Why NO ONE Plays: Traveler (Aether/Lumine) | Genshin Impact
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome back to another episode of Why NO ONE Plays! I was about to talk about characters like Klee, Aloy, Lisa, Xinyan and such, until I realized almost no one plays Traveler. So I guess we're gonna be making an episode on Aether and Lumine! Also known collectively as the Traveler :D
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Yes yes I mispronounced Aloy I know it’s Ay-Loy >_>
Doesn't matter it's like when people pronounce diluc Die-luke
@@Pneuhmonia how is it pronounced? Genuinely curious
Geo traveller is just useless. His only purpose is to be a budget source of geoconstructs to gather geoculus`. The best of three so far is electro traveller. Also Itto is surprisingly good, as well as Noelle (she has enough to be called good in my opinion)
@@matryoshkaaa6926 Deeluke
@@VarsII insert „deez nuts“ joke
Having to level up each Traveler‘s talents is such a big hurdle.
I don‘t get why they didn‘t at least make it so their basic attack transferred between elements. That doesn‘t even make sense with the in-game lore. It‘s not like the Traveller has to learn how to use the sword again when they get another element!
I hope some day they refund you the Material and make all Traveler lvl equal across the board...
So true
RIGHT! Like I understand the elemental skill and burst since we have to learn these new elements, but we already know how to use the sword why do we have to start all over again for the sword talent.
because for the sword every few hits does elemental damage (at least for geo)
Not to mention you have to use 3 talent book materials for each elements, every talent level up uses different books like mhy why
Probably the most broken thing they could give the Traveler is the ability to switch between elements on field.
But it would make them actually usable... And still, they wouldn't do as much damage as Ganyu, per se.
@@nickdagr8wiz Currently we got about 3 elements to switch between.
It won't make them OP but it will make them a very Flexible Support.
i don't think they will ever do that, but i it would be cool that they let you choose which elemental hability and burst we use (example, use elemental hability of electro and burst of anemo)
@@Aibadenshi With the current elements, the Traveler could be nearly self sufficient; crit boost, area of effect damage, crowd control, and battery all for themselves.
instead of being able to switch elements, how about just having traveler occupy more party slots with his different versions? later on when we get a 4th element, we can have traveler occupy all 4 party slots then.
"Free characters are universally weak"
Entire Genshin community: *laughs manically in Xiangling*
*laughs in diona*
yep
@@yukk9481 well you could get her in one event so she basically was
*Laughs in Keya and Lisa*
@@yukk9481 if we count event given characters, yes
As an Aether Main, There's so much potential with the travellers as characters. I wish they'd give those who DO choose to use them options
I prefer to use Lumine because it makes sense to use her to go around doing quests and all. However since we can only have four characters in a party, I find that I have to constantly switch her out with Barbra because as weak as Barbra is, at least she heals. Lumine has nothing going for her other than she’s the mc. That’s literally the only good thing about her. And since I have Keqing and Xiao, there’s really no space for her. Which makes me feel sad and quite guilty.
@@Sara-ik5po You can use some other healer instead of Barbara like Qiqi but if you don't have one use Noelle for healing. She is one of the best healers.
@@nigamrockstar7585 yes I have the function of having the HP regenerate while the shield is on. I’m in the process of raising her.
They don't like u to have a good character at the start. What if u don't pull for any other characters if u got Ur aether/lumine as a strong main character?
Your true tho
I might be one of the few who doesn't treat Traveler as a self insert. They're their own character, and they honestly have a lot of personality to them, it's just a shame it's almost all text. I imagine Traveler would be a lot more appealing to people if their dialogue was voiced more too.
Wish Traveler was better because they're my favourite character :(
I wholeheartedly agree.
I wish there's a different character who is the self-insert that also makes sense lorewise
@@skrrtskrrt2410 That wouldn't work though as the Traveler is the main character, they can't have another main character to put in cut scenes instead. They plan the cut scenes around the traveler. It's too late to introduce a third main character choice as most players will have completed most of the game.
right? like i've said this countless times before but this whole silent protag self insert doesnt work BECAUSE THEY GAVE THE TRAVELLER THEIR OWN PERSONALITY. if they were just a cardboard cutout we could just shove our face into then it wouldnt be as bad but theyre playing a middle ground and it doesnt work. imagine having the traveller speak so little times you remember every single one because it's just that astounding. groundbreaking even. imo silent protags only work in stuff like otome games.
the only way i can think of to really solve this problem is to have a voice pack available for the traveller in all languages in the 'other' section in settings. people who dont want traveller to talk could just not download it and those who do can and enjoy an actual protagonist.
I honestly prefer Aether./Lumine as their own character rather than someone we can project ourselves onto. I think their designs are cool and original too, they have an interesting story behind them... I wish they fully committed to making them original characters and gave them more voicelines.
(i'm an Aether main btw & love him)
Traveller is literally the saying "jack of all trades, master of none"
But will mostly be better then-eh...okay no you're right
But a jack of all trades is better than a master of one
@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 In this case all of their trades are way too jacked to justify the quote tho. Context matters.
The full phrase is “a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.” It was a compliment.
That's more Jean
It would probably be a bit OP, but if there was some way to switch elements mid fight, like in the cutscenes, I think traveler could keep the weaker abilities but still stay strong, because of the variety of reactions they could proc/enable. It would also make them wayyyyyyyyy more fun, and actually give them a really high skill ceiling and encourage players to pick them back up. It would also fix having to change the artifact set for each variation and force players to choose a set that fits their playstyle/preferred element best.
Who cares about OP at this point I’m down if they’re given the ability to change elements instantaneously and even if they use all of them at once
Would be nice if like we could at least replace a Party member with the other element traveller is using
We already switch elements mid fight. That’s the point of the game LMAO
I have an idea. We rework them and I might comeback to this to make a few adjustments.
Lvl90 (without artifacts)
HP: 25,000
Attack: 5000
Defense: 5000
Elemental Mastery: 2500
Crit Rate: 100%
Crit DMG: 750%
Elemental DMG: 175%
Elemental Res: 95%
Physical DMG: 150%
Physical Res 95%
Healing Bonus: 100%
Energy Recharge 500%
Shield Strength: 250%
Elemental Skill Cooldown: 4-12seconds
Elemental Burst Cooldown: 12-20 seconds
Energy Cost: 40
A button above the elemental skill can be used to stop time and change the Traveler’s element via a wheel system and after pressing an element the Traveler will switch to that element and this won’t have a cooldown. There’s also a button the centre of the wheel that once charged by charging all the elemental bursts can be pressed and can allow the Traveler to use multiple elements simultaneously.
All Talents percentage are summed up and are shared since they gonna use all of the elements. Additionally the Traveler is gonna have a talent that creates wave slashes for each element and includes a physical wave slash as well and does the same amount of damage as their attacks. A star mark will applied on the enemies each time the enemy is hit by the traveler’s attacks including elemental skill and elemental burst as well as their wave slashes, it will deal a 10-25m wide AOE elemental and physical damage which also includes the elemental reactions.
For their new elemental skills:
Anemo: with this element resistances and immunities are both shredded down to zero and ignored .
-Elemental Skill: Charges up a violent wind tunnel that deals Anemo and Swirl damage and expands an entire arena and pulls all enemies except for the bosses and then when it’s unleashed it’s final phase it pulls all enemy types except bosses to the centre and can be aimed which will be fired at a maximum distance of 5-10m away from the traveler’s current position and does rapid swirl damage and then explodes after a few seconds dealing Anemo and Swirl Damage. Elemental Burst: Creates a massive Tornado with unfathomable speed with a much stronger suction power and swirl damage speed rate and lifts the enemies off the ground just enough for them to be in the air and be attacked by all melee characters and launches all of the enemies high up in the air after the duration is finished which will deal additional Anemo and swirl damage and increases their fall damage drastically.
Geo: Shreds and ignores enemies defence
-Elemental Skill: Summons four enormous Geo spires from the sky which is surrounded by a Geo Shield both of which scales up to 2500% of the Traveler’s HP with high resistance to Physical and Geo and if another element that crystallises with the geo shield from both the party members including the ones not on the field but also attacks from the enemies and deals a 20m wide AOE Geo damage which shreds the enemies defence but act as one Geo structure that can fit all of the other Geo constructs no matter what and creates quake effect that does additional and rapidly repeating AOE Geo damage with a 25m wide circle and constantly shreds defence, Holding the elemental skill will also allow the Traveler to aim where to summon the Geo Spires and they can be climbed onto and be placed anywhere however enemies cannot end up on the top and the geo spires can stack around each other if one is summoned onto an existing one until it creates a perfect circle. Elemental Burst: after unleashing a huge amount of Geo energy into the ground causing an Earthquake it will deal a rapid repeated amount of AOE Geo damage with a 100m wide circle and the burst will also synergise incredibly well with the Geo stalagmites as they will also cause an Earthquake just as powerful as the burst while also creating a wall of stalagmites and completely destroys the enemies’ defence.
Electro: This Element is based off of Energy Recharge.
-Elemental Skill: tapping the elemental skill will engulf all of the opponent’s on the field with a flurry of bolt slashes dealing electro damage enemies hit by the elemental skill will drop a dragon crest magatama which is worth 15 energy and this could be used repeatedly if the elemental skill button is used and timed right. Holding the Elemental skill will slow time to a halt and unleash an omnidirectional attack in the form of a few dozen bolt slashes that will deal double the damage and will drop double the energy worth of dragon crest magatama but at the cost of an increased cool-down. Elemental Burst: As the sky becomes darker than night the Traveler unleashes thundering might and strikes down all opponents and knocks them up in the air and relentlessly strikes the opponents while knocking them back and then a final more powerful strike will hit all of the enemies after the burst’s duration, after unleashing the burst the Traveler’s movement speed, attack speed and charged attack speed is increased drastically and now the elemental skill will deal hextuple the damage and will be constantly generating elemental energy for the entire party and all party members’ Electro Damage and Crit DMG will be drastically increased and the cool-down will be erased until the burst’s duration ends.
All elements simultaneously: The Traveler unleashes their full potential and uses all the elements they have acquired simultaneously
The elemental skill and element burst button will then have same wheel system is and you can choose which element skill and the same goes for the elemental burst button
Final Burst: after fully charging their ultimate burst and unleashing their full power the Traveler summons all the party members and they all use their bursts at once with the Traveler unleashing a more cataclysmic version of their burst starting from Anemo, Geo, Electro and eventually in the future; Dendro, Hydro, Pyro and Cryo.
Talent lvl1-10:
Normal Attack:
Attack 1: 100% - 200%
Attack 2: 125% - 250%
Attack 3: 150% - 300%
Attack 4: 175% - 350%
Attack 5: 200% - 500%
Attack 6: 225% - 450%
Attack 7: 250% - 500%
Charged Attack: 500%+500% - 1000%+1000%
Elemental Skill: 500%-1000%
Elemental Burst: 1000%-5000%
Or they could at least do all that but a little more tame.
Things I’d also like to point out:
-The Traveler will get a 5* burst animation like the others.
-The Traveler shares their stats and combines them with their other party members and the total sum would become all the party members stats.
-The Geo Spires will have the Geo Insignia at the centre of them seem as if they have been formed from the corners of the insignia.
-The Star Mark is like Childe’s Riptide and Vergil’s Judgment Cut but with all the elements the Traveler has acquired and also deals physical damage and scales off of 100% of all the stats including elemental mastery.
-They also will be able to use all weapon types and can use two types of weapons at once (like using a sword and then switching to bow) and this can be done by using a button next to the attack button, the weapons also add on to the Traveler’s stats.
-If the Traveler is on the party all resonances will be activated and possibly if the twins reunite and the twin you didn’t select can becomes a member of your party, adding them will drastically increase the resonances’ effects or if the twin you didn’t select perishes most likely at the hands of the twin you selected, that twin would most likely pass on their power to the twin you selected and create the same effect.
-If there’s only one enemy in the area the Anemo Traveler’s Elemental Burst Tornado will quickly follow them and slow the enemies down until they’re in the centre of the Tornado.
-The Elemental Burst duration for all elements the Traveler has acquired will be 1-5 minutes
-The energy accumulation for the Traveler’s burst is shared for all the elements but the bursts can be activated separately/individually
-Additional Crit Rate above 100% will be converted to Crit DMG.
-Should there ever be an option for sword users to dual wield with two swords, my buffed Traveler would basically have double the performance.
-Their artifacts will be unique to them and can only be equipped by them and they’ll be 5* artifacts and will have every single main stat for each one combined and be multiplied by 5 but no substat as there is no need for a artifact with all stats.
The thing is that you’ll have to invest a LOT on MC’s talents if you really want to play them. Even IV you only want to specialize on 2 elements (let’s say cryo and pyro) you’ll have to level up 2 CHARACTERS worth of talents.
I think you should just have more materials needed to level up MC’s talents than the normal character but keep the upgrades between elements.
When Dendro Traveller became meta, the Travler mains cried tears of joy
But the dendro traveller might get overcrept by other dendro units
@@Joodstudios Nah, it's already 3.2 and people are still using Dendro Traveler as well as Nahida, some teams even have them both.
They're better than collei in all honesty
People who couldn’t roll for nahida to traveller:
How’s my favourite character?
@@lum3516 yeah I made a really good rotation using dendro aether that can eigher deal half or quarter health of a boss
The traveler should get at least a stats upgrade for each element they unlock. It won't make them broken, but it gives some sense of getting stronger.
that plus a passive that stays on regardless of element would be good
Yeah....the skill scalings aren't even that bad, but the stats are so abysmal.
Also sword talents carry over elements pleaseeee
Traveler buffs:
Anemo - Make the tornado stationnary, or at least way slower.
Geo - make their geo constructs low hp, breakable, and dealing aoe damage when broke.
Electro - Reduce the skill cooldown a lot.
The Electro buff does exist only switching the characters
u can actually deal damage with the geo construct when broken. u can put one infront of the wolf boss charge, and itll deal dmg. it also works with the ruin guard spin attack and eye of the storm charge.
Electro one is made to be a battery. If you want to "fix" the skill cooldown just give them sacrifice sword.
Geo is the only that can be a dps, you don't want to reduce the construct hp since they're pretty useful if you know where to put them.
And the anemo trav, well it's mainly to control the mazes, take care little enemies so you can focus damage on the big one with your dps.
Each traveler has their utility, thing is notice the strong points.
You can also make the tornado follow the closest enemy
Geo boulders from the Traveller DO deal a small AoE damage when they break. And if you place the boulder almost in the center of the ult, the constructs resonate with each other, grinding mobs' HP. Among the elements, Geo is where the Traveller shines the most. ;) ( and if you have Zhongli, a pillar, a boulder, Traveller Q, sit back and relax watching the enemies being staggered losing ton of HP per tick).
I honestly like Aether‘s design and the few glimpses at his personality that we can get from dialogue with paimon and voicelines. I personally wish they got rid of the self insert MC trope and built him/Lumine up as a real character. I wanna know more about their backstory, their relationship with their sibling, their world, etc. I mean I play video games to escape my own reality, not to insert myself into the game. If I wanted to do that I would create my own Sim and create whatever world I would wanna play in. But this game has its own lore and characters, I don‘t wanna be a part of it. I want to explore this world as Äther but I want to get to know him better
Idk the point of the game is to learn about as you go, referenced in the beginning of the game how you don't remember what happened, and would the story be that good if you knew everything that happened and just looked for your sister? I like the aspect of learning about the character as we go and I'm sure we're obviously gonna get more as we go along. I do agree that him being boring is kinda lame and wish there was more options for diplogue during the selections of voiceless etc, but I personally don't mind.
@@noahbeyer1141 I agree with that, I like that aspect of the game too. I just feel like we could get some more, maybe not more backstory but more about Traveller now and I really hope everything will be explained at the end
exactly!
I hope we'll learn more about traveler as the story progresses and a glider/skin designed for twins would be awesome as well.
agreed. im pretty greatful for the voicelines theres new ones for every city it seems and the twins seem to be distinctly different from eachother rather than copy paste which is great! i chose aether and i like the cuteness n softness he seems to show in his voicelines and i wish we cld hear him talk more. theres no way its tht hard to have the voice actors act the lines we choose right :/ paimon does it. i wld love less of her talking and more of the traveler talking. its their story after all, not paimons
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. oh really? I didn‘t know they actually have different personalities, that‘s really cool!
I keep Lumine as the first character in every party. Just feels wrong to walk around without her for some reason. Electro Traveler has become an indispensable support element for me... Elemental bursts go brr :3
Same feeling
same, idk why but I can't imagine her not being in my team
Same it feels like watching an anime with no protagonist
@@starryskies0EXACTLY
@@starryskies0or the walking dead without rick grimes
i always use the traveler when doing story quests, because it just feels weird having other character and the traveler just popping up out of nowhere when interacting
Actually this make a little sense to me... i maybe will do that when the next story related content is add
I also done that, its feel really weird if traveler is not there, which also make me I quite invest in traveler
I do that to, also build her as a phys dps so i dont have to refarm artifacts with child for his passive upgrade.....imagine childe as support.....
how F2P they are forced To use Him whether they WANT or Not!!
lol me too. it feels so awkward specially on early playthrough. I approached Amber as Amber, the character then automatically switches to traveler. Although it felt nice not talking to Amber as Amber it's still kinda weird to me when going near her without switching to traveler first.
I might as well get used to that soon though cause I think I moved a little fast that my traveler is not dealing enough damage anymore so I gotta change to characters that has an actual help.
If I could change only one thing, it’s the split talent leveling. It is by far the worst offender of the Traveler’s issues. Second would be adding an option to switch elements out of combat. Maybe it can be done with a gadget that has no restriction on the number of times it can be used. Maybe you can get a component as part of repairing an Archon statue to a certain level, completing the region Archon quest, or reaching a certain reputation level so there’s some way to earn it. You can combine it with the base gadget so you have another element to change to
Make it like the food gadget and be able to switch between your current active element to another with a button. Maybe set a preferred element out of combat, and during combat you can switch between the two with Z.
Maybe it could be like interacting with the extra Anemo/geo/electro culus
@@martin_fn22 oh that's a great idea. They're like a piece of the Statues' power that we carry with us, so it would be perfect
@@martin_fn22 Personally, I’m imagining they’ll be used to open a door to Celestia or something. Or maybe to craft into some end-game-gadget, but I can see your suggestion as a possibility
i think it makes sense for the E and Q to be leveled seperately, but why the hell does the traveler need to relearn their autoattacks every time they get a new element???
I think the traveler will get a huge buff when we get pyro because that seems to be Mihoyo's favorite offensive element. Oooooor if we get some kind of gadget to switch elements on the fly.
But that's almost in the end if the game ... there's no guarantee game will continue that far and so we will just stay with undeveloped MC for the majority of the game
Tell that to xinyan and Thoma
Hydro Traveller seems nice every Hydro characters so far are really strong and useful
@@pjenk201 traveler will always be weaker than 4 stars, but does one thing better than everyone else expect the archons, so depends on the Hydro archon
@@viciousviego2478 what's the one thing he does better than the archons?
I am a lumine main and after watching the video I agree with everything except one thing...the travellers do have personality and it would have been genuinely better if they were voice acted out....traveller has the most dialogue and it would have been better if they talked during the main story quest.. also the travellers are 5 stars yet they have no animation for their burst as well..it would give more of a feel I really hope hoyoverse listens to us one day. OTHER THAN THAT GREAT VIDEO MAN :D
Yes they have most dialogue without saying anything. And we couldn't even choose what to say. Mihoyo forced us to say "I trust you Dainslaif" But I wanted to say I trust my sister. Bruh. Lol traveler
They really should take some of the times Paimon is speaking and give it to traveler. There are some instances where she goes completely uninterrupted that would flow better with a line from the Traveler.
My theory is that they're gonna introduce new options after traveler gets all the elements, maybe switching between elements or using the "light" element (hopefully both). The traveler is a 5-star after all and we know that they haven't unlocked their full power yet nor have they got their original weapon back. They might become the meta by the time the game ends, they're the protagonist after all.
@@_J_KallolBhattacharyyai think they meant most dialogue as in what you can find in the voice over menu of their character, there's tons of voice acted conversations between the traveler and paimon in there and the traveler has a lot of personality in those. it is a shame that a lot of that personality gets lost in quests where the traveler barely speaks at all and when you have chat options it's often all basically the same choices and often not very in character (like having to say you trust dainsleff while the traveler would probably be more on guard or at least be more sassy about it, it's all just to get the story going more quickly but it also breaks immersion)
There's also the additional insult to injury of traveler being a 5 star in name only - literal 4 star scaling on the ascension passive (5 stars get 28.8% ATK), as well as low damage across the board.
Geo Traveler still outdamages Zhongli. But they make a great combination with the 7 Resonance structures.
@@fa14bi-78 even ninguang outdamage most of the unit due to high multiplier, that's not the point here
@@igg12 One point was low damge across the board, and that's simply not the case, as geo traveler is without build up the best burst dps in game, because of his high scaling. The Geo Traveler falls back in consistent dps, but killing a group of specters by Simply pressing the burst, and getting it Reacharged again already in a lot of cases ist kinda nice.
The traveler is not one of the Strongest units in game, but people really like to think that they are worse then they actually are.
Aloy *cough*
@@fa14bi-78 Hmm I'd like to see how geo traveller is the best burst dps. That's quite a large claim.
as an ar 55 player im proud to say i’m a traveler main and really want mihoyo to match them to their lore power 😭
ar 41 here and i use anemo traveler as sub dps cuz i don't have any other anemo character :')
if were going in line with the lore. This game won't make sense. Ningguang is almost archon like in lore. Xiao is an adeptus. Raiden Shogun will just decimate anybody even without her Gnosis. If you match the traveller with the lore, then it would be unfair to say not to match others.
Ma' man, same here
GeoTraveler main myself; for budget Zhongli tho... Traveler can Solo the Childe Boss if you have some form of elemental support like Raiden Shogun's skill.
I feel that the best traveller will be dendro, only due to the lack of competition, taking in mind that only other dendro units we know are Yao Yao, Baizhu and the dendro archon itself.
Problems is that the Archon banner usually would appear after 1-2 banner.
@@Aibadenshi Although considering the story Sumeru will have its assumed that the lesser lord kusanali is not the real archon or atleast the real archon isnt considered the archon by their people so since that could insue having trouble figuring out who the archon is like venti and zhongli which we also didn't know was an archon it could be awhile before we get the actual dendro archon's banner
Probably adding New chars in for Dendro lmao
They could still do a similar treatment to polearms, though probably not as notorious since it's easier to just keep adding a type of weapon than a type of element. On launch, the only polearm user was Xiangling, but now we have a total of 7 users.
Edit: let's not forget that Shenhe and Yun Jin are also polearm users that will be added next patch.
@@dapes- to many ):
Lumine/Aether are their own character with personalities. Why they're forced to be treated like a faceless MC is confounding. I adore Lumine's dialogue and wish she would speak more.
"To make them exceptional would be defeating the purpose of making other units"
Xiangling: (*Laughs in Chinese*)
and Kaeya
@@lughlugh5948 kaeya is overrated
@@antonin2478 I'm still building him up nontheless for my Sayu-team
@@gilroyscopa good
Thank you, that shows how stupid this logic really is. Same with the power creep mentality other Gatcha uses to keep selling. It's all just a pitiful excuse to justify predatory practices.(Not appliable to genshin so far, but easily seen in some other gatcha)
I've used Aether since the start because I like going through the story with the actual story character. I will switch him out for Abyss or a domain team if needed, but I do like using the MC. I use characters I like, I don't go for meta or what's the best team. I use who I like. Which is why if I get Raiden Shogun next week I'll be fighting on if I want to switch out Beidou for her xD
EXACLY Same here with Lumine as a main, I just like going threw the story with the actual main charater
Oml an Aether main! I swear I never see anyone actually playing him besides me. Nothing against lumine but I prefer Aether's design so much more. It actually feels otherworldly to me, whereas lumine just feels like a discount Barbra imo
Lol same! I’ve used Lumine since day one but now she’s 20% more built than almost everyone (venti is an exception) but I do barely any dos without her so I’m glad I built venti too
@@detailedgacha7098 I was maining Aether until he needed 30 windwheel asters... Suffice to say I never did that and now I've built up chongyun and Yelan to form an amazing freeze team with Qiqi support and a plug-and-play spot, mostly used by Thoma
@@michaelgates3999 you can get 30 wind asters in like 10 minutes lol. Sevens tower near dawn winery, sevens tower at the big tree, and anywhere in storm terrors lair. I just had to get 60 for her lol
I genuinely used Lumine’s Wind attacks and thought they’re pretty strong. Especially when I mix it with other elements.
ive been playing for about a week now, I actually like Lumine a lot and it hurts seeing people telling me that she isnt good. Currently i dont have any othet character i can use for my main so I use her and it works just fine. Plus her wind attacks react with almost every other element so I see no reason swapping her. But yeah, seeing how everyone bashes the traveler makes me feel bad
@@lukev.evergarden9048 i feel you omg. I've been playing for a month now and i am planning to keep aether as my main. I have other characters who i could easily put as my main but i won't. Eather has a special place and dw abt what other people say. You do you :)
@@lukev.evergarden9048 Felt the same about Amber bashing. But what I learned about Genshin is, anyone is good. You just gotta know how to play them or else they're "ass" to you. Like Mage characters. I LOVE them character-wise. But Idk how to play them. However, Yae Miko is the ONLY Mage character I figured out how to use well enough to my liking. I really suck with the rest of the Mage users.
All characters can be strong, especially in the main game. Most technical complaints come from people only discussing abilities in their context for Spiral Abyss or domains, and not everyone is interested in grinding them.
agreed! the burst could be so SO strong when you pair it up with other elements.
I main Lumine :> I just feel weird if she aint there. I do think she has a personality to some extent. She is sassy and can joke around too. She's also often reluctant to get herself into situations that she sees no reason in invololving herself in. She is curious and interested in the vast worlds that she explores, even going so far as to collect as many books as she can to study all there is to know. She cares deeply for her brother, is fearless against even the strongest of oponents and the lowest of odds that come her way. While she may be bland to some, I think that she is a character to admire.
In personalities I like lumine the most, she has some humor, I just don't like that the mc is used as the errand girl or boy and that feels kind of disrespectful imo. The only other character I like a bit is Xiao and that is because I felt that compared to others he didn't intend to use you directly or inderictly, and it is one of the few that protected you and helped you.
Knigths of favonious, Venti etc you are just an errand person to them, characters like tartaglia tried to kill you and then use you to baby sit where is the coherence in you still talking or being with them?
@@Chelsso0 yeah I get that. I find it annoying that the characters never truly show Lumine their appreciation, or at least, the payoff in most cases never feels to personal to her. The only place where something good happened for her was after the Liyue archon quest where she gets to put up posters to find her brother. I like Xiao too also I get the Tartaglia argument but ngl I like him a lot so I'm biased 💙 and I didn't mind Tucer, he was super cute. But I would have liked for that quest to have at least given Lumine a better reward.
i'll let you know if i find the personality
you know something is about to go down when she puts her hands on her hips
@@Chelsso0 Mona did use us as an underling during her hangout quest, but has also been there to save us from Scaramouche after sensing his power (or intent? Idk)
I'm general though we do just get used as an errand runner which sucks
I felt like they’re more “lightweight” than “weaker” version of archons.
At least Electro Traveler doesn’t need to stay on field for so long to do their thing, allowing you to switch back to main DPS right away.
Geo Traveler if use properly you can rely on meteor to block and and deal extra damage from breaking the meteor.
Anemo Traveler can cause multiple swirl in a single elemental skills and element absorption also similar to Kazuha’s.
Even if you have those Archon, they’re not the same entity so you can use both.
I mean the Zhongli Traveller resonance combo is irreplacable
This is why I call Kazuha Walmart Aether.
@@Ibwidana I mean how can you complete Zhongli's pillar without Geo traveler's E? 😁😁
@@zendao7967 ahhahahahah
@@zendao7967 omg yeah ur right. Gotta complete deeznuts
They literally just need to allow traveler to either have the ability to pick and choose which abilities between the different elements you can use (for example Electro skill + anemo burst makes traveler a battery AND a CC unit)
That or some way to switch elements mid combat
If they do that, the mediocre power level would be offset by insane flexibility and the ability to have 5 elements on a team
Also let traveled wield new weapon types the more elements they get
Being able to use any weapon adds to the flexibility
This would be balanced due to traveler's bad abilities, but this at least opens up a whole new world of testing and trying different comps and combinations of abilities
or like picking a main element and then just doing extra things with the other elements you have passively
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@@ivanseryogin6526 So, like Aphelios' gun system?
@@fanficologist6621 idk what that is but probably yes
@@ivanseryogin6526 Aphelios have a system of five guns, each with unique identity, and his basic skills change based on which gun he hold in his main hand (like traveller have different elemental skill in each form)
However, Aphelios can also hold another weapon in his off-hand to add an additional property to his basic skill.
Imagine if Traveller has Anemo as main element and Electro/Geo as off-element. They can count as both Anemo and Electro/Geo for elemental resonance and their Palm Vortex also spawns additional energy particle (Electro's identity) or create a shield/break enemy shield (Geo's identity)
I think I'm one of the few people that absolutely adores the traveler. I've completely ignored the electro and earth ones, focusing on the anemo for her. She's at level 90 and she's got some good artifacts and a powerful sword. She's perfect support for Yanfei and Beidou.
lol i play the same characters, + noelle or barbara...i have been testing yanfei+beidou+xinqiu for max dmg, but i need better artifacts
I like playing with Aether, he´s a simple character and I don´t think he´s really that weak. The problem is, by comparison, there are broken units in the game and they´re more specialized. The traveler is a master of none character, which makes them difficult to fit in compositions.
Also, you might feel dissapointed with the character, since in lore they´re supposed to be VERY strong, even without their full powers. But in practice, they´re average.
One thing they could add is having the option to use the elemental skill of another element. It would not carry the constellations and stuff, but it would add to the "jack of all trades" nature of the character. For example: using the Electro traveler, having both skills but also being able to use either the anemo skill or the geo skill.
Same, i like playing with aether too. He is a really refreshing character.
Saame, he just feels fun, even if weak, he is just fun and for me that's all that matters
As an Aether main (I routinely use all elements but I do use Electro right now), I definitely agree. Traveller's mechanics isn't too hard to understand so you can oonga boonga with them anytime, or even just quickswap them if you already got a main dps on your team.
Hoping that Mihoyo can give us even just the ability to change elements with going to SoS.
Seeing people like you makes me so happy!! 😖💕
Well in abyss traveler would be just a waste of slot
I hope dendro traveller ends up being the best one since I have a feeling there won't be many characters with dendro when it becomes a thing. Most people have already heavily invested in all the other elements
Personally, I don't know what to feel about changing elements mid fight like that time with childe. But if they can make it so that we can customize their skill loadout prior to battle i.e. Geo skill, anemo burst or something, I'd be down to that. It would make the traveler a bit more interesting and it would still require you to use other characters for more options unlike having all current elements available AND be able to change them mid fight. It would make less sense since we already saw traveler change elements mid fight lore wise, but it would not make them too op that team building will be disregarded.
Cool
OMG, big brain moment. That would work epically well cuz then you could level only the talents you're interested in (one of the biggest turn aways for maiming traveler). And would make them feel special/powerful without adding TOO much complication. Very smart
I'd really love if they were in a permanent fifth team slot and had the ability to change elements.
Mihoyo needs to watch this. I knew Traveler was weak but didn’t even realize some things. Especially the thing about them being downgraded versions of the regions’ archons.
Traveller isn’t weak just nobody ever builds her. The archons may be better but are u rlly gonna get all four for free? No. But you will with Lumine
@@detailedgacha7098
traveler is trash
stop coping
It’s such a shame to see such a cool concept be turned into this. Mihoyo could have had so many things done to the Traveler that would have made them cool to use, but they just chose not to. I’ll still main Lumine, even if they’re unloved by many, there are still Traveler mains out there who’d enjoy them regardless. Someday the Traveler will get their time to shine.
Traveler is plenty stronger lorewise but they're not making him/her op because it's free character, and this is gacha game, i feel disappointed when they don't do good for traveler everytime
The main characters itself are better than the main character
Even has a traveler made myself, I gotta admit it would be pretty weird for a gacha game to have your starting character be all that great. I mean, where's the incentive to roll for new characters if the ones you start out with are all you need?
@@MrGamelover23 there are 4 characters in ur team, if 1 is strong 3 more characters would be desirable also u r not gonna use same character in every situation.
traveler mains unite!!
I actually main lumine, I don’t know why I think I just like the windblade and early on in the game I mostly upgraded her so she’s one of the strongest characters that I have right now.
I have the same case with aether, windblade is great in my opinion
Yo me too but with aether
@@shikhamichael1832 #traveler mains
Same lumine is really strong for me
Same case for me, with Lumine
Dendro mc : Let me introduce myself to all.
When doing story quests I like to use Aether just for immersion's sake and I do feel like the Traveler's just barely fine. I always keep him as Anemo since it's the element I like most so far.
Now if we could get the old Beta Windblade scream, at least Aether would be S Tier
Tbh ameno tactical is really good imo
wIIINBLADE!
Saaame. People in co-op sometimes question me like: "why are you using the traveler of all characters lmaooo" but I need it for immersion and every world quest/story quest/hangout I have the traveler in the team and try to make it work with the other 3.
Kaeya is actually really good. His main problem is that it's difficult to get his constellations. He's also worse than rosaria in reverse-melt. But apparently he has some pretty good constellations.
True. I have his C5
I have him also C5. I was about to flip my &$#@ when Kaeya was almost bad-mouthed, lol. I have, Ganyu, but I use Kaeya also often. His elemental does good damage and has low CD, and the burst is excellent when using Raiden.
@@SandorBR Good luck getting his C6 and if not, he is back in Paimon's store in June haha
@@postivelove2370 good for both of us! I bought him 2 times, the 3rd is the charm.
Kaeya is amazing as a Physical DPS too. He currently has the highest AA multipliers and when built correctly he can absolutely wreck everything ( for reference mine did 17k plunge attack from Zhongli's pillar with full blizzard set, physical damage bonus cup and aquila favonia at level 69)
Have Aether/Lumine be able to switch element will easily put him/her in everybody exploration team and his/her title as “traveler” would actually make sense.
Traveler fixes
Anemo: Make the tornado stop when it hits a big target.
Geo: Make the meteors act like ores, where greatsword users have an easy time breaking them and Zhongli gets an extra nuke with hold E.
Electro: Reduce E cooldown, have it generate more particles and get rid of the clunky talisman gameplay. The next character you switch to receives the flat energy and energy recharge buff (similar in function to thrilling tales of dragon slayers).
General: Let the normal attack talent level carry over through the different elements. Replace the ascension stat (atk%) with the corresponding elemental dmg%. Finally, give the traveler a non-combat passive talent like all the other units. My suggestion would be an x% increase in friendship XP.
Honestly, electro traveler needs some reworking. I played with him for like 10 minutes and went back to anemo immediately
@@sidr8920 same I did the same thing with geo but have since switched to a maining geo Lumine so I thought that would happen with electro too. It has not haha
Not me only using for to climb up mountains and get floating oculi
im so attached to playing as lumine, i still love using her anemo e so much (bc i love anemo in general) and she’s my best built character even though i KNOW i could have a way stronger team if i would just let her go
same lol but im just way too comfy w lumine n shes become too dear for me to get her out of my team.
Same I love Lumine and I really don't care much for hurrying through the game or having high stats in general. I'm just vibing tbh
@@francescapatti2934 Sameeeee
THESE ARE MY PPLLLLL.. I LOVE LUMINE SM SHE'S SO PERFECT AND COMFORTING. I KINDA WISH I WAS HER EMERGENCY FOOD.
I use the traveler when doing interesting and long story quests like the sakura cleansing or during the archon quests. it's not because i'm self-inserting, but from a creative/writer look i like looking at the traveler go through it, but right now since the story has been dead and we are going to have to wait until sumeru opens, i hardly have him (i'm an aether traveler) on my team.
on another note, i find it unfair to say that the traveler is bland personality wise? the game gives us two choices since the beginning, which is the snarky answers or the kind answers, and you can easily mix it to make the traveler a kind person who occasionally makes sarcastic comments, to the snarky traveler is once in a while kind. or you can have a full out sarcastic traveler to an always kind, sort of a push-over traveler. also, in their voice lines they appear to be very observant and generally quite curious of the world that surrounds them, and is always pretty sarcastic towards paimon.
These are fair arguments but there is one single issue that prevents me from not seeing the traveller as bland: they don’t talk in the quests. It’s paimon talking.
And so the traveller feels like an outcast despite apparently being the protagonist
@@tiramisu7544 paimon is traveler translator. Just hope that future chapter traveler is speaking, signaling their masteri of tevyat language.
They offered a slight explanation for this with a talk with Yae Miko. She brought up that the reason the traveler doesn’t have a vision is because their sights are too low. They have the strong ambition to find their sibling but it’s not enough to be manifested as a vision. This means that their elemental power will be weaker; it’s a portion of the archons power from the statues. This could mean that if the traveler changes their ambition into something else like fighting celestia, the fatui, or the abyss order, they could get a vision. This could make the traveler more relevant but it would probably be end game stuff.
It would be great if we get an artifact set that's unique to the traveler. Maybe something like an artifact set that gives universal elemental damage and can only be equipped on the traveler, and maybe a better unique weapon for them as well(excluding the ps exclusive weapon)
THESE, the problem with changing elements mid battles is that the artefacts wouldnt work cuz it needs to be so specific, having the exclusive set to MC would solve this problem, also they need to give skins to MC, like when we use the mask or the uniform from teppei
Maybe when it's almost end game , they will give it
@@Alextl-cm4vu brrooooo I full on agree
Mhm
I want a set with 78.5% ANEMO Bonus and Crit Rate 55.9%, Crit Dmg 63.6%, 10,000 hp
Considering my team has traveler, yanfei and aloy i think I'm doing quite well at playing characters nobody plays
Update - Zhongli, qiqi and xinqui have come from the banner but yanfei is still on my team (now as c6)
Update - I got ayaka to replace qiqi and now i have my dream team
Yanfei dominance
i didnt knew ppl dont like yanfei... i got her at ramdon in the gatcha, test her kit... and i actually find it fun, i use her a lot.
I play with traveller, amber, barbara, noelle. Soo i am with you buddy
Funny, Im saving for Yanfei (since my luck is bad at getting 5* haha)
@@william_6819 i feel you.. i started to not vare about 5* and focus in 4*.
What I’m thinking that Mihoyo might do, is give the traveler a new element; the light element.
The Light Element is already being theorized, but it is thought to be the first element the traveler had. The one that came with their sword, glider, and other abilities we saw at the beginning of the game when choosing our character. However, the twins lose the element after their encounter with the god.
During the reunion story with Dain, we even see that the sibling we didn’t choose has white on their outfit instead of the color of any other element. Since we know that this traveler has been with the Fatui and the Anyss, it could be safe to assume they traveled around the world and collected all the elements, which must’ve resulted in them gaining the light element. It’s unknown what the element might do, but it could mean that it’d improve the traveler’s abilities, making them more desirable but it could also result in us getting their sword, glider and possibly new artifacts that help them too.
It’s not clear if what I said is true, but it is what I believe and hope for.
Honestly I believe the same, plus their color palette heavily implies it. Maybe they would have different forms of light though? Aether being the sunlight and Lumine being the moonlight
That'd be cool, but coming from someone who only really wants to play to complete the story, it kind of sucks that the mc will be terrible up until the main story is (most likely) reaching it's conclusion.
@@bradenallen1241fair enough but I think celestia will be added as a final playable area after shneznia no clue how to actually spell that btw
Just my theory, it would make sense
Being able to choose skills for traveler would be so good, like standard normal attacks, anemo skill, electro burst. They would be much better support
Yesss
I feel that if MC ascention stats was crit rate/dmg, that would be a better option
Traveler ascension was meant to be newbie friendly, but sadly I hope it can change ascension bonus for every element like, electro is er, geo is cdmg, and so on
It would make absolutely no difference since every other scaling is still shit, no amount of crit can rectify that.
@@SmugHomura just make them play as twins with 2 different elements (can swap between male and female traveler but only take up 1 spot)
The only exception to the free characters being bad would be Xiangling, with her being fairly strong in a variety of comps. Not sure if her being free was an oversight or intended.
She was community choice, so more like her being chosen to be free was because people were already using her because she was good.
@@TimeKitt And then Lantern Rite came
barbara is also pretty good, not a bad healer if you don't have any other characters
i'd say even noelle, barbara (especially with the new clam set), and kaeya are the exception because these units are pretty strong, not the best but definitely better than the other 3 free starters.
xiangling is far better that those mentioned above tho, she literally is the best pyro dps in the game
@@googlrscholar eh depends on best pyro dps. With the current floor 12 hi Tao is probably better and on the last abyss both were the best depending on which half you put them in. Just depends on whether genshin is tilting to single target or multi target at the moment.
Imagine how cool and unique it would be if instead of a static ability set per element the player could choose their own load outs. It could keep them relevent with the increasing power level of other units and showcase the elements, but doesn't disincentives people from pulling other characters
Maybe a lot of ppl find the mc bland but I play Lumine and honestly love Lumine as a character, I like that she has this almost princess like outfit with her dress but that her personality is more sarcastic and snarky (if that's the right word) while ofc also being helpful and kind to her friends. I just really like the contrast in that. With a lot of the other teenage model girls in genshin having kind and sweet personalities (with some variation ofc) Lumine being more sarcastic makes her stand out to me. Aether is also rlly cool ofc, but I just think that Lumine's design in contrast to the personality of the mc's has a rlly nice effect.
I can kind of understand why they don’t keep burst and skill talents since they all do different things per element but normal Attacks?!
just a little note in the "gacha games always have an underwhelming starter unit":
Mash is actually a really good one in FGO. She might not deal a lot of damage, but she can babysit your DPSes while you're still getting used to the game
Agreed, I was just about to say that too.
Mash may have started of weak, but progressing through the story, she develops and becomes one of the best tanks/supports in the game. (We do not talk about LB Mash)
Considering how you aren't even forced to use LB Mash in events and in challenge quests, she's theoretically the best tank support in the game. (Unless someone in JP dethroned her, idk)
@@jackneoh8717 Ortinax Mash is such a downgrade compared to OG Mash but even then she still finds some use in my team by baiting bosses and proc-ing 500-Year Obsession 😂
@@PsycheTrance65 Plus, not only is Ortinax Mash only forced during story segments (meaning you can have her default to using her pre-Ortinax kit for the vast majority of difficult even content where you might actually need it), by the time it is forced on you you should have a roster powerful enough to deal with it. And, as you said, Ortinax is not without its genuinely good uses; a free (both in terms of monetary and party cost) 2T taunt + 1T invul w/o CEs is pretty damn useful for numerous setups even into the late game, especially given how rare taunt CEs are (in fact, IIRC we don't get another one now that Poster Girl rerun has passed).
Came here to defend Mash, saw other people on it already =w=
The good ol Mash Merlin DPS combo got me through all the difficult content in the game. Shes one of the best units in the game.
I'm a lumine main and it's so sad to see people not value the starter character because it's free, I personally can't beat any bosses or enemy's without her on my team. I feel like the free characters are so underrated and deserve more attention.
Do you still use her almost a year later?
Do you?
Yeah i wanted to build her full since she was my dps but levelling up her talents was so unfair, especially the normal attack ones. It would have been better if the talents were all on the same level in every element. My dps now is tartaglia lol. But anyways i can't wait for the pyro and cryo traveller though.
Me too as aether mc I ditched him at ar20 bc save primogems for eula and build xiangling kaeya lynette and noelle
I honestly use Aether because he is just fun for me :D I chose him from the start and never took him off my team, no matter how weak he seemed. The thing is, I have a lot of strong characters, Xiao, Hu Tao, Kazuha, Mona...a lot of strong 4* too and Aether just idk I think makes the content more fun for me because I don't do a lot of DMG with him, so I have to actually try
The other thing is, I love his character! He may seem bland at first but if you pay attention to their text, they can punch a funny line, or make the most funny expressions (which some were made into memes)
I may be just a simp but I love him :DD
Same, my team feels empty without him. 🥲💗
Aether main!!! Ever since I played, and I've been told that the way I design things (artifacts) is strange. "But it works", is what they've said, and you know what, it does. Aether is either my biggest stacked damage with his anemo, and great for exploration; his E is literally a huge chunk of rock that deals crit damage to bosses. Haven't invested much in electro, but those Anemo is splendid as hell.
I've got better characters but I found myself just enjoying my merry band of unconventional choices. My main two are Aether and Kaeya, and the other two are switched for whatever I feel like. Bennett and Xingqui through wishes, but otherwise, I use Xiangling, Barbara, Amber and Lisa, given free.
Got Albedo last time and while I leveled him up, I haven't moved him up with my Traveler + 4 stars/starter team group. Got Mona. Didn't like Mona HAHA
It really is about the enjoyment of using them. I would love to get the starter team buffs-- because they could honestly use it, but Aether/Traveler does mean damage when you give him good artifacts, and don't compare yourself to other characters. He's fun and stable to play :D
Same!! He’s always in my team
I still use anemo aether at AR54 hahah the one character that was pretty much always on my team haha
@@ThoseFerrets Anemo Lumine user at AR54 here.... holy shit the twin thing goes deep
Really wish that there is atleast ONE Traveler Element that'll stay relevant and usefull to many comps :(
Aether and Lumine, you're gonna shine in the future, I just know it.
I hope it's hydro, because we are really lacking on hydro supports right now. I'm tired of all the healers. Xingqou carrys the whole element and we only have 1 of him. So I wish that hydro travaler can make up to that
the main character has great versatility and the electro is not at all bad. Only problem is that they are so boring to play and one dimensional.
I think that the reason for this is that the traveler has the most basic use of the elements, so it's not as funny or as striking as other characters with those same elements.
For example Kasuha: He has this leap with anemo power and does a cool anemo plunge, and then he uses his sword to create a beautiful anemo zone. And traveler, he launches wind small and then big.
This happens with other elements, and with other characters, but as you say, the traveler is the most basic and underdeveloped one.
Even with all of this, I really like the traveler, because I got used to it's mechanics and because I always play the history using him, I don't like to have him out of the team just to see him in the next cutscene, it feels unearned.
Also sorry for the mucho texto.
I like the traveler alot. Just wish that they didn't make u level up the talent ALL OVER AGAIN FOR EVERY ELEMENT
I wish there was (or will be) a way to play them as a relatively good dps with more fun mechanics,
because I genuinely like many things about lumine, outfit, personality (from her ingame voice lines) and more.
but how are they boring? especially anemo? compared to xiao or ganyu THAT is boring gameplay xD and people still never say these are boring. or having people like the greatsword ones that merely slam only or people like yanfei where you only hold and press hold and press. in terms of being boring especially geo and anemo don't seem boring at all.
electro to main them to me is only benficial if they are built not electro but physical. but there i would agree its a boring gameplay (and similar to beidou which I also class as boring)
I just wish that they would give the main characters ultimate burst a animation to make it feel more special and make people want to use them more. Also Thier design in terms of outfit is not all that special. Changing the element only changes the color of the outfit. These isn't any major changes. They could have made it so each element u change has like a design Influenced by the place/area
Lumine might not be the strongest character at equal level, however :
- Fastest character to ascend
- Cute as hell
- Free character
Electro Traveler would be SO GOOD if they actually generated a good amount of particles on E.
As of currently their E just generates a whooping 1 (one) electro particle on hit. Even with 250% ER they still have big energy problems. It's ironic that the character entirely based around being an energy battery needs a battery themselves.
Well... yeah. You can't have some random 4 star outdo Baal.
Why do you think they nerfed Lisa in 2.1 when Baal released? For fun?
@@jadecoolness101 Except none of them are even comparable to Raiden since she outdamages both of them by a mile. In terms of energy gen though Electro Traveler can already beat her, it's just that they get screwed by poor burst uptime even when built completely for ER. Lisa is just a result of Lisa's kit being clunky and dysfunctional since launch.
@@sweetillusions5495 I'm not sure how Lisa's kit being clunky relates to her being nerfed when Baal was released but ok XD
I personally dont have that problem. I have Favonius Sword at R3 so I get good use for Electro Traveller.
@@jadecoolness101 how exactly was lisa nerfed? Kinda missed it
I've seen some videos about a possible free 5 star sword in the future. The one you could see in the very beginning when you had to choose between aether and lumine. It would make sense to give the traveler their sword back in the future.
Now i'm hoping that if they maybe actually give them the sword at some point, they make it strong enough to buff the traveler extremely. So they can actually be usable, BUT only make the skills available when equipped with the traveler.
Thats would be a cool addition to the story and a great way to make the traveler valuable imo.
I think that's the traveler's role: being a decent substitute for the units you lack. Anemo traveler was my only anemo for a good while. Geo traveler's damage is alright and allows the player to use geo constructs to climb stuff more easily. Electro traveler is an universal battery.
Though their dmg is pretty low, one thing that I really liked about electro mc is how you can run rational team with them as a substitute for Raiden. At C6, around 300% ER and a fav sword, everyone gets their burst off cooldown lol
I'm planning to try them with 4pc Exile (or 2pc emblem + 2pc exile/scholar) since I do have a bunch of ER% substats but not everyone has those
Not sure how viable this team is but it's pretty fun to use
The MC will most definitely have some power-ups during the story
It's clear by its skills animations that MC currently haven't mastered the elements they use. Comparing Geo MC constructs to other Geo constructs makes it flagrant
No. Rest assured, Mihoyo will gut the MC every opportunity to "incentivize" spending. There is no profitable benefit to powering up a character no one has to pay for, or ever pay for. So there is no incentive for Mihoyo to ever power them up beyond any four star character they release that will always perform any single role you can think of for the Traveler, but better.
@@SeraphimDragon I doubt it'll stay that way for long. Unlike their other games, they gave us a full on video showcasing every chapter for Genshin, meaning the story will eventually end. And if it does end then there's not really much of a point to add more characters so it's possible that they will buff the Traveler once it's all over. Especially since apparently we're gonna fight Dainsleif once we're done.
@@SeraphimDragon I invite you to search up Augment Cores my Angelic Dragon Friend. AC are like the Sword of The Father in FFXIV, they take traits of a character and strengthen them.
@@quintinthomas928 Mmm, Mihoyo did confirm Honkai and Genshin are part of the same universe so maybe that option will eventually present itself, but I'm far from being convinced after the way they've treated the Genshin player base specifically this past year. Every adjustment or incentive they made for the players always felt like a backhanded compliment (weapon focus path), or a half-hearted apology (anniversary). The only exception being Zhongli, and even then that was primarily only due to the CN player base taking up arms about it. They really don't care about feedback from outside of CN.
I don't mind that I can't switch elements in combat. But being able to switch their element quickly while exploring would be enough for me to keep them in the party until I've mapped out the whole zone. Changing characters just to do a puzzle that requires a specific element always infuriates me.
I think lumping Kaeya in with the other f2p characters is pretty ballsy...
He is very useful in many comps. He can battery characters like Ayaka and Eula pretty well while being very low investment for it, he is a decent reaction enabler and a pretty good freeze dps who can utilise all the same things that make freeze broken as ayaka and ganyu, just without the absurd numbers... with 4p Blizzard Strayer, a crit dmg sword and XQ you can basically hack away on enemies without getting hit even once...
Of course the 5* cryos outclass him, but in terms of 4*... he's the most versatile one.
Heck, he can even be a damn decent phys dps, thanks to his good multipliers and fast atk speed
I was thinking the same, too. In some builds he can very well become better than some 5stars. Kaeya is a very underrated unit. I genuinely don't really need any other cryo characters besides Chongyun, Kaeya and Qiqi simply because of Kaeya's burst and his ER. Plus, in my opinion, there's too many cryo characters to begin with. They need to let pyro and cryo have a break and give Hydro a claymore and a spear. I'm assuming there's going to be an onslaught of Dendro when we get closer to Sumeru, but I'm keeping my expectations low, just in case.
@@Birdsong231 I have to admit, I ditched my cryo Kaeya for Ayaka, she's very similar in terms of playstyle but just a bit more fluent and a bit more burst heavy... but that does not mean Kaeya is bad. Being just "a bit worse than one of the top meta dps characters" is pretty damn good for a character everyone can get for free (theoretically and with patience even to c6 since he's in the shop regularly!)
The only cryo that feels notably different to Kaeya (Ganyu = aimshot Kaeya, Ayaka = Kaeya fused with chongyun, Rosaria = Boobie kaeya...) is Eula, due to her nuke burst
I would love to see the travelers similar to the persona series main characters.
They don't talk much, but can be both good self insert AND good character on their own
"Why *NO ONE* plays traveler"
Every traveler main: "The only problem with that theory is that IT'S FKIN WRONG"
2:27 the fustrated camera shake😂
"You need to farm different artifacts sets for each traveler"
Me: Slaps my best Noblesse on them and call it a day.
I run 4pc severed fate for burst dmg multiplier and festering desire for elemental skill multiplier, so i get 32% for the skill and 45,53% for the burst (due to the energy recharge i have). These multipliers allow you to run attack goblet (since i switch elements ALOT) and the damage wont stay behind ^^ all i got to worry is leveling talents to improve damage
At most u can keep the set just change the goblet lmao
@@yukinoarts no really need to change (: geo is dealing 16.5k and 10.7k in skill and ulti and if i pop a bennett ult, 29k and 21k
me with gladiator set with godly sub stats: Tengo el poder y me la pelas
@@SniperFallen06 ahh i had my time using 4pc gladiator xD i used to love it
As a Lumine main, I look forward to this video
Also to fix them, I'd honestly bump up the ult multipliers on electro and just fix the cons for anemo and geo. Like, geos cons literally contradict one another since one makes the starfells explode while the other makes them last much longer. And anemos just suck in general
I completely agree with a lot of this because even if my geo mc does decent damage, it is really clunky to play, absolutely. However, I will say that it's a bit unfair to call the traveler "bland" personality-wise. I can get why people don't pay much attention to the traveler's character though, you have to kind of create a distinction between paimon and traveler to figure it out. The traveler in Inazuma has a lot more backbone, but throughout previous quests, paimon is the one who's always pushing harder to help so it's pretty interesting seeing the traveler decide against paimon and say no to helping. I especially like how sarcastic the traveler can be, they're pretty funny when they play jokes on npcs. I find that those kinds of world quests are the best showcase of their character since paimon doesn't interact in a lot of them. I just wish they could have the mc be voiced in dialogue, truly, they don't act like a silent mc. Mihoyo really let down the traveler as an mc and in gameplay.
I don't want to be the strongest and complete the abyss I just wanna complete the story....
For me, the traveler fills the role on when I need a specific element. Since I either don’t have or I don’t like certain units, it works for me. For me, it’s design, personality, wpn/element. Skills aren’t even something I worry about cuz if I like the character, I will find a way to make them work well for me regardless.
My geo traveler is my main dps. Love him. I have a lot of fun playing this way. Although I would make a few adjustments to him. I would make the geo constructs repel enemies if they happen to stand on top of them. This way there won't be any awkward situations when you accidentally lift up a bunch of enemies with burst.
Secondly, I'd adjust his constellation. There is this one constellation that increases the duration of meteorites (or whatever those rocks are). It doesn't make any sense, because it is benificial when one of them BREAKS, dealing damage to everyone next to it.
Thirdly I would fix his burst by making it stun enemies instead of pushing them away. It is annoying as hell. Aaand it doesn't make sense since the circle boosts your crit damage, and by pushing away the enemiea it's pretty dumb.
Finally Someone Else Who Mains The Traveler, I Build My Traveler Geo And Use Him With Albedo
@@stonerlewis I tried so hard to get Albedo, but luck was not on my side this time.
I also main traveler, that additional crit rate on his ult is just amazing IF i can hit them again after they have been pushed LOL
I feel Geo Traveler is easily the best one imo, from a damage point of view anyways.
Yep, elevating enemies is actually my biggest gripe with Geo traveler. Pretty good otherwise, even with mediocre constellations.
there is one thing i really hope mhy would do for the traveler: customizable skill, burst and constalation. This will help traveler into a very versatile char and make traveler into a more interesting fun char to play, also making everytime we got a new element for the traveler more exciting.
- i know many people have brought this up before and one of the problem it might have is which element the traveler going to be, my solution is simple: none, just like before we receive ameno. It will be a trade: we trade traveler element(element resonance) to get custom skill.
- my idea for how this system work:
1) you choose an elemental skill/burst from any element that you already unlock
2) you choose passive and cons relating to the skill/burst you just choose
Atleast now with dendro traveler there is an actual reason to use him, since he's currently the best dendro support. Yes, he will be outclassed by future dendro characters, but you dont need to spend much for leveling stuff soooo...
I remember using my Lumine a lot at the beginning. But when I got to Liyue (I explored Mondstad at around 80% before going to Liyue) and realized that I had to level up the talents again when switching elements, got so discouraged that I never used geo (and later electro) traveler. So now, I only sporadically use her when I need Anemo, and ever since getting Venti on his first rerun, I use her even less. Also, I disagree that she doesn't have a personality. Though silent, her personality shines through the dialogue choices and voice lines on her profile. To me she's a carefree soul, a joker. Just like that fun classmate at highschool.
Yeah especially noticeable with his/her interactions with paimon when its just the two of em
As someone who mained The anemo traveler I'm pretty excited for this. Truthfully I'm hoping by the time all the elements come out (with possible light or dark elements) or they have their original power; they will be super powerful.
I say that because they are elementary versions of the archons. But when they have their true power they wont be elementary of anyone.
Lorewise : Sure
Gameplay wise : Pretty Sure no. They won't give traveller an element which doesn't connect to the Overall Reaction System of Genshin. Do you think they will add a Darkness DMG Bonus Goblet? Pretty Sure not.
-Geo Aether Main
@@aggromango534 I agree. I'm just on hopium
hello fellow anemo mains
@@aggromango534 There is no reason to think new elements could not be a part of reaction system, just like we don't know dendro reaction's yet, so this argument is invalid. It's not only lore issue. Firstly, remember Dainsleif and other mentions about abyss power, even in Childe case. Now look that after Shneznaya we will have whole Khaernia'h chapter. Then, remember about power of Celestia and original power of Travelers. It's not only lore but it's just impossible to finish this game without other powers than 7 elements. So are you saying that this game will never finish? It's possible that those powers would not have whole mechanics of 7 elements and could be very restricted to quests in main story and only in final parts. That's a minimum to expect. Some say 7 elements are all we will have and are just wrong. Still, I don't see any reason to be sure we won't have just whole another elements. Just look on Childe, how they made new mechanics just for one character. Everyone also knows how Genshin is profitable and let's not forget that their already ambitious plan was before success became much much greater than they expected. So if Genshin continue to be a good buisness, they would have enough reasons to expand Teyvat and mechanics as much as they can. Now remember that in Teyvat there are more than 7 countries of archons and whole universe design is purposefully very open for new possibilities. Finally, remember we are really still only at the beginning of this game.
It would have been really nice if traveler's stats increased with each new element, where you start off with the stats they have now, which are low end 4* stats and they end up with high end 5* stats after unlocking all elements.
I also agree that there's zero point of having new elements start at 0 talent level. At the very least, once you crown, they should be crowned for all versions, even if you had to level them to 9 individually. Especially considering that you would need to get new sets for every element. There are other incentives to use other characters anyway, such as leveling up their friendship, diversity to keep the game fresh (which are my main incentive), characters have different strengths and weaknesses, etc.
As an FGO player of 5 years and a content creator for both games, I have to call you out on 3:12
Mashu, the only Shielder type Servant in the game, is actually one of the best units you can have against anything that's even remotely difficult. Everyone gets her immediately upon starting the game and as they progress in the main story, she goes from 3* stats all the way up to 5* as of today. She's also the only unit you cannot delete from your account. Also she is the only unit in the game that has a cost of 0, meaning she can be super flexibly inserted into any teams while leaving more cost for your 5*s. A top tier, basically broken and free unit through and through and by all means and purposes, she IS the main character because the Master cannot participate directly in combat.
Love youre content dude, okitalove
Oh hi Myst. Wasnt expecting to see you here lol. Also agreed. Best Kouhai is so good
Totally agree. The only complaint I have when it comes to her is the new set of skills she gets when the Lostbelt ark begins. Her original skill set was flexible and fit into almost any team perfectly!
Thankfully you can still swap back to the original ones for most of the event banners, but being locked in to the new skill set for the main story quests takes some getting use to.
yes. Primary reason most people dont use her (especially in farming) is because we already have max bond points with her
And then they ruined Mashs's skill set when come to Lostbelt. Like seriously, what with the Buster buff skill ?
I'm too attached to Lumine , she's always been in my team and I just can't see my team without her
That was my thoughts before I saw, Wanderer and pulled for him. Before one of my last wishes I told: Pleace give me Wanderer I would even take Lumine (Anemo) away for him. And yeah... Next pull I got him.... But I maybe could use her as Anemo..... I don't need Xiangling...
*"Why no one plays" this specific character list.*
✔ Why no one plays Keqing.
✔ Why no one plays Amber.
✔ Why no one plays Kokomi.
✔ Why no one plays the Traveller.
❎ Why no one plays Xinyan.
❎ Why no one plays Aloy.
❎ Why no one plays Thoma.
❎ Why no one plays Chongyun.
❎ Why no one plays Lisa.
Thona was a shock for me when i tested with hu tao, unfortunaly
@@pdg_strix2447 its so sad he had a great potential
Err, my Hu Tao + Thoma team does great. Build up them stacks!
@@NickEnlowe ive tested a lot of rotations and builds, but it keeps and keeps stealing 40%-50% of the reactions, didnt work for me, great it works for u, keep going
@@pdg_strix2447 Have you tried tankfei with prototype amber, she is crazy
To upgrade traveler's talents they could make it so progressing through the main story of each region rewards you with an exclusive item for leveling up a talent, something like they do with constellations.
Its hilarious that the free characters in star rail are actually decent and have personality.
exactly . fire mc feels like a 5 star unite he's supposed to be and stable in many players teams .. unlike traveler which you replace them as soon as you get a better character
I wish with the traveler, that you can change their element in the section where you edit your party. It would make it easier and more convenient. Plus, for certain dungeons they ask for a geo element for it, and idk about others, but I have no other geos except for the traveler and a very low level noel, however, I also like to use electro Traveler a lot, so most times right when I'm about to jump in as traveler, I realize, "oh wait I have to go to liyue to change to geo" and it's such a hassle. It would make using traveler a bit better to just be able to change elements in the party setup
I love geo traveler, so I was looking forward to electro traveler. Really disappointing.
Anemo and geo are both actually pretty good, just underrated. Geo is one of the only crit rate buffers, which is big, their skill hits like a lot of bursts do (it doesn't at first glance but it hits twice) and their burst is one of the best in terms of damage.
Also free xiangling is one of if not the best, absolutely wacky
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if when all Countries are unlocked we'd get an Avatar-style Traveler, utilizing all elements at once and being actually good now. Of course, there's prolly gonna be some Gacha-Bullshit linked with that, like needing to pull a special item for each of the element to stack onto them or something idk.
image that traveler’s sword is the thing we need to be able to use all elements with traveler and u have to pull for it.. or even worst.. buy it with crystals
It's possible that they'd just add a kit customization interface where you can pick a skill and a burst and talents or something
I could see choosing one skill and one burst from two different elements but more than that would make reactions way too easy to proc and break the game potentially
Dendro made Traveller viable again and I'm so happy to be able to put her on my team comps again and explore Sumeru with her. (Hyperbloom is a very fun team comp :3)
She was my "main" for the longest time, almost always as Anemo (both bc Geo's rocks suck to maneuver around and bc I had literally no other anemo characters until AR30-40). She was with me all the way through Mondstat and Liyue and getting my first team up to lvl 80. She even popped back in to help with Inazuma as Electro Traveller but she got replaced as soon as I got Shogun lol.
But yeah, I like Aether and Lumine's designs (esp lumine), they are my babeys. I just wish Mihoyo gave them some more love, considering they're, you know, the Main Character. Something like idk.. actual voice acting for big plot moments? Heck even just give some of Paimon's lines to us, worth a shot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also,
I really really wish that at the end of the game (but preferably sooner) we get the option to switch Traveller's element on demand.
Like an extra skill or gadget (mini statue of the seven anyone?) to choose or otherwise cycle through the elements. I'm even fine with it being an out of combat thing, I just remember the pain of exploring Liyue and constantly having to switch Traveller to Geo and back again.
Being able to select their skill and burst separately, i.e. have the anemo skill but geo burst, might be an interesting concept. It would vastly reshape their role on parties, but it would also prevent their multiple elements from being too game breaking, since splitting elements would mean artifact set bonuses wouldn't be as easily utilized.
Oh & let’s not forget about Electro Traveler’s burst with Childe’s skill. It’s almost like having the Delusion Unleashed version of Childe before he even gets released.
Problem is, Beidou is significantly more powerful than electro traveler especially at c2, you could use them together but Fischl has better uptime
@@JeyDub08, fair enough. I guess the Traveler can end up being kinda redundant combat-wise. Talk about “beginner character” syndrome huh?
"all main characters in gacha games are weak"
Pre-lostbelt mash: I'm sorry I'm couldn't hear it over the sounds MAKING MY ENTIRE TEAM ALMOST UNTOUCHABLE.
no hate bro love your videos
Was looking to see if anyone else was like. 'Mash would like to have a word with you' plus she's not 'that' bad in the lost belts. At least the decrease in power matches up with the lore. Unlike traveller XD.
Kiana is also not weak with her later forms
I'm using traveler cuz he's the main character cuz it gives me more story vibe
I wish anemo traveller's ult would stay once they've suck in an opponent instead of running away and then if an opponent survived, you have to quickly go to them (especially when it's an abyss mage) which is a hassle
Anemo traveller
Ultimate is to be use against a group of smaller enemies
I always wonder if the traveler will get an awakened state towards the end of the game. I feel like it would make sense. Because the story would have progressed to the point where the traveler op as hell and in control of all the elements simultaneously. It would even make sense from the gameplay, you would only unlock this version of the traveler very late, so you wouldn’t be too strong in the early game. I dunno, just a thought xD
I think you should do a video on Klee instead of yanfei personally. Yanfei is a competent main dps with her homing shots and stack building, along with the extra instance of pyro when she cries with her charges attack. Meanwhile klees effective range is incredibly short, her bombs need to be clumped together to be used effectively, and her ult has no off field capabilities
Klee has a higher play rate than Yanfei though. And she's way more fun 2 play in every aspect, but that's just my opinion.
I agree, I was so much surprised about putting Yanfei in this category. Many players who invested in Yanfei won't go for Klee or at least have serious doubts. And yes, in some aspects Yanfei can be better, more convenient, useful and fun, but there are also personal preferences of course. Also let's not forget we are comparing 5* to 4* and very similar, same role. Klee should just outclass Yanfei easily, but that's not the case. Moreover, we are talking about best dps element, pyro, with so many characters in general and so many great dps among them, even everyone's 4* Xianling. So we need to put this into perspective to evaluate play rate of Yanfei. I would say that in the whole context the fact that 4* Yanfei is main dps in some teams is showing that she's great and just as it should be.
@@よしみ-x5j Ok, but who has the higher play rate? This series is about popularity contest not who's the strongest.
@@adam.n-steve Of course. As I'm saying, Klee as 5* should outclass Yanfei. But I'm not seeing it personally in co-op or in comments, that's why I said I'm surprised here. Where do you have exact numbers for play rate? I would be glad to see them, I don't know them unfortunately. Do you mean % from the Abyss maybe? First, that's only part of the game. Second, it's not showing popularity at all, as those are percentages from the number of players having a character. Of course there will be many players having a 4* that they don't want at all, while almost all players having event 5* are the ones that wanted them much at least at some point. Also even those surprised by early 5* are more likely to appreciate it more, build and use. Comparison in popularity it's really far from being as easy as looking at percentages from the Abyss, just the opposite, it might be very misleading. Like Kokomi has a very high percentage, but that doesn't mean she is popular. Just the opposite, she has high percentage in the Abyss, because she is not popular, so players having her are generaly more dedicated. We even have to consider banners to seriously evaluate popularity. And of course let's not be misled by broken examples of Bennet, Xingqiu and Xianling. I also already explained, you need to consider context of state of pyro element.
@@よしみ-x5j Eh? I think you replied to the wrong person lol
I like the Traveler because it's a "Jack of All, Master of None" deal. I enjoy pushing the mediocre to it's limits, even if it gets frustrating sometimes.
I would like a rework of the Traveler though. Just some QOL stuff would go a long way
On behalf of all Traveler Mains, i thank you for voicing our grievances. We are simply languishing about whilst biding our time for Light(Their original power) or Avatar Traveler to cope.
What I would like for traveler is to be able to select one element to use for their skill, and another to use for their burst. Imagine all the possible combinations that could be made once all 7 elements are made available for the traveler to use.
I play Lumine constantly. I love her and Aether very much but Electro needs to be buffed.thanks for making yet another great video.
**Dendro Traveler has joined the chat**
It's sad that dendro traveller will be overcrept by other dendro units
@@Joodstudios
Still for a free unit Dendro traveler feels really good.
Uh... More Traveler mains raise ur hands ✋
I like using the traveler they're one of my strongest characters, second only to Itto. Maxed out Geo is really strong as well.