Coach 'Straight to the Point' Fixes My Elbow for Better Dart Shots
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- I get expert advice from Coach 'Straight to the Point' on improving my dart throw. Watch part of my Throw Analysis with my technique and make a crucial adjustment to my elbow position, which has already made a huge difference in my accuracy and consistency.
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Everybody have to find his own setup, nice to see you are thinking about darts play so complex. I started my journey with Daniel last week and cant wait to bring his advices into life by the dartboard. GL and keep going
Ah that is great to hear. Good luck with that and let me know how you are getting on. It is a long journey.
Your first darts were perfect your draw back and release was bang on
Cheers mate. Hoping to get more consistent with that!
Ive found out after buying 18 sets of darts since January that it really does make a difference, it can be very expensive finding out which one suits though
How do the Nastris fly for you in the air? you can see if a dart doesnt suit by the way it travels to the board and if they sometimes land at a weird angle
I started with 26g as from the research i done it seemed like most begginers start heavy as the darts fly straighter but then go down. Ive gone from 26 to 21
Ha wow that is some effort, fair play. I am most interested in seeing what weight works well, I have used 22g and now on 21g and these 24 and 25g that are arriving will hopefully help me know what weight I prefer. Should be a bit of fun also.
Nastris do not fly badly I just feel I don't have a huge amount of control and in the back of my mind I do wonder about the weight.
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 not sure if you're already in there but the darts sale and swap groups on Facebook could save you a fortune sadly I've only recently discovered them😭
It's all a learning curve😂
Best thing to do when trying to find the darts you really like and want to purchase, is to find a darts shop that lets you 'try before you buy' - they'll have a few dartboards up in their shop, you tell them which few you want to try and they'll let you try them for a short period. If you're lucky, the shopkeeper will know their stuff and watch how you interact with the dart and offer alternative sets that would likely suit you more than the ones you've been trialling. Obviously, it depends where you are in the country, but there's numerous of them around. Could save you (and anybody else thinking of switching without knowing what to switch to) a bunch of pennies overall lol
@@youtoobah Thanks for the advice, don't have any darts shops local to me, I've got another 4 sets coming today all Loxley couldn't resist half price darts in a.sale.😅
@@youtoobah yeah would save me a big hassle if I had one nearby!
Only just started playing darts, very good video and look forward to your videos with the new darts :).
Ah nice one! Congratulations on starting the journey. Not an easy one but its fun!
Great vid mate. I took up darts casually beginning of the year and got my own board in May. Hit my first 180 last week. Nice to see a beginner putting videos out, very relatable. I currently throw Harrows Boxer Bomb Anniversary edition 26g. Originally had a set of Target 22g but they just didnt fly right and always ended up at different angles in the board. 26g feels a lot more consistent. Great content, subscribed 👍🏻
Appreciate the message mate. Congratulations on the 180 it's a nice milestone to hit. Glad there are a few of us at this point of the journey. Cheers again.
After first 180 you will hit more mate. I hit my first 180 in my 3rd months and then I will hit more and more. (Now I'm in my 13th month) I recommend you practice a fake 180 or fake 3 bullseye it helped me for grouping. You will hit 120 and one of them went single 20 take it back and throw again until you group into 180.
@@inthemj99 nice advice mate I will give that a go! Cheers
It’s interesting seeing the variation in struggles from different players. I’ve been playing a similar length of time to you, I started playing with 21g darts and within a week or so decided they were far too light, I now play with (after much switching) the 24g Littler Gen 1 pixels, I think the strongest part of my throw is the wrist-flick follow through, however I think I’m very inconsistent in terms of the actual tightness of my fingers around the dart upon release, I find myself having to remind myself to lose all arm tension quite frequently.. as always really enjoyed the video. Looking forward to seeing what you think of the new darts, I think a heavier dart will help you a lot.
Yeah my wrist flick is pretty non existent, trying to work on that. Yeah I am interested to see how I get on, I think deep down I found my previous darts which were similar but 1g heavier just as good if not better. What are the pixels like? I have only heard good things.
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 they’re incredibly grippy darts the pixels.. which I’ve gotten used to over time and now actually enjoy the shape of them, they fly beautifully, would only recommend them to someone who likes a “straight-barrel” shape as they don’t change width at all. I don’t see myself changing from them being my main dart for a long long time. I use them with an intermediate no. 6 K-flex also if that’s of a relevance.
@@Shezation yeah it is actually. I always thought the shape and grip suited me. Will see how I get on with these next lot first. Thanks again. Helpful.
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 no problem. In particular I’ve heard a lot of praise for the Asp gen 2s so I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks for the videos pal, good luck.
@@Shezation yeah same that’s why I went for them. Hoping the grip is enough for me 🤞
Great video Samonite 😅, love your personality mate, keep up the good work and your averages will increase. When I started i was around the 45 mark. After 3 years I'm around 60-65, sometimes better on a good day then the odd bad day comes along, but that's what they're there for too keep you grounded. Keep positive 👍🏼🎯
Love these messages. Thanks mate. Great to see what is possible with hard work if you keep at it. Congratulations on your progress. Any advice?
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 good hard work to be honest Samson. Join a pub league team to get a bit of pressure and see what your throw is like under pressure. Try different practice games to change it up once in a while
@@ashleystone4266 cheers mate. All great advice.
You just need to find what works for you.. takes thousands of hours of practice to find what works and get good. You can’t cut corners, and everyone is different so each person will have different opinions on what you should do. Just enjoy practicing and eventually it will come together. Practice, practice, practice.
Cheers and I will!
Also try different things out.. when you find something that works pretty well, stick with it!
@@derekhughes3134I said the same to Sam the other day, keep tinkering trying different things
I do like Straight to the point but I feel like an online lesson can only do so much
Looking forward to the vid with your new darts .
Great vid again , so many variables in this sport . I found the slightest change can effect the consistency of the dart .
Yeah big time. They arrive today so will get something out by the weekend hopefully.
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 tried them out yet
@@markbradford864 yes had a go but will wait to make a judgment till after the weekend 😅
Good darts there! (At least until getting to 12 lol ;) ) I started with 21/22g darts like you and have been working my way heavier. I definitely felt more comfortable around 25g so hopefully you'll like the new darts.
Haha indeed. Thanks I’m looking forward to seeing if they suit. Should be good!
Hi Samson, this time just a short comment. It's funny, I also have the Asp Gen.2 darts since the Asp is also my favorite player :-) Those are great darts but as you already mention they are not too grippy, to me a 1-2 on a 5 scale. I also have the Rob Cross pixel darts 25 g, they are very good to me, fly very straight. Good luck tonight against the Dutch! Cheers Peter
Yeah I expected as much. I have heard great things about the Rob Cross set also. Might have to give them a go if I struggle with these! Fingers crossed for tonight too
I've gone through 5 sets of darts since I started playing again 2 months ago, (6 if you you include a 15 year old set )
I like a long thin barrel with good grip.
Was at a Rob Cross exhibition a few weeks ago, i got a set of his gen 2 at 25 grams, easily my favourite dart.
It is funny you say that as I was looking at those Rob Cross darts. They look great. The type of dart you like sounds very similar to me. I am a mid/front gripper, what are you?
@SamsonDoesDarts180 pretty much the same sort of throw. Been trying a few different holds but always revert to what I know.
They are a lovely dart, just glide through the air. Have a Scott Williams set as well, seen him at an exhibition but really not my style at all.
Got his and robs signed as well so I'll keep them. Also won a signed scott Williams shirt in the raffle so it was a great night
@@aarondelaney8227 that’s class mate. Enjoy the throwing!
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 right back at ya mate. See you at Q-School lol
@@aarondelaney8227 😂😂
Great video mate. Really interested to see how you get on with the heavier darts. The asp darts are slightly front heavy so I expect you’ll feel a difference in flight and how they land in the board. In a good way hopefully. Keep up the good work.
Yeah I’m desperate for them to arrive. I think something a lot heavier will be interesting to throw. I have a suspicion for the better but let’s see. Cheers for the message. Keep them coming.
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Yes, I can confirm that. The Asp darts fly a little different as they are a bit front loaded vs. a balanced dart.
@@peterremiger1102 came today. So far so good.
heavier dart = reaches board quicker :: lighter dart + specific types of setups = similar response to that of switching to heavier dart but retains the same barrel [either retaining lighter weight or by adding an extra 1 or 2 gram via setup] (ok, applicable to those who really like the feel and grip of their current dart... if you're not keen on the dart you're throwing already, then get some that you're very comfortable with).
Not saying anyone's "right" or "wrong"... each to their own and only be trialling different things can they know whether it works for them or not. I was making a general comment about what happens when switching to heavier barrels and that the same or very similar reaction/outcome could be achieved by switching the setup rather the actual dart barrels, meaning learning to throw with those new barrels and then trialling set-ups anyway to fine-tune things.
Interesting that, about tweaking the setup of a lighter dart can achieve a similar effect while maintaining the feel and grip that one is used to.
There's no right or wrong approach with a lot of this it seems-it’s all about personal preference and finding what works best through trial and error. Thanks for sharing.
What darts do you use?
@@SamsonDoesDarts180 Currently use 20g James Wade darts with Lstyle stem/flight combo. Before that, I had 24g Gary Anderson's. Only ever owned 4 sets of darts over the 25+ years I've played, one of which was a custom set made for my throw (which I unfortunately had stolen while at a competition). I'm not a superstar or anything lol, but I did use to coach for a handful of years. People mistakenly think getting new darts that are 2g or 3g heavier will fix consistency issues but it more likely is not the main issue. It could anything as simple as level of grip compared to style of gripping by the fingers, whether you throw with your wrist or your arm, the setup itself... many, many ways to evaluate the throw without purchasing lots of sets of darts.
I love that haha this is my elbow its part of my arm knowledge there 😀😃
I am always trying to educate :D
Bruh, the lack of follow through hurts my eyes. It's pretty much the single most important thing, so your decision to work on that later rather than sooner is just crazy. I saw a video of Phil Taylor giving advice to a non dart player (I think it was a famous footballer he was talking to) on how to throw a dart and Phil simply said lean forward and follow through. The guy then goes on to pin the double bull first dart. So yah, I always say the same thing too, "lean forward and follow through" as the most fundamental things about throwing a dart.
Yeah completely agree mate. I have seen that video with Taylor as well. The only reason I stopped working on it so much was because of the total inconsistency. Just a mess but I know I need to prioritise it sooner rather than later!
Yes, that has been my advice too to work on the follow-through. But everybody has to go at his/her own pace and changes, that´s fine. I am convinced that Samson will only improve in throw consistency once he implemented some kind of follow-through (which is not existing at the moment). To me most other elements look ok (the only other thing is indeed using your wrist to give sufficient power to the throw in every height you want/need). But it´s perfectly ok, everybody must have this self-decided process ( I really mean that seriously ). All will be good 🙂
@@peterremiger1102 it’s probably one of the only advantages Americans have in learning darts is that we grow up playing basketball and throwing baseballs. Both very wrist forward. My follow through looks just like I was shooting a basketball.
How are you finding your grip, Sam?
I have been playing around 12 weeks now, and I've found a grip that's comfortable for me.
I notice allot of the pros rest the dart on their thumb and have the thumb pointing towards them as they pull the dart back towards there face.
I find the very unatural and cant do this so i pinch the dart with my thumb and rest three fingers along the barrel.. i do wonder if pinching the dart with the thumb makes it harder to control the dart.
Hey bud. Grip has been the least of my problems so far. I started with two fingers and a thumb, simple grip and added my ring finger to the top of the point early on for stability and haven't looked back since. My thumb also points back on the draw back as you say.
from my limited understanding, grip is so personal, and different for many people it is difficult to suggest what is right and wrong. I would do what feels natural as you will be picking a dart up so many times try and play around but I wouldn't deviate away from what feels right.
Cheers Sam 👍@SamsonDoesDarts180
@@Parcomarco Any time
Got the same problem. My pullback is way to long and i hit my clavicle. But i just cant adjust to a shorter pullback😢
Yeah it feels so much better pulling back that far but I have been trying to reduce this very slowly and I am getting there very slowly. Even the attempt of improving each area we will improve as we are constantly feeding back to our body was works and what doesn’t. Might take a while but I’m optimistic.
Fantastic video
Thanks! 😃
TRy one thing .... Try standing up straight dont lean forward as you are doing all be it slightly..... and you will fell the difference . because as your leaning your elbow drops .. think about it and look at your vid... hope this helps
Cheers. It does help.
Hi mate, I’m a beginner too around your level. How are you measuring your average? Through 501 games or literally just scoring?
I do my average across my 501 games including doubles
You still pull back 2 far? Or am I mistaking?
Not mistaken at all 😅
The nastri darts are awful so well done on getting some Aspinall they are lovely darts 😅
I am more interested in something with more weight. Love the actual darts. Hit my first 180 with them so have some sentiment there
I think honestly you just need to play loads and relax and try out new grips and rhythm - you’re a beginner and you look like it because you’re so robotic and a bit slow and it doesn’t help that you’re grip of the dart seems to involve nearly all the fingers. I don’t mean this in disrespectful way btw 😂 I just think you need to stop over analysing and trying so hard because you’re too stiff. I think watching littler & smith and trying to emulate that in the long run would be better. I personally think being a flowing muscle memory player is much more fun and rewarding then trying to set the dart like a sniper.
Yeah, I am definitely not a tempo player like Smith. Would love to be. Makes it so easy.
You're still pulling back too far
By what straight to the point said anyway
1000% agree
Yeah okay, Phil Taylor. What works for one might not work for another. Luke Littler pulls back to the side of his ear.. seems to work alright for him. Just do what works. End of.
@@derekhughes3134 who are you upset at?
He said him self in the video that hes pulling back to far and is trying to stop. Then the next clip hes still pulling back too far. Relax darling
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