dumped and graded then seeded. Im considering a Struck MH 5000 with two loader attachments and a backhoe. too big fir this prop? figure I can use to make money after fixing yard...
Jack O join
Why do so many feel the need to max the throttle no matter what they are doing with a tractor. You'll move more material when you find the right rpm/gear balance
Max hp is 3600 - 3800rpm and these engine are designed to run all day long at that rpm. I do agree that when not working them you don't need to run them at that. But when working them you should. Plus the Cub 123 is a hydro and it would be actually be damaging to the hydo to work it hard at a lower rpm.
How many gallon per minute hydraulic pump
7 gpm pump on both
@@DUGSTUFF thanks
What runs the hydrolics on the 106
oil of course ha ha
@@warrenscott8491 duh lol. I mean where’s the pump
Try it on a muddy day. Oh wait….
EnjoyeD
Tracks rule
Your tracked machine is cool and can push the most for obvious reason. I for one would of taken my time with the second piece of equipment so my yard did not get ripped up.
The Magnatracs seem like they are pretty basic. I have a similar machine called a Pittsbull. It is about the size of the magnatrac but is hydra stat drive. It has a 30hp diesel and weighs 3 tons. It has 12” wide tracks with grousers.
Where can I find any info on this pittsbull that u talked about?... I have searched everywhere, all I ever find is dogs and a rapper.
@@kristopherbuchanan974 because it doesn't exist and he is a troll. Or not English as his first language which makes finding this equipment just as hard. Struck is the only one to make a small at home use tracked tractor.
Take it easy on that 106...jiggling the bucket like that to get it empty is eventually going to break something...that track machine is awesome...that's a Tecumseh in that?...what output for such a small engine.....also idle down before shutting it off
Ill take the cubs over that tracked one ..i just love cubs..
If ya look at the side wall of your front tires you will see the tire rotation ,, and that you have them on backwards,, just put the left on the right and vice versa,,,
Quikway loader .
Даже досматривать не стал, когда увидел, что он опилки только с третьего подхода подвинул! Вы бы ещё пух лебяжий бульдозером толкали!
The 123 is over revving . Youll be putting a rod in that soon. the 106 has a blown head gasket. I hear the tell tale chirping. cool machine though.
+guod118 Yes the 123 was running too high, fixed now. The 106 has sounded that way for years. I've experienced other cubs with blown head gaskets and they are hard to start cold, this one starts fine. thanks for your interest.
There will be no comparison
The only thing I hate about those magnatrack units is that it's like the designers have zero sense of reality. Even their dozer blade is tiny. They build this big tracked machine then have tiny implements. The bucket you have isn't even the width of the tracks. What good is a bucket that's narrower than the tracks? When you were pushing the manure the narrow bucket had the one track riding up on the pile which put the machine and loader at an angle creating an uneven bed. The blade on the smallest tractor you used is wider than both buckets on the bigger tractors and the bigger wheeled tractor had a wider bucket than the magnatrack. As far as material moved the Magnatrack was fastest, the bigger cub was second and the small cub was third. As far as finished quality, levelness the order is opposite. The blade did best even with the small tractor size. The bucket on the larger cub is at least the width of the tires so you got a level push. The Magna track while moving the material fastest would take the longest to get a nice landscape and level.
I would never buy a Magnatrack. The last thing you should have to do with new equipment is modify the obvious right out of the box. While I have seen Magnatracks with full width loaders they'll have manual dump instead of hydraulics. For the kind of money they are charging for these machines such massive and obvious oversights would scare the shit out of me thinking about having to repair and maintain the rest of the machine. Magnatrack seems to be a company happy with the phrase "good enough" and that phase has been the cause for every repair or maintenance task that resulted in a mechanic's dreams of ill will for the designer. For that kind of money I'd either find something that at least looks like it makes sense or design and build my own.
Hı ı loved how much be prices is I lke to own good toys
If it were me I’d sell all 3 and buy a sub compact tractor or compact tractor but that little magnatrax is cool. It looks bigger than the magnatrax 1000 which I think is their newest model. I like that you have an actual loader on yours tho. Pretty nice man good job demonstrating the differences in weight and pushing power with those 3 machines
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observation: Why is the Magn atrak competing?
2000 lbs....are you sure>? That is a 600 some lb tractor, with maybe 400-500 lbs of loader etc....Where is all the weight coming from? I do not see 800lbs of weights...Just saying. A VERY similar sized case Loader, even WITH weight was about 1500 lbs.
It weighed 2200 lbs at a tractor pull with me sitting on it.
You could not have picked the worst day to do this now you have destroyed the yard Doug it up should have picked a day that was hotter where the ground was dry
NO comparison.
Wait till the tracks come off that magna track that’ll be fun to work on all that 💩 poop
I haven't had that problem since I put on new tracks years ago.
Wait until you bury that kabota up to the axles, that will be some real fun!
Maggie wins.
lol
Holy crap that's a lot of crap!
Right?😂😂😂
you did do a great job but of course you know had you added tracks like a dozer it would probably have 10 times the pushing power and traction,,,love it but add tracks man and make it a bad ass.
you need to learn to idle down before turning off. no need to rev engines that high take care of them and they will take care of you.
i agree revving that high does not make it more effective and is harmful to the engine. the fact is a push blade really isnt gong to lug the engine down much anyways. 3/4 throttle is plenty
The last sentence was unnecessary.
Start a worm farm and sell the worms online, instead of wasting all the good stuff and a bunch of fuel and time :-)
Thats horseshit
The loader tractor was about worthless
I'll put it up against you, a shovel and wheel barrow any day
The Kagan track bucket is too far away from the tractor!
Could have had that cleaned up in 5 minutes with a real tractor and shoved all those machines onto the pile to boot.
Thank you for the helpful tip. I'll go to nearest tractor store and go in debt $25.000 and buy a "real" tractor so I can be a "real" man like you. btw your content on your You tube channel is very weak
Really got your panties in a twist. Ever think of buying a used tractor? You probably have more time, effort and money in those things than a good used tractor would have cost you. Just trying to get you to think about things a little differently. I don't have a TH-cam channel so not sure what that dig was about.
David Roberts BLAH!
David Roberts
Tractors are expensive. You get what you pay for. 25k doesn’t get you much tractor, unless you add a lot of sweat and repairs.
beats a shovel they are small class machines
For the price of a magnatrac I can buy a 450C JD nonsense...