Ammo Can Campfire Battle: LAVABOX vs IGNIK FIRECAN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Folks, made this video,to,help you if you are trying to decide between either the LAVABOX AMMO CAN or the IGNIK FIRECAN for a portable campfire solution. The full review I did a on the LAVABOX can be found below!
Hope everyone has a safe Memorial weekend and see you next week on the next camping adventure!
Brian
LAVABOX REVIEW
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Thanks for the great review, Brian! We are a tiny company and these reviews really help. Thanks to everyone for the support.
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Hi. I used my friend lava box the past weekend. It was great but first time a lightening it my hand hair was gone. The after about 10 minutes the hose where it connects to lavabox got melted and actually slid off. I was not there and my wife said that the flame was coming out the hose. I managed to cut and clean the metal end cap and press it back on the hose. With allot of effort I got the hose back on the piece that connects to hose. Not sure why this happened but I think that connecting screw needs to be tight. I love the box but will buy one and home they change to the quick connect. Can it be changed with quick connect hose connector?
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I like the flame of the Lava Box. Both seem expensive, but I'd pay a little more for sourced and made in the USA. Lava Box!
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I questioned both until I meet a guy on the trail that used ceramic wood with the ignik. Hands down the nicer of the two. The side vents just help defuse the whole can look. It’s time lava box start stepping up with US made version.
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I think people need to keep in mind if a usa made product is going to be competitive with an imported product, then the usa product will always need to simpler or less refined. Remember by supporting US manufacturing you will make sure that we keep some of that capacity and innovation stateside, which is important since none of these product ideas are developed overseas, just copied/stolen later.
I added some pumice stones to my Ignik. Works great.
Great review. Before your I saw your review, I thought I'd get the Ignik FireCan. After the review, I went with the Lavabox for three reasons. 1. Bigger Flame/More Heat, 2. You can cook with it (with the over/under apparatus).(You can't with the Ignik), and 3. Made in USA/Not made in China.
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The diffrence is a the regulator in the hose. Just replace the hose with a higher setting adjuster valve
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Negative. I added a 20 PSI regulator and it doesn't make a difference. It's the quick connect attached to the Firecan that regulates how much propane is fed into the burner. If you drill that jet out you'll get double the flame output with the existing 5 psi regulator.
Thanks for another informative vid. I've got both. IMO though, I prefer the smaller, refined fire of the Ignik because in reality when will you ever need a 4-5 ft flame? The smaller flame still puts out a lot of heat, even more so when you add fire rocks or ceramic logs which give it a more campfire feel. Though as you say, its up to you. Aloha brother
Thank you!
Same here and same conclusion. Love to support a mom and pop but the lava box is more fiddley and puts insane/super sketchy amounts of heat directly onto the radiator hose. The external supply line on the ignik quick connect transfers nearly no heat to the hose.
Honestly if you are in an area where woodfires are banned but propane can be used, the Ignik would be the safer bet. IMO.
Thank you for your positive and insightful review of both! It made my decision a lot easier! I am going with the lava box 😃🔥
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The Ignik may be made of China. However, Ignik is out of Bainbridge WA, USA. They have a great Warranty program for the Ignik. They don’t claim lifetime warranty but it’s pretty close. For large fires I get the other guy. I have my Ignik and it’s great for groups of 2-4. The newer model I have can be used as a grill for cooking and it works great. Plus if you’re drinking and having a good time it’s easy to shut down or light up. The other guy looks to be more dangerous if there is wind and a fire ban and you’re in a state park. Love my Ignik so far!
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I made one for around $70 including hose with regulator.
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I was deciding between the two as well. Ultimately I got the Ignik Firecan. Namely because I got it for 50% off at REI for a total of $99. IMO at that price it couldn't be beat. Yes the Lavabox is a small business, made in the USA, probably built better and puts out a ton more BTU but it would have been over twice the price for was is essentially a novelty luxury item. I just couldn't justify the additional expense even though I wanted to support Lavabox. It didn't help that I wanted it for a trip and the Lavabox was OOS when I was looking.
I do think the Firecan has a few features which make it much more user friendly. The integrated feet, propane quick disconnect, and side holes radiate a little heat to your legs/feet. The flame on the Firecan itself is a bit mundane and sterile looking, again just flames coming out of a metal pipe. I added some ceramic wood logs from Amazon to help diffuse the flame a bit. It created a much more natural flame and the flame is diffused and larger because of it. I think that's my biggest con with the Firecan, they should have included lava rocks at that price. You can now purchase their own branded stones which is a more recent "accessory". IMO you need to get some form of lava rock or diffuser with the Firecan. At $99 the Firecan was a no brainer and I love the purchase at that price point.
Good choice for the price. Can’t beat $100 for the Ignik. I’ll need to look into finding some ceramic logs. I’ve only seen the large fireplace size logs.
did REI have a sale?
Thanks for this. Never heard of the Lava box before this. This put me over the top for the Ignik. It’s just the two of us, we don’t need to burn down a forest. Looks like everything could store within the Ignik box too, space is a premium for Fulltime RVers.
Glad I could help!
Great comparison video! Ty!
Thank ya😀
Excellent comparison review. I've decided I like the Ignik Firecan a llitle bit more over Lavabox. Plus I can get it on sale 20% OFF at REI.
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If that’s the minimum setting on the lava box I’d be worried that it’s not safe in dry California forests. The flame seems to touch the ground with wind, whereas the ignik sits lower in the can
Firecan for me all day, looks nicer, like the burner better, integrated feet, don’t have to buy accessories, IMO that is too much flame on the Lavabox, I’m mostly looking for ambience in the summer months, not heat, during cold months there is typically no burn bans so I would just do a wood fire instead. If you were going to roast marshmallows or hotdogs though the Firecan probably wouldn’t be a good choice as the flame is low and narrow. If you put ceramic logs or lava rocks in it the flame might be higher on it.
Thanks Eric! I’ll be using the Firecan this week on my next trip to really compare it. I’ve used the LAVABOX several times so want to give this Ignik a fair shake👍🏻
@@BrianWatersOutdoors hi great review! so whats the verdict?
Hi Camil. Honestly, it’s a toss up. They both have their pros and cons and they balance each other out. I use both now. The Lavabox for sure puts out more heat if that is what you need the most. The Ignik puts out a different type of flame that I think is just nicer looking.
Both are way to expensive for what they are. Especially the Lavabox. One man’s opinion.
It is just an ammo can, so they are charging a premium for what it is for sure.
Super helpful. I actually put my own quick connects on my lava box. But the bottom gets hot & the legs would be nice. That said I like the sturdiness of the lavabox. No rattles when driving around even with the lava rock in it.
We cooked kabobs on our lavabox a week ago or so and it did a great job & the kids to marshmallows on it without issue
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this was a really good video. Really shows the differences. I bought a Lavabox.
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I bought a Ignik. Brought it home, tried it out, and the rivets on the lid broke. I just ordered the lava box.
That’s no good!
Tough call. Like the made in USA. But like the built in legs and quick release and side vents as I’d guess they help widen the heat area. Would appreciate your thoughts after using the ignik on your trip this week. 2 questions are: 1. Does it put out sufficient heat to stay warm for 5-6 people in 40-50° weather? If not - what do you think are it’s limits? 2. Which would you pick?
It is a tough call. For sure though neither give off enough heat in my opinion for 5 people. Maybe 2 people if you are close enough. I tend to prefer the Lavabox over Ignik, but they really are both good options.
Very nice comparison video! Plus I love the Texas flag on the fence!
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Very helpful. Still a tough decision lol. Thank you!!
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Nice through review! If you're interested in reviewing an even more Compact Campfire reach out, I'd love to chat with you about Tripod Torch.
The Ignik I think also weight almost double the weight of the Lavabox
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i wonder what the Idnik would be like with 1 layer of lava rocks init
Nice comparison. Thanks for that.
Thanks George👍🏻
Thank you for this video. I was looking to purchase something like this for wimter camping. Did know where to look.
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show us the inside of the Lava Box so we see the difference
Hahaha. Wow! and now I’ll watch your lava box review.
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You had me at, "american made!"
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Thanks for comparing. Saw the Lava box at Overland Expo West. Great shirt too. F35 Demo Team?
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It's the LavaBox for me all day long..
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I have them both i like the ignik better
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If one cost 99.00 would that change your review. REI has the ignic for 99 free shipping.
I’m really impartial to both now. I use both and like both.
Which range bag is that? I’m getting the Lavabox ASAP. Thx for the vid.
Hey Mike. I added a link in the description for the range bag. I went through several different ones and this one was the perfect size and have room for the hose and accessories too.
Thank you…just purchased a khaki one through your affiliate.
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I like to enjoy my fire. So the IGNIK for me.
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Great video!
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Show us the Ignik with them LavaBox stones.
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Wow... that Lava box flame totally dangerous... You can't sit close to that thing on a windy cold ass day
That’s wide open on the Lavabox. I would never use it that way, just wanted to show the difference between the two is all when it’s fully open n
Thumbs up!!
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Weird question, but how does the sound compare on the lava box? My ignik is pretty noisy and smelly at mid to full blast.
They are both fairly “hissy”. I’d say the Lavabox might be a bit more loud, but nothing I noticed until you asked this😂
First time viewer...wondering if this is an outdoor channel or a Festool channel.
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Can’t you just poke bigger holes in the ignik to make a bigger flame?
Yes, drill out the jet in the quick-connect adaptor and it will double the flame.
How much propane does does the ignik use? Can you leave the lid attached,? & would it be safe in a cabin or shed?
It all depends on how much heat you want, but you can easily get a full weekend off if one 20lb tank. You cannot leave the lid on, and I wouldn’t recommend using this indoors either.
Bro good videos 📹
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Hi, Is firecan good enough for marshmallow?
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Propane and quick connect , no thank you, if u fk up and half ass that quick connect, you got a flame thrower 🤣😂🤣
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I would go with the one that is "Made in the USA" to support the American labor force rather than supporting the Chinese government IMO.
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Looks dope do you use a smoker?
Thanks! And, no. Not really on the smoker.
Hi Brian, does the lava box give off any kind of strong or mild odor while it burns? Lastly does it scorch/burn the ground below it and would you say it's safe to use on artificial turf and/or grass? Thank you!
It does not give off an odor, but the box does get hot. It would probably melt the artificial turf underneath.
Brian, thanks for the timely response. Based on your experience, even when using Lava Box with the optional shelf they provide, do you think it stil gets hot enough to possibly melt turf or scorch grass? Any suggestions on what to place underneath? What do you do when using it on grass?
With the shelf it will be fine, and should not hurt the grass. I use that shelf directly on top of grass outdoors and it has been fine.
@@BrianWatersOutdoors Excellent. Thanks again Brian!
I went Tacticool….made in California I think
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I bought the IGNIK Firecan last spring and just learned of the Lava Box. Can the LAVA Box over/under thingy fit on top of the IGNIK? I know IGNIK says you can't cook over it as it may cause damage but....
I don’t think so. The Ignik can seems to be a bit “thicker” and the over / under fits pretty tight on the Lavabox as it is already.
@@BrianWatersOutdoors thank you for the fast response, I appreciate it! Might you have any suggestions for something similar to put over the IGNIK?
Not something to put over the Firecan… but if you can get the Firecan Deluxe, that has the grill inside already. Probably sell the old Firecan?
That whole setup is 20 dollars to make.... They're selling it for 75-150?
I'll pass.
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You said it!!
No its not the ammo can alone is 20 bucks ...the regulator and hose is another 20 to 25 ... expanded metal for yhe inside another 30 at homw depot ...I can go on ..and then there's time and yes I've built my own
I'll happily pay for someone else to do the work.
@@gailoss5919how about $99? For that you get the ignik
More flame and more danger in the WRONG hands. I'd rather have the Ignik.
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Obvious choice
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ignik is junk.
How? Why do you think that?