This doctor is a joke. What do you mean you "don't measure wounds"? That's ME 101. His description of the effects of a punctured lung were sinfully incomplete and his statement about the inability to determine or form an opinion, as to the order in which the wounds were inflicted is ridiculous. You can most certainly compare the deeper soft tissue surrounding the wounds and speculate the order of events based upon the amount of blood that had accumulated in the soft tissue before the point of death. 14 years in school and this guy can't even bring himself to care about this victim enough to expound upon statements that could be confusing to the jurors. You are a disgrace, sir.
I figured a lot of his lackadaisical manner or failure to do some things a typical ME would do were due to the level of decomposition. However, I don't like that he refers to her in this personal case as "the individual" or "the decedent." He's not writing a report; the lawyers refer to her by name in their questions, so why can't he respond with her name, too?
He was also extremely lazy about the potential time of death based on decomposition. There's a big difference in "several hours to maybe a day" and three days! Even in the Florida climate in September, you wouldn't get that level of decomp in a few hours.
Attorney: Doctor, what was the cause of death? ME: The cause of death was stab wounds. Attorney: Doctor, were these stab wounds inflicted before death? ME: Hmmm........Yes
I'm not a dr. But bloating, skin slippage, turning green after several hours or a day?? With no water involved, that's highly unlikely. That would be closer to 36-48 hrs, right? I've had some education in this, fascinated by anatomy and true crime all my life. This ME is chief?? I'd hate to see who lost the job to him. Omg he's the worst examiner I've EVER SEEN take the stand. I'm actually shocked!!
@@susanelliott2831 It would depend on the climate, but even under Florida conditions, that level of decomposition shouldn't happen within a few hours or a day like he said. She went missing on 9/27 and was found on 9/30. 3 days is far more likely for that level of decomposition.
They're trying to imply that if she was unconscious because of the duct tape on her face, she wouldn't have felt the pain of the stab wounds. Ridiculous, I agree.
He's a lazy ME and seems arrogant, too. The way he responds to the court reporter when she asks him to slow down or repeat himself... He looks so annoyed and keeps looking at her afterward like she's beneath him or he thinks she's stupid. Drove me nuts.
If I just killed someone, I'd be freakin out the cops were the ones delaying the train so they could get an arrest warrant and come to get me. Holy crap
anyone notice the ME put a glove on his right hand then with his ungloved left hand he adjusts the right hand glove by linking fingers??? Uh, left hand touches gloved hand... Meaning he just put his DNA on the glove on the right hand so anything he touches with the right hand is contaminated with his DNA! you only handle gloves at the opening when putting it on. This ME should not be an ME just for that incident. He's arrogant, doesn't have the time of day to answer questions. He's horribly unprofessional. Hes got some issue mentally with his rapid blinking. I seriously doubt some other professional county would ever hire him if they watched this video. Would you hire him?
Did he say she could have been dead a couple hours to a couple of days? How could it only be a couple of hours with the stab wounds to her heart? That doesn't sound possible to me.
It saves the prosecutor from having to call someone from 7-11 corporate to verify the authenticity of the video. The 2 side's agreed in advance to give the truth of the matter.
He wasn't a medical examiner he was a forensic pathologist that's what you all aren't getting google the difference. And there was a pre trial ruling about being careful about information shared as to the autopsy per request of the family and also other information act that would have prejudiced the jury (only god knows why that ruling was made) all parties and potential witnesses are made of pretrial rulings
I love this bus driver. This guy is awesome. Also love that he wore his reflective vest to court.
Nice man.
He technically is working, so has to wear his gear.
He’s adorable 🙂
He's soooo cute i think he will wear it to bed too as he loves being a bus driver
The bus driver has such a sweet demeanor
I was thinking the exact thing! Word for word!
ME doesn't sound like he's spent 14 years studying his craft. I've heard so many ME's be able to find out so much more than he has..
I have more confidence in the bus driver than anyone else! Wish the medical examiner was this confident and composed.
I've never seen anyone blink so much in my life.
Probably a bit of anxiety. It can be nerve wracking testifying in court.
Bad fitting contact lenses?
IKR I looked it up, could be he is very impatient waiting for question. He didn't blink so wildly when answering question
honestly....he must have some kind of nervous issue
Like me now with my allergies. My eyes are watery and everything is blurry.
The medical examiner has given the most vague answers I have ever heard a ME give.
The blinking is painful!
Those glasses that the bus driver uses are pretty cool!
Agreed. He is a cutie.
My coworker had them. I think he got them at Costco
that defense lawyer needs to clear his throat. He's gargling phlegm with every question.
Kurt Richards or his dentures
It seems like there is always at least one cougher in each trial. They should provide cough droos.
This doctor is a joke. What do you mean you "don't measure wounds"?
That's ME 101. His description of the effects of a punctured lung were
sinfully incomplete and his statement about the inability to determine
or form an opinion, as to the order in which the wounds were inflicted
is ridiculous. You can most certainly compare the deeper soft tissue
surrounding the wounds and speculate the order of events based upon the
amount of blood that had accumulated in the soft tissue before the point
of death. 14 years in school and this guy can't even bring himself to
care about this victim enough to expound upon statements that could be
confusing to the jurors. You are a disgrace, sir.
Absolutely. Very lazy ME. Most are very detailed.
I figured a lot of his lackadaisical manner or failure to do some things a typical ME would do were due to the level of decomposition. However, I don't like that he refers to her in this personal case as "the individual" or "the decedent." He's not writing a report; the lawyers refer to her by name in their questions, so why can't he respond with her name, too?
He was also extremely lazy about the potential time of death based on decomposition. There's a big difference in "several hours to maybe a day" and three days! Even in the Florida climate in September, you wouldn't get that level of decomp in a few hours.
Maybe the ME needs to be recertified?
She was decomposing - maybe it’s not that relevant??
Attorney: Doctor, what was the cause of death?
ME: The cause of death was stab wounds.
Attorney: Doctor, were these stab wounds inflicted before death?
ME: Hmmm........Yes
Me - Blink once for yes...and twice for no..
Dr - blink blink blink blink blinkety blink...
Me - Never mind ....
He blinked 7,564,397,567 times during this testimony.. Yup I counted
Oh dear!
That's so funny😊😅😂😂😂😂
no that's incorrect it was actually 7,564,397,568 i personally counted twice just to make sure
I'm not a dr. But bloating, skin slippage, turning green after several hours or a day?? With no water involved, that's highly unlikely. That would be closer to 36-48 hrs, right? I've had some education in this, fascinated by anatomy and true crime all my life. This ME is chief?? I'd hate to see who lost the job to him. Omg he's the worst examiner I've EVER SEEN take the stand. I'm actually shocked!!
Wouldn't it also depend on temperature and humidity?
They found the body on the first of October. She went missing on August 28.
@@susanelliott2831 It would depend on the climate, but even under Florida conditions, that level of decomposition shouldn't happen within a few hours or a day like he said. She went missing on 9/27 and was found on 9/30. 3 days is far more likely for that level of decomposition.
How can that Dr even see to do an autopsy?
I bet you that bus driver gets employee of the month often...
The defense attorney is not doing her client any favors by repeating the gory details of Mrs Fulford's death.There is a time to sit down and shut up!
Bus driver sounds like an Adam Sandler voice...
He Does, Doesnt He :)
My immediate thought it was an Adam Sandler character
So, if she bled, the heart did not stop instantly. Are they implying are kinder, gentler death in cross?? Rediculous.
Gail Clark that was my thought as well, like with the question about anything done to the head just the duct tape.
They're trying to imply that if she was unconscious because of the duct tape on her face, she wouldn't have felt the pain of the stab wounds. Ridiculous, I agree.
@@Yarnaby26 Right! For them to imply that the duct tape was sorta no big deal. My gosh the panic of not being able to see or breathe. 💔😭
Wow this ME must be fun to work with
He's a lazy ME and seems arrogant, too. The way he responds to the court reporter when she asks him to slow down or repeat himself... He looks so annoyed and keeps looking at her afterward like she's beneath him or he thinks she's stupid. Drove me nuts.
Lol , This defendant was dropping breadcrumbs
If I just killed someone, I'd be freakin out the cops were the ones delaying the train so they could get an arrest warrant and come to get me. Holy crap
Who cares if Mr Nelson is ready 🙄
This ME is the worst I've heard he don't really know anything not really experienced....
The defence attorney sounds like she is on the prosecution side with her questioning 🤨
He's seen so much he can't help BUT to blink a lot.
He sounds like a Puerto Rican Adam Sandler
Wow....he can't stop blinking...bizarre !
Why did the bus driver wear his reflective vest to court?
He is considered working, so he wears his uniform. He is also getting paid.
anyone notice the ME put a glove on his right hand then with his ungloved left hand he adjusts the right hand glove by linking fingers??? Uh, left hand touches gloved hand... Meaning he just put his
DNA on the glove on the right hand so anything he touches with the right hand is contaminated with his DNA! you only handle gloves at the opening when putting it on. This ME should not be an ME just for that incident. He's arrogant, doesn't have the time of day to answer questions. He's horribly unprofessional. Hes got some issue mentally with his rapid blinking. I seriously doubt some other professional county would ever hire him if they watched this video. Would you hire him?
By this time the dna testing has all been completed
Did he say she could have been dead a couple hours to a couple of days? How could it only be a couple of hours with the stab wounds to her heart? That doesn't sound possible to me.
Anyone remember when Link 102 was the 39 Fern Perk?
The bus driver sounds like Bobby Bushay from Water Boy
What the Blink???
Its morse code😂😂
@@donnacox8541 I figure he wears contacts and the witness box is right in line with an air vent. That really is the only thing to explain it.
What’s with the judge reading the video evidence stipulation??? Is there any reason for the defense to request this move?? Just curious why. Thx
It saves the prosecutor from having to call someone from 7-11 corporate to verify the authenticity of the video. The 2 side's agreed in advance to give the truth of the matter.
I don't see a problem with the ME
This doctor is not very bright :-)
I agree! I was surprised he said he did not measure the stab wounds; just noted what organs were penetrated. He seemed kinda lazy.
He is an idiot
He wasn't a medical examiner he was a forensic pathologist that's what you all aren't getting google the difference. And there was a pre trial ruling about being careful about information shared as to the autopsy per request of the family and also other information act that would have prejudiced the jury (only god knows why that ruling was made) all parties and potential witnesses are made of pretrial rulings