@@qamarpasha445their arguments are useless once hassan gives muaviya kingship of muslims. Bringing past conflicts is stupid then. Then they said we cannot absolutely follow Hassan. Believe me we know all your arguments. Now we shouldn't follow Hassan? But prophet said he is sayid who will reconcile with two groups of muslims. That's the hadeeth. Your arguments get debunked. That's what Adnan is trying to say.
But Hasan ibn Ali, the Ahlul bayt member who gave BAY’AH to him was. You will never ever get away from this point. You can never to BAY’AH to a non Muslim or a tyrant. Was Hasan ra a coward or too weak to say you’re not suitable? Hasan ra has a greater sense of judgement than Engineer.
For being Muslim u just need to accept Tauheed and Prophet PBUH the last messenger. but to be expelled from Islam there are tens of thousands of reasons.
@LoveSHAH14 You haven’t read the Quran cover to cover. Allah in the Quran says “Stick to the Jama’ah” He also says “Do not split up the Jama’ah”. Later on all the scholars have referred them to themselves as ahl sunnah, imam Ahmad, Malik, Hanifah, Shafi’i. So did they reject the Quran here ?
@@Unkn0wn_Legend000 fine go n compile those tens and thousands of list, tick off and make sure you are not falling into any, and later on some scholar will still remove you for making such list 😀
the biggest lie that these followers of engineer say is that they are here to understand, they are so rigid and bling that they are clearly just don't want to understand
Here is the most authentic narration (From Sahee Muslim) to proving the point of Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho hate for Mola Ali Alaha Salam (due to hunger of power and worldly objectives) Hadees # 6220 (international # 2404) Of Sahee Muslim. حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبَّادٍ - وَتَقَارَبَا فِي اللَّفْظِ - قَالَا: حَدَّثَنَا حَاتِمٌ وَهُوَ ابْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ - عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ مِسْمَارٍ، عَنْ عَامِرِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: أَمَرَ مُعَاوِيَةُ بْنُ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ سَعْدًا فَقَالَ: مَا مَنَعَكَ أَنْ تَسُبَّ أَبَا التُّرَابِ؟ فَقَالَ: أَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتُ ثَلَاثًا قَالَهُنَّ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَلَنْ أَسُبَّهُ، لَأَنْ تَكُونَ لِي وَاحِدَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِنْ حُمْرِ النَّعَمِ، سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ لَهُ، خَلَّفَهُ فِي بَعْضِ مَغَازِيهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ خَلَّفْتَنِي مَعَ النِّسَاءِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ؟ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى؟ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا نُبُوَّةَ بَعْدِي» وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ يَوْمَ خَيْبَرَ «لَأُعْطِيَنَّ الرَّايَةَ رَجُلًا يُحِبُّ اللهَ وَرَسُولَهُ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ» قَالَ فَتَطَاوَلْنَا لَهَا فَقَالَ: «ادْعُوا لِي عَلِيًّا» فَأُتِيَ بِهِ أَرْمَدَ، فَبَصَقَ فِي عَيْنِهِ وَدَفَعَ الرَّايَةَ إِلَيْهِ، فَفَتَحَ اللهُ عَلَيْهِ، وَلَمَّا نَزَلَتْ هَذِهِ الْآيَةُ: {فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ} [آل عمران: 61] دَعَا رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلِيًّا وَفَاطِمَةَ وَحَسَنًا وَحُسَيْنًا فَقَالَ: «اللهُمَّ هَؤُلَاءِ أَهْلِي» Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) say about 'Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'Ali said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: Let us summon our children and your children. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family. So please go through this and other authentic Ahadees without any biase to admit the fact that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was mistaken Due to hunger of power and worldly objectives while mola Ali Alaha Salam was right and have more Taqwa.
@@usmanmb1 bro Ustad Adnan never clear this point of this hadees. You don't get the simple point which is "Hazrat Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was a malook (as pr authentic narrations) and he had done some horrible things due to "Hub-ul-Dunya and hunger of power". Now people (Shia specially and some sunni) are on the extreme to gave verdict about Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho as munafiq or kafir they are literally pre determine about the decisions of Akhira in this dunya,which are literally not their work to do. But sahee ahadees are pretty much clear that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho pushes his governors to push people to bait on his son Yazeed and does a lot of wrong doings in Deen.
@@mohammadwaqar3896 who gave you the authority to pass judgement? Didn't Hasan RA knew all this? ( If it's true), why did hazrat Hasan RA made him the Ameer ul momineen? During hazrat moavia's 20 year rule can you provide one evidence of hazrat Hasan and Hussain RA not being happy about the rule? Secondly, the meaning of the hadees of sahih Muslim is that why don't you criticize hazrat ali RA, not abuse, their are also other ahdees were the word sab is used, will it also mean to abuse? You guys don't know Arabic yet when ulema who know Arabic tell you the correct meaning you refuse to accept And ustaad Adnan clearly told you guys that know one in the ahlu sunnah regard hazrat moavia as a khalifa e Rashid, but yes we do accept him as khalifa, you guys don't even know the difference There are countless videos by different ulemas on all the allegations that junior Mirza has put, but you guys just don't want to listen to them This is the peak of ignorance
the argument was correct... If hazrat Hassan's ra bait of ameer muawiyah ra absolves him of everything, thn it was muawiya who make yazeed the leader of the believers and using the same logic, yazeed is absolved too... so this does'nt makes sense
Marwaan was appointed by muawiyyah, who happens to kill 1000s of sahaba. So basically, adnaan is saying that the blood is on muawiyah because he appointed him. Pata nahi kis school me para hai isne
@@syedharis3235 bruh Muawiya raziallah anhu is not sayyed ... His Bayt between MUAWIYA and Hussain raziallahu anhu's was ( peshangoi ) matlb Nabi ne kaha tha ye hoga lekin yazeed aur Muawiya raziallah anhu k beech ye ni tha ( ki Nabi ne aisa kuch kaha tha to muawiya raziallah anhu ne yazeed ko ameer banaya ) it's so different case ... Don't mixed togethers case
@@syedharis3235 are bhai Hazrat Hassan ki Hazrat Muaviya k hath per bayat Nabi SAWW ki hadith hai us prr jis se wo haq such sabit hota, Hazrat Muaviya ka Yazeed ko wali ehad banana galati thi aur insan galati kar skta hai lekin Nabi SAWW ki baat galat kese hogi jab wo keh chuke ye mera beta syed hai aur ye muslman k do bare giroh k darmiyan suleh karwaega aur Hazrat Hassan ne sirf sulah nhn kee khilafat Qurban kardi Aman k lye aur khilafat kisi criminal k hath to de nhn skta kyun Syed hai noble hai uska decision galat nhn hoga… This proves Hazrat Muaviya was a Good sahabi but yess he was a human and he did mistakes but he is a great sahabi aur hum us k peron k khaak k barabar b nhn hain….
These guys claim to be the divine followers with such a weak EMAAN on Hassan R.A. Once Hassan R.A gave "Bay'ah" then khallas, the case is closed. How dare anyone can argue on that and disrespect Hassan's R.A. Bay'ah.
And what happens after in his reign read that aswell it was not shariah khilafah only kingship against the islam which yazeed his son followed by un islamic way of his selection as zulm to ummah
@@faizanzahid553 no. Hussain RA won't live quietly and taking wazifas under a ruler who is not implementing sharia. You guys are so depressed and desperate to accuse Muavia RA of anything you don't even think what necessary outcome of that accusations.
Any answer why Hasan ra gave BAY’AH. Was it to a criminal? He’s wrong Can you give a BAY’AH to an unfit ruler? He’s wrong. Any reply to the hadeeth where Hasan ra will put 2 MUSLIM groups together? Run all day long you’ll never be able to answer this.
@doctor8417 did you even try to watch the point of Adnan ? You are being a jahil. He’s not comparing anyone. He’s literally just showing the people should fear the Ruler. This is Khadhib to think this way.
@@Bantszf Yeah i agree. The people should fear the ruler and obey him as per Adnan. With the same logic Muaviyah should have feared and obeyed the ruler of his time which was Imam Hasan !
@@Bantszf I did it was weak, his whole argument is weak. Khilafa Rashida was over at 30 years. After that it was biting kingship and Imam Hasan absolved himself of the rule b3cause the 30 years are over. Hasan ended the bloodshed through his action, but it's not endorsement of Muawiyyah being a good leader. Ending bloodshed and fighting trumps bad behaviour. Since when has bayah removed the sins of a person except by his repentance for his evil actions. Is Adnan saying Muawiyyah was an unbeliever, then after the bayah he became a believer 😂😂😂 Plumbers boys and the Shia are weak. Ahlus-sunnah has all the arguments against the salafi claim, we just don't open the door to bashing a sahabi even though we don't go out of our way to praise him. We follow the ancestors who were honest about his bad behaviour and then we go silent, due to his sohbah.
Did adnan just say that Ammar Radiallahu Anhu was killed by the Khawarij even though we have clear reports that he was killed by a Sahabi named Abu'l Gadhiya?
@@SuperGulamali Mate ilmi kitabi cult followers say Muawiyah was a misguided person you most likely say the same thing. Them being a companion doesn’t mean they aren’t khawarij. The prophet literally called a companion a khariji when the companion tried to get war booty from him.
@@Bantszf On what basis did you say that I beleive Muawiya radiallahu anh was misguided? I never said that? But I also don't go to the extreme like most people do and believe that he was Maasoom and never did anything wrong. The only belief I have is that Ali Radiallahu Anh was on the Haq and Muawiya radiallahu anh was wrong to go against him in the name of Qisas on Uthman radiallahu anh, which he never even did once he got into power suprisingly!
whys is this person..... mentioning engg mohd ali in the thumbnail...that doesnt downgrade that man... he is not even involved and nor engg mohd ali has sent that person to adnan... this is totally wrong to taking his photo and uploading on the thumbnail... e
No that's not wrong Murza engineer is spreading those lies in TH-cam these men literally said they followed mirza arguments and these are mirza arguments so it's all seems justified.
Adnaan knows nothing about the discussed ahadees still he wants to refute the point, he claims he doesnt know the chronology but yet he wants the questioner to assume stuff..this show how much importance they give to ahadees. Basically, irrespective of what hadith says or what it actually means, they want to bring hadees and its meaning in accordance with their understanding. SubhanAllah
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw. 2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra. Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united? Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler? I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
@@mrannymus who says Muawiya RA was not a muslim, but we say that he made mistakes that inturn led to Qarbla, 1st step was to appoint his son as next authority, we believe as a human, anyone can make mistakes, whats the issue with it?
@@RandomVideos-cn3lt You CANNOT MAKE AN BAY’AH WITH A KAFIR! Better sahaba like Abu bakr ra, Umar ra, Uthman ra and Ali ra all had the chance to avoid bloodshed- they purposely chose war to stop religious arguments. But Hasan ra somehow didn’t want to battle? It is against religious principles to appoint an unfit ruler! What you’re saying is that Hasan ra thought that this man who may go against Islam- I will personally approve him. Ridiculous! He gave BAY’AH and you cannot find any evidence to the contrary.
Adnaan is just fooling around by saying 'Hasan' gave bay'ah to muawiah and we should follow him as he was a caliph. Who is denying that, if we were there then we would have given bay'ah but that very same bay'ah was broken by husain after he witnessed brutality of muawiyah, when he say his brother being poisoned. When he saw that muawiah turning the ummah into kindgdom and following traditions of ramans and persions. Basically, adnaan thinks muslims are fools when cut-copy-paste and read between lines and misinterpret thinks then everybody will believe
@@asiaijaz3352 It has been narrated on the authority of 'Abd al-Rahman b. Abd Rabb al-Ka'ba who said: I entered the mosque when 'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As was sitting in the shade of the Ka'ba........I said to him: This cousin of yours, Mu'awiya, orders us to unjustly consume our wealth among ourselves and to kill one another, while Allah says: O ye who believe, do not consume your wealth among yourselves unjustly, unless it be trade based on mutual agreement, and do not kill yourselves. Verily, God is Merciful to you (iv. 29). The narrator says that (hearing this) Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-As kept quiet for a while and then said: Obey him in so far as he is obedient to God; and diqobey him in matters involving disobedience to God. Sahih Muslim 4776
Only reason Muawia R.A was fighting was to take revenge of Usman R. A coz his clan couldn’t let that shadah of Usman r.A go like that, it’s simple to understand if you don’t have sickness in your heart
Except Hasan Ra accepted him. You engineer/shia wannabes can never ever get around this point. Either Hasan ra is wrong/stupid (elected a known criminal) or the Saheeh Hadith stating follow the khilafah rashideen and Muawiyah ra got given BAY’AH
Simple ans to your question is that our scholars of ahlus sunnah are silent on this topic so we should also be silent and we don't have that height to discuss this issue
@@SyedAquib-g6b I said to him. they consider Muawiya is wrong so why they say ra? will any Muslim go against ahle bayt and do atrocities on them still be muslim? These rafzis molvis just have no knowledge just say reading quran without context and without ulama is possible
I don't understand what u r getting for Defending Hazrat Muawiya? Hate from Muslims ? If there is single hadth against any Sahabi then its done let it be with Allah but please don't Defend What if Hazrat Muawiya was wrong ? And all your life you are defending him. Thats why i never defended Hazrat Muawiya nor i said bad about him I will only support Ahl e Bait Thats my thing I don't know how these people will face Hazrat ali, hassan & hussan RA youm al qayamah
I guess You didn't understand his argument as well, where did he defended all of his actions. His arguemnt is about the day of the Sulah/Bayat. Adnan said several times whatever happened after that is a different chapter and needs seperate discussion. He is talking about the point util which the Sulah was done. If hazrat Hassan a.s. (Ahl e Bait) is doing Sulah with someon eand Bait then who are we to question and judge. Whatever happens after that Allah will be the judge and what Hazrat Hussain did was right!
For all of those who are in support of Ahle Bait A.S(Which is the part of every muslim imaan), I pray may our lord make us be with Ahle bait A.S in the end times... and for those who support banu umayya may out lord treat them as the yazid will be treated on the day of judgement.....except Usman ghani and umar bin abdul aziz R.A.......
@@mubarakisonline bro i am not supporting any khwarji or engineer.... i am a muslim i will die for prophet and Allah and defend and protect Ahle bait A.S ... May grant you true guidance brother....
@@mdabdulrawoof3533 Bro ..i don't have ruhani takat but I have evidence of Engineer Mirza Junior supporting khwarij.. Engineer Mirza Junior said Mola ALI R.A and Khwarij BHAI BHAI Mola ALI R.A ne khwarij k janazay padhaye Mola ALI R.A ne khwarij k liye dua e magfirat ki Khwarij k liye mein narm ghosha rakh sakta hun..
@@jasimisbest2 Read Musanaf of ibn abi shaybah, how that agreement took place. That Bayah is will not wash out refusal to give bayah to Ali r.a when he took charge. Muawiyah may Allah forgive his sins, was not amongst sabiqoon and awaloon neither he was from Muahjireen and Ansar. Do not equate him with Hassan RA. At one hand Hassan RA is making peace with Muawiyah because he asked for it. Its but a favour from Hassan RA side and doesnt mean that his baghawat against rightly guided caliph Ali r.a is white washed and appointment of his son without consultation of important people from Medina and Mecca is white washed. Reign of Muawiya RA was good but accept his mistakes he was not your Prophet. Mistake number 1 going against Ali RA and declaring himself as amir e sham. Mistake 2 making Yazid caliph and abrogation of Khilafah and beginning of kingdom. Anyone who goes against any Khlifa e Rashid is on batil. Period
For me, there is no argument that can justify supporting actions of Muawiya (ra) or action did by his people . As a logical and rational Muslim who does not follow any sect, I would rather die than align myself with any sectarianism. By using logic and rationality, it becomes clear that actions of Muawiya and his followers are wrong for me. Debating about this conflict is sheer stupidity. No matter how much knowledge someone might have, if they choose to debate on the that, I can only pray to Allah to guide everyone to the truth.
And you are more knowledgeable than Hasan and Hussain RA. They being their on that situation know nothing and you know more than them. Na tu ilmi na tu kitabi, tujhse bahtar , charsi sharaabi. Kyunki unko hosh to aata hai. Magar tum log mirza ke gand bhakti me doobe hue ho.
@@abumussab844 You are deceived by Mirza and Rafizis that you are opening your mouth against a sahabi and dishonouring a sahabi whom Allah has honoured, only to spoil yor Aakhirah for gand bhakti. You are believing persons who are enemies of Islam. And person like Mirza who has no credential at all, who knows no Arabic, whose Quran recitation is so poor that it is caught by kids, and who is sitting inside a studio, reading scripts and acting like a muslim but he speaks like enemies of Islam. He spoke in an interview recently that at the time of Fateh Makkah people accepted Islam because of sword. His words are Fateh Makkah ke waqt unse kaha gaya ke Islam qubool karo warna qatl kiye jaoge. Did Rasoolullah ordered this at the time of Fateh Makkah. He has no guts to debate with anyone, but will comment negatively to the debaters of Speakers corner. They are Mard who are confronting Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Atheists, Agnostics, Shias, Qadianis, lgbtqs and so many. Go and see their debates which are available on youtube. And this Mirza is maligning them. He himself is packed inside his match box like a burn match stick, but he will try to discredit the efforts of real mard people. He is so coward that he dont even face those Alim who reached his academy. He didnt let them in, so scared and coward he is. Without studio and script, he is zero. Open your eyes and see his arrogance in his studio's acting he do.
You are a jahil. You don’t understand what sectarianism is neither do you accept what the books of tareekh is. Calling yourself a Sunni is not sectarianism ya Khadhab. Also learn who Muawiyah was and actually try to learn Arabic.
Maamu party, he knew this hadees from the start but pretended really well😂. I don't know how long these people gonna defend these 2 3 so called sahaba, even if they go to hell, should no be a big matter, i mean what is the meaning of defending of their wrong doings
You are making interpretation from your own mind. Muaviya had political difference due to murder of his cousin not due to enmity with Ali. Hassan gave caliphate to Muaviya which means he considered him muslim and loved him as a muslim brother. Allah's messenger is saying he is sayyid as he will reconcile between two groups of muslims. So we are with Hassan who was a rightful heir to his father. You guys are against him.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
Ku lud rahe ho here is no point of demonising the other. I am staunch follower of enginer ali not a blind follower although i disagree his some arguments. But i agree most of his arguments. Adnan must adress nonmuslims in speakors corner and when it comes to engineer ali this must be discussion between them instead of letting down one another in their absence. Here no point is proven
Best evidence adnaan has to claim hadith is not authentic even though he doesnt know what hadees is. Thats the level of knowledge he has. Very knowledgeable😅
Though i respect adnan and heavily against Engr Mirza on his stance on palestinian issue but i find adnan rashid playing debate tricks and not Islamic in any way as he keeps on cutting them without them establishing their point s whether flawed or not can be argued but he did that which is very deceptive of him.. 2ndly i was able to understand the point they making at the end where they said if Adnan Rashid is. Claiming a Khalifa Rashid bayah erases mistakes of Muwaiya if any and it endorsed by Allah swt then by that logic and extension Muwaiyya making Yazid the Khalifa and turning khilafat ti Mulukiat is also justified as he is the amir ul mominin and Allah is ok with him.... Their point is valid...
That's Why İmam As- Shafi'i said; "If I were to argue with one thousand knowledgeable people,I would surely win the argument.But if I were to argue with one fool,I would lose the argument"..
Bukhari 2812 Prophet Muhammad pbuh said about Hazrat Ammar : He will be killed by a rebellious aggressive group. `Ammar will invite them to (obey) Allah and they will invite him to the (Hell) fire. Read the word GROUP, now these people blaming on 1 person, my question is does Prophet didn't know this ? Adnan Rashid knows more than him Astaghfirullah
Al-Hasan (Al-Basri) said: I heard Abu Bakr saying, "I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on the pulpit and Al-Hasan bin `Ali was by his side. The Prophet (ﷺ) was looking once at the people and once at Al-Hasan bin `Ali saying, 'This son of mine is a Saiyid (i.e. a noble) and may Allah make peace between two big groups of Muslims through him." Sahih al-Bukhari 2704 why did Prophet mentioned two big group of MUSLIMS in this hadith then?
@@farazali1038 hanfi or Ahlehadees.... Mohtram... see the commentries of Top Muhaditheen like ibn e hajr asqalni.. badrudin Ayni.. MULLA ALI Qari... sheikh Abdullah son of MUHAMMAD BIN ABDULWAHAB... Shah Waliullah muhadith Dehlvi..... SHEIKH Nasirudin Albani... Sheikh Zubair ali Zai... and you will understand the truth
@@farazali1038it's like asking to bring me a hadith saying 'ghulaam ahmad qadiyani is a false prophet'. Dude, that's not logical and reasonable. When it's categorically clear that anybody claims to be a prophet after prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam, such person is a kaafir. Similarly, when hadith says it's the jamaah which kills ammaar is on the wrong side then it's commonsense that entire jamaah along with it's leader is addressed. Why would muawiah deliberately order someone to kill either Ali or ammar Or anybody for that matter. They were in a war. This very foolish way of questioning promotes shiaism. Be a sunni by words and action
advise you, Adnan, to discuss this issue from the killing of Othman and those who wanted to establish the Sharia and from rejecting things, it is very clear
These people somehow want to label mirza as 'qandyani' because he says they are kaafirs while also condemning kifr of ashraf ali, chisti and other who claimed prophethood. Does this mean Adnan and his followers belive in ashraf Ali as their prophet. Maybe, that's what hurts them 😂
No- he LITERALLY in the other video said chisti is no. You dabba wala molvi followers are so rattled that you won’t even watch asrars full videos before making comments. Let’s ask you/ Why did Hasan ibn Ali ra (ahlul bayt) do BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra?
If you do good things like saying Salam-ul-Laikum in Dubai no one will fear the Ruler. You only fear the ruler when you do something he forbids. Therefore Muawiya forbade Talbia. Adnan is emotional wrecked jumpy and irritable. This is causing him to misinterpreted hadeeth.
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw. 2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra. Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united? Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler? I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
Adnan’s attitude is just like Trump without knowing the real subject of the question he start giving the answer and then he goes round and round and reaches nowhere
Sorry to say but just to save Muawiya son of Abu sufyan, they misinterepret soo many hadiths intentionally and rejects a lot of quotes, history, ayats and god knows what more. tobah!
It is simple as that .... Follower of engineer are not at the level of engineer Muhammad Ali mirza ... To Me engineer is the one and only who has single handedly exposed and grabbed Sectarianism from its neck.... Adnan has option to go and meet engineer directly ... I think this will shut this debate once and for all ...
@@shacklesunlocked-eb9qr i am a dir heart follower of Engineer Ali mirza. On my fingure tips i know the Hadiths of BUKHARI 2812 , 4108 , Muslim 6220 , 4776 , 6628 , Nisi 3009 , Abu dawood 4131 . But what Adnan is saying is Also correct . MOLA HASSAN IBN ALI AS he gave the Bayah ( if u challange this it will put RASOOL ALLAH SAW saying on line ) SHIA also can’t help it is a lock in there neck.
many scholars have challenged him and not only this but also came to his home town like tariq masood he came from Karachi for a debate but he mad excuses
Mighty mirza who does not know arabic and proper tajweed, ended 1400 years of scholarly works(EVERY DOUBT HE RAISES HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY SCHOLARS WAY ABOVE HIM IN ILM BEFORE HIS LINEAGE CAME INTO EXISTENCE)
And hold firmly to the rope of Allāh all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allāh upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Surah Ali 'Imran - 103
I have been following Adnan Rashid for a long time now, I've seen him single handedly outclass with his strong arguments, the Atheists, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias, in short everyone he has ever debated with but here for the first time Its quite visible that He's going a bit out of the way to justify Muawiya and his actions. Bukhari 2812 is crystal clear, through different authentic versions of this we do know that Ammar Ibn Yasir (Rz) was martyred by an individual named Abul Ghadia Johani from Muawiya's group. Logically speaking, since Muawiya was a feared ruler, how is it possible that one of the governors of Medina appointed by Muawiya himself had the audacity to invoke Allah's curse (لَعَنَ) on Imam Ali (As) and instruct others to do so publicly without this being in the knowledge of Muawiya? 1. For the sake of argument, if we believe that the issue between Imam Ali (As) and Hazrat Muawiya was really over Qatileen e Usman (Rz), why didn't Muawiya publicly execute those killers once he became the ruler? Just to assert this notion that all he wanted was to avenge the blood of Hazrat Usman (Rz), What stopped him from doing that since he was a powerful ruler and the masses feared him, which again is praised by Adnan Bhai here? 2. Another absurd argument is the notion that why were Imam Hassan (As) and Imam Hussain (As) silent on the wrong doings of Muawiya and his Governors if they really did take place back then, Now what if we start applying this everywhere? After the tragedy of Karbala why didn't Imam Zain ul Abideen (As) started avenging the deaths of his entire family and the progeny of the Prophet (SAWW)? Why didn't Abdullah Ibn Umar (Rz) avenge the deaths of the Prophets grandchildren and their families? Just because the Muslims and more importantly certain big names among the Sahaba and their children didn't start avenging for the deaths at Karbala, does this mean that Karbala never happened? 3. If Muawiya's Khilafa is endorsed by the Prophet (SAWW) and Allah, then by extension all of his decisions and affairs are also endorsed by them including the fact that he deliberately put Yazeed on his throne during his lifetime.
Last nail in your tabbot. Why did prophet said the group of Hazrat Muavia as Muslim group. And why did Hazrat hassan give his hand in the hand of hazrat Muavia. And Why do not we should follow hazrat hassan..
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw. 2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra. Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united? Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler? I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
Engineer Ali bhai students are on the floor of speakers corner....well done live long brother inshallah u on the right track❤❤❤❤ALI BHAI IS ON HAQ ....CHAPTER.CLOSE
Thank u for explaining... They understood or not.. I did.. now my mind is clear about this topic and i agree when hassan R.A give bayya to maviya R.A it's Finnish.. 👍
I was the biggest supporter of Engineer in whole covid, for 3 years..... it took only 2 videos of Adnan Rashid for me to do Ruju and again have my faith on Muawiyah RA..... is Muawiyah better than Ali... not even close... but is Muawiyah a Sahabi and Muslim? big yessss
@4:32 he have to check authenticity and context of hadith He came for debate and he don't even know about the hadith lol What is the use of this debate then ? Wasting time and getting views in the name of Eng Muhammad Ali Mirza
😆 r u stupid bro ? Even the scholars of hadith at this time who have been studying hadith for 10yrs 20 yrs , face problems with the authenticity sometimes .. Bcz thare are various books of hadith that are actually some main hadith books...So for a person to know all of it I mean everything, is absolutely impossible when u have this vast sea of knowledge front of you ...Idu u guys, watch the full video at least or some past videos where ur boy has been cooked...Ur boy was literally finding hadith on google every single time in every single video..
This Mirza follower came for debate, Adnaan has been a regular debater at hyde park, he has been debating for decades when engr munna was starting his youtube firna channel
May Allah swt expose such so called scholars! Engineer Mirza is one but in my opinion Sahil Adeem is also on some agenda, he says many righteous things but also add very divisive, abusive remarks and add his political philosophy rather sticking to his knowledge.. he tried best to cash in on Gaza war. To gain support he says many powerful things but his actions and timing is very suspicious
Adnan is wrong. Ibn 'Abbas didn't challenge Mu'awiyya, he acted upon the Sunnah. AhlusSunnah do not challenge the ruler publicly as opposed to the kharijites.
That's exactly the arguement of Adnan. if he challenged and muawiyyah did nothing that means he did not challenge at all. hadith clearly mentions ibn abbas had correct him saying ppl dont want to follow sunnah out of hate Ali r.a (not because they are afraid of muawiyyah)
@@MohOz I'm not talking about the hadith,, I'm talking about Adnan's attempt to explain it without knowledge.. Listen again and lift the veil of blind following off.
@@hakz795 The argument of Br. Adnan is very simple.. if Hazrath Muaviya R.A is FASIQ *Nauzubillah*. And if Hassan R.A knew this.. Then what you consider Hassan R.A action of taking bait to Hazrath Muaviya R.A hand?
Adnaan claims 'engineer is humiliated' by Allah. Is he claiming that he recieves wahi/revelation from Allah. Is he not afraid of Allah while he is claiming something Allah did. That shows his arrogance
You don’t understand English all due respect and many scholars of Hadith themselves literally said so and so is humiliated by Allah. What he meant was that he embarrasses himself. You and your cult ilmi kitabis need to learn.
The damage has been done .. We love muawia may Allah be please with him but due to our prophet Muhammad but that's doesn't mean what he did with ahle bait is right and I am Sunni.....and stop defending muawia and his son yazid both are guilty of killing ahle bait ...shame on u adnan I used to watch your debate but now I feel u becoming so biased against ahle bait and Ali .. shame on u May Allah guide all those Muslims who support yazid ameen..
You are ignorant my brother 😂 have you heard the hadith of Prophet Muhammad about Muawiya? Adnan made an irrefutable point that Hassan gave bayah (which cannot be given to a munafiq) to Muawaiya, this bayah was prophesized and endorsed by Prophet pbuh and Allah himself. If Muawiya was a grave sinner whose party was inviting People to Hell, why would Allah, the most high, the most knowledgeable himself endorse it through the Prophet's mouth.
By saying people who were fighting with Muawiya in the battle against Hazrat Ali R.a. were people of hellfire then you're basically calling Aqil Ibn Abi Talib (brother of Ali) a man deserving of hellfire. These are all sahabas, you don't go around calling sahabas deserving of hell. If Muawiya was such a cursed guy who was inviting people to hellfire, why would he have the honourable job of being a scribe of the Qur'an. By your argument is Allah not more knowledgeable than you or me?
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj @FaisalKhan-md2tj first I never said he is going to hellfire or he will go to heaven because that is not my work that is work of Allah ...by looking Hadith which we found in most of authentic books of Hadith I am highlighting that mistakes or even u look in history it is quite obvious he appoints his son to next khalifa without consulting other and that's not khilafat if u are saying he love prophet Muhammad that why he is not following the khilafat system instead he is following pagan(roam, Persian) system of appointment of next khalifa ... And not all Sahaba are equal and some of are traitor also how we know we know from this verse surah at tawbah Verse 101: "And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] among the people of Madinah. They have persisted in hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then they will be returned to a great punishment."
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj first of all Hasan was following Allah commands Surah Al-Anfal (8:61): "And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing." Hasan was going to fight muawaia but he remembers this verse so he stop and make a treaty but treaty happen with terms so what is the terms these are terms as long these terms are following treaty will be abide between these two but muawia broke these terms which is why Hussain fought very bravely and courageously which show prophet family love Allah and his commands so much that even they are less in numbers they are willing to fight till death....may Allah guide all our Muslim brothers and sisters ameen... 1. **Abdication of Caliphate:** - Hasan agreed to relinquish his position as Caliph in favor of Muawiya, uniting the Muslim community under a single ruler. 2. **Protection and Safety:** - Muawiya guaranteed the safety and protection of Hasan, his family, and his followers, respecting their lives, property, and honor. 3. **Avoidance of Revenge:** - Muawiya promised not to seek revenge against any of Hasan's supporters, ensuring that no one who had sided with Hasan would be persecuted or harmed. 4. **Succession Consultation:** - Muawiya agreed that he would not appoint a successor but would leave the matter of succession to a consultation (shura) among the Muslims, allowing the Muslim community to decide the next Caliph.
@@mubashshiralikhan253point still stands, Muaviya Ra is still a muslim and not kaffir like the shias say he is, because clearly anyone who hates Ahl e Bait is one, however the prophecy of Prophet Pbuh regarding Hasan Ra bringing two "muslim" groups negates any argument saying Muaviya Ra hated Ali Ra etc, because if he did Prophet pbuh would not call both sides muslim. Also stop using aChatGPT.....
Why do we even fight about these things, their deeds are with Allah and he will deal with them accordingly. We should as Muslims be one ummah and care about our own deeds.
Muhammad bin Abubakkar was not Sahabi ,he was Munafiq ,which was also said by Hasan Al Basri(R.H). And Ayesha(R.A) also cursed his brother Muhammad Ibn Abubakkar and Allah accepted this ,and his death was one of the from worst death . And there were no one Sahaba aginst the Caliphate of Uthman(R.A) ,bcz there was Prophecy in Musnad Ahmed which is Sahih Hadith ,where Prophet (PBUH)said to Uthman(RA) ,Allah will give you Caliphate and munafiq will be against your Caliphate ,but dont loose hope and Caliphate unless you come to me.Uthman(R.A) did whatever Prophet(PBUH)said to him.And Uthman(RA) was 3rd Rashidun Caliph , so accepting him and his words is Sunnah and rejecting him was by Khwarij who were Munafiq.
They keep presenting hadeeth of Ammar. That was before Hassan pledged to Muaviya. Hassan pledged to him how can he be a rebellious person in sharaih meaning? How can someone give rule of muslims to a "baaghi" literally. In Mustadrak al haakim there is hadeeth that the rebellious group that killed Ammar was khawarij not Muaviya and his men.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
@@mubarakisonline are oh jahil aisa koi nahi samjhta tum jaise aqal k andho ko sidhi si baat bhi samjh nahi aati toh isme samjhane wale ki kya galati hai..kyunki tum manna hi nahi cahte
Adnaan is very fond of engineer, he is basically personal with engineer because engineer said he only recently knew about adnaan. Now adnaan feels frustrated that how come he said that, while I'm so famous. His proof about engineer knew about him is that he was told by someone who claims to sit in the gathering of Engineer that he was discussed. These guys are doing dawah for what sake? Being famous. Bro adnaan, that's something you should ponder upon and correct yourself.
@@mominkhan6320 you're desperate student of engineer who is trying hard to defend his teacher, who has no manners and now you are gaining sympathy that adnan is getting personal with engineer LOL
Why not anybody is afraid from to Hazrat Umar Hazrat Usman Hazrat Ali ….¿???.? 😢😢😢😮😮😢why only afraid from 2 Hazrat mafia why only one person is afraid early ones…. YoungBoy Show you everything but you say oh it’s true or not true I don’t know but you talking about is all is true why? Why like that you 😢😢😢. After what happened with the Ali sons All buddies killied ,,,,you understand who is and why is? Hazrat Hassan and Hazrat Hussain, what happened with him?
They don't even understand what Adnan has done. They really don't want to understand his point as they know once they understand that they are done so they decided to play dumb.
İmam As- Shafi'i said; "If I were to argue with one thousand knowledgeable people,I would surely win the argument.But if I were to argue with one fool,I would lose the argument".. So dont debate with a fool for anything.İt is not worth debating. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU ARE RIGHT.
Time to unfollow the channel.. that's not how Dawah is done.. malign a fellow brother to garner few views on his strength is plain hypocrisy. Sad that even brother Adnan had to use such tactics
@@bashar4550 who is Muawiyah ? Have you tried to do any research ? Muhammad SAW said after 30 years of khulafa E rasheed there will be biting Monarchy , this is how prophet described his rule.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
@@mubarakisonline that's what this type of Dawah does..random bullshit by blind followers.. be it Adnan or Engineer.. anyone who is not having proper Akhlaq is not on Sunnah
These both guys are unprofessional men who are not there to learn and who keep on jumping from topic to topic, for such men lemme argue about Ammar Ibn-e-Yasir R.A death, if His R.A death would make Muawia R.A a rebellious leader then Ali R.A would have definitely rose that point to justify Muawia R.A crime and claim hisself on right one which he never used death of Ammar R.A and that shows that Ali R.A knew about the rebellious group wasn’t Muawia R.A
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
This is what i understand by this entire discussion: I think the argument he was trying to make was "Was the khilafat of Yazeed a decision of Hazrat Muawaiya RA? If so, then by the same argument we have to follow Yazeed since Hazrat Muawiya's khilafat was endorsed by Hasan RA by Prophet SAWW by Allah." This falls on its back since we know what happened during the rule of Yazeed. Moreover, if we are to just follow the line of argument made by Adnan bhai (a very strong one indeed), we have to deal with the problem of other ahadiths which the two guys were talking about. IF we are to understand the argument and take it as a fact, then we have to disregard a chunk of SAHIH graded hadiths and call the ravis and narrators liars (Nauzubillah) cuz these narrations shouldn't exist cuz we know the rule was endorsed by Hasan RA by Prophet SAWW by Allah. There isn't really another option or maybe I can't reason it atm. I get the reasoning and it is a strong one (the endorsement argument) but it quickly falls short by the chunk of hadiths the guys are quoting. Allah knows best. May Allah guide us all to the right path Ameen.
Peace treaty means to endorse the rule of Muawiyah , then when Muhammad SAW did peace treaty with Mushriks , he accepted them as correct? As Mr Adanan Rashid. , why did Muhammad SAW say that after 30 years of khulafa E Rashid , there will be biting Monarchy , prophet is saying Muawiyah rule is biting Monarchy , and Mr adnan is defending him !!!! what a joke
@@russelindia that's not peace treaty that's bayah Huge difference between just a peace treaty and bayah Btw for the sake of argument even if we agree that muaviya was the part of biting monarchy Then who started the biting monarchy??? Hassan ra right?? By appointing muaviya as ruler
@@AbdulRahman-ci9rf i dont think you got the argument. The whole point of saying it is endorsed by Hasan RA is to say that Khalifa rashid wont pick a guy that will make bad or non shahriah decisions. Basically, no khalifa rashid will pick a man as ameer ul momineen to rule over muslims and to top it off Adnan bhai argued that it was endorsed by Allah. So, if we were to follow the chain of logic, the decisions made by someone chosen by Khalifa rashid will be in our best interest and one of those decisions was handing over the rule to his son. That's my point. That's what i dont understand. Cuz when presented by ahadith of Hazrat Muwaviya rule, Adnan bhai goes straight to this endorsement argument. That it was endorsed by Hasan RA which was prophesized by Prophet SAWW and ultimately endorsed by Allah. Do you follow the dilemma?
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah* Jahalat ki hadd hai...
Here is the most authentic narration (From Sahee Muslim) to proving the point of Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho hate for Mola Ali Alaha Salam (due to hunger of power and worldly objectives) Hadees # 6220 (international # 2404) Of Sahee Muslim. حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبَّادٍ - وَتَقَارَبَا فِي اللَّفْظِ - قَالَا: حَدَّثَنَا حَاتِمٌ وَهُوَ ابْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ - عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ مِسْمَارٍ، عَنْ عَامِرِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: أَمَرَ مُعَاوِيَةُ بْنُ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ سَعْدًا فَقَالَ: مَا مَنَعَكَ أَنْ تَسُبَّ أَبَا التُّرَابِ؟ فَقَالَ: أَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتُ ثَلَاثًا قَالَهُنَّ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَلَنْ أَسُبَّهُ، لَأَنْ تَكُونَ لِي وَاحِدَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِنْ حُمْرِ النَّعَمِ، سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ لَهُ، خَلَّفَهُ فِي بَعْضِ مَغَازِيهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ خَلَّفْتَنِي مَعَ النِّسَاءِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ؟ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى؟ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا نُبُوَّةَ بَعْدِي» وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ يَوْمَ خَيْبَرَ «لَأُعْطِيَنَّ الرَّايَةَ رَجُلًا يُحِبُّ اللهَ وَرَسُولَهُ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ» قَالَ فَتَطَاوَلْنَا لَهَا فَقَالَ: «ادْعُوا لِي عَلِيًّا» فَأُتِيَ بِهِ أَرْمَدَ، فَبَصَقَ فِي عَيْنِهِ وَدَفَعَ الرَّايَةَ إِلَيْهِ، فَفَتَحَ اللهُ عَلَيْهِ، وَلَمَّا نَزَلَتْ هَذِهِ الْآيَةُ: {فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ} [آل عمران: 61] دَعَا رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلِيًّا وَفَاطِمَةَ وَحَسَنًا وَحُسَيْنًا فَقَالَ: «اللهُمَّ هَؤُلَاءِ أَهْلِي» Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) say about 'Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'Ali said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: Let us summon our children and your children. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family. So Ustad Adnan please go through this and other authentic Ahadees without any biase to admit the fact that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was mistaken Due to hunger of power and worldly objectives while mola Ali Alaha Salam was right and have more Taqwa.
Adnaan is praising dubai, saying its organized. Maybe he is praising the construction of dubai temple which was built by dubai rulers. Is he promoting polytheism? omg!
He's making a point of the fear of the leader only specifically stop bringing other irrelevant issues to the main point. We can praise the West for their justice system bi they are kuffar.
They are all pupet of Banu ammuya There is lot of Hadith that already indicate the destructive role of banu ammuya Hazrat Mavia was first king . He abolished the Kihlaft and against islamic law pointed own son as crown prince. Rest is the history
Great “break down” Mr Adnan. If Banu Umaiyya had and public speaker to justify their atrocities, then you would have made to top. Justification of Banu Umaiyya is over, The damage has been done!
Sunan nisaai 3006 is zaeef because of Khalid bin makhlad...ibn Abu hatim says only reason for Khalid bin makhlad to be accepted is that when he narrates from the Ravi of madeena but in nisaai ,Khalid bin makhlad is narrating from the Ravi of kufa, imam bukhari took ahadees from him but the reason was those ahadees were also found with other saheeh isnaad too
If muawiah was legitimately behind qisaas then what made him assume caliphate from hassan when hassan was chosen as caliph through shura? If muawiah wasn't really running behind power and kingship then he could have discussed his deman. Ok, fine lets agree for sake of argument that Ali didn't do it so muawiah moved towards rebellion. His very action of demanding power from hasan is a proof that he had different intention. Moreover, he was made ameer not through shura. Ah, this shouldnt be discussed because we'll be labeled as 'raafdi' just like antisemitism rhetoric!!!
Allah having the knowledge of the future outcome, already declared for all the sahaba “ رضي الله عنهم ورضوا عنه” Now Engr his students and the shia are wasting their lives on a topic that neither Allah or his Messenger ﷺ asked them to investigate , nor will anyone of us be asked who was right on the day of Judgement. The devil has certainly deceived them.
What about you, aren't Allah and messenger enough for you? Why do you need muawiyyah even after clear text criticising him. Prophet himself has told about him that "May Allah never fill his stomach (moawiyah's)
Adnan Rasheed is making qalla baaziyan here! He is denying ahadees.... His debates with Qadiya is are outstanding, but this is not his field, he does not know the history.... Simple point is Opponents of First Caliph are called Khawarij/kaafirs Opponents of second Caliph are called Khawarij/kaafirs Opponents of third caliph are called khawarij/baaghis But opponents of Ali A.S are R.A.... how this is possible....???
Im amazed literally when Rasoolullah SAWW has stamped this act of Hassan RA that means no more arguments..still they have guts to stand against the hadeeth of Rasoolullah SAWW why cant u remain silent and move on as you are not going to answer about what had been happened in the past..
These students should stop interrupting. Its getting annoying. Let Adnan bhai finish his point.
Damage has been done
PIumber ki Dukan band 😂
Adnan Rasheed Nasbi Yazeedi Exposed Even more 😂😂😂🖐️
are you joking ?
@@Fakemotivationalspeakers nupur sharma child go sleep your father is getting fkkd by Amir haq😂
@@Fakemotivationalspeakersustad ki bagal chato jhelum jaake😂😂😂
Haha too good brother. Engineer plumber 😂
Destroyed again , these fools have no chance against Adnan
@@shus5787 I think you did not listen the arguments those guys as adnan sab did not listen
@@qamarpasha445their arguments are useless once hassan gives muaviya kingship of muslims. Bringing past conflicts is stupid then. Then they said we cannot absolutely follow Hassan. Believe me we know all your arguments. Now we shouldn't follow Hassan? But prophet said he is sayid who will reconcile with two groups of muslims. That's the hadeeth. Your arguments get debunked. That's what Adnan is trying to say.
@@osamamanan2723 okay, you say if Hassan A.S did بیعت of moaviya then we accept it because خلیفہ راشد Hassan A.S did this is that your argument?
@@qamarpasha445 yes. Not only that but prophet said hassan is sayid. Prophet endorsed this reconciliation
@@osamamanan2723 same nasibi argument ali bhai has answered this here Hassan is sayid he shows his greatness not mauviya...this is the meaning
Yazid was not Sahaba ,so we dont care about him.I mean we people of Ahle Sunnah don't love or hate or curse him ,let Allah deal with him.
But Hasan ibn Ali, the Ahlul bayt member who gave BAY’AH to him was. You will never ever get away from this point. You can never to BAY’AH to a non Muslim or a tyrant. Was Hasan ra a coward or too weak to say you’re not suitable? Hasan ra has a greater sense of judgement than Engineer.
@@mrannymusimam hasan r.a gave bayan to muwayia r.a not to yazid.
@@hasanraza896 What about Ibn E Abbas who took Bayah? He is known as the Faqeeh Al Ummah. You can never run away from the truth.
@@AbdulBasit-lf6ytare you for real trying to argue in the favour of yazid? Are you a nasibi? If you are then you are also like rafidhis
@@hasanraza896 That was suleh , peace treaty , go and read the hadeeth in bukhari , its mentioned there.
May Allah Bless All the Brothers in Dawah....Ameen
7:40 "Muslim" is the actual word for a person who follows Allah Almighty & Prophet Muhammad ﷺ neither Sunni nor Shia or 🍣
For being Muslim u just need to accept Tauheed and Prophet PBUH the last messenger. but to be expelled from Islam there are tens of thousands of reasons.
@LoveSHAH14
You haven’t read the Quran cover to cover.
Allah in the Quran says “Stick to the Jama’ah”
He also says “Do not split up the Jama’ah”.
Later on all the scholars have referred them to themselves as ahl sunnah, imam Ahmad, Malik, Hanifah, Shafi’i.
So did they reject the Quran here ?
@@Unkn0wn_Legend000 fine go n compile those tens and thousands of list, tick off and make sure you are not falling into any, and later on some scholar will still remove you for making such list 😀
the biggest lie that these followers of engineer say is that they are here to understand, they are so rigid and bling that they are clearly just don't want to understand
Biggest lie? You sure??
Here is the most authentic narration (From Sahee Muslim) to proving the point of Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho hate for Mola Ali Alaha Salam (due to hunger of power and worldly objectives)
Hadees # 6220 (international # 2404) Of Sahee Muslim.
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبَّادٍ - وَتَقَارَبَا فِي اللَّفْظِ - قَالَا: حَدَّثَنَا حَاتِمٌ وَهُوَ ابْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ - عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ مِسْمَارٍ، عَنْ عَامِرِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: أَمَرَ مُعَاوِيَةُ بْنُ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ سَعْدًا فَقَالَ: مَا مَنَعَكَ أَنْ تَسُبَّ أَبَا التُّرَابِ؟ فَقَالَ: أَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتُ ثَلَاثًا قَالَهُنَّ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَلَنْ أَسُبَّهُ، لَأَنْ تَكُونَ لِي وَاحِدَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِنْ حُمْرِ النَّعَمِ، سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ لَهُ، خَلَّفَهُ فِي بَعْضِ مَغَازِيهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ خَلَّفْتَنِي مَعَ النِّسَاءِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ؟ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى؟ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا نُبُوَّةَ بَعْدِي» وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ يَوْمَ خَيْبَرَ «لَأُعْطِيَنَّ الرَّايَةَ رَجُلًا يُحِبُّ اللهَ وَرَسُولَهُ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ» قَالَ فَتَطَاوَلْنَا لَهَا فَقَالَ: «ادْعُوا لِي عَلِيًّا» فَأُتِيَ بِهِ أَرْمَدَ، فَبَصَقَ فِي عَيْنِهِ وَدَفَعَ الرَّايَةَ إِلَيْهِ، فَفَتَحَ اللهُ عَلَيْهِ، وَلَمَّا نَزَلَتْ هَذِهِ الْآيَةُ: {فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ} [آل عمران: 61] دَعَا رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلِيًّا وَفَاطِمَةَ وَحَسَنًا وَحُسَيْنًا فَقَالَ: «اللهُمَّ هَؤُلَاءِ أَهْلِي»
Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said:
What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) say about 'Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'Ali said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: Let us summon our children and your children. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family.
So please go through this and other authentic Ahadees without any biase to admit the fact that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was mistaken Due to hunger of power and worldly objectives while mola Ali Alaha Salam was right and have more Taqwa.
@@mohammadwaqar3896 the answer to this is also in this video, but you just proved my point, Mirza followers just don't want to understand
@@usmanmb1 bro Ustad Adnan never clear this point of this hadees.
You don't get the simple point which is "Hazrat Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was a malook (as pr authentic narrations) and he had done some horrible things due to "Hub-ul-Dunya and hunger of power".
Now people (Shia specially and some sunni) are on the extreme to gave verdict about Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho as munafiq or kafir they are literally pre determine about the decisions of Akhira in this dunya,which are literally not their work to do.
But sahee ahadees are pretty much clear that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho pushes his governors to push people to bait on his son Yazeed and does a lot of wrong doings in Deen.
@@mohammadwaqar3896 who gave you the authority to pass judgement? Didn't Hasan RA knew all this? ( If it's true), why did hazrat Hasan RA made him the Ameer ul momineen? During hazrat moavia's 20 year rule can you provide one evidence of hazrat Hasan and Hussain RA not being happy about the rule?
Secondly, the meaning of the hadees of sahih Muslim is that why don't you criticize hazrat ali RA, not abuse, their are also other ahdees were the word sab is used, will it also mean to abuse? You guys don't know Arabic yet when ulema who know Arabic tell you the correct meaning you refuse to accept
And ustaad Adnan clearly told you guys that know one in the ahlu sunnah regard hazrat moavia as a khalifa e Rashid, but yes we do accept him as khalifa, you guys don't even know the difference
There are countless videos by different ulemas on all the allegations that junior Mirza has put, but you guys just don't want to listen to them
This is the peak of ignorance
the argument was correct... If hazrat Hassan's ra bait of ameer muawiyah ra absolves him of everything, thn it was muawiya who make yazeed the leader of the believers and using the same logic, yazeed is absolved too... so this does'nt makes sense
Marwaan was appointed by muawiyyah, who happens to kill 1000s of sahaba. So basically, adnaan is saying that the blood is on muawiyah because he appointed him. Pata nahi kis school me para hai isne
@@syedharis3235 bruh Muawiya raziallah anhu is not sayyed ... His Bayt between MUAWIYA and Hussain raziallahu anhu's was ( peshangoi ) matlb Nabi ne kaha tha ye hoga lekin yazeed aur Muawiya raziallah anhu k beech ye ni tha ( ki Nabi ne aisa kuch kaha tha to muawiya raziallah anhu ne yazeed ko ameer banaya ) it's so different case ... Don't mixed togethers case
@@syedharis3235 are bhai Hazrat Hassan ki Hazrat Muaviya k hath per bayat Nabi SAWW ki hadith hai us prr jis se wo haq such sabit hota, Hazrat Muaviya ka Yazeed ko wali ehad banana galati thi aur insan galati kar skta hai lekin Nabi SAWW ki baat galat kese hogi jab wo keh chuke ye mera beta syed hai aur ye muslman k do bare giroh k darmiyan suleh karwaega aur Hazrat Hassan ne sirf sulah nhn kee khilafat Qurban kardi Aman k lye aur khilafat kisi criminal k hath to de nhn skta kyun Syed hai noble hai uska decision galat nhn hoga… This proves Hazrat Muaviya was a Good sahabi but yess he was a human and he did mistakes but he is a great sahabi aur hum us k peron k khaak k barabar b nhn hain….
No. You're wrong. Hassan is khalifa-e-rashid, and we are instructed to follow the khalifa-e-rashid. Muawiyah is not khalifa-e-rashid. Simple!
@@hafizusmanmahmood3656 so you are admitting that what muawiyyah did was wrong?(making yazeed king after him)
These guys claim to be the divine followers with such a weak EMAAN on Hassan R.A.
Once Hassan R.A gave "Bay'ah" then khallas, the case is closed. How dare anyone can argue on that and disrespect Hassan's R.A. Bay'ah.
There was a peace treaty between the two. Go educate yourself and read the conditions of the treaty.
@@Rpkostanosdid hassan RA gave bayah to muavia RA?
@@Rpkostanos first you educate yourself and know the difference between peace treaty and Bay'ah ( pledge of allegiance ).
And what happens after in his reign read that aswell it was not shariah khilafah only kingship against the islam which yazeed his son followed by un islamic way of his selection as zulm to ummah
@@faizanzahid553 no. Hussain RA won't live quietly and taking wazifas under a ruler who is not implementing sharia.
You guys are so depressed and desperate to accuse Muavia RA of anything you don't even think what necessary outcome of that accusations.
This time adnans argument is weak.... Comparing mauviya ruler to ruler of dubai.... 😂😂😂 this is khallas.....
Any answer why Hasan ra gave BAY’AH.
Was it to a criminal? He’s wrong
Can you give a BAY’AH to an unfit ruler? He’s wrong.
Any reply to the hadeeth where Hasan ra will put 2 MUSLIM groups together?
Run all day long you’ll never be able to answer this.
@doctor8417 did you even try to watch the point of Adnan ?
You are being a jahil.
He’s not comparing anyone.
He’s literally just showing the people should fear the Ruler.
This is Khadhib to think this way.
@@Bantszf Yeah i agree. The people should fear the ruler and obey him as per Adnan.
With the same logic Muaviyah should have feared and obeyed the ruler of his time which was Imam Hasan !
@@Bantszf I did it was weak, his whole argument is weak. Khilafa Rashida was over at 30 years. After that it was biting kingship and Imam Hasan absolved himself of the rule b3cause the 30 years are over. Hasan ended the bloodshed through his action, but it's not endorsement of Muawiyyah being a good leader. Ending bloodshed and fighting trumps bad behaviour. Since when has bayah removed the sins of a person except by his repentance for his evil actions. Is Adnan saying Muawiyyah was an unbeliever, then after the bayah he became a believer 😂😂😂
Plumbers boys and the Shia are weak. Ahlus-sunnah has all the arguments against the salafi claim, we just don't open the door to bashing a sahabi even though we don't go out of our way to praise him. We follow the ancestors who were honest about his bad behaviour and then we go silent, due to his sohbah.
@@phenomabbasbrain dead no ability to rationalise may Allah guide us 🤲🏾
Adnan is at so low level now student is showing sahih hadees but adnan is saying we have to check authenticity😂😂😂
That's why Call You plumberis Ravi Name Khalid Ibne makhlad Is Zaif Ravi Most of the Moahddith Called him Zaif 🗿
Because You read Hadith online 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Arab324mu se supaari nikaal kar baat re baaba
And you are called? sanitary pipes which the plumber is fixing. Lagta hai plumber ne tumhe abhi tak sahi nahi kya
@@mominkhan6320 Plumber ne kitni Debate's ki he aur Kis kis se ek debate to bata de ? iron Drone Hafizaulluah 😂😂😂😂😂
Did adnan just say that Ammar Radiallahu Anhu was killed by the Khawarij even though we have clear reports that he was killed by a Sahabi named Abu'l Gadhiya?
Maybe he thinks abul ghadiya as khawarij. They can assume anything because they are authority!
@@mominkhan6320 who made adnan authority? I've seen actual scholars say that Abu'l Ghadiya Radiallahu Anh was the killer of Ammar Radiallahu Anh
@@SuperGulamali Mate ilmi kitabi cult followers say Muawiyah was a misguided person you most likely say the same thing.
Them being a companion doesn’t mean they aren’t khawarij.
The prophet literally called a companion a khariji when the companion tried to get war booty from him.
@@Bantszf On what basis did you say that I beleive Muawiya radiallahu anh was misguided? I never said that? But I also don't go to the extreme like most people do and believe that he was Maasoom and never did anything wrong. The only belief I have is that Ali Radiallahu Anh was on the Haq and Muawiya radiallahu anh was wrong to go against him in the name of Qisas on Uthman radiallahu anh, which he never even did once he got into power suprisingly!
Talking against yazid .. doens't mean we are Shias
I am Sunni and i do agree with the point of view of er ali Mirza and
Mohd ishaq ...
whys is this person..... mentioning engg mohd ali in the thumbnail...that doesnt downgrade that man... he is not even involved and nor engg mohd ali has sent that person to adnan... this is totally wrong to taking his photo and uploading on the thumbnail... e
No that's not wrong Murza engineer is spreading those lies in TH-cam these men literally said they followed mirza arguments and these are mirza arguments so it's all seems justified.
Money 🤑🤑🤑
Its not Adnan Rashid's official channel so he is not responsible for this
Mirza plumber is brainwashing ignorant fools.
This guy previously claimed himself to be a student of engineer mirzae.
Adnaan knows nothing about the discussed ahadees still he wants to refute the point, he claims he doesnt know the chronology but yet he wants the questioner to assume stuff..this show how much importance they give to ahadees. Basically, irrespective of what hadith says or what it actually means, they want to bring hadees and its meaning in accordance with their understanding. SubhanAllah
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw.
2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra.
Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united?
Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler?
I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
@@mrannymus who says Muawiya RA was not a muslim, but we say that he made mistakes that inturn led to Qarbla, 1st step was to appoint his son as next authority, we believe as a human, anyone can make mistakes, whats the issue with it?
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Because dabba wali sarkar tries to pretend Hasan ra made a Sulh agreement. He did not- it was BAY’AH.
@@mrannymus Hazrat Hassan AS avoided bloodshed, thats why he made agreement,
@@RandomVideos-cn3lt
You CANNOT MAKE AN BAY’AH WITH A KAFIR!
Better sahaba like Abu bakr ra, Umar ra, Uthman ra and Ali ra all had the chance to avoid bloodshed- they purposely chose war to stop religious arguments. But Hasan ra somehow didn’t want to battle? It is against religious principles to appoint an unfit ruler! What you’re saying is that Hasan ra thought that this man who may go against Islam- I will personally approve him. Ridiculous!
He gave BAY’AH and you cannot find any evidence to the contrary.
Adnaan is just fooling around by saying 'Hasan' gave bay'ah to muawiah and we should follow him as he was a caliph. Who is denying that, if we were there then we would have given bay'ah but that very same bay'ah was broken by husain after he witnessed brutality of muawiyah, when he say his brother being poisoned. When he saw that muawiah turning the ummah into kindgdom and following traditions of ramans and persions. Basically, adnaan thinks muslims are fools when cut-copy-paste and read between lines and misinterpret thinks then everybody will believe
Adnan is clearly not letting him read hadiths 😂😂😂
I will give you the chance to paste it here lets have a debate??
@@asiaijaz3352 oh okay
@@asiaijaz3352 It has been narrated on the authority of 'Abd al-Rahman b. Abd Rabb al-Ka'ba who said: I entered the mosque when 'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As was sitting in the shade of the Ka'ba........I said to him: This cousin of yours, Mu'awiya, orders us to unjustly consume our wealth among ourselves and to kill one another, while Allah says: O ye who believe, do not consume your wealth among yourselves unjustly, unless it be trade based on mutual agreement, and do not kill yourselves. Verily, God is Merciful to you (iv. 29). The narrator says that (hearing this) Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-As kept quiet for a while and then said: Obey him in so far as he is obedient to God; and diqobey him in matters involving disobedience to God.
Sahih Muslim 4776
@@abumussab844 yeah sure sahi Muslim???but who was Abdur Rehman bin abd e rabbe Kaaba??
@@asiaijaz3352 you tell. Imam Muslim wrote it as Sahih Hadees 🤔🤑
Brother Adnan Rashid explained very well. May Allah reward him with goodness.
Adnan bhai is ready to accuse anyone except Muawaiya RA
@@RandomVideos-cn3lt so prove him wrong a with authentic proof 😂
If Imam Hassan A.S was Khalifa Rashid, then why Muaviya R.A didn't accepted it....?? Muaviya R.A didn't accepted Mola Ali A.S as khalifah either....
so why you say him Muaviya ra ?? if he didn't accept or your er told you to say so ??
Only reason Muawia R.A was fighting was to take revenge of Usman R. A coz his clan couldn’t let that shadah of Usman r.A go like that, it’s simple to understand if you don’t have sickness in your heart
Except Hasan Ra accepted him. You engineer/shia wannabes can never ever get around this point. Either Hasan ra is wrong/stupid (elected a known criminal) or the Saheeh Hadith stating follow the khilafah rashideen and Muawiyah ra got given BAY’AH
Simple ans to your question is that our scholars of ahlus sunnah are silent on this topic so we should also be silent and we don't have that height to discuss this issue
@@SyedAquib-g6b I said to him. they consider Muawiya is wrong so why they say ra? will any Muslim go against ahle bayt and do atrocities on them still be muslim? These rafzis molvis just have no knowledge just say reading quran without context and without ulama is possible
I pray for these student of Mirza Ali but they come across box headed, completely brain dead.
I don't understand what u r getting for Defending Hazrat Muawiya?
Hate from Muslims ?
If there is single hadth against any Sahabi then its done let it be with Allah but please don't Defend
What if Hazrat Muawiya was wrong ? And all your life you are defending him.
Thats why i never defended Hazrat Muawiya nor i said bad about him
I will only support Ahl e Bait
Thats my thing
I don't know how these people will face Hazrat ali, hassan & hussan RA youm al qayamah
I guess You didn't understand his argument as well, where did he defended all of his actions. His arguemnt is about the day of the Sulah/Bayat. Adnan said several times whatever happened after that is a different chapter and needs seperate discussion. He is talking about the point util which the Sulah was done.
If hazrat Hassan a.s. (Ahl e Bait) is doing Sulah with someon eand Bait then who are we to question and judge. Whatever happens after that Allah will be the judge and what Hazrat Hussain did was right!
Solo(Adnan ) vs 4 hidden shias? 😂( 48:30 )
For all of those who are in support of Ahle Bait A.S(Which is the part of every muslim imaan), I pray may our lord make us be with Ahle bait A.S in the end times...
and for those who support banu umayya may out lord treat them as the yazid will be treated on the day of judgement.....except Usman ghani and umar bin abdul aziz R.A.......
Those are supporting khawarij.. may Allah make their Akhira with them.. (like Engineer Mirza Junior)
Ameen
@@mubarakisonline bro i am not supporting any khwarji or engineer.... i am a muslim i will die for prophet and Allah and defend and protect Ahle bait A.S ... May grant you true guidance brother....
@@mubarakisonline and you dont have any evidence or seen proves or any ruhani takat that can prove anyone is khwarji or not.....
@@mdabdulrawoof3533
Bro ..i don't have ruhani takat but
I have evidence of Engineer Mirza Junior supporting khwarij..
Engineer Mirza Junior said
Mola ALI R.A and Khwarij BHAI BHAI
Mola ALI R.A ne khwarij k janazay padhaye
Mola ALI R.A ne khwarij k liye dua e magfirat ki
Khwarij k liye mein narm ghosha rakh sakta hun..
Who was responsible of disturbing Khilafat e Rashida and Who has started MULOOKIAT in Islam?
Khwarij
@@MustafizulIslam-w2y not really my friend. Yazeed’s appointment was not done by Khawarij.
@@MustafizulIslam-w2y who refused to give bayah to 4th Khalifa e rashid and made his own state within a state?
harat hassan rda by giving doing agreement with Muwawiya rda... hold Hassan rda responsible?
@@jasimisbest2 Read Musanaf of ibn abi shaybah, how that agreement took place. That Bayah is will not wash out refusal to give bayah to Ali r.a when he took charge. Muawiyah may Allah forgive his sins, was not amongst sabiqoon and awaloon neither he was from Muahjireen and Ansar. Do not equate him with Hassan RA. At one hand Hassan RA is making peace with Muawiyah because he asked for it. Its but a favour from Hassan RA side and doesnt mean that his baghawat against rightly guided caliph Ali r.a is white washed and appointment of his son without consultation of important people from Medina and Mecca is white washed.
Reign of Muawiya RA was good but accept his mistakes he was not your Prophet. Mistake number 1 going against Ali RA and declaring himself as amir e sham. Mistake 2 making Yazid caliph and abrogation of Khilafah and beginning of kingdom.
Anyone who goes against any Khlifa e Rashid is on batil. Period
For me, there is no argument that can justify supporting actions of Muawiya (ra) or action did by his people . As a logical and rational Muslim who does not follow any sect, I would rather die than align myself with any sectarianism. By using logic and rationality, it becomes clear that actions of Muawiya and his followers are wrong for me. Debating about this conflict is sheer stupidity. No matter how much knowledge someone might have, if they choose to debate on the that, I can only pray to Allah to guide everyone to the truth.
And you are more knowledgeable than Hasan and Hussain RA. They being their on that situation know nothing and you know more than them. Na tu ilmi na tu kitabi, tujhse bahtar , charsi sharaabi. Kyunki unko hosh to aata hai. Magar tum log mirza ke gand bhakti me doobe hue ho.
@@jamilahmed-uk9ocHasan R.A saved the blood of innocent Muslims whom Muawiya had deceived
@@abumussab844 You are deceived by Mirza and Rafizis that you are opening your mouth against a sahabi and dishonouring a sahabi whom Allah has honoured, only to spoil yor Aakhirah for gand bhakti. You are believing persons who are enemies of Islam. And person like Mirza who has no credential at all, who knows no Arabic, whose Quran recitation is so poor that it is caught by kids, and who is sitting inside a studio, reading scripts and acting like a muslim but he speaks like enemies of Islam. He spoke in an interview recently that at the time of Fateh Makkah people accepted Islam because of sword. His words are Fateh Makkah ke waqt unse kaha gaya ke Islam qubool karo warna qatl kiye jaoge. Did Rasoolullah ordered this at the time of Fateh Makkah. He has no guts to debate with anyone, but will comment negatively to the debaters of Speakers corner. They are Mard who are confronting Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Atheists, Agnostics, Shias, Qadianis, lgbtqs and so many. Go and see their debates which are available on youtube. And this Mirza is maligning them. He himself is packed inside his match box like a burn match stick, but he will try to discredit the efforts of real mard people. He is so coward that he dont even face those Alim who reached his academy. He didnt let them in, so scared and coward he is. Without studio and script, he is zero. Open your eyes and see his arrogance in his studio's acting he do.
You are a jahil.
You don’t understand what sectarianism is neither do you accept what the books of tareekh is.
Calling yourself a Sunni is not sectarianism ya Khadhab.
Also learn who Muawiyah was and actually try to learn Arabic.
@@abumussab844okay so what was it ?
Muawiyah (Ra) harmed Hassan (Ra) or Hassan (ra) saved them ?
Be consistent and show us a source
Maamu party, he knew this hadees from the start but pretended really well😂. I don't know how long these people gonna defend these 2 3 so called sahaba, even if they go to hell, should no be a big matter, i mean what is the meaning of defending of their wrong doings
sir adnan plz understand the thing ,Ali (a.s) is always with haq .if you dont with site of Ali(a.s) so you cant with hassan(a.s)
You are making interpretation from your own mind. Muaviya had political difference due to murder of his cousin not due to enmity with Ali. Hassan gave caliphate to Muaviya which means he considered him muslim and loved him as a muslim brother. Allah's messenger is saying he is sayyid as he will reconcile between two groups of muslims. So we are with Hassan who was a rightful heir to his father. You guys are against him.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
@@mubarakisonline
True
Ku lud rahe ho here is no point of demonising the other. I am staunch follower of enginer ali not a blind follower although i disagree his some arguments. But i agree most of his arguments. Adnan must adress nonmuslims in speakors corner and when it comes to engineer ali this must be discussion between them instead of letting down one another in their absence. Here no point is proven
Lol... There's no evidence of Muawiya's hatred for Ali ibn Abu Talib? Really mate? Where have you looked for this evidence ?
@@mmd2156 go ahead
Best evidence adnaan has to claim hadith is not authentic even though he doesnt know what hadees is. Thats the level of knowledge he has. Very knowledgeable😅
Though i respect adnan and heavily against Engr Mirza on his stance on palestinian issue but i find adnan rashid playing debate tricks and not Islamic in any way as he keeps on cutting them without them establishing their point s whether flawed or not can be argued but he did that which is very deceptive of him.. 2ndly i was able to understand the point they making at the end where they said if Adnan Rashid is. Claiming a Khalifa Rashid bayah erases mistakes of Muwaiya if any and it endorsed by Allah swt then by that logic and extension Muwaiyya making Yazid the Khalifa and turning khilafat ti Mulukiat is also justified as he is the amir ul mominin and Allah is ok with him.... Their point is valid...
That's Why İmam As- Shafi'i said;
"If I were to argue with one thousand knowledgeable people,I would surely win the argument.But if I were to argue with one fool,I would lose the argument"..
This are same like shias who says Ali was silent while his wife got under door 🚪 by umar what a non sense this people how deluded this people are
😂
You are same like naasbis who willingly and knowingly hate ahle bait but don't accept it. How deluded you are
Rebuking at ali abn abi talib is ok? Criticize ali abn abi talib is ok? If its ok then you will go to jahanum taking shortcuts insha'Allah
Bukhari 2812
Prophet Muhammad pbuh said about Hazrat Ammar : He will be killed by a rebellious aggressive group. `Ammar will invite them to (obey) Allah and they will invite him to the (Hell) fire.
Read the word GROUP, now these people blaming on 1 person, my question is does Prophet didn't know this ? Adnan Rashid knows more than him Astaghfirullah
Al-Hasan (Al-Basri) said: I heard Abu Bakr saying, "I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on the pulpit and Al-Hasan bin `Ali was by his side. The Prophet (ﷺ) was looking once at the people and once at Al-Hasan bin `Ali saying, 'This son of mine is a Saiyid (i.e. a noble) and may Allah make peace between two big groups of Muslims through him." Sahih al-Bukhari 2704
why did Prophet mentioned two big group of MUSLIMS in this hadith then?
Bring a report where it is proven that he was killed by muwayah order
@@farazali1038 hanfi or Ahlehadees....
Mohtram... see the commentries of Top Muhaditheen like
ibn e hajr asqalni..
badrudin Ayni..
MULLA ALI Qari...
sheikh Abdullah son of MUHAMMAD BIN ABDULWAHAB...
Shah Waliullah muhadith Dehlvi.....
SHEIKH Nasirudin Albani...
Sheikh Zubair ali Zai...
and you will understand the truth
@@farazali1038it's like asking to bring me a hadith saying 'ghulaam ahmad qadiyani is a false prophet'. Dude, that's not logical and reasonable. When it's categorically clear that anybody claims to be a prophet after prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam, such person is a kaafir. Similarly, when hadith says it's the jamaah which kills ammaar is on the wrong side then it's commonsense that entire jamaah along with it's leader is addressed. Why would muawiah deliberately order someone to kill either Ali or ammar Or anybody for that matter. They were in a war. This very foolish way of questioning promotes shiaism. Be a sunni by words and action
@@mominkhan6320 exactly my point brother
advise you, Adnan, to discuss this issue from the killing of Othman and those who wanted to establish the Sharia and from rejecting things, it is very clear
This punk forgot the point number 6 of Hasan Treaty
These people somehow want to label mirza as 'qandyani' because he says they are kaafirs while also condemning kifr of ashraf ali, chisti and other who claimed prophethood. Does this mean Adnan and his followers belive in ashraf Ali as their prophet. Maybe, that's what hurts them 😂
No- he LITERALLY in the other video said chisti is no. You dabba wala molvi followers are so rattled that you won’t even watch asrars full videos before making comments. Let’s ask you/ Why did Hasan ibn Ali ra (ahlul bayt) do BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra?
@@mominkhan6320 where Ashraf ali claimed prophet hood? he gave taabeer of dream.
@@Hassan2565He actually endorsed it(Read the full story)
@uzone8571 i have read both parts, now you dont have any sensible arguments. where is the ashrafi cult like mirza gulam maloon?
@@mominkhan6320 your cult doesn’t understand English 😂😂😂😂
Where did ashraf Ali say he is a prophet you cult
Adnan is clearly stumbling. Muawiya cannot be defended if you're a real Ahlul Sunnah.
Adnan doesn't realised how arrogant he sounds
If you do good things like saying Salam-ul-Laikum in Dubai no one will fear the Ruler. You only fear the ruler when you do something he forbids. Therefore Muawiya forbade Talbia.
Adnan is emotional wrecked jumpy and irritable. This is causing him to misinterpreted hadeeth.
the hadith says they avoid sunnah out of hatred for Ali meaning not because Muawiyyah forbade it.
@@MohOz the hadith says that they are afraid of Muawiyyah 0:20
Haha plumber ki dukaan band
@@asadahmed4993haan, aur adnaan aur groups ki sanitary ki dukaan chalu 😂😂😂
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw.
2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra.
Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united?
Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler?
I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
57:56 thats how you built your argument and then try smart
Adnan’s attitude is just like Trump without knowing the real subject of the question he start giving the answer and then he goes round and round and reaches nowhere
I love that there are civil discussions.. i love that now we are all able to have conversations!
Sorry to say but just to save Muawiya son of Abu sufyan, they misinterepret soo many hadiths intentionally and rejects a lot of quotes, history, ayats and god knows what more. tobah!
Yes because they are pet of banu ummaya and blind followers of their sectarian maulvis
Haha
Damage has been done
Plumber ki dukaan band
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@asadahmed4993 this was reply to my comment? No doubts why you guys are so dumb. Your comment depicts that.
@@asadahmed4993aur adnan and followers ki sanitary ki dukaan chalu 😂
@@youcantguessit no bro...by bring fabricated hadeeth we cant just accept the narrative, if you have aithetic clear cut hadeeths bring them forward.
It is simple as that .... Follower of engineer are not at the level of engineer Muhammad Ali mirza ... To Me engineer is the one and only who has single handedly exposed and grabbed Sectarianism from its neck.... Adnan has option to go and meet engineer directly ... I think this will shut this debate once and for all ...
@@shacklesunlocked-eb9qr i am a dir heart follower of Engineer Ali mirza. On my fingure tips i know the Hadiths of BUKHARI 2812 , 4108 , Muslim 6220 , 4776 , 6628 , Nisi 3009 , Abu dawood 4131 . But what Adnan is saying is Also correct . MOLA HASSAN IBN ALI AS he gave the Bayah ( if u challange this it will put RASOOL ALLAH SAW saying on line ) SHIA also can’t help it is a lock in there neck.
@@shacklesunlocked-eb9qr but he doesn't come out of home how can they have a debate 😂😂😂😂😂
many scholars have challenged him and not only this but also came to his home town like tariq masood he came from Karachi for a debate but he mad excuses
@@noobGamer.68 what actually happened and what was behind the scenes we have seen it all. Whatever you are saying... you will achieve nothing...
Mighty mirza who does not know arabic and proper tajweed, ended 1400 years of scholarly works(EVERY DOUBT HE RAISES HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY SCHOLARS WAY ABOVE HIM IN ILM BEFORE HIS LINEAGE CAME INTO EXISTENCE)
And hold firmly to the rope of Allāh all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allāh upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it.
Surah Ali 'Imran - 103
I have been following Adnan Rashid for a long time now, I've seen him single handedly outclass with his strong arguments, the Atheists, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias, in short everyone he has ever debated with but here for the first time Its quite visible that He's going a bit out of the way to justify Muawiya and his actions. Bukhari 2812 is crystal clear, through different authentic versions of this we do know that Ammar Ibn Yasir (Rz) was martyred by an individual named Abul Ghadia Johani from Muawiya's group. Logically speaking, since Muawiya was a feared ruler, how is it possible that one of the governors of Medina appointed by Muawiya himself had the audacity to invoke Allah's curse (لَعَنَ) on Imam Ali (As) and instruct others to do so publicly without this being in the knowledge of Muawiya?
1. For the sake of argument, if we believe that the issue between Imam Ali (As) and Hazrat Muawiya was really over Qatileen e Usman (Rz), why didn't Muawiya publicly execute those killers once he became the ruler? Just to assert this notion that all he wanted was to avenge the blood of Hazrat Usman (Rz), What stopped him from doing that since he was a powerful ruler and the masses feared him, which again is praised by Adnan Bhai here?
2. Another absurd argument is the notion that why were Imam Hassan (As) and Imam Hussain (As) silent on the wrong doings of Muawiya and his Governors if they really did take place back then, Now what if we start applying this everywhere? After the tragedy of Karbala why didn't Imam Zain ul Abideen (As) started avenging the deaths of his entire family and the progeny of the Prophet (SAWW)? Why didn't Abdullah Ibn Umar (Rz) avenge the deaths of the Prophets grandchildren and their families? Just because the Muslims and more importantly certain big names among the Sahaba and their children didn't start avenging for the deaths at Karbala, does this mean that Karbala never happened?
3. If Muawiya's Khilafa is endorsed by the Prophet (SAWW) and Allah, then by extension all of his decisions and affairs are also endorsed by them including the fact that he deliberately put Yazeed on his throne during his lifetime.
They have no chance other than running in Moaivah's case.
Last nail in your tabbot. Why did prophet said the group of Hazrat Muavia as Muslim group. And why did Hazrat hassan give his hand in the hand of hazrat Muavia. And Why do not we should follow hazrat hassan..
Brother Adnan I hope you know more about the other books of hadith. cause you are saying time and again that I have to check the authenticity. 🤔
Nasai is controversial.
Why would Muawiyya forbid talabiyya? Is Talabiyya sunn’at of Ali?
Muawiyah did much worse things than that.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
@@mubarakisonlineaur tum mirza ki dushmani me apne aap ko Allah ke nabi se bhi zyadah samajdar mante ho!
Tumhari jahaalat ki to had bhi nahi hai
1. Hasan ra will unite 2 MUSLIM groups.Saheeh Hadith from the prophet saw.
2. Hasan ra gave BAY’AH to Muawiyah ra.
Q1. Which MUSLIM groups were united?
Q2. Can you give BAY’AH to a criminal/Kafir/unfit ruler?
I’ve space things out for you so you answer it.
@@mominkhan6320
Astakhfirullah..
Chalo sabit karo kese?
Naa kar sakay to.. jhoto par Allah ki Lanat
Engineer Ali bhai students are on the floor of speakers corner....well done live long brother inshallah u on the right track❤❤❤❤ALI BHAI IS ON HAQ ....CHAPTER.CLOSE
@@SHJshorts bullshit
Thank u for explaining...
They understood or not..
I did.. now my mind is clear about this topic and i agree when hassan R.A give bayya to maviya R.A it's Finnish.. 👍
where is the reffrence the khawarij was the iraqi people
If adnaan said it then it'll be. Basically we first make statement and then prepare proofs! That's why we are called naasbis!!
Who Killed Ammar and which Group he belongs too.
I was the biggest supporter of Engineer in whole covid, for 3 years.....
it took only 2 videos of Adnan Rashid for me to do Ruju and again have my faith on Muawiyah RA..... is Muawiyah better than Ali... not even close... but is Muawiyah a Sahabi and Muslim? big yessss
@@syedharis1906 Engineer is also considering him both Sahabi and Muslim, so where is the argument? 😂😂😂
@@truthloverskosalaam6038 he is munafiq, he says on camera but brings weak hadiths to attack hazrat muawiyah... preople know what im talking about
@@syedharis1906
2812....😂
@@Nadeem.khansaab Hassan ki Bait😆😆
@@syedharis1906 HASAN NAHI HASAN ALLAYHISSALAAM BOL BHAI...
WO NABI KE NAWASE HAI.
AHLE BAIT SE ITNI NAFRAT SAHI NAHI..
TU APNE MAMU PE MAT CHAL..
Plz let the public speak,just listen what point they want make brother.
@4:32 he have to check authenticity and context of hadith
He came for debate and he don't even know about the hadith lol
What is the use of this debate then ?
Wasting time and getting views in the name of Eng Muhammad Ali Mirza
Are you stupid? This obviously doesn't look like a pre-planned debate, this is just discussion like all the other discussions in Hyde Park.
😆 r u stupid bro ? Even the scholars of hadith at this time who have been studying hadith for 10yrs 20 yrs , face problems with the authenticity sometimes .. Bcz thare are various books of hadith that are actually some main hadith books...So for a person to know all of it I mean everything, is absolutely impossible when u have this vast sea of knowledge front of you ...Idu u guys, watch the full video at least or some past videos where ur boy has been cooked...Ur boy was literally finding hadith on google every single time in every single video..
This Mirza follower came for debate, Adnaan has been a regular debater at hyde park, he has been debating for decades when engr munna was starting his youtube firna channel
Adnan Bhai your arguments are. Getting weak.
May Allah swt expose such so called scholars! Engineer Mirza is one but in my opinion Sahil Adeem is also on some agenda, he says many righteous things but also add very divisive, abusive remarks and add his political philosophy rather sticking to his knowledge.. he tried best to cash in on Gaza war. To gain support he says many powerful things but his actions and timing is very suspicious
Adnan is wrong.
Ibn 'Abbas didn't challenge Mu'awiyya, he acted upon the Sunnah.
AhlusSunnah do not challenge the ruler publicly as opposed to the kharijites.
And what about Hassan R.A?
That's exactly the arguement of Adnan. if he challenged and muawiyyah did nothing that means he did not challenge at all. hadith clearly mentions ibn abbas had correct him saying ppl dont want to follow sunnah out of hate Ali r.a (not because they are afraid of muawiyyah)
@@MohOz
I'm not talking about the hadith,, I'm talking about Adnan's attempt to explain it without knowledge..
Listen again and lift the veil of blind following off.
@@mubarakisonline
What about him?
@@hakz795
The argument of Br. Adnan is very simple.. if Hazrath Muaviya R.A is FASIQ *Nauzubillah*.
And if Hassan R.A knew this..
Then what you consider Hassan R.A action of taking bait to Hazrath Muaviya R.A hand?
Adnaan claims 'engineer is humiliated' by Allah. Is he claiming that he recieves wahi/revelation from Allah. Is he not afraid of Allah while he is claiming something Allah did. That shows his arrogance
You don’t understand English all due respect and many scholars of Hadith themselves literally said so and so is humiliated by Allah.
What he meant was that he embarrasses himself.
You and your cult ilmi kitabis need to learn.
Same way plumber mirza without wahi said that Mongols were azaab e ilahi on muslim sufis.
Where did he tell like that?
Who left khalifa e Rashid in sefeen and didn't participate, were on the wrong side. Hazrat Ali r.a was on the haq.
The damage has been done ..
We love muawia may Allah be please with him but due to our prophet Muhammad but that's doesn't mean what he did with ahle bait is right and I am Sunni.....and stop defending muawia and his son yazid both are guilty of killing ahle bait ...shame on u adnan I used to watch your debate but now I feel u becoming so biased against ahle bait and Ali .. shame on u
May Allah guide all those Muslims who support yazid ameen..
You are ignorant my brother 😂 have you heard the hadith of Prophet Muhammad about Muawiya? Adnan made an irrefutable point that Hassan gave bayah (which cannot be given to a munafiq) to Muawaiya, this bayah was prophesized and endorsed by Prophet pbuh and Allah himself. If Muawiya was a grave sinner whose party was inviting People to Hell, why would Allah, the most high, the most knowledgeable himself endorse it through the Prophet's mouth.
By saying people who were fighting with Muawiya in the battle against Hazrat Ali R.a. were people of hellfire then you're basically calling Aqil Ibn Abi Talib (brother of Ali) a man deserving of hellfire. These are all sahabas, you don't go around calling sahabas deserving of hell. If Muawiya was such a cursed guy who was inviting people to hellfire, why would he have the honourable job of being a scribe of the Qur'an. By your argument is Allah not more knowledgeable than you or me?
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj @FaisalKhan-md2tj first I never said he is going to hellfire or he will go to heaven because that is not my work that is work of Allah ...by looking Hadith which we found in most of authentic books of Hadith I am highlighting that mistakes or even u look in history it is quite obvious he appoints his son to next khalifa without consulting other and that's not khilafat if u are saying he love prophet Muhammad that why he is not following the khilafat system instead he is following pagan(roam, Persian) system of appointment of next khalifa ...
And not all Sahaba are equal and some of are traitor also how we know we know from this verse surah at tawbah Verse 101: "And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] among the people of Madinah. They have persisted in hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then they will be returned to a great punishment."
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj first of all Hasan was following Allah commands
Surah Al-Anfal (8:61): "And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing."
Hasan was going to fight muawaia but he remembers this verse so he stop and make a treaty but treaty happen with terms so what is the terms these are terms as long these terms are following treaty will be abide between these two but muawia broke these terms which is why Hussain fought very bravely and courageously which show prophet family love Allah and his commands so much that even they are less in numbers they are willing to fight till death....may Allah guide all our Muslim brothers and sisters ameen...
1. **Abdication of Caliphate:**
- Hasan agreed to relinquish his position as Caliph in favor of Muawiya, uniting the Muslim community under a single ruler.
2. **Protection and Safety:**
- Muawiya guaranteed the safety and protection of Hasan, his family, and his followers, respecting their lives, property, and honor.
3. **Avoidance of Revenge:**
- Muawiya promised not to seek revenge against any of Hasan's supporters, ensuring that no one who had sided with Hasan would be persecuted or harmed.
4. **Succession Consultation:**
- Muawiya agreed that he would not appoint a successor but would leave the matter of succession to a consultation (shura) among the Muslims, allowing the Muslim community to decide the next Caliph.
@@mubashshiralikhan253point still stands, Muaviya Ra is still a muslim and not kaffir like the shias say he is, because clearly anyone who hates Ahl e Bait is one, however the prophecy of Prophet Pbuh regarding Hasan Ra bringing two "muslim" groups negates any argument saying Muaviya Ra hated Ali Ra etc, because if he did Prophet pbuh would not call both sides muslim.
Also stop using aChatGPT.....
Why do we even fight about these things, their deeds are with Allah and he will deal with them accordingly. We should as Muslims be one ummah and care about our own deeds.
These people that hate muwiayah r.a need to watch saber mashhour, rami eissa and walid Ismael and they will love muwiayah not the liar engineer
Write R.A with Hazrat Muawya
@@areebsiddiqui8224 yep I agree he saved Islam from the Shia majoosi people that killed uthman R.A and tried to distort the Quran
@@areebsiddiqui8224Allah tumhe mouviyah ky sath qiyamt wale din aur hume Ali A.S ky sath kare say ameen
@@AwaisAfzal-yr9db ameen
Same argument will be made by those who support ali Hussain and hussain ra
They will say u love muwya ra
And u hate ali Hassan hussain ra ...
Muhammad bin Abubakkar was not Sahabi ,he was Munafiq ,which was also said by Hasan Al Basri(R.H). And Ayesha(R.A) also cursed his brother Muhammad Ibn Abubakkar and Allah accepted this ,and his death was one of the from worst death .
And there were no one Sahaba aginst the Caliphate of Uthman(R.A) ,bcz there was Prophecy in Musnad Ahmed which is Sahih Hadith ,where Prophet (PBUH)said to Uthman(RA) ,Allah will give you Caliphate and munafiq will be against your Caliphate ,but dont loose hope and Caliphate unless you come to me.Uthman(R.A) did whatever Prophet(PBUH)said to him.And Uthman(RA) was 3rd Rashidun Caliph , so accepting him and his words is Sunnah and rejecting him was by Khwarij who were Munafiq.
They keep presenting hadeeth of Ammar. That was before Hassan pledged to Muaviya. Hassan pledged to him how can he be a rebellious person in sharaih meaning? How can someone give rule of muslims to a "baaghi" literally. In Mustadrak al haakim there is hadeeth that the rebellious group that killed Ammar was khawarij not Muaviya and his men.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
And muvaviya said Ali a.s killed ammar. Because he brought ammar into war
@@AwaisAfzal-yr9db again. Are you even paying attention to what I said?
@@osamamanan2723 2812 hadees ka jawab diya hazrat muaviyah ny
@@mubarakisonline are oh jahil aisa koi nahi samjhta tum jaise aqal k andho ko sidhi si baat bhi samjh nahi aati toh isme samjhane wale ki kya galati hai..kyunki tum manna hi nahi cahte
Adnaan is very fond of engineer, he is basically personal with engineer because engineer said he only recently knew about adnaan. Now adnaan feels frustrated that how come he said that, while I'm so famous. His proof about engineer knew about him is that he was told by someone who claims to sit in the gathering of Engineer that he was discussed. These guys are doing dawah for what sake? Being famous. Bro adnaan, that's something you should ponder upon and correct yourself.
@@mominkhan6320 you're desperate student of engineer who is trying hard to defend his teacher, who has no manners and now you are gaining sympathy that adnan is getting personal with engineer LOL
Good to see Adnan rashid destroying engineer mirza
Why not anybody is afraid from to Hazrat Umar Hazrat Usman Hazrat Ali ….¿???.? 😢😢😢😮😮😢why only afraid from 2 Hazrat mafia why only one person is afraid early ones…. YoungBoy Show you everything but you say oh it’s true or not true I don’t know but you talking about is all is true why? Why like that you 😢😢😢. After what happened with the Ali sons All buddies killied ,,,,you understand who is and why is? Hazrat Hassan and Hazrat Hussain, what happened with him?
I am Sunni not blind follower of er ali
But seeing this I am 1000 % sure he will be destroyed by er ali without any doubt
This conflict has become the chicken and egg,both sides have good arguments,but ultimatly no final answer.
They don't even understand what Adnan has done. They really don't want to understand his point as they know once they understand that they are done so they decided to play dumb.
İmam As- Shafi'i said; "If I were to argue with one thousand knowledgeable people,I would surely win the argument.But if I were to argue with one fool,I would lose the argument".. So dont debate with a fool for anything.İt is not worth debating. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU ARE RIGHT.
Time to unfollow the channel.. that's not how Dawah is done.. malign a fellow brother to garner few views on his strength is plain hypocrisy. Sad that even brother Adnan had to use such tactics
Is muavia RA a fellow Muslim?
@@bashar4550 who is Muawiyah ? Have you tried to do any research ? Muhammad SAW said after 30 years of khulafa E rasheed there will be biting Monarchy , this is how prophet described his rule.
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
@@mubarakisonlineaur tum hazoor Ki ahadees ky inkari bnte ho
@@mubarakisonline that's what this type of Dawah does..random bullshit by blind followers..
be it Adnan or Engineer.. anyone who is not having proper Akhlaq is not on Sunnah
These both guys are unprofessional men who are not there to learn and who keep on jumping from topic to topic, for such men lemme argue about Ammar Ibn-e-Yasir R.A death, if His R.A death would make Muawia R.A a rebellious leader then Ali R.A would have definitely rose that point to justify Muawia R.A crime and claim hisself on right one which he never used death of Ammar R.A and that shows that Ali R.A knew about the rebellious group wasn’t Muawia R.A
The damage has been done. Now you will not hide behind your abu yazid.
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza ❤ The Best
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
One of the main narrator of this hadith is extreme shia (Khalid bin Mukhallad)
This is what i understand by this entire discussion:
I think the argument he was trying to make was "Was the khilafat of Yazeed a decision of Hazrat Muawaiya RA? If so, then by the same argument we have to follow Yazeed since Hazrat Muawiya's khilafat was endorsed by Hasan RA by Prophet SAWW by Allah."
This falls on its back since we know what happened during the rule of Yazeed.
Moreover, if we are to just follow the line of argument made by Adnan bhai (a very strong one indeed), we have to deal with the problem of other ahadiths which the two guys were talking about. IF we are to understand the argument and take it as a fact, then we have to disregard a chunk of SAHIH graded hadiths and call the ravis and narrators liars (Nauzubillah) cuz these narrations shouldn't exist cuz we know the rule was endorsed by Hasan RA by Prophet SAWW by Allah.
There isn't really another option or maybe I can't reason it atm. I get the reasoning and it is a strong one (the endorsement argument) but it quickly falls short by the chunk of hadiths the guys are quoting.
Allah knows best. May Allah guide us all to the right path Ameen.
The appointment of muaviya was endorsed
The appointment of Yazid was not endorsed
Simple
Peace treaty means to endorse the rule of Muawiyah , then when Muhammad SAW did peace treaty with Mushriks , he accepted them as correct? As Mr Adanan Rashid. , why did Muhammad SAW say that after 30 years of khulafa E Rashid , there will be biting Monarchy , prophet is saying Muawiyah rule is biting Monarchy , and Mr adnan is defending him !!!! what a joke
@@russelindia that's not peace treaty that's bayah
Huge difference between just a peace treaty and bayah
Btw for the sake of argument even if we agree that muaviya was the part of biting monarchy
Then who started the biting monarchy???
Hassan ra right??
By appointing muaviya as ruler
@@AbdulRahman-ci9rf i dont think you got the argument. The whole point of saying it is endorsed by Hasan RA is to say that Khalifa rashid wont pick a guy that will make bad or non shahriah decisions. Basically, no khalifa rashid will pick a man as ameer ul momineen to rule over muslims and to top it off Adnan bhai argued that it was endorsed by Allah. So, if we were to follow the chain of logic, the decisions made by someone chosen by Khalifa rashid will be in our best interest and one of those decisions was handing over the rule to his son. That's my point. That's what i dont understand. Cuz when presented by ahadith of Hazrat Muwaviya rule, Adnan bhai goes straight to this endorsement argument. That it was endorsed by Hasan RA which was prophesized by Prophet SAWW and ultimately endorsed by Allah. Do you follow the dilemma?
Engineer Mirza Junior Mongol k students saare khud ko Hassan R.A se zayada imaan wala aur samajhdar, bahadur aur hoshyaar aur os Situation, Hadeeso ko samajhne wala samajhtay hain.. . *Nauzubillah*
Jahalat ki hadd hai...
Here is the most authentic narration (From Sahee Muslim) to proving the point of Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho hate for Mola Ali Alaha Salam (due to hunger of power and worldly objectives)
Hadees # 6220 (international # 2404) Of Sahee Muslim.
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبَّادٍ - وَتَقَارَبَا فِي اللَّفْظِ - قَالَا: حَدَّثَنَا حَاتِمٌ وَهُوَ ابْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ - عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ مِسْمَارٍ، عَنْ عَامِرِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ أَبِي وَقَّاصٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: أَمَرَ مُعَاوِيَةُ بْنُ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ سَعْدًا فَقَالَ: مَا مَنَعَكَ أَنْ تَسُبَّ أَبَا التُّرَابِ؟ فَقَالَ: أَمَّا مَا ذَكَرْتُ ثَلَاثًا قَالَهُنَّ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَلَنْ أَسُبَّهُ، لَأَنْ تَكُونَ لِي وَاحِدَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ أَحَبُّ إِلَيَّ مِنْ حُمْرِ النَّعَمِ، سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ لَهُ، خَلَّفَهُ فِي بَعْضِ مَغَازِيهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ خَلَّفْتَنِي مَعَ النِّسَاءِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ؟ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى؟ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا نُبُوَّةَ بَعْدِي» وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ يَوْمَ خَيْبَرَ «لَأُعْطِيَنَّ الرَّايَةَ رَجُلًا يُحِبُّ اللهَ وَرَسُولَهُ، وَيُحِبُّهُ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ» قَالَ فَتَطَاوَلْنَا لَهَا فَقَالَ: «ادْعُوا لِي عَلِيًّا» فَأُتِيَ بِهِ أَرْمَدَ، فَبَصَقَ فِي عَيْنِهِ وَدَفَعَ الرَّايَةَ إِلَيْهِ، فَفَتَحَ اللهُ عَلَيْهِ، وَلَمَّا نَزَلَتْ هَذِهِ الْآيَةُ: {فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ} [آل عمران: 61] دَعَا رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلِيًّا وَفَاطِمَةَ وَحَسَنًا وَحُسَيْنًا فَقَالَ: «اللهُمَّ هَؤُلَاءِ أَهْلِي»
Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said:
What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) say about 'Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'Ali said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: Let us summon our children and your children. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family.
So Ustad Adnan please go through this and other authentic Ahadees without any biase to admit the fact that Moavia Razi ALLAH ho anho was mistaken Due to hunger of power and worldly objectives while mola Ali Alaha Salam was right and have more Taqwa.
Adnaan is praising dubai, saying its organized. Maybe he is praising the construction of dubai temple which was built by dubai rulers. Is he promoting polytheism? omg!
He's making a point of the fear of the leader only specifically stop bringing other irrelevant issues to the main point. We can praise the West for their justice system bi they are kuffar.
They are all pupet of Banu ammuya
There is lot of Hadith that already indicate the destructive role of banu ammuya
Hazrat Mavia was first king . He abolished the Kihlaft and against islamic law pointed own son as crown prince.
Rest is the history
And you are Popett of Munafiq Khwarij 😂
May Allah bless our brother Adnan Rashid, Barak Allah feekum akhi
May Allah humiliate the enemies of Sahabas
After seeing this i can say Adnan bahi will be destroyed in a debate with er ali bahi i am 100000% sure ...
Great “break down” Mr Adnan. If Banu Umaiyya had and public speaker to justify their atrocities, then you would have made to top. Justification of Banu Umaiyya is over, The damage has been done!
Through whole video shaikh Adnan is just defending Muawaiya RA, absence of exact proof does not prove someone 100% innocent,
Adnan bhai can you please give any reference from any authentic book/Imam who declared Hazard Muaviya r.a as khalifa e Rashid?
Adnan clearly can't stand Mirza Ali
He shouldn’t…he’s a layperson who cannot even recite Qur’an with tajeeed. Did you know Ali ra was annoyed that people were mispronouncing the Qur’an?
He will never learn,if he doesn't practice the art of listening, said Dr.Fincklestein(Norman), PhD
By the way I'm laughing at Adnan in the corner from Dubai. 😂😂😂
Sunan nisaai 3006 is zaeef because of Khalid bin makhlad...ibn Abu hatim says only reason for Khalid bin makhlad to be accepted is that when he narrates from the Ravi of madeena but in nisaai ,Khalid bin makhlad is narrating from the Ravi of kufa, imam bukhari took ahadees from him but the reason was those ahadees were also found with other saheeh isnaad too
Adnan i salute u i love u r great ALLAH gave u enough information those who r against ISLAM
If muawiah was legitimately behind qisaas then what made him assume caliphate from hassan when hassan was chosen as caliph through shura? If muawiah wasn't really running behind power and kingship then he could have discussed his deman. Ok, fine lets agree for sake of argument that Ali didn't do it so muawiah moved towards rebellion. His very action of demanding power from hasan is a proof that he had different intention. Moreover, he was made ameer not through shura. Ah, this shouldnt be discussed because we'll be labeled as 'raafdi' just like antisemitism rhetoric!!!
He shouldn't walk away from the conversation.
He should run.
He is not letting him say hadith from other books. LOL What a coward he is...
May Allah strengthen brother adnan... truly a pious knowledgeable person...🎉🎉🎉
Allah having the knowledge of the future outcome, already declared for all the sahaba “ رضي الله عنهم ورضوا عنه”
Now Engr his students and the shia are wasting their lives on a topic that neither Allah or his Messenger ﷺ asked them to investigate , nor will anyone of us be asked who was right on the day of Judgement. The devil has certainly deceived them.
You can destroy them with only one question "Aren't Allah and HIS messenger's enough for you?"
What about you, aren't Allah and messenger enough for you? Why do you need muawiyyah even after clear text criticising him. Prophet himself has told about him that "May Allah never fill his stomach (moawiyah's)
Adnan Rasheed is making qalla baaziyan here! He is denying ahadees.... His debates with Qadiya is are outstanding, but this is not his field, he does not know the history....
Simple point is
Opponents of First Caliph are called Khawarij/kaafirs
Opponents of second Caliph are called Khawarij/kaafirs
Opponents of third caliph are called khawarij/baaghis
But opponents of Ali A.S are R.A.... how this is possible....???
Level Adnan bhai ❤❤❤❤
Im amazed literally when Rasoolullah SAWW has stamped this act of Hassan RA that means no more arguments..still they have guts to stand against the hadeeth of Rasoolullah SAWW why cant u remain silent and move on as you are not going to answer about what had been happened in the past..