After listening to the entire show, all 3 of you guys said some wise stuff about my Jags. TY for the outside perspective as to how everyone is looking at out current situation. You guys earned my sub.
Definitely a lot better than people give him credit for. First year under Urban Meyer was a firestorm. Second year had to learn a new offense and still went to the playoffs taking the Chiefs to the end of the game in the Divisional round. Third year had a piss poor offense line that got Lawrence hurt four times in the last six games of the season. Not to mention Kirk was lost for the season during the Bengals game and Ridley running the wrong routes throughout the season. Have a feeling the best is yet to come!
@@Chrism7178 4 in 1 though. 1 tipped by the Dline, 1 WR went the wrong way, 1 valid int (Engram said it was his fault for not settling in the gap in the zone), and 1 no called PI. Things happen, oh and he still lead them to a comeback win in this same game so he made up for it.
@@danielwilliams8726 What would you rather win 7 or 8 games with Lawrence and pay him 300 million to finish in third place or have Minshew with better stats for 300 million less to spend on the rest of the team?
the diff w mahomes contract and almost any other is that he can depend on the chiefs drafting well. him taking less money isn’t such a gamble because they will put a team around him that can help him win.
The problem with these kinds of discussions is if your a fan of a particular player like Lawrence, Tua or Kyler Murray then you will give them the benefit of the doubt instead of being fair...with that said there is no Logical reason any of those 3 Quarterbacks can be judged as better than Jared Goff the last 2 Seasons based on Production and Results💯
based on box score sure, but eye test, circumstance, etc, think u could reasonably argue tlaw > goff with little problem. Better arm, better ball placement (tight window throws + deep balls), better pocket presence. I'd personally take goff > tua and kyler, however.
@@noahmelt22 you can also reasonably argue that if you put Trevor in same circumstances he won't be as successful as Goff... people can watch same players and see them differently because I See Goff with better arm, Better ball placement and waaaay better pocket presence and Decision making only thing he has over Goff is mobility 💯💯💯
@@CreaseChannel that's a lie...neither running back played full season wr1 missed a game maybe 2...and his defense was one of the worst also missing offensive lineman and he still won Division title and 2 playoff games...stop repeating media propaganda
@@CreaseChannel he may not be Flashy or Dynamic and run all over the field but he is a Winner and has Elite Production and Not Empty Stats on a Losing team
Until week 12 vs the Bengals T Law improvised, because our center was the worst in the league... This season it had become one of his primary weapons, Just being mobile and improvising... After his leg injury you could see he can't move out of the pocket anymore and has to stand there, while the defense have an extra corner on the field, because they know TLaw can't really move out of the pocket and even with 4 guys the O Line will collapse... I don't understand people who dont watch film and highlights and just say but look at his Team Stats... For example in week 2 against the Chiefs TLaw threw 4 TD passes and 3 were dropped... You can see the change of mobility and playingstyle after week 12
@@pickasideThe Point is Goff overcame the DROPPED PASSES and a BAD DEFENSE and still led Lions to 12 wins the Division title and won 2 playoff games... Lawrence on the other hand has NEVER overcome those kinds of obstacles. Goff doesn't look Flashy or Dynamic but he is Clearly better than Trevor..... RESULTS MATTER
@@FightThePower1 Goff also plays with a better coaching staff, better offensive line, better run game, and better receiving core. Trevor Lawrence in the same situation does the same thing if not better
Trevor Lawrence has shown to be mid with a good team around him. We can’t ignore all his fumbles. Dude is a better version of Daniel Jones unless he shows something this year and wins at least a playoff game
good team around him? Oline is bottom 3 in the league last season, running game was 30th, and they don't have a #1 WR. They had a rusty Ridley which is not close to who he used to be, Kirk who is a good #2 and Jones who was a good #3. Their best weapon in the passing game was Evan Engram and he is probably around a top 8-10 TE? Stop acting like he has a comparable group around him to these other QBs.
I remember clearly Lamar receiver dropped touchdowns it was cmon Lamar. Moran with these bs stars to back up bs. But when someone else use stats now he Mr judge the tape. This wanna be skip bayless schtick gets old
One game against the Steelers yes they dropped the football. This is 17 games. lol. Patrick Mahomes 17 games led the league in drops. Jags Wr core ranked in the mid 20#s the last 3 years. 25th going into the season. This guy in this video is speaking facts.
Imagine trying to be a good defense with an offense that basically averaged 3 TOS down the stretch I don’t have a problem with Trevor he’s good but consistently deflecting any blame from him is getting old Defense dealt with injuries and a turnover pledged offensive= they suck Oline dealt with and played thru injuries = they sucked Pass catcher= 10th fewest drops in the league guys playing outta position (X,Y) Kirk, and say injuries = they suck Trevor dealt with injuries the back half of the year= excuses we wouldn’t dare give any other top 10 QB in the league
Well it's a collective of things. Wrs really are mid and dealt with injuries. Like his X wr was Zay Jones and he missed 8 games last season. Ridley had to play X and thats when he struggles getting open. O line ranked 31st . Defense ranked 30th. Pederson handing the playcalling to Press Taylor so really this falls on Doug Pederson. You name one QB that could win a playoff game with Marvin Jones Zay Jones & Kirk?
@@CreaseChannel Wat does that have to do with taking care of the football?...None of these things = QB giving ball to the wrong team. Muddier pocket, yes. But performance under pressure is a thing. If he sucks anytime his blocking isnt great then thats a HIM problem. This the NFL. The pocket wont be perfect every dropback.
@Chrism7178 when noones getting open and the run not going well he tends to play hero ball. If you a qb and wrs running the wrong routes not catching the ball not getting open what are you gonna do?
@@CreaseChannel "When he misses reads". He struggles beyond his first read. He only completes the speed out with consistency. Thats still not a good excuse for TOs. There are QBs that have less that have far less TOs. His TOs are on him.
@@CreaseChannel Extend the play, move the defense find a scramble lane or broken play completion, or THROW THE BALL AWAY?...He's not good enoigh to play HERO. So play withing your self.
It’s honestly people who don’t follow the team who think he’s not good. For what he’s been through he’s a great QB. We had a great off season, we will see this year. I think he has a breakout season. Also if Herbert can get a pass so can Trevor.
@@saseddrickwashington8546 he's wrong lol. put the tape on and watch how tlaw get sold by his team routinely. besides, this deal is gonna look good once it actually kicks in
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Never heard of you guys but dude in the middle says some intelligent stuff to open the show. Well said sir.
After listening to the entire show, all 3 of you guys said some wise stuff about my Jags. TY for the outside perspective as to how everyone is looking at out current situation. You guys earned my sub.
All these couch warriors showing up saying that "Trevor sucks" are gonna be the first ones claiming to be "fans of his since day 1" mark my words lol.
“I got goosebumps and I don’t like the guy” Drew is always so real😂
Definitely a lot better than people give him credit for. First year under Urban Meyer was a firestorm. Second year had to learn a new offense and still went to the playoffs taking the Chiefs to the end of the game in the Divisional round. Third year had a piss poor offense line that got Lawrence hurt four times in the last six games of the season. Not to mention Kirk was lost for the season during the Bengals game and Ridley running the wrong routes throughout the season. Have a feeling the best is yet to come!
5 interceptions in 2 playoff games?🤣😂😆. Dude is ass ass
@@Chrism7178 4 in 1 though. 1 tipped by the Dline, 1 WR went the wrong way, 1 valid int (Engram said it was his fault for not settling in the gap in the zone), and 1 no called PI. Things happen, oh and he still lead them to a comeback win in this same game so he made up for it.
Trevor Lawrence is a good QB end of discussion
He's worth the money
@@mellybo0 yes fight me
@@mellybo0how ? Minshew is better and chats 300 million less
@@danielwilliams8726 What would you rather win 7 or 8 games with Lawrence and pay him 300 million to finish in third place or have Minshew with better stats for 300 million less to spend on the rest of the team?
@@AlexRoth-vd1js if you think Minshew will have better stats than Trevor your stupid
Dude, in the middle, carrying these dudes on their phones all video, fucking wild lol
If Lawrence is average this year they save 300 million
We had zero weapons. Travis was a must
Bro where yall been?? I feel like I haven’t seen a video from yall in a year lol
the diff w mahomes contract and almost any other is that he can depend on the chiefs drafting well. him taking less money isn’t such a gamble because they will put a team around him that can help him win.
The problem with these kinds of discussions is if your a fan of a particular player like Lawrence, Tua or Kyler Murray then you will give them the benefit of the doubt instead of being fair...with that said there is no Logical reason any of those 3 Quarterbacks can be judged as better than Jared Goff the last 2 Seasons based on Production and Results💯
based on box score sure, but eye test, circumstance, etc, think u could reasonably argue tlaw > goff with little problem. Better arm, better ball placement (tight window throws + deep balls), better pocket presence. I'd personally take goff > tua and kyler, however.
@@noahmelt22 you can also reasonably argue that if you put Trevor in same circumstances he won't be as successful as Goff... people can watch same players and see them differently because I See Goff with better arm, Better ball placement and waaaay better pocket presence and Decision making only thing he has over Goff is mobility 💯💯💯
Jared Goff has to have everything perfect though. Top 5 o line defense and running game at least one WR1. When under pressure his game is atrocious.
@@CreaseChannel that's a lie...neither running back played full season wr1 missed a game maybe 2...and his defense was one of the worst also missing offensive lineman and he still won Division title and 2 playoff games...stop repeating media propaganda
@@CreaseChannel he may not be Flashy or Dynamic and run all over the field but he is a Winner and has Elite Production and Not Empty Stats on a Losing team
Until week 12 vs the Bengals T Law improvised, because our center was the worst in the league... This season it had become one of his primary weapons, Just being mobile and improvising... After his leg injury you could see he can't move out of the pocket anymore and has to stand there, while the defense have an extra corner on the field, because they know TLaw can't really move out of the pocket and even with 4 guys the O Line will collapse... I don't understand people who dont watch film and highlights and just say but look at his Team Stats... For example in week 2 against the Chiefs TLaw threw 4 TD passes and 3 were dropped... You can see the change of mobility and playingstyle after week 12
The lions had double the amount of drops the jags had yet goff almost won mvp with more drops how do these turds have jobs ?
Goff didn’t almost win MVP he wasn’t even in the conversation
@@pickasideThe Point is Goff overcame the DROPPED PASSES and a BAD DEFENSE and still led Lions to 12 wins the Division title and won 2 playoff games... Lawrence on the other hand has NEVER overcome those kinds of obstacles. Goff doesn't look Flashy or Dynamic but he is Clearly better than Trevor..... RESULTS MATTER
@@pickasideGoff had much better stats
@@AlexRoth-vd1js Goff isn't Flashy or Dynamic but he is Clearly better
@@FightThePower1 Goff also plays with a better coaching staff, better offensive line, better run game, and better receiving core. Trevor Lawrence in the same situation does the same thing if not better
Most of these clowns who hate Lawrence don’t know what epa even means. Bunch of casuals watch football nowadays.
I don’t know if Lawrence at this point is better than Tua and both are about to be overpaid.
But it’s the market of the NFL QB.
Tua isn’t good I’d take TLaw 10/10 times
Tua was elevated by Tyreek. He got benched for Fitzpatrick.
Etienne had 11tds and 11th in rushing yards, how do they have no run game
Wasn’t consistent, his YPC got worse
They ranked 30th in rush epa and 31st in success rate
4 yards = Successful run
Only 32.9% of the Jags runs went for 4 yards or more
Our run game was ass last yr, but ettiene is a good back. Two things can be true
Where did we rank overall?
@@pickasideare you guys aware that Lawrence has more Total Turnovers than Total Touchdowns...he is Mid and is no where near as Good as Jared Goff
Day 6 of asking for a WWE pod
They do talk about WWE a lil bit
Trevor Lawrence has more Total Turnovers than Total Touchdowns...he is Mid but the fanboys would rather sink in sand than admit Trevor is a Bust🤔🤔🤔
You’re not even using the term bust right dude
Trevor Lawrence has shown to be mid with a good team around him. We can’t ignore all his fumbles. Dude is a better version of Daniel Jones unless he shows something this year and wins at least a playoff game
😂😂
Some of those fumbles are his fault but most are from a bad oline
@@jags9046 The line fumbled?🤣😂
good team around him? Oline is bottom 3 in the league last season, running game was 30th, and they don't have a #1 WR. They had a rusty Ridley which is not close to who he used to be, Kirk who is a good #2 and Jones who was a good #3. Their best weapon in the passing game was Evan Engram and he is probably around a top 8-10 TE? Stop acting like he has a comparable group around him to these other QBs.
@@Darsam88 think ppl hate Trevor and that it's the jags.
I remember clearly Lamar receiver dropped touchdowns it was cmon Lamar. Moran with these bs stars to back up bs. But when someone else use stats now he Mr judge the tape. This wanna be skip bayless schtick gets old
One game against the Steelers yes they dropped the football. This is 17 games. lol. Patrick Mahomes 17 games led the league in drops. Jags Wr core ranked in the mid 20#s the last 3 years. 25th going into the season. This guy in this video is speaking facts.
Imagine trying to be a good defense with an offense that basically averaged 3 TOS down the stretch I don’t have a problem with Trevor he’s good but consistently deflecting any blame from him is getting old
Defense dealt with injuries and a turnover pledged offensive= they suck
Oline dealt with and played thru injuries = they sucked
Pass catcher= 10th fewest drops in the league guys playing outta position (X,Y) Kirk, and say injuries = they suck
Trevor dealt with injuries the back half of the year= excuses we wouldn’t dare give any other top 10 QB in the league
Well it's a collective of things. Wrs really are mid and dealt with injuries. Like his X wr was Zay Jones and he missed 8 games last season. Ridley had to play X and thats when he struggles getting open. O line ranked 31st . Defense ranked 30th. Pederson handing the playcalling to Press Taylor so really this falls on Doug Pederson. You name one QB that could win a playoff game with Marvin Jones Zay Jones & Kirk?
@@CreaseChannel Wat does that have to do with taking care of the football?...None of these things = QB giving ball to the wrong team. Muddier pocket, yes. But performance under pressure is a thing. If he sucks anytime his blocking isnt great then thats a HIM problem. This the NFL. The pocket wont be perfect every dropback.
@Chrism7178 when noones getting open and the run not going well he tends to play hero ball. If you a qb and wrs running the wrong routes not catching the ball not getting open what are you gonna do?
@@CreaseChannel "When he misses reads". He struggles beyond his first read. He only completes the speed out with consistency. Thats still not a good excuse for TOs. There are QBs that have less that have far less TOs. His TOs are on him.
@@CreaseChannel Extend the play, move the defense find a scramble lane or broken play completion, or THROW THE BALL AWAY?...He's not good enoigh to play HERO. So play withing your self.
It’s honestly people who don’t follow the team who think he’s not good. For what he’s been through he’s a great QB. We had a great off season, we will see this year. I think he has a breakout season. Also if Herbert can get a pass so can Trevor.
The “10th best quarterback” is not worth that contract bro .. what are we talking about.
They can win 8 games with or without Lawrence
😂
Lies
@@slijackson353 he's a moron
Def not
Are u mentally ill
Nah he’s terrible what I seen Monday it’s bad 😭
Lawrence isn't good enough to justify this deal lets be real
You’re a casual
@@KashanJabarino he’s correct
@@saseddrickwashington8546 he's wrong lol. put the tape on and watch how tlaw get sold by his team routinely. besides, this deal is gonna look good once it actually kicks in
I'll be back. For this. 😂
@@noahmelt22 We see the tape. He stinks. Most turnovers since being drafted😒😂🤣
Lawrence top 10??..You guys dont know football. Lawrence sucks. Terrible deal.
Top 3. You don't know football. Only qb I've seen behind mahomes elevate mid tier RECEIVERS.
@@CreaseChannel Ridley is mid?....lol. Top 3?....😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😒. Put the crack down.
@@Chrism7178 Ridley hasn’t put up numbers since his time with Julio. He’s a certified Z Wr playing off the line. You know what that means?
@@CreaseChannel You dont know football. Ridley a certified WR1. Trevor sucks. Turnover low IQ machine.
@@CreaseChannel He need to elevate himself🤣😂. He a bum.