I was involved in wildland fire suppression in interior Alaska for several decades. Alaska State Forestry and BLM in Alaska used surplus U.S. Army World War II packboards, that actually function similarly to your homemade frame. They were used on the fireline to carry Mark III and Mark 26 pumps, chainsaws, 5 gallon Jerry cans of fuel, cases of C-rations and MREs, 5 gallon cubitainers of potable water, 5 gallon Fedco water bladders with shoulder straps, etc. They also made a comfortable, dry seat. ... Firewood, fish, game, or a small outboard motor could be carried on one. They are extremely versatile. ... I looked online before typing this and they are still available for sale in new and used condition. ... I like your homemade pack frame. Thanks
Daggum! I bet your backs were sore at the end of each and every day brother. I appreciate your service in such a hard and thankless field. I am glad you were able to stay safe.
Yes I just watched your video on the trapper Nelson pack and although I don't have one myself I have known some people who have and there all well and fine but there is one thing that I would change about the frame design I would put a shelf on the bottom of the frame for a bed roll and or a tarp shelter sir and I thank you for your videos I have learned a lot from them and I thank you for your teaching once again sir
Thank you for this great information! About 8 years ago I saw my first Trapper Nelson, so I had to have/make one. This was a first time creating anything like this, which means dying the canvas, making the straps, bending the wooden slat and so on. From there I have made 8 more each with my own variation. It has been a wonderful experience leading in to many other creations. Thanks again
Я люблю это! Мне особенно нравится, как я могу загрузить в него не только рюкзак, но и другие вещи, привязав их ремнями или ремнями. Между спиной и рамой сохраняется хороший воздушный зазор, поэтому вентиляция хорошая! Завтра мы празднуем День Благодарения здесь, в США, извините за поздний ответ, и я надеюсь, что у вас будет замечательный праздничный сезон.
I have had mine since 1981 and it was well aged then. It fits my back so perfectly. With one large bag and a smaller pocket for "to.hand" plus all the ways tomtie onto it, its much handier than modern packs with restrictive pocket sizes. What I wonder is how old mine is. The sides are held on with hemp rope stitched into the seam. Wide straps are army cotton and all other straps are leather. Body is canvas. Lable long gone. I have had to split some cracks which were there before I owned it. One half cracked upright and one cracked and splinted horizontal. I am currently refurmishing it for use. The frame has been resplinted and wrapped in duck tape and broken leather is being replaced with nylon. I love my pack.
Hard to say but there was such a surplus of OD webbing in the 50's due to WWII and Korea that with your description it could be from the 50's and into the early 60's. The coloration of fabrics and webbing tend to go more tan into the 60's and on. I hope that helps some. You can share a pic on my FB group if you like to get some more input and direction! Happy camping friend!
Great looking Trapper Nelson! Excellent work sir,love it! If you could make more I would get one? Nice mention of Dave Canterbury I've been following him for 14 years. Love traditional stuff keep up the great work!
Thank you brother! I may be convinced to make one but I have intentions on making a video and drawing plans up in the summer when I have more time. If you reckon you have or can learn the skills and have the basic equipment, it is pretty cost friendly.
This is a great idea and just the right size, I’ve had pack frames similar to the Trapper Nelson , the Scout pack makes a really good addition, I’m definitely going to put one together, thanks for posting my friend 👍😁🇺🇸
Great video!!!!! Love your version of the pack. The leather straps are a great idea. The popularity of these packs has really driven up the prices in the past few years. Still waiting on the right one to pop up. Ready for the Duluth series - great packs as well. I have a couple of them as well as a couple of Frost River. Top notch gear.
Thank you! A Frost River pack is something on my wish list. I'd love to do a side by side comparison of my Monarch #3 or Duluth food bag. They look like they drip quality.
Fascinating and interesting. You did a great job building your pack, impressive. I did a bit of comparing wearing my rather heavy hunting pack and carrying the rifle, with and without using the small waist belt. For me, I found taking just that little bit of weight from the shoulder straps and transferring it onto the waist belt made a large difference in comfort for my shoulders.
Interesting video. As a Scout in the 1970’s, I had the Haversack 573. Of course it's way different, but I still like the canvas packs. Good presentation.
Outstanding Video! True, we do not need these huge Packs to carry our gear. By using a smaller pack such as the Yucca, it makes the user pare down the amount of gear taken.
Were I to build a “trapper nelson” I’d incorporate the US Army hardwood lip at the bottom of the ladder frame. Approximately 3-3.5 inches wide. When used as a scout pack the bag itself, the duffel as it were, would rest over said lip making it visually irrelevant. However having that “shelf” enables a variety of other carries, sans the bag: a military surplus radio, rolls of commo wire, rolls of razor wire, a trappers bucket or open basket. A large galvanized tub. Ammo cans. Or even a caged animal. If I’m tolerating a 90 degree ladder frame against my spine, I’m definitely making it the most versatile pack/ pack board possible. A word of caution from a 51 year old who’s tried on many trapper nelson’s at flea markets & gun shows throughout the 80’s & 90’s. Back when they were more ubiquitous and could be purchased for $10. They’re uncomfortable. Bigtime uncomfortable. For that matter the triangular Roy Croft frame is by far the easier to wear of the two common homemade stick frames. Ladder frames are merciless. Great video & nice build 👍🏼
I have a more modern idea on this that has semi matured several times. I have an original Canadian Army alluminium packboard, complete with leather tumpline and accessories, that has been in my collection for many years. The shear potential is what fascinated me. Then a few years ago I found a French army folding frame that peaked my interest as well (no idea the history on it!) as paired with my Russian Veshmeshok it makes a brutally effective bushcraft carry option. Maybe even better than my Norwegian Telemark ruck!
@@honorableoutfitters my field use is limited but my opinion is that there is a reason it was used for at least a few hundred years, including into the present for large and bulky loads. I like it.
That is a nicely done pack. I have two of the Trapper Nelson packs. I think the eyelet screws just going through the canvas needs to be a bit different as that is wear the canvas tears out. I am going to reinforce mine with leather. You might put gromments but I am not sure if they cince tight. The canvas gets stained so you might want to die it darker. The canvas can be repaired with canvas patches or leather. The leather shoulder straps might be better using cinch strap leather. Mainly latigo. I have thought of macking one with a bamboo frame but not that ambitious and sourcing quality bamboo here is not that easy. There was a company, I believe from Oregon that made one using cane from willows instead of canvas on the backboard back in the 1970s. No longer in business. Not sure how much colaberation Duluth Pack does but I bet Frost River would listen to ideas. They make good packs and at one time their employees were from Duluth Pack. Of course that was 22 years ago, they have probably retired by now.
That is awesome feedback my friend and I love the idea of reinforcing the eyelet holes with leather. It would add to the rugged look too! After making the video I had a few more ideas that came to me like putting one more eyelet above the top most one because the D ring is secure but not as secure due to the wire's ring...hard to describe but that is something I plan on changing. I also figured out a better way of lacing that will be in a future video.
The one on the left of the screen is a great oven which is showcased on this video: th-cam.com/video/LPDUW7Yd20c/w-d-xo.html and the black box on the board table behind me is a travel gramophone that my mother bought me for Christmas this year and is showcased in this video: th-cam.com/video/F-8N2DlRvYM/w-d-xo.html Cheers brother!
@@honorableoutfitters In my backpacking days, I liked Jansport aluminum frames with the mesh insert to allow some ventilation. A padded hip belt was a welcome feature. I liked to carry the sleep system low, so the frame and bungees did it for me. There was a fad for using mountain climbing packs with internal stays for backpacking: I did that for a while and then went back to external frames.
Awesome video! I'm considering building one of these for my scout troop. They're just getting back into backpacking, and many of them don't have packs. I think building their own packs could be a cool project to undertake for the boys, plus it will give them the chance to learn some essential woodworking and sewing skills. And, at the end, they'll have a cool pack to show for it! The only thing I'm struggling with is finding accurate measurements. I've come across some online, but it seems they're meant for a different type of pack. Are the cross braces all the same size and bent at the same angle? Thanks for sharing your version of the Nelson Trapper pack
There were 3 different sizes. I would suggest customized packs because the width of shoulder blades and individual height can be very different from historic builds of people. I used 3/8" pine, soaked in hot water over night or a couple days (mileage may vary) and used a large paint can to bend 2 around (o) with bar squeeze clamps for the most control. Left them to dry for a week or 2. Make sure to cut them longer and trim from each side to get the desired width (I have yet to find a board stretcher) ;) I hope this helps. I had intended to make a how-to but the step by step process with recording is very involved.
I don't either. The nostalgia I am sure has something to do with it but I see them hung up as decor more than anyone actually using them. A pity in my opinion but to each their own.
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I was involved in wildland fire suppression in interior Alaska for several decades. Alaska State Forestry and BLM in Alaska used surplus U.S. Army World War II packboards, that actually function similarly to your homemade frame. They were used on the fireline to carry Mark III and Mark 26 pumps, chainsaws, 5 gallon Jerry cans of fuel, cases of C-rations and MREs, 5 gallon cubitainers of potable water, 5 gallon Fedco water bladders with shoulder straps, etc. They also made a comfortable, dry seat. ... Firewood, fish, game, or a small outboard motor could be carried on one. They are extremely versatile. ... I looked online before typing this and they are still available for sale in new and used condition. ... I like your homemade pack frame. Thanks
Daggum! I bet your backs were sore at the end of each and every day brother. I appreciate your service in such a hard and thankless field. I am glad you were able to stay safe.
How could I not like this one?
Thank you brother!
I’ll b waiting for the build video 😊 I’ve made the scout guard rope I use it all the time
I will try to get on it this holiday break in December. Time...always time, lol. Happy Thanksgiving friend!
Yes I just watched your video on the trapper Nelson pack and although I don't have one myself I have known some people who have and there all well and fine but there is one thing that I would change about the frame design I would put a shelf on the bottom of the frame for a bed roll and or a tarp shelter sir and I thank you for your videos I have learned a lot from them and I thank you for your teaching once again sir
Thank you for this great information! About 8 years ago I saw my first Trapper Nelson, so I had to have/make one. This was a first time creating anything like this, which means dying the canvas, making the straps, bending the wooden slat and so on. From there I have made 8 more each with my own variation. It has been a wonderful experience leading in to many other creations. Thanks again
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Я люблю это! Мне особенно нравится, как я могу загрузить в него не только рюкзак, но и другие вещи, привязав их ремнями или ремнями. Между спиной и рамой сохраняется хороший воздушный зазор, поэтому вентиляция хорошая! Завтра мы празднуем День Благодарения здесь, в США, извините за поздний ответ, и я надеюсь, что у вас будет замечательный праздничный сезон.
Nice. A lot like Vietnam pack board. Comfort depends on how much weight you are carrying.
Totally agree! I really need to make a waist strap to help because if it is laden down with more than 30 lbs the shoulders get weary.
I have had mine since 1981 and it was well aged then. It fits my back so perfectly. With one large bag and a smaller pocket for "to.hand" plus all the ways tomtie onto it, its much handier than modern packs with restrictive pocket sizes. What I wonder is how old mine is. The sides are held on with hemp rope stitched into the seam. Wide straps are army cotton and all other straps are leather. Body is canvas. Lable long gone. I have had to split some cracks which were there before I owned it. One half cracked upright and one cracked and splinted horizontal. I am currently refurmishing it for use. The frame has been resplinted and wrapped in duck tape and broken leather is being replaced with nylon. I love my pack.
Hard to say but there was such a surplus of OD webbing in the 50's due to WWII and Korea that with your description it could be from the 50's and into the early 60's. The coloration of fabrics and webbing tend to go more tan into the 60's and on. I hope that helps some. You can share a pic on my FB group if you like to get some more input and direction! Happy camping friend!
Great video! Great job
Great video. Keep up the great work. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Thanks brother! 👍
Great looking Trapper Nelson! Excellent work sir,love it! If you could make more I would get one? Nice mention of Dave Canterbury I've been following him for 14 years. Love traditional stuff keep up the great work!
Thank you brother! I may be convinced to make one but I have intentions on making a video and drawing plans up in the summer when I have more time. If you reckon you have or can learn the skills and have the basic equipment, it is pretty cost friendly.
@honorableoutfitters okay cool I'll be sure to look out for the video if you do it. Thank you for the response 🙏
Awesome content as ever!
Blessings from the Netherlands.
Thank you brother! You too!
Excellent lesson! As usual you've knocked out of the park, Brother!
Thank you kindly!
This is a great idea and just the right size, I’ve had pack frames similar to the Trapper Nelson , the Scout pack makes a really good addition, I’m definitely going to put one together, thanks for posting my friend 👍😁🇺🇸
I am glad it inspired you brother. I am rather happy with it. Even happier than I thought. Cheers!
Great video!!!!! Love your version of the pack. The leather straps are a great idea. The popularity of these packs has really driven up the prices in the past few years. Still waiting on the right one to pop up. Ready for the Duluth series - great packs as well. I have a couple of them as well as a couple of Frost River. Top notch gear.
Thank you! A Frost River pack is something on my wish list. I'd love to do a side by side comparison of my Monarch #3 or Duluth food bag. They look like they drip quality.
@@honorableoutfitters love the cliff jacobson pack
Fascinating and interesting. You did a great job building your pack, impressive.
I did a bit of comparing wearing my rather heavy hunting pack and carrying the rifle, with and without using the small waist belt. For me, I found taking just that little bit of weight from the shoulder straps and transferring it onto the waist belt made a large difference in comfort for my shoulders.
I plan on making a belt for that purpose. Any bit helps especially as the trail gets long by the end of the day.
Interesting video. As a Scout in the 1970’s, I had the Haversack 573. Of course it's way different, but I still like the canvas packs. Good presentation.
Those are just a bit smaller and perfect size for a light weekend trip or day bag. Thank you the compliment friend!
Outstanding Video! True, we do not need these huge Packs to carry our gear. By using a smaller pack such as the Yucca, it makes the user pare down the amount of gear taken.
Thanks friend and I appreciate the support!
Very creative.
Thank you! 😊
Were I to build a “trapper nelson” I’d incorporate the US Army hardwood lip at the bottom of the ladder frame. Approximately 3-3.5 inches wide. When used as a scout pack the bag itself, the duffel as it were, would rest over said lip making it visually irrelevant. However having that “shelf” enables a variety of other carries, sans the bag: a military surplus radio, rolls of commo wire, rolls of razor wire, a trappers bucket or open basket. A large galvanized tub. Ammo cans. Or even a caged animal. If I’m tolerating a 90 degree ladder frame against my spine, I’m definitely making it the most versatile pack/ pack board possible. A word of caution from a 51 year old who’s tried on many trapper nelson’s at flea markets & gun shows throughout the 80’s & 90’s. Back when they were more ubiquitous and could be purchased for $10. They’re uncomfortable. Bigtime uncomfortable. For that matter the triangular Roy Croft frame is by far the easier to wear of the two common homemade stick frames. Ladder frames are merciless. Great video & nice build 👍🏼
That is a good suggestion, thank you for that!
I have a more modern idea on this that has semi matured several times. I have an original Canadian Army alluminium packboard, complete with leather tumpline and accessories, that has been in my collection for many years. The shear potential is what fascinated me. Then a few years ago I found a French army folding frame that peaked my interest as well (no idea the history on it!) as paired with my Russian Veshmeshok it makes a brutally effective bushcraft carry option.
Maybe even better than my Norwegian Telemark ruck!
Tell me your thoughts on the tumpline. I don't have a pack that has one but the idea of it just looks painful or at the very least uncomfortable
@@honorableoutfitters my field use is limited but my opinion is that there is a reason it was used for at least a few hundred years, including into the present for large and bulky loads.
I like it.
That is a nicely done pack. I have two of the Trapper Nelson packs. I think the eyelet screws just going through the canvas needs to be a bit different as that is wear the canvas tears out. I am going to reinforce mine with leather. You might put gromments but I am not sure if they cince tight. The canvas gets stained so you might want to die it darker. The canvas can be repaired with canvas patches or leather. The leather shoulder straps might be better using cinch strap leather. Mainly latigo. I have thought of macking one with a bamboo frame but not that ambitious and sourcing quality bamboo here is not that easy. There was a company, I believe from Oregon that made one using cane from willows instead of canvas on the backboard back in the 1970s. No longer in business. Not sure how much colaberation Duluth Pack does but I bet Frost River would listen to ideas. They make good packs and at one time their employees were from Duluth Pack. Of course that was 22 years ago, they have probably retired by now.
That is awesome feedback my friend and I love the idea of reinforcing the eyelet holes with leather. It would add to the rugged look too! After making the video I had a few more ideas that came to me like putting one more eyelet above the top most one because the D ring is secure but not as secure due to the wire's ring...hard to describe but that is something I plan on changing. I also figured out a better way of lacing that will be in a future video.
I loved this video, the black box behind you is an oven or a cupboard? Thanks Andrew
The one on the left of the screen is a great oven which is showcased on this video: th-cam.com/video/LPDUW7Yd20c/w-d-xo.html and the black box on the board table behind me is a travel gramophone that my mother bought me for Christmas this year and is showcased in this video: th-cam.com/video/F-8N2DlRvYM/w-d-xo.html Cheers brother!
Nice work brother. The pack looks great!
Thanks man, we need to get together to make you one!
@@honorableoutfitters heck yeah.
NOW we know! The Trapper Nelson frame has a lot going for it.
Thank you brother. Did you have a favorite pack frame?
@@honorableoutfitters In my backpacking days, I liked Jansport aluminum frames with the mesh insert to allow some ventilation. A padded hip belt was a welcome feature. I liked to carry the sleep system low, so the frame and bungees did it for me. There was a fad for using mountain climbing packs with internal stays for backpacking: I did that for a while and then went back to external frames.
Another great video
I appreciate that!
Awesome video! I'm considering building one of these for my scout troop. They're just getting back into backpacking, and many of them don't have packs. I think building their own packs could be a cool project to undertake for the boys, plus it will give them the chance to learn some essential woodworking and sewing skills. And, at the end, they'll have a cool pack to show for it! The only thing I'm struggling with is finding accurate measurements. I've come across some online, but it seems they're meant for a different type of pack. Are the cross braces all the same size and bent at the same angle? Thanks for sharing your version of the Nelson Trapper pack
There were 3 different sizes. I would suggest customized packs because the width of shoulder blades and individual height can be very different from historic builds of people. I used 3/8" pine, soaked in hot water over night or a couple days (mileage may vary) and used a large paint can to bend 2 around (o) with bar squeeze clamps for the most control. Left them to dry for a week or 2. Make sure to cut them longer and trim from each side to get the desired width (I have yet to find a board stretcher) ;) I hope this helps. I had intended to make a how-to but the step by step process with recording is very involved.
@@honorableoutfitters Thanks that helps a lot. What type of Canvas did you use for the corset?
I use one the trapline every year
They'll carry the load for sure!
Noting the pack straps,did you replace the shoulder straps? If you did ,beautiful , if not, wonderful storage job!
The Yucca's straps are original, I just got lucky :)
Looks nicely done! How'd you attach the ribs? Based on the position of the uprights, am I correct in my assumption that the ribs are not bent?
I chiseled out a seat for them in the uprights and screwed them diwn with 2 screws diagonal. They are steamed and bent.
Would like to know how to pack up a meat quarter or trapping gear and the like on the frame. I have an original in great shape.
Thank you, I'll put it on the list to cover! Happy Thanksgiving friend!
OK you got me to subscribe on the second video that I watched of your
Thank you brother, I hope they continue to help and entertain you!
Very Cool pack, still don’t understand why everyone who sells these thinks they are worth $200
I don't either. The nostalgia I am sure has something to do with it but I see them hung up as decor more than anyone actually using them. A pity in my opinion but to each their own.
why? because they are ass-cool! just got mine today, will have to recreate near everything, though... 😂
That can be a fun and engaging project but the best part is you can customize the bag to fit your personal needs and desires. Cheers brother!