The Hidden Area You've NEVER HEARD Of In Marvel's Spider-Man 2!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I uncover a hidden area on the Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Map that reveals that the city is much bigger than we originally thought it was!
This extended map that we can't access could prove we could be getting a bigger Map Extension in Insomniac's Marvel's Spider-Man 2 New Game Plus update or even in the first Marvel's Spider-Man 2 DLC or other extended games of the franchise such as the possible Marvel's Venom.
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queens resident here, and I can confirm that “stark expo” is actually the us open tennis courts held in flushing meadow park in queens, New York
I mean the tennis courts are a huge hint.
Lefrak City former for over 25 yrs can confirm
arthur ashe!!!
Cool
I was looking for this when the game came out, and I was very disappointed to see they didnt add that lol. Its like queens biggest landmark
I just assumed the out of bounds areas would be accessible with future DLC
Fair
@@thegreatacolyt1277Just a reminder.. we can figure it out now tomorrow!!
@@keelwawawooare you ready because I
Am!
@@keelwawawoo absolutely im so hyped
@@Yankois8 yes!
the creative director did say they had to cut a LOT of content
yeah it's most likely scrapped content and just background buildings but possible dlc area if that'll happen
instead we got mary jane missions
@@MondoCLAPSpretty sure we’ll see it in the future dlcs
No this plan for dlc add new place
miles w symboite?
4:59 - In an interview, the creative director said they took a while to think about how much of the city to give players to explore. I'm betting that they decided that they would close off part of the area by making it an offset as a detail from a distance. That way the buildings covered up areas with less or no detail. Besides, why open up a larger part of the map if plot-wise or activity-wise nothing is going to happen there? By doing so, they saved time and resources.
I'm sure it's mainly there to serve as that detail from the distance cuz the NPCs only roam around the few streets closest to the map border
I mean, they coulda put stuff there tho? Just cus there clearly isn't anything there now like remnants of a hunter base half finished doesn't mean they COULDNT have added something, its no surprise that it's barren, but if they had the time or whatever they coulda filled it out with stuff
@@SSlash nah they just needed to have a fluid transition from the playable area to the out of bounds area with no detail so a portion of the map left unfinished is the perfect solution or otherwise you'd have an harsh cut from fully detailed map to out of bounds and tihs time they didn't have the river as a definite separation
That’s what I was thinking too. Resource-wise and aesthetically, it makes more sense to drop a bunch of existing, prefabbed assets in a believable pattern at the edge of the playable area than to make something entirely new from scratch, so all the AI and collision and sounds are just along for the ride lol
I've been there! So many of the physics are in tact, some glitchy cars too. Spent a good 2 hours exploring. Figured it's just primed for dlc
the most odd part is that everything in the normal city is there just floating or needing to be fixed in place
“Size isn’t everything that matters” Bro just boosted my confidence by 50%😂
I'm glad I could help! :D
There is some thing I noticed, there is at least one location that is just removed from the map. An entire loading dock that is in Miles Moralez that is not in here. Did anyone else notice any other inconsistencies?
You can also use the floating chair glitch to hop over the invisible wall. Much easier than the train pushing you out
You can also find massive sand patches in the out of bounds past coney Island
Oh very nice to know
2:16 I think this is the island where we see kravens first scene could’ve been planned to be an explorable area but was left out of the map.
I think your right
Especially considering the amount of trees and how it looks jungle like
Yeah no that island is too small and it's just New York trees and not a genuine jungle, you can see kraven coming in south from Manhattan, he lived in the African veldt before heading to New York. Idk how you guys think he just right next to all this action and he wasn't spotted once in the first game or miles Morales
@@tylertalsma7794 this man is smart
@@tylertalsma7794 I’m referring to the area model they used for the cutscene so yeah I’m probably wrong about the explorable area but but they had to have used some type of model for it. I’m simply implying that this out of bounds area was the map model for the cutscene.
Maybe its cut content or content that will be finished for a later DLC?
The jungle-like area maybe is where the cutscene where Kraven and that hunter takes place? it kinda looks like it.
Did you hear that on March 7th, Marvel spider man 2 update.
yes I did! made a video on it earlier this week!
I won't lie, that's actually pretty dam interesting 🕷🤟🕸
It was probably something they wanted to use, but didn't have enough time to polish before having to release the game. They'll probably unlock it for a DLC, because I doubt the developers would have actually put in that much time and effort making everything functional in that area, just to not use it for anything.
I think the island with the vegetation was going to be used for the bossfight against kraven, it would have been better in my opinion
I hope they add that Stark Expo Arena into the DLC in the future.
I have a feeling that the forresty area was originally where venom or symbiote spiderman was to fight kraven
my theory about the outside of the map is like you know how theres the lizard chase scene? and other chases or swings in the city. Thats what those cities are for, basically just areas u can only access through missions
The only area that you specifically can't get back to is wherever the zoo is supposed to be where pete gets the symbiote for the first time, and sewers and underground sections of course too but thats to be expected
@@SSlash yes but those areas are actually not changed at all. it just teleports you to an area where the game will take place. like the lizard chase scene is on a different map instead of the one you normally swing through. you get to see those places but its not the same place where you were fightning . does that make sense?
@@SSlash thats false because you can find kravens tiger at the zoo whenever you beat the game I literally found it
That chase scene is near the Avengers tower i do believe, so I don't think it's out of bounds.
@@JackAdventures_ they recreate it tho thats why when u escape from the anartica part of the game you can see a duplicate of the city
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Thank you, I try my best :)
Did the same, saw some weird building covered by plants that looked like a scrapped mission
While being a cube by accident
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@@Woodyandbuzzworld6308 how does that relate to anything
My thoughts: Adding the new area for a "Silk" spinoff
And also, they loosely detail the left hand side of the map so I guess we will get the other side in SM3
I mean I'm ngl, while the north and south sides of the map are just the water, it shouldn't come as a surprise really that the closest things on the left and right are more detailed than stuff that is further away in the left and right, but what IS weird is how the stuff on the right side is grayed out on the map, you're able to get way closer to it than what you can see from the bridges side on the left but still
I was thinking they would just release everything else in spiderman 3 as well. Makes since they expanded upon the map in 2.
You can leave the map by using the flying chair glitch too. They didn't think you'd go that high so the barrier doesn't exist.
I feel like that jungle has something to do with the first bit of kraven when he kills that guy
I doubt it, the scene for that seemed deep in a jungle, this is more a forest in the map
The jungle is an island from irl called north brother island, it has been abandoned since the 60's and as of today it's illegal to set foot on the island (the island was a hospital for contagious diseases but became uninhabited due to a ship wreck that happened close and killed more than 1000 people)(that island also contained the fairly famous Typhoid Mary)
Thank you for showing this to us. im gonna try this out for myself
I think the new game plus update patched the train glitch. You now die when the train kicks you out of the map.
The map areas we can't reach by natural means, will most likely be unlocked in DLC's. I believe one of those will be Carnage, probably Silk too.
My guess is that since you can see the neighborhood from the distance they wanted it to be as detailed as the rest to not break immersion, that's why there's traffic and pedestrians and solid buildings.
Near the Queens area where you said the buildings don't exist, there's a road where you can walk on that also has traffic and pedestrians, and that's where they all backtrack to come back into the playable area.
I just assumed they were saving it for dlc content
I think this area is gonna be from a dlc if we get one
You can actually do it easier by using the chair glitch and getting so high, that you exceed the hight of the border and you can glide to the unplayable area
If Sony let them cook for as long as they needed we might’ve had these areas playable
They've been working on this game since 2019, it wasn't rushed, Sony gave insomniac as much time as they needed, stop making up this lie about insomniac rushing to finish this game, I'm sick of it
@@moritakaishida7963 you clearly don’t have a brain, a quick little TH-cam search for an interview will let you know they rushed to meet the release date Sony demanded from them
@@moritakaishida7963also who just cuts 90% of dialogue for venom and 60% of the third act out? Please learn how game development works 😭
@@L2sRush5 years is a very long time bruh.
@@DoubleKhoceSammich in game developpement 5 years isn't that much, there are games that are in developpement for more than 10 years, sure games like COD release after like 2-3 years but that's because either they use the same engine and mechanics as the previous game or they have been working on it for a while but they are subdivided in multiple teams.
With Marvel's Spider-Man 2 they weren't even sure if the first game would be a success or a disaster and they also worked on Miles Morales game beforehand as we can see by the fact Miles' moveset is basically the same. And most of Peter's mechanical arms thing was probably worked in afterwards when they realized that Miles and Peter wouldn't be on an equal level.
The DLC’s in March 7, 2024 will unlock that part of the map and the other part of the map will be locked unless we make a big update
The island that you visited first after leaving the map im pretty sure was the place where peter got the symbiote
I might make a more in depth video on that island to show yous what's there because I did manage to glitch in to one of the buildings and it looked like the arena where the Miles Vs Peter Vs Kraven boss fights happened
@@Cinogardlike specifically the version of that area with the symbiote shit all over the trees and stuff? Cus that main building with the bell and all is still in the main map, so idk why it'd be over there if not a different area, I'd be really curious to see if you get glitch out of the other zoo tho, where pete first gets the suit
@@SSlash no no not the whole area, I meant the inside
@@Cinogardyeah I went over there when I first got out of the map and saw structures that were from the mj part of that mission, it'd be cool to see what I missed tho
I don’t see any reason why all of this can’t be unlocked with some paid dlc, letting the missions in those stories have really unique feeling missions
Glad to see you back 👍
Me too! I missed yous ^^
Oh, man... this makes me *SUPER EXCITED* for this game to drop on *PC!!*
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I imagine the closest answer is that they ran out of time to finish the area, however knowing there is story DLC meant to be coming for SM2 then I reckon it’ll be fleshed into that somehow. Love that you’ve fleshed it all out though, it’s always cool to see content like this 👌🏻
Also off topic but has anyone said your voice sounds like the comedian Daniel Sloss? 😅
You can access the areas outside the playable map using the height glitch and glide.
I didn't know that 5 months ago 😢
If you're really good you can go in the air and spam triangle (web wings) and square (air tricks) simultaneously and repeatedly use the air abilities to constantly gain heights and escape the map. That's usually how I do it. Pro tip symbiote suits make this air ability method easier.
It's also nice because you can reach the islands behind the area that the mission with Yuri takes place in that you went to in the video but also glide into the other out of bounds area. (By the way the buildings on that island are fully collisioned the air ability method helps with exploring them better as you can gain height to get ontop of them. Also the models of the buildings seem to be from the console versionof web of Shadowsbut running in the Insomniac Spiderman 2 engine.)
Also you may be interested to know but the space college is the exact model from the ultimate Spiderman game. A lot of the out of bounds models that have collision in some areas are from old Spiderman games. Which makes sense as Insomniac did the same thing in the first game.
As all the bridges out of bounds in Insomniac's Spiderman 1 were actually from different games such as Spiderman 3, Spiderman 4 (unreleased game), the Amazing Spiderman 1 and 2 games, ultimate Spiderman and web of Shadows. Now of course they can't admit that for various reasons but i think it's neat that they use some models from older Spiderman games and revamp them a little because in a way it means a piece those games live as apart of their game.
One more thing the place you believed to be the "Stark expo" (it's actually the college comic Spiderman went to. The Stark expo was in the dome object next to the stadium.) actually has collision around it and those blue tennis courts are from Rami Spiderman 1 game, they also have collision and that stadium has secret tennis courts in the center of it. Honestly that area actually has collision in more places than you think including the baseball and soccer feilds. Though the dome has wonky collision with two collision boxes fighting each other.
The major island in the top right is north brother island, I’m not sure if south brother island is there or whatever the other islands are but yeah
Horizon Zero Dawn map should be 50 times bigger, so that's why there are a lot of free space in out of bounds area.
In Spider-Man 2 the same story. Let's just enjoy the main map.
That island could have been where we first saw kraven
I am not saying that it may never be used in dlc but some of the things you are saying aren't how games work. Alot of games have areas like this for testing different features. Also physics and swing points are usually at the asset prefab level and not just decided separately in regions. So for example you have a tree asset that you allow the player to swing from, you just duplicate that over and over again with that built in. This is why most of those asset do what you expect them to do because they already exist within the playable game world. Other things may have been cut for later content but the mere fact that the building do what you expect buildings to do is not hard evidence
I am very much aware of all this I just wanted it to seem more groundbreaking to emphasize the point that it could be getting added.
I think it’s possible that if this wasn’t in 2 they might reuse these assets for 3 and make this an extension of Brooklyn to make the map even a little bit bigger, but who knows I mean I think the map size is good for the next game too it’s just so big you know
Let’s hope there saving it for dlc
I think that area is used to reset some assets before they're recycled back into the game, like cars and people. I can't remember what game it was, but they used one of the in game buildings to reset assets over and over. This is most likely the case here
Part of what I think it is is just that Without this the transition to the low poly buildings would be very jarring. This doesn't look like cut content to me, just a quickly thrown together area that makes use of actual building models, car and pedestrian ai, and more to make the visual transition from the playable area to out of bounds look smooth
I agree with TheShaneGuy...seems like it's for future DLC.
That stark expo looked like star labs
Well, Spider-Man and Miles Morales but had a thorough game with each story going somewhere, whether it was a dlc or teaming up for some shenanigan in the end... I have a feeling Insomniac is doing the same here. I hate to be proved wrong, cuz I defended SQUARE ENIX the same way for the delays in Avengers but we all know how that turned out
I honestly hope with spider man 3 they expand the map even more
I think this location can take a place in new dlc's like witcher blood and vine.
It’s probably them saving stuff for dlc
Hm I doubt it. So- for starters I think sure MAYBE it was intended to be a playable area originally, but I don't think they kept it in as a DLC possibility for starters it's just not that big enough of an area to warrant such a thing, ultimately it's just more insignificant buildings to swing around there's no particular added charm like- it doesn't visually stand out from anything we've already got. And it wouldn't be a great precedent to set either so- I'd like the dream of it being DLC later just die now. Second (novice game dev here) likely what happened if it originally HAD been a planned area it was just left in for practicality there's no real reason to delete it so they just left it, it clearly looks unfinished with floating cars ect. And third which I think COULD be what's going on is it was built out and never intended to be playable they just wanted the added detail, and cars and people are procedurally generated so- no duh they'd still spawn there, this could explain why some are floating if the area wasn't created with this in mind yeah some wonky bugs would appear, also because of how assets work it's not shocking the different sound effects functions still work, you don't have to program each burrow/area that's not how this works guys. Basically if I had to guess people and cars spawn in people have a few randomly chosen personality patterns, the lights are coded to alternate or randomly change and the "actors" (cars, ect) adjust their behavior based on those results so again- that's why it would still function, but- totally possible it was intended to be an original part of the map, I'm just saying there's tools that could explain why it's so detailed even if that wasn't the case, interiors again are randomly generated. If I had to GUESS a lot of the buildings in-game are individual sort "stock" models that were sort of just placed and then tweaked manually. So in this case again- totally could have just been built for the added detail because of how close it is to the mainland and some of those NPC stuff is just- the result of what the game does normally, or like you said it had planned on being playable, but was scrapped. I think either way I doubt it'll become accessible through DLC.
Tbh the only real thing that I would say actually leads any credence to how it might've been cut, is how its even like grayed out on the map at all, I don't think they bothered even slightly doing that in SM1 or MM with the areas closest off the bridges at all, and they coulda just as easily have the filled in map just not detail any of that out but weirdly they did
2:33 I think this is the same area we see when we see kraven for the first time since he was in a jungle like this one
That was much more of a tropical jungle, this is just an overgrown forest
@@Cinogard maybe this was the base for that cutscene and then they rendered and added more details during the cutscene?
@@Parav786 perhaps
Whats funny is i found all of this but my dumbass thought everyone already knew about it
jokes on you, ive already got there, also the chair glitch is a lot easier to get out of the map with
This is used to make it so there isnt just a cutoff with those textures you can see if you go far out of bounds.
Yes, and no. collision wouldn't be there, neither would throwables or perch points. The easiest explanation is dlc or early work for Venom or spisey 3. The open world can easily be expanded and opened up with that, and they later detail further out od the map to make ot appear larger as this area does now.
@@dogcatcher7041I mean collision is a weird thing, some engines and the way things are built in general, if they threw higher quality assets especially copied or scrapped building models and what not, its prolly easier to just not remove the collision, or is just sorta automatically there for stuff like that, but when it gets to the 2D or really lower quality buildings, yeah those are different entirely
I’m actually playing the game looking for a video to listen too and i’m there right now as I write, love glitches in games.
I just spam the triangle button, hold square, and use the dash and jump to go out of bounds
2:20 that might be where they stored the zoo map from the mission where you get the symbiote
I've noticed the exact same thing - possibly space for dlc?
4:17 ther saveing this for DLC!
I hope so!
I'm pretty sure that the jungle area you found was were the Kraven introduction cutscene happened
Maybe this is going to be unlocked in dlc? Just a thought I’ve got no clue. I think since there’s so much life back there Insomniac could be planning for a whole new chunk of land to be unlocked in the dlc or in later updates.
Maybe dlc or this is where silk/Cindy Moon lives because in the credits that’s Rio’s boyfriends daughter AKA her soon to be stepdaughter
had feeling at the game the Devision, before the first DLC v came out you could glitch out the map and there was stuff like this npcs etc months later the first dlc made this area accassable
I’ve been outta bounce a lot in this game especially when I was high and bored and I found some cool areas
I'm trying to get out of the map, but it will not let me even with getting in front of the trains
@@actsofduane2406 do the glider glitch it still works
@@Dontcareidc I did not realize there was that kind of glitch.
@@actsofduane2406 it’s basically where you keep doing a front flip while spamming ur glider until ur launch boost fills up and you keep repeating the cycle and it gets you higher in higher there are tutorials on TH-cam about it👍🏼
It may be that this environment may unlock with DLC. That's the hopeful cope speaking.
My theory is that the OOB area will just be dlc
Sadly they've fixed the train glitch... does anyone know a different way to get out of bounds?
what?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Train glitch works for me.
You have to web zip to the tracks when the right as the train comes. You will glitch under the train.
If you do it right it will kick you out of the map
I tried this glitch and got over 30000 meters away from the furthest part of the map
It would be awesome if it got added in the DLC down the line
You forgot to visit lady liberty out of bounds 😮
I really did
Maybe we could go to the Tennis court during a mission in Queens in the DLC.
great video but the gameplay shown in the video looks extremely laggy and honestly bothers my eyes, but other than that great find
Yeah the video was filmed 5 months ago when the game first came out and I ran into so many problems with the file so I tried my best to make it look better but clearly it still shows
i was waiting the entire video for you to go to liberty island but you didnt
I'm so sorry 😭
All I know is they need to release Spider-Man games on Xbox.
maybe these places will be accessible in Spider Man 3
I think this area next to brooklyn would be released in a DLC or update for Marvel's Spider-Man 2 but I don't see any reason not to expand to that expo area and beyond in Marvel's Spider-Man 3
4:23 We might be able to go in this area in the next game
March 7th could maybe introduce this part of the map.
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That wooded area to the north with that big house is obviously the x-mansion
The “stark expo” is just a tennis stadium
Rip to this glitch
the explanation is not as interesting i believe. The other side of the map is a river and therefore does not require much details, however there isnt a large plan of water or something to create distance in between the outside of the map and the playable area. for that reason i believe that this area serves as a tampon in between the playable area of brooklyn and the out of bound part. as for the amount of detail you have to realize that most of these are what we call prefab in the industry. therefore each model like the fan for example comes with the wind sound by default.
2:57 Arthur Ashe!
Oh, my god. Okay: NORTH BOTHER ISLAND (containing the old smallpox hospital) and FLUSHING MEADOWS CORONA PARK. Is it that hard to look at a map? Yes the Stark Expo was there but it’s a real place and there aren’t “futuristic centres” They’re just poorly rendered sports stadiums. Moreover, the reused buildings will of course have the interior because they’re not literal interiors, they’re parallaxed onto the 2D assets of all of the buildings. They aren’t unique, they’re the product of the game’s code so when they reuse assets and paste them out of bounds, they’ll still contain that effect. I can let that go, whatever. But you really should look at a map for 2 minutes instead of talking out of your ass. You’re not discovering secrets of the expo, you’re just being lazy. There are no futuristic convention centres. Sorry if I’m coming off as harsh, but if you’re going to try and present facts to tens of thousands of people, you need to do even the slightest bit of research and not just make it up as you go along. If you don’t know: find out, don’t just invent answers.
DLC: Carnage
DLC: Black Cat
DLC: Chameleon
Maybe they want to leave some stuff out so we get new content on marvel’s venom or spiderman 3
How cool would it be if we not only got a bigger map through DLC but got to play Venom some more in open world? Hmmm? Hmmm? JS!
That big house where the trees are possibly could be where the X mansion will be the wolverine game is in the same universe as spidey but we haven’t seen the mansion yet
I managed to glitch inside of it but I lost the footage and it looked like the arena that the Miles Vs Peter Vs Kraven took place
you can get there normally lmao@@Cinogard
@@GT_Mr.C idk like I said I lost the footage of it and it was like 5 months ago but I remember it being the same shape
Considering how rushed this game is they'll probably bring it back in one of the three dlcs.
Cinogard original Spider-Man 2
Better be a bigger map at DLC
I hope it’s unlockable in dlc
The hidden areas might be for spiderman 3
Your a bit late a carnage dlc was leaked during the leaks and green goblin is going to be the villain of the third
This glitch is old you can infinity jump in the air with symbiote peter to go over the invisible wall😂
the video is old too, I recorded it when the game released and only uploading it now