Casemiro despite having ever played 1game at cb covered for Erik almost half the season, he was criticised,lost confidence and mocked. When finally cbs were available casemiro was dropped and not given a run in his position. Dropped for fa cup final for a guy who wasn't even worth 10mil in the eyes of the club and the manager. Cry me a river for that lying bully
That friend of ETH was abit ott I’d say you’d be alot more devastated if u were one of the 250 staff on a living wage that got sacked they didn’t get no 17 million
It’s really frustrating I wasn’t too happy watching them yesterday because it shows they threw erik under the bus even though I wanted him gone,but people went crazy over players suddenly caring enough to work 😭
I hope Ruud does well in the coming games, but if he does, I can see some idiots (ex-players included) crying for Ruud in and starting their agenda against Amorim, conveniently forgetting what happened to Ole when he was given a permanent deal. Ruud could be our manager at some point in future, but now is definitely too soon considering the club's various issues.
@@willdeal4367 yeah I do have reservations about his managerial ability as well. In any case, he would benefit from gaining experiences from lesser roles than a Manchester United manager before going for it, even if that's his dream job.
Wasn't surprised, and kind of expected actually that Mark will target Casemiro when we see a bounce in the result after ETH got sacked. Unless I remembered wrongly, last nite was the first time Casemiro and Ugarte played together. We had been saying playing alongside Ugarte will help elevate some of the defensive responsibility on Casemiro and we will likely see a better performance from him. Unfortunately we will never know if Casemiro could have played like last nite under ETH if the manager pairs the 2 midfielders together. Perhaps ETH could still be Utd's manager if he had done so much earlier...
When a manager comes out and say new players may not get in the team as quick as possible and its gonna take a long time tells you everything about what a manager doing.remember ugarte is not really eric ten haag signing.thats the main reason he has bin keeping him on the bench.he said it was not really his man but a collective.
The fact is EtH played Ugarte against Barnsley, he was always going to play today. Also Bayindir, everyone saying Ruud picked him etc. he played in the last cup game, EtH would’ve done the same. I agree that he hasn’t played Casemiro next to Ugarte, but I think EtH would’ve been forced to play him there if he was still in a job because Kobbie and Eriksen was out…….
Can’t believe people think Ruud did an excellent job when he literally admitted to just letting the players “have a go and express themselves” with basically no tactics.
That's all a manager needs to do, you can never force tactics to work in every situation, and that's what ETH did when he had just arrived; and btw you can't expect Ruud to come out clear and claim to having done anything different,that will outclass his sacked boss.
If Ruud wants to stay and learn the Amorim way while helping out as someone who has been there and knows the club, then I don't see a problem with that. He'd be perfect as the striker coach.
As long as Amorim shines up these players he'll be fine with this fanbase... But if he thinks the fans will stand for him being honest about their favorite players, he'll be shown the door just like ten Hag.
Mark has a Casimiro agenda now. He has been steadily improving long before this match .. Also the system of Ten Hag exposed him . Its valid . We concede the same type of goals week in and week out. Teams consistently broke on us!
I will back the new boss, but I really don't know the plan of INEOS in the way of thinking. We are getting a coach that doesn't really support the way of playing that Amorim stands for. He now plays with wingbacks, we don't really have them. What happens with our forward players (sell and buy new ones??). So, we will have to see how this goes. If you look at the list of managers that INEOS wanted: - Amorim - Tuchel - Terzić - Nagelsmann - Xavi Five different coaches based on playstyle. What is the playstyle INEOS stands for and does it match with the playstyle Manchester United stand for? It is very confusing. Is this a long-term of short-term plan? We will have to see.
Amorim coming in for the international break makes sense to me, has a good two weeks at carrington to get his feet under the table and get his ideas across to the players who aren't going away on national duty
There was talk last season that cass wasnt happy with the tactics, being left isolated too much and being made the scapegoat for bad team performances, then he gets dropped for the final, can see why he wouldnt have had the motivation. That the one thing i agreed with benny mcarthy, the manager wasnt very inspiring where it came to passion or coming out with a fighting spirit. Think he was too rigid in his system, players werent feeling like they had the freedom to play their own game like fegie used to give them.
Can't base anything on Ruud being in charge yesterday. The Leicester defence were ball watching allowing us to get chances. Whoever it was we put 7 past with ETH in charge did the same thing. Hopefully Ruud has a good showing against Chelsea. We would know more from that game than yesterday's.
Ruud showed sth ten hag never saw: you can be half decent with two truly defensive midfielders. Because of balance. He would not hsve been fired if he hadnt consistently ignored defensive midfielderd
Also, the energy around the club feels a lot better already after yesterday, nothing to party about but fuckin hell brighten up abit before we get smashed and you start gamming on again, can’t be pleased you mate😅😴
Using just go out there and express yourself to down ruudd is crazyy any new manger wouldve told rhe players to express themselves doesnt mean he didnt give then tactics
Your assessment of Casemiro is sophomoric at best, casemiro did not do anything different yesterday apart from Ugarte was there to take up the clean up role and he’s essentially a younger version of casemiro. And yes a bad manager can affect your mental state because you’re constantly thinking about what the manager wants versus being your best self on the pitch…
I’m intrigued to see how Amorim 🇵🇹 gets on and I am intrigued to see how he does these players however don’t fool me 🆕 manager bounce they turn it on like a tap 🚰 and play well suddenly
Give ruud the nice job. Simple. Let him learn. Or go to the championship and get ur pedigree. A huge reason xavi failed at Barca was because of his inexperience because before Barca he managed Al saad which Is the man city of qatr. Say ruud becomes a future manager of united let him get his training and it should not be like ole. Let's be honest had ole managed in the prem for 2 yrs he would have done a better job Atleast in recruitment. Has 10haag done his homework before joining the club he probably would still be managing and doing well. He trusted the wrong players. How did he know that Sancho is already a flop and he needed to buy a Antony. Like had he done his homework he would have waited a season and checked who down tools who give it all and then spend the 600. He never met trashford said that he going to make him cr7. Like don't blame trashy. Hague made mistakes and paid for it. Some things r in ur control. Some rnt. Had he developed more youth from the academy like Garner Fernandez and a few then he could have saved a lot to get his primary targets.
Some of these players will keep their levels high until they experience wat amorim is like in person. They decide when or not to light it up. Ridiculous
I think we stand a better chance against Chelsea and Leicester with Ruud. Give Amorim the international break to bed himself into the club, get some plans together and go from there
What’s the opinion of some fans and the media going to be if ruud wins all these games and then Amorim comes in and gets off to a bad start with some losses? People are gonna say ruud should have been given the job. Could undermine the start and set people against him from the start.
If you cant see why casemiro could play better last night and not before then you need to engage your brain. Maybe (definitely) casemiro is not very good at the defensive side of the game and he always likes to run forward which exposes us but last night he had ugarte covering his ass meaning we could see the good side of casemiro without the bad side being exposed. Its bloody simple
I can’t understand how he can blame the players?!? Yeah ok they made mistakes in games but Ten Hag was an awful manager with about as much charisma as a lamppost. I clung on for ages whilst others were saying he should go but it was inevitable in the end.
Ahhh fans like you who never want to put any blame on the players when they have been dogshit for years under several managers. lets just blame every manager that comes in instead of looking at the consistent problematic players
@ how can you presume to know so much about my opinions? Players have definitely been at fault in the past but I don’t believe that’s the case this time. When Mourinho went, players were definitely to blame but this time it’s on the manager. I genuinely wanted Ten Hag to be successful but it became apparent very early into this season that his ability to motivate the players or give coherent direction was non existent.
it's not on the manager to motivate players. do you think players like Keane, Scholes, Beckham etc needed motivation from SAF? No they motivated themselves for the love of the game and wanting to win trophies and be successful.
Mark how are Sporting getting a good deal? Losing a manager who's turned em around at this stage of the season..they aren't a club getting what they want as you put it..probably the least they deserve 😅
So many managers sacked and Rashford still here😢
And Maguire …and Shaw. Injuries and high salaries have saved them from being sold…un-flushable turds
ETH must have been fuming watching casimero last night
Must be fuming by all them tbf. I know i would be. Jim must be asking questions especially if they beat Chelsea at the weekend.
Casemiro despite having ever played 1game at cb covered for Erik almost half the season, he was criticised,lost confidence and mocked. When finally cbs were available casemiro was dropped and not given a run in his position. Dropped for fa cup final for a guy who wasn't even worth 10mil in the eyes of the club and the manager. Cry me a river for that lying bully
Case has been balling don’t let a couple errors against Liverpool fool you. Baller baller
He did score 12 goals under ETH though even his last game
Casemiro was the scapegoat, ETH died starting Rashford he punished Casemiro
That friend of ETH was abit ott I’d say you’d be alot more devastated if u were one of the 250 staff on a living wage that got sacked they didn’t get no 17 million
Seeing alot of people saying we are back now.... I can't do this again
You seriously believe people were serious when they said that ? Clearly they are just joking
@@Daequanburtonno not the casuals which are the largest fanbase
@@Daequanburton nope they aren't joking when they are cheering of happiness on their streams
It’s really frustrating I wasn’t too happy watching them yesterday because it shows they threw erik under the bus even though I wanted him gone,but people went crazy over players suddenly caring enough to work 😭
I hope Ruud does well in the coming games, but if he does, I can see some idiots (ex-players included) crying for Ruud in and starting their agenda against Amorim, conveniently forgetting what happened to Ole when he was given a permanent deal. Ruud could be our manager at some point in future, but now is definitely too soon considering the club's various issues.
@@brunokagawa6287 don’t forget he couldn’t even deal with the pressure at PSV, imagine at a club the magnitude of Man United.
@@willdeal4367 yeah I do have reservations about his managerial ability as well. In any case, he would benefit from gaining experiences from lesser roles than a Manchester United manager before going for it, even if that's his dream job.
Leicester made 9 changes too.
he mentioned that in the previous video
Wasn't surprised, and kind of expected actually that Mark will target Casemiro when we see a bounce in the result after ETH got sacked. Unless I remembered wrongly, last nite was the first time Casemiro and Ugarte played together. We had been saying playing alongside Ugarte will help elevate some of the defensive responsibility on Casemiro and we will likely see a better performance from him. Unfortunately we will never know if Casemiro could have played like last nite under ETH if the manager pairs the 2 midfielders together. Perhaps ETH could still be Utd's manager if he had done so much earlier...
When a manager comes out and say new players may not get in the team as quick as possible and its gonna take a long time tells you everything about what a manager doing.remember ugarte is not really eric ten haag signing.thats the main reason he has bin keeping him on the bench.he said it was not really his man but a collective.
The fact is EtH played Ugarte against Barnsley, he was always going to play today. Also Bayindir, everyone saying Ruud picked him etc. he played in the last cup game, EtH would’ve done the same. I agree that he hasn’t played Casemiro next to Ugarte, but I think EtH would’ve been forced to play him there if he was still in a job because Kobbie and Eriksen was out…….
Can’t believe people think Ruud did an excellent job when he literally admitted to just letting the players “have a go and express themselves” with basically no tactics.
He played a 4-2-3-1 a manager's job is to coach everything up until the attack that's what ruud did
Alex Ferguson was not a tactical manager either.
wrong use of the word literally btw
Ten Hag had no tactics either
That's all a manager needs to do, you can never force tactics to work in every situation, and that's what ETH did when he had just arrived; and btw you can't expect Ruud to come out clear and claim to having done anything different,that will outclass his sacked boss.
I understand why sporting did it ,it Basically 10 day until he comes in , and gives Sporting time since they losing all they coaches
We beat Leicester last night who had made 9 changes and they still caused us problems at times
At least we will finally get to enjoy Ugarte
If Ruud wants to stay and learn the Amorim way while helping out as someone who has been there and knows the club, then I don't see a problem with that. He'd be perfect as the striker coach.
Rashford was his usual self, not producing much. Some of the goals were also the usual moments FC.
Mark you have to be more understanding. Sporting should be able to get a chance to get another coach.
Being a United fan for the last 10 years is about enjoying the moment… forget the future, forever the past… just enjoy the moment…
There’s barely anything to enjoy mate
If u can name anything you've enjoyed recently it be much appreciated 🤣
@@IsItNow16 winning the fa cup against city was one to remember
@@zoncus078Yh and everyone still wanted ETH sacked then. We're so spoiled
@@BarryMckockinah it is what it is, we move on and support ruben amorim next
HEY MARK WHY DONT YOU GO AND SUPPORT THE CLUB TEN HAG GORS NEXT!
Casemiro did well cos it was a bad side and he was in a double pivot . That was an eth issue of leaving him by himself .
As long as Amorim shines up these players he'll be fine with this fanbase... But if he thinks the fans will stand for him being honest about their favorite players, he'll be shown the door just like ten Hag.
Some clueless fans still regret us selling Fred. 😂😂😂
i went yesterday and it was amazing to see the players actually put in a great show regardless of the manager situation , hopefully Amorim is the one
The fact Casemiro looked reborn last night disgusts me.👎
well said!
No midfield would have a chance in eth crappy system ffs!
I don’t care. I live in the moment. Win the game in front of us and I am happy.
😂
😂
Good old Mark...keeping it positive😉
We have to respect other clubs timeline too
Mark has a Casimiro agenda now. He has been steadily improving long before this match ..
Also the system of Ten Hag exposed him . Its valid . We concede the same type of goals week in and week out. Teams consistently broke on us!
Ans still did yesterday
We need to trust in Amorim and give him the tools to succeed it’s a new Era let go get behind him
You have to question why ETH didn’t play Ugarte as his energy is what we need
I will back the new boss, but I really don't know the plan of INEOS in the way of thinking.
We are getting a coach that doesn't really support the way of playing that Amorim stands for.
He now plays with wingbacks, we don't really have them. What happens with our forward players (sell and buy new ones??). So, we will have to see how this goes.
If you look at the list of managers that INEOS wanted:
- Amorim
- Tuchel
- Terzić
- Nagelsmann
- Xavi
Five different coaches based on playstyle.
What is the playstyle INEOS stands for and does it match with the playstyle Manchester United stand for? It is very confusing.
Is this a long-term of short-term plan? We will have to see.
That’s a great point
Marks fuming ten Haag got sacked 😂is hilarious
Chameleons!! Bruno, Casa, Rash, .. zero effect by Ruuud. He just happen to be the next ex player as interim.
I even saw Rashford doing a little bit of pressing. It was only a fleeting moment though 😂😂😂
Sporting still have to make arrangements for there own team that’s why there is an agreement
Amorim coming in for the international break makes sense to me, has a good two weeks at carrington to get his feet under the table and get his ideas across to the players who aren't going away on national duty
Have you seen the clip of talkSPORT of Alan Brazil saying they should keep RUUD on 😅
Yea all about an imotional mind set enit.same as ole and during the second season,it went sour base on the players shitty attitude.
Your opinion is clear through legends of the club under the bus
I like Casemiro playing as a number 8
Casemiro and Antony can now speak Portuguese with their manager… this can help get them back to form fast
There was talk last season that cass wasnt happy with the tactics, being left isolated too much and being made the scapegoat for bad team performances, then he gets dropped for the final, can see why he wouldnt have had the motivation. That the one thing i agreed with benny mcarthy, the manager wasnt very inspiring where it came to passion or coming out with a fighting spirit. Think he was too rigid in his system, players werent feeling like they had the freedom to play their own game like fegie used to give them.
there was literally a clause for 30 days... what are you talking about mark
Casemiro has never been finished i knew the setup was wrong,his was never mobile anyway so his legs are gone thing isn't that bad
Can't base anything on Ruud being in charge yesterday. The Leicester defence were ball watching allowing us to get chances. Whoever it was we put 7 past with ETH in charge did the same thing.
Hopefully Ruud has a good showing against Chelsea. We would know more from that game than yesterday's.
Ruud showed sth ten hag never saw: you can be half decent with two truly defensive midfielders. Because of balance. He would not hsve been fired if he hadnt consistently ignored defensive midfielderd
Also, the energy around the club feels a lot better already after yesterday, nothing to party about but fuckin hell brighten up abit before we get smashed and you start gamming on again, can’t be pleased you mate😅😴
Using just go out there and express yourself to down ruudd is crazyy any new manger wouldve told rhe players to express themselves doesnt mean he didnt give then tactics
Your assessment of Casemiro is sophomoric at best, casemiro did not do anything different yesterday apart from Ugarte was there to take up the clean up role and he’s essentially a younger version of casemiro. And yes a bad manager can affect your mental state because you’re constantly thinking about what the manager wants versus being your best self on the pitch…
I’m intrigued to see how Amorim 🇵🇹 gets on and I am intrigued to see how he does these players however don’t fool me 🆕 manager bounce they turn it on like a tap 🚰 and play well suddenly
Thats a lot of emojis
@@ruan5474 I know yeah lol
I agree with you on a lot but I think Ruud deserves some respect to his name. Talking about him like he is a wasteman buffoon.
Give ruud the nice job. Simple. Let him learn. Or go to the championship and get ur pedigree. A huge reason xavi failed at Barca was because of his inexperience because before Barca he managed Al saad which Is the man city of qatr. Say ruud becomes a future manager of united let him get his training and it should not be like ole. Let's be honest had ole managed in the prem for 2 yrs he would have done a better job Atleast in recruitment. Has 10haag done his homework before joining the club he probably would still be managing and doing well. He trusted the wrong players. How did he know that Sancho is already a flop and he needed to buy a Antony. Like had he done his homework he would have waited a season and checked who down tools who give it all and then spend the 600. He never met trashford said that he going to make him cr7. Like don't blame trashy. Hague made mistakes and paid for it. Some things r in ur control. Some rnt. Had he developed more youth from the academy like Garner Fernandez and a few then he could have saved a lot to get his primary targets.
The discreetness, speed, and brilliant insight of INEOS in getting the awesome Amorim must be applauded.
Some of these players will keep their levels high until they experience wat amorim is like in person. They decide when or not to light it up. Ridiculous
Amorim loses some games and people will be crying out loud for someone else...
THATS WHAT SHE SAID 😂😂😂
Yeah, bring evra back, we need a left Back 😊
Why do i have a feeling that the players will try for Ruud but wont for new manager.
I think we stand a better chance against Chelsea and Leicester with Ruud. Give Amorim the international break to bed himself into the club, get some plans together and go from there
These players can't be trusted 😢😢
Sporting is right. They are trying to do a smoth transition with the new coach which is the coach of sporting B.
TREBLE HERE WE COME
Mark sounds like he's sick United won.
Amorim must be a brave manger cause not many good would take a club in debt on
Inacio has a release clause though 4:26
What’s the opinion of some fans and the media going to be if ruud wins all these games and then Amorim comes in and gets off to a bad start with some losses? People are gonna say ruud should have been given the job. Could undermine the start and set people against him from the start.
Mark you're good but Beth is hotter than the sun!!😊
2.5 isn't short. Either he succeeds and we give him a larger contract on increased terms , or he is a flop and we are saving millions.
Maybe no VAR made the players play with freedom 😢
Oh Good. They've hired another guy to guard the beach shack and it's surfers from the Spanish Armada!
Why was Leicester playing their reserves?
If you cant see why casemiro could play better last night and not before then you need to engage your brain. Maybe (definitely) casemiro is not very good at the defensive side of the game and he always likes to run forward which exposes us but last night he had ugarte covering his ass meaning we could see the good side of casemiro without the bad side being exposed. Its bloody simple
The people saying McSauce forgot all about the laughing stock that was McFred it seems
If rashford and bruno play every game poor form or good form it's gonna be the same outcome i can't stand how this club is run now 😏
Why is Amorin not here sooner, cos we kept ETH too long
_In the Know's?_
*In the "No's!",* more like!
I can’t understand how he can blame the players?!? Yeah ok they made mistakes in games but Ten Hag was an awful manager with about as much charisma as a lamppost.
I clung on for ages whilst others were saying he should go but it was inevitable in the end.
Ahhh fans like you who never want to put any blame on the players when they have been dogshit for years under several managers.
lets just blame every manager that comes in instead of looking at the consistent problematic players
@ how can you presume to know so much about my opinions?
Players have definitely been at fault in the past but I don’t believe that’s the case this time. When Mourinho went, players were definitely to blame but this time it’s on the manager. I genuinely wanted Ten Hag to be successful but it became apparent very early into this season that his ability to motivate the players or give coherent direction was non existent.
it's not on the manager to motivate players. do you think players like Keane, Scholes, Beckham etc needed motivation from SAF? No they motivated themselves for the love of the game and wanting to win trophies and be successful.
ruud to sporting here we go 😂
Why on fantasy football does it say that sancho can't play against us? Thought we sold him?
Loan with ob to buy as far as I know
Can't believe your MODERATOR savage is on your payroll Mark... he's just a toxic NOB head.
Mark how are Sporting getting a good deal? Losing a manager who's turned em around at this stage of the season..they aren't a club getting what they want as you put it..probably the least they deserve 😅
Why shouldn't ruud stay, he would be a good striker coach. The way you talk about ruud disgrace.
Mark is ruud out. Tenhag sacking didn't go well with him,ruude ain't getting the job let ineos fix the club please.
Does Ruud have an ambition to be a coach himself? why is he wanting to stay
WHATS STRANGE? ITS NORMAL TO WORK NOTICE SO NOT TO DISRUPT A BUSINESS.
ar you realy think ETH watching ?
rashford is not.a left winger
He is nor even.a winger because he does not cross the ball.
Garnacho is not a winger eiither for the same reason.
As long lazy Rashford still there,they will sack this new cocah
After mistreating Mason Greenwood, that club was hit with a curse that will not be lifted in decades. It's not the Manager's fault.
Let's go
INEOS INNNNN FOREVER 😂😅
Mark two terrible shows today mate
Lets not forget aswel leicester are crap but good win
Rvn is not for us ooo
RASHFORD OUT
Prediction: ppl who were ten hag out will be amorim out if he has a poor start
Mark so bias
The players are a joke their play when their want to set of pricks who are the most selfish bunch who will never win the league
Waiting for official announcement
Rip man utd you wont be winning the league cup spurs will put 4 past you i can see a whopping,😄😄😄😄
Sporting can’t let their manager and coaches leave without time to replace them
We don't create chances for the.strikers because our "wingers" don't cross the ball.
Inacio has a 40m release clause so the club has no say on that also there striker does even tho it’s a lot he’s worth it