How to Weather Protection with Rollup Tarps | Sawmill Shed Build - Episode 12
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- How to weather protection with rollup tarps is the name of the game today in my next episode of my sawmill shed build series. After much consideration of many options for covering the exposed walls of my sawmill shed, I decided on a low cost, yet effective option. I select rollup tarp walls that can be pulled up and out of the way when not in use but available quickly for weather protection. These tarps went up relatively easily without much effort thanks to some paracord, screws and a few pulleys. There is a bit of a learning curve here to get the rolling motion of the tarps figured out, but after some practice these tarps go up and down with ease. As the weather continues to move in with snow and rain alternating back and fourth depending on the day, it sure is nice to have the option to "button up" the walls with these tarps to keep out the elements. Whether this wall/door option lasts long-term is to be seen, but at this point, I'm quite happy with the results of these rollup tarps and think they will provide great protection for a long time.
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Hey, it’s a sawmill-it’s functional and looks great!
A chainsaw-carpentry scarf-joint! Love it!
I am sitting here watching you work, while I should be in the shop building my sawmill. Yeah, the coffee is gone, back to work.
Ah well, always time for a break
That’s going to be so much better with a little protection around the mill. Great job. We enjoy watching your videos. Stay safe.
Thanks Phyllis! Should be a great addition
That is a beautiful supervisor you have!!
Koda sure is a good supervisor to have a round
Love your information, your transparency, and your passion! Thank you for sharing with “us”!
Thanks Charles appreciate that
Great solution! Those will definitely last the first season ... and probably 2. She’s a beauty!
Thanks Bruce. Fingers crossed 🤞
There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution that works. Good job on doing the roll up tarps. The tarp wall should certainly keep the bulk of the rain and snow out of the Hillbilly Hideout 2.0.
Good for rain but not snow proof. Sheltered in the woods perhaps but I'm on a hilltop, snow even blows through my ventilated ridge cap! South central Pennsylvania border near Baltimore, Maryland.
I like it a lot. Good job once again. You are a great testing lab...lol...as we are planning to build a sawmill shack next spring. I agree with you about the reason to use tarp...it is so nice to work outside.
I like being outside to dont want to feel like im cooped up in a building 😊 great build
Love your heavy thinking, you are going to do just fine!
Glad to see you are adding the tarps. That is what we had on a woodshed to keep it dry. On sunny and windy days, we would just raise it to get rid of any dampness. They also work great to keep the bitter cold winds off of you during the winter.
Sounds like it should work nicely. I likely will keep it up for 3 months of the year and roll it down when they’re calling for snow. Thanks for watching. Hope all is well
I have been playing with the idea of building a pole barn type shop for my WM130. Thank you for letting me see how you have met the challenge of building the shop building by yourself.
I am 70 now and working mostly by myself since my main helper is suffering from cancer and not able to help any more. Thank you for the inspiration to build an all weather enclosure.
Glad you were able to check out the video. I’m sorry to hear about your helper. Please send my well wishes
Great project.... so well thought out Sandy .....like the first aid kit idea too... .:-))
We tried tarps for doors about the same span,, the wind ripped them in less than 2 months,, we did this twice.. Same thing happened.. The wind finds the weakest point, and slowly starts ripping.. We eventually had to put up tin sheets.. Wind never bothered the sheets.. Great video. Really really good... 👌👍👌
Pushing the limits of that ladder. I’m a one man builder as well. I’m doing the same thing with a similar build. I want a heavier tarp. I’m protecting an expensive bass boat.
Good job.
I think it looks great. Good idea too. If you like it after you’ve worked with it a while- I may try that myself.
Thank You, for sharing.
Thanks Troy. I’ll be sure to update everyone after using it for a while
Woohoo curtains are up great job Sandy! Been waiting to see this.
Thanks! I
Hooray success congratulations it might not have worked to your satisfaction the first time but it worked. Good enough.
Thanks Doug!
I'm really enjoying your posts and am glad I stumbled on them. I like your basic approach and thought processes to your projects. Keep on keepin on!
Thanks for watching Ward
Great job, brother! Looks like a nice project is finished. Chip
Awesome job, very good idea, I will probably use it myself!!!!!!
Thanks for watching David
a low budget construction ... nice !!
I have used this method several times in the past!
It looks great and it’s only fitting that you used the white hockey rink tarp! I love it!!
I like. I like. Good job. You may need one on the 4th wall, too. Time will tell.
Looking good !
I'm so addicted to this channel!
One idea, instead of the bungy cords is to get strips of velcro on the corner posts and along the bottom at the front. Very simple and easy to install.
I've been thinking it would be great if you could also make a saw dust trough along the back side to collect you dust. But, I just don't know if it will end up blowing the saw dust straight out of the trough or not??
Love the channel.
People keep saying wind wind wind. He's in a Huge plantation. AKA wind blocker. He ain't on the open prairie. 👍
Looks good Pal, if it continues to get warm, you'll be figuring out how to stay cool. lol
Hey there buddy how are ya? The hideout is looking good. I like that it will protect the mill your work space and you. Thanks buddy for taking us along
I’m doing well thanks. Hope the same for you as well. Coming along nice eh. Almost done
Great explanation, thanks!
Thanks Miguel
Hi Sandy, I have the same 130 model as you do and left it in the box for a year while I figured out how to protect the investment!
I'm in British Columbia and work on a golf course. I was able to cut down a couple of cedar trees that had double tops and a 30 foot log for my front beam. I also used cedar logs for the back 3 posts.
I have 18 feet wide landscape fabric so used this on 3 sides.
I saw on another channel that he was going to use the off cuts as siding leaving gaps between them to get air flow after all who wants to breathe all that sawdust!
Aces brother. i was just looking at how to get mine to roll up. I use a piece of 1x2 through the bottom of my Shelterlogic. I'm thinking, if i wrap the rope around the one end of the 1x2 It would effectively use the pole / 1x2 at the bottom as a 'pulley' thereby rolling it as you pull the cord to roll up, or the other cord to pull it down. If i do it at both ends, it stands to reason that it would roll each end equally, creating a nice roll. Adding a little back pressure on the feed line into the 'pulley' this has created, should yield a nice tight roll. Think mini blinds, only the bar is at the bottom not the top.
If you're concerned with gale force winds, just screw some pieces of 1x2x23 between the grommet holes. Love your channel!
Looks good that should work excellent 👍👍👍
A first-aid kit at the sawmill probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
I think that would be an excellent idea 👍
Put Quik Clot in the kit.
You mean super glue and electrical tape?
quikclot.com
Add a pair of splinter forceps and a 19 gauge needle. The needle works great in opening the skin over the splinter so you can then remove the splinter with the forceps. Then something like betadine and a bandage. Take care of yourself.
Try adding some weights in the bottom tubes to give resistance when the blind is rolling up. I have used pvc pipe with sinkers through the inside. The sinkers are on fishing line and held separated by knots then the line is tied through small drilled holes.
now you got the hang of it!!
Sandy, if you use a small round pine log (. consistent in size the whole length) instead of the 1x material, your tarp will roll up better, like you imagined it would. Very nice build!!
FYI, true para-cord (aka 550 cord) is 550lb test. Nice job, Sandy!
Great videos
Thanks Dan!
And by the way, you may want to consider putting bunks on skids. That way you can move them when you open doors to mill. Might work for you. Whatever you do, I'll be watching. Thanks.
I'm planing my mill shed and thought I may use a tarp system on the front wall too.. I was thinking (as some have suggested) of using the banner material from old billboards. Rather than a roll up I may use a cable stretched across the front behind the beam. Attach the tarp with metal rings(chain links). Fasten on one end of the tarp with screws, use Spring snap links on the other, and use bungees to hold it to a post when it is open. Not sure how I will hold the bottom.Maybe a rope through the eyelets to a snap link. In the sign business we would often put slots in banners so the wind would be less of an issue. There are lots of ads for the used billboard (Banner ) material Thanks for the videos. I really do enjoy and look forward to them!!
I’m thinking of doing the same thing with mine - for the same reason - I would rather mill lumber outside then in - but I want the mill out of the weather - Thks for the video
Nice to get a good view for sure. Thanks for watching Brad
Hey there my buddy kota inspecting things,, nice job
I like your new video today you did a really good today it looking nice buddy
Thanks Travis!
Good night too you guys buddy
Wind is going to be your biggest problem with tarps.
I agree, wind is going to be an issue.
Very impressive
Thanks Brian
Hello Sandy ; the wind on Sunday sure shock the Province of Ontario. The Hay stack tarp arrangement from PA stood the test and the outer white poly was still in place after the storm was over. I made a video of the Haystack tarp on my site.
From Uxbridge Ontario Craig Clayton
The wind the wind my friend. That's you enemy here.over the years farming one of the biggest purchase every other year was tarps if the move they will loosin up n rip but the shack is looking good.
Nice build on the structure. I’m doing the same for a boat shed
I bought a large vinyl billboard sign 15X30 that cost around $50.00. Heavy tarp,advertising on one side and black on the other.
If you want a more permanent solution try some sliding barn doors on the front.
You could build the rails for the doors on outriggers at either end so they slide all the way open. Cover the doors in polycarb roofing so they will be lightweight and let the light in.
You could then add hinged doors on the short sides and they can open back out to the outriggers.
10 minute job mate :-)
Looking good
We had one of those 10’ x 20’ enclosed tent carports. I had to put para cord on the walls - two cords together with the tarp sandwiched between the cords. The cords ran horizontally, tied at each end, so they were strumming tight.
I had two sets on each wall, dividing the wall in thirds.
This kept the material from flapping in the wind, which is the death of tarps and tents.
Possibly use ball bungees at the front corners to connect the end tarps to the front tarp.
@Lowell Gates This was exactly my first thought.
I've used tarps for many years and one thing I have definitely figured out from being in a very high wind area is that the tarp needs and will last much longer with some flexibility.
I buy bags of 100+ bungees and use them accordingly. Sometimes using 2 or 3 depending on the situation to make it longer as needed. That has helped tremendously.
Another option is buying a large roll of elastic rope and using that as needed. For poles I wrap rope around it leaving a gap to run the ball bungee through each loop so that I don't have to use hooks or drill into the pole.
One of my biggest drawbacks here is high winds and insane sun exposure which destroys the bungees and ropes. But the tarps hold up really well so replacing bungees/ropes is not bad at all.
I just added a 20x40 steel roof to my shipping container and going to wrap the sides this way for the time being until I go full metal.
Oh, and I've learned that the tarp lasts a lot longer if I add 2x-3x more loops for bungees. The more points to attach to the less tearing happens.
Just trying to figure out how to get it to roll up on its own so as to not fight it the whole way up. 🤔🤔
Sandy , cut yourself some 4 x 4 post , then find the angle to put your braces on the under sides of your beam and post for corner braces instead of nail them on the outside , this will make I cleaner look do your sawmill shed ...
On the backside of saw mill shed put a girt about 3 foot off the floor and then fasten some siding boards to it , this will give you some protection from the weather on the backside and still leave you room for your sawdust to exit the shed ... you might want to think about putting some two by fours crossway under your sawmill frame every 16 inches to 2 feet to allow you to blow the sawdust out from underneath the sawmill frame
great idea!
now the bears have a place to get out of the wind
Haha pretty much (and coyotes)
Effective temporary element blocking. I have a tarp covering my wood for my smoker, 4'w x 3'd x5'h, tarp is exposed to all elements and now, 5 yrs old, is ripped and torn and needs replacing. It worked for me, I suspect this will serve you well for a couple of years until you can put in place something a bit more robust. Best of Luck.
Sandy, I found your channel almost 2 months ago and immediately
subscribed. You put out nice videos with lots of information but without
sounding like a know it all. I had a Peterson 4' cut WPF sawmill since
2004. I used to do portable milling and haul my mill around, but I quit
that part of milling about 10 or so years ago, opting to mostly saw for
my own needs, but on rare occasions I cut for others at my site.
To my point, I don't have any 4' diameter trees on my property so I no
longer needed to be able to saw such big logs. Thus, I just sold my
mill, and ordered a WH130Max, 16'+ cut (1 track extension). I like the
saw shed you built, if you were to build it now, after using it for a
while, would you change anything?
I plan to build one much like yours, not only the saw shed, but the
lumber shed, a log deck and slab cuts rack. I see your saw shed is
basically the same length as the track, would you build it longer now? I
was thinking I'd like it about 4-5' longer on the cut starting end, but
then maybe carrying lumber to the drying shed might end up hitting
everything on the turn.
Your thought please
If you can for future, find advertising companies that own billboards, when they discard old ads they work excellent as tarps. Think materialthick material
Sandy here is a long time solution for something that might interest you! Get one of those accordion doors you see them in a strip mall when they shut up their stores for the night now their quite expensive but if you go to a mall close to you sometimes you can purchase one second hand I used one at my parents they had a carport and every year my father would put up obs board which worked but was time consuming and also made the carport like a dungeon I think I got that one for five hundred they loved it and still have it to this day! I recently picked one up because I want to build a out door kitchen and i got it used for 200. I saw someone use one for a air plane hanger you will love it and gives a open type feeling and in summer you can open it up in literal a couple minutes I have it on my wood shed waiting to put on the kitchen go tomorrow to my FB page and check it out!
ive heard that if you use painters tarp made of cotten and roll on thompson water seal they make great affordable tarps but are combustable ..also maybe instead of rolling up the tarp have a rop on the inside and outside so when you bull it up it bunches the tarp instead of rolling up ...just a thought
Thats allmost what I had envisioned. Iam not sure how to make it roll but it not like your going in and out like a door. I mite wall off the back but a tarp would do. Looks great.
4:36 Movie Night at the Sawing Sandy Greenwood Cinema Facility !
fast cheap and easy, replace every 2 years as needed, does the job.
Looks really nice. Use cheap 2" strapping (ratchet type) instead of rope and it'll roll way easier. Additional strap front middle will also aid in rolling. You only need enough strap from beginning to just under full extension.
Hi, try replacing the single pulley with a double pulley. At the first double pulley use a couple of cable clamps and 6x50mm dowel on the two ropes. Trim one rope and run the other through the new double pulley. I've done that on my chicken house.
Nice build. A wood stove and a coffee pot then you will be all set.
I think it looks great, even if it's just a temporary solution.
Wher are you in Ontario I’m in Cumberland I have a champion sawmill I like watching your videos 👍👍👍👍
If fasten the rope to the tarp it will roll up great job
I used a system similar in my greenhouse to cool it off .
Only half way up though.
The grommets on the side tarps look like they line up with the front tarp....a few cheap carabiners to attach them together would button up that corner pretty good. At least stop both edges from flapping in the wind.
You may finish the other half of the roof in a couple of years. Then the two ends would be your only concern. Looks good
I think no walls but maybe large multi hinged doors so you can open it all up and have the open feeling.
If its raining and snowing, wouldn't you want the tarps in the down position?
Simple solution is always the best. Hell airplane hanger doors if money is no object. Great solution
Thanks Leith
If you use a larger diameter pipe, it will roll up better. 4 inch PVC drain pipe will work great. Even a 4x4 with edges chamfered into a octagon will work. The weight of the 4x4 will hold the tarps down when a wind comes up. You might even have a 4 inch diameter tree that you can peel and use.
You need to keep the tarps from hitting the wooden posts if you do not you tarps will be damaged. Good job on the mill shed.
open eye-hook screws on the posts to hook tarps? nice work
Put walls on hinges. Like a door. Then use heavy guage screen. That way you can close doors and then open when you're using sawmill. When closed doors will keep out snow and rain. Just put a drip edge at top for rain.
Wooden side walls set between the corner posts with a bump out lining up with the eves would give you storage space / very deep window sill if you were to put in (reclaimed) windows in the bump outs...
U are great, just do what works for U
Thanks Josanne
Nice.
I think the back wall needs to be closed off with a lengthwise pull up flap to allow the sawdust flying out when you are lumber jacking.... Na maybe a door to the outhouse facilities... ;-)
You may find the tarp rolls up better if you used a wider diameter pipe. Something like a 3" or 4" PVC sewer pipe. The small pipe has too tight a radius to roll with the string - it gets lifted instead. On the large opening - I would add a few more ropes towards the middle. To avoid pulling too many ropes - bring them back to a central location and tie them off to a single rope.
You like to escape but at 03:45 you did not escape the ''hairy'' jobsite inspector ;-) Good job with the tarp, however I do prefer ''sliding'' because I can do both (roll-up or sliding, depend of the situation) Do you plan to install some shelves to store tools and accessories and free up all the floor/work surface? How about engine exhaust exiting? I'm wondering.
Run, the trees are fighting back..........Plot for new movie.... "WHEN TREES ATTACK"
....on the next episode of "Sawing with Sandy"
winter time wood burner
Could you do a slower more detailed look at how you did the pulleys?
You made a greenhouse
I hope a Bear doesn't come by and decide to RIP his own opening in the tarp. Only time will tell. 👍👍
In my opinion the Rope will cut the tarp eventually you might try to make you a crank system like an old speed wrench made out of 1in PVC pipe and make a U joint to go on the end of the pipe out of PVC pipe and a block of wood..... you know like they used to do roll up tarps on a grain truck
Check how it’s done on the big sailing ships.
I’ve beeen looking for a Woodland Mills cap. Any idea how I can get my hands on one?
I’m not sure how those get distributed
Negative Five Degrees Celsius would be eminently more enjoyable for Me Personally than the 38 Degree Celsius Weather I'm going to be getting this (Australian) Summer. Stay Safe, Stay Chill.
those temperatures would cause me to melt haha. Thanks for watching Michael, hope all is well
Looks good to me. :)
Quick question, when milling wood from recently dropped trees do you need to cut a thinker piece to allow for shrinking as it dries?
Normally I’d cut the piece thicker than I want for my finished dimensions. For rough lumber I don’t pay too much attention to shrinkage since I am building with lumber before it dries.
@@sawingwithsandy is there much shrinkage in lumber as it dries? I was thinking of giving it a go this year and I wanted to make that my dried lumber was still within the standard that I was shooting for. Thanks
You will get width shrinkage. Depends how much by the species of wood. If I wanted to be certain of a certain size I’d cut it atleast 1/4” wider than the finished width I want
@@sawingwithsandy perfect, thanks.
It's easy to criticize sitting here but...why not install wood siding on the West end of the mill and backside of your shed? Put in window openings in if you need to see through using your tarp idea to cover them when it storms. Seems like that would help cut the wind and make the shed a little more comfortable. Good job overall.
I may end up doing that down the road but for now I need a place for the sawdust to go out