Hi Peter, actually the German company Rotring (from Hamburg) is owned by the American company Newell Rubbermaid. They closed the production in Germany, and those typ of mechanical pencils and leadholders are now manufactured in Japan by a company called Holbein ( funny, because it's a German name...)
Wow, would have never guessed that. But it makes perfect sense because holbein is a most excellent company, like God level, just like Rotring seems to be. I have the impression neither of them are about cutting any corner. You can see it reflected in both the quality of their products 😍 and the price of them also 😭.
Love the way you do the “sponsored segment”. So many content creators kind of sneak their way around it with “I just found this great website/product that I like a lot and you should too”. Just be straight with it
I think because he is trying to do an honest review. Usually if he reviews something he doesn't test it for a whole month, but in this case he did. :PP Also yess I hope everything is okayyy :o
As a fellow rotring fan I can also recommend the rapid pro 2 mm version. It's much cheaper and is still all metal and clicks like a mechanical pencil and has a sharpener on top. Edit: it's like $28-30. Still really expensive but really nice
@@reececrawford1688 In fairness, he could have meant to reply to someone else. Also, incel has a meaning my dude. Calling someone one for doing something unrelated is kinda whack.
Bought some on Black Friday for about $13 each (a Rapid Pro and an 800). Had wanted one for a while, but I think I still prefer my Kuru Toga over them for general purpose.
Hi Peter, I just wanted to say thank you. I've been kind of depressed lately, and watching your videos has helped me. I love what you do and what you create (art and videos), your an inspiration-thank you.
Feeling depressed is the pits. I hope you keep on feeling better and better and have nothing but blue skies ahead. Creating something can help sometimes.
I really love Peter's reviews, but on this pencil I have to disagree. Actually this mechanical pencil is pretty bad for anything else than drawing for fun - and Rotring items generally aren't designed for that. If you're thinking about upgrading your pencil for architecture school or something like that, don't go for this one! Besides the fact that material gets stolen all the time, this item is way too heavy for daily use. Sometimes you need to draw for a couple of hours and you'll be really exhausted with a pencil made out of steel after just half an hour or even earlier. The worst part about it is the way you change the lead though. If you go for 2mm graphite, simple pencils like the Koh-I-Noor Peter compared it to are way more versatile. Sharpening them is a lot easier, they are not that heavy and also last a lifetime. Faber Castell is a much better brand than Koh-I-Noor though. Rotring items are made for engineering drawing and the brand is known to be the best manufacturer for that. However, this pencil is an exception. It's just overkill for that. When it comes to drawing for fun, you won't regret buying this pencil though. It's great in quality and I totally agree with everything presented in this video.
meh a friend of mine bought one of those, but not for architecture, but machine building "schlosser" in austria and the reason they are amazing is their durability yyou can drop that shit or smash it with something and it will work perfectly. At least if i'm not mistaking it was a rotring lead holder that cost 50 bucks. Tried drawing with it, was meh, no need for all the steel there, but incredible for what it was designed for. Sharpening isn't a problem either cause you don't do that there
I think you'd need to either have carpal tunnel syndrome, or relatively weaker-than-average hands in order to be exhausted from using a pencil. I've had it for a while and never had a problem with it, and I draw for 2-3 hours every day, and I don't think I have particularly strong hands.
I’d have to respectfully disagree. I’ve been drawing with 600s and 800s for years and never had an exhaustion or soreness issue. I find holding paintbrushes and palettes to be more tiresome, but even then it’s not an problem because you can just shift around for 30 seconds and then you’re good for another hour. Perhaps you have some sort of muscle atrophy disorder or are just generally frail and overall physically pathetic. (Kidding, but I genuinely have not had that problem myself)
@@GuillRickard It doesn't matter what you think, but what actually is. Look, there are no twigs taking of you ain't get bees to eradicate the summer apostrophe. Hope you get it.
do it!!! it's super easy once you get the hang of it and its incredibly relaxing...i do it right before bed as a way to decompress my mind and get away from electronic screens before i sleep
I used the Staedtler Mars Technico 780 (yes largely plastic but well made and a fraction of the cost of that battleship you've been lugging around) all through most of my schooling and it never let me down. Years later it's still going strong! Thanks for introducing your other lead holder, Peter. That one has some swagger.
I bought this pencil 6 years ago and still using it. This is an awasome pencil, and I have never used a pencil this much before and it is totally worths it's price.
@Zero Cool im saying if someone wanted to hire him so that they could draw the same type of things he could help them sure, he's a great artist and his art is not easily replicated. Im saying most people cannot replicate his work because hes very unique and has an eye for what he draws. Doesn't mean what other people draw is better or worse, im just saying his work is very unique and cant really be taught its more of a trait the person has
Rotring was bought by a Japanese company some years ago! And the production site was moved to japan so thats why your lead holder wad imported from Japan.
Koh-i-noor isn't near as good as Venus. The pencils are okay but personally I think scripto is better. I sell all kinds of pencils and I ain't even into them but Koh is bottom rung
Hi Peter, the "stage freight" you mentioned is actually a known phenomenon. Medical experts call it "R.I.", or Rotring Intimidation. As a decades-old collector of Rotring implements, I can verify that I often avoid eye contact with them...for fear of judgement! They are so well engineered, and so precisely manufactured, that they seem to whisper, "What are you going to do that's worthy of me"?
I've been watching this channel almost everyday for like 4 years, and every video he uploads it feels like a holiday, some old videos from 3 years feel like new, like when i see the old thumbnails i think of them as new videos i dont know why especially the plant reviews and glowing pens
Fun Fact In Germany we call these "Druckbleistift" which would translate into "Press (from pressing) Pencil. The Name comes from "drücken" which means pressing as you have to press at the end for the lead to come out 💁♂️😂
Fun Fact: In the USA if you press a pencil and the lead automatically advances we call that a mechanical pencil. If the lead falls out due to gravity it is a lead holder. So what this guy has here is a mechanical pencil, not a lead holder. Plus I doubt his Rotring 800 would even fit into a lead sharpener. Looks too fat to me. The barrel is all wrong.
His channel is what I call a "bowl of noodles channel" Bowl of noodles channel: 1• A channel on TH-cam that has every video uploaded that is perfect to watch while eating a bowl of noodles of all quantities. 2• A TH-cam channel that just does noodle reviews
I have been using this pencil for a few years now. Mine is black. I also have the Rotring 800 0.5mm and Rotring 600 0.7mm. Despite Peter saying it is the heaviest of the three in the video, they are quite light and well balanced. They are great and worth the money, as Peter said, if you can afford it. I am thinking of buying two more 600s because the 0.5mm and 0.7 come in red and blue, red being my favorite color. I may get a 3 in 1 instead but I'm undecided. The pencils were produced both in Japan and Germany at one point in time but it now seems Japan is the sole manufacturer. The pencil in the video is a Series 6 Rotring 600 2mm which is only produced in Japan. Series 1 of this line of pencils, produced in 1988, was the only one exclusive to Germany. Series 2, 3, 4, and 5 were produced by both countries. Hope this helps anyone trying to decide whether or not to purchase this pencil. I highly recommend you do.
I carry the same philosophy for any expensive instrument/utility and such: if it's an item that you're going to interface and interact with alot, it is worth getting the best you can afford and avoid bottom of the barrel stuff. Few exceptions for cheaping out tho are just personal preference and trusted brands that have earned their space in the market. Of course always be responsible with your spending and do your research before buying a product.
I thought using a lead holders to sketch was a rare thing. I love it. I ran across one in the drafting supply at my local hobby store. I do like to have a sharp point with mine. On the Stylus thing, people with larger fingers use them with better accuracy.
Peter, you should try free motion quilting. It’s basically a continuous line drawing made with thread. I’d be interested to see your style in that medium. 😊🧵
I used to use a pen/stylus hybrid with my tablet, to draw. I have it with me always to use in my bullet journal, and then if I'm bored and have my tablet on me, I can draw on that. That being said, it's more just a convenience thing because I usually also have a sketchbook with me too, and my fiance has commandeered my tablet anyway. Which is all good because the stylus and of mynpen broke. On the plus side, it's an amazing pen, so I still love it lol. Plus I got it at the wedding of one of my close friends, so it inspires a very good memory :).
Man, that thing looks great, and I trust you that it feels, and smells delicious. But yeah, steep price. And of course it's a lead holder, the mark is just as good as any old lead holder. So alltough attractive, I won't spend that much cash on a fancy way to hold a graphite stick. (Also bought a Faber Castle lead holder recently, not $50, but not cheap either, slim sleek desig , nice enough).
I hesitate spending over $20 on a pen to use For drawing and I do have a lot of dip nibs that I have used for years but never one for $50 and never for a single pencil or clutch! Koh-I-noor is a Czech Republic company but they might have an Italian factory, I do enjoy their color pencils and soft (medium) pastels! You are truly talented and quite inspirational in your videos! Thank you for sharing your point of view!
I have the .5 mm silver rotring , I love it and enjoy it . Also I am a machinist so I can appreciate the quality in manufacturing of these pencils . Now I must buy the 2.0mm
Just love to watch you! One of my FAVORITE art channels on YT. Now that I see you have a DAFT PUNK coffee mug you ranked a billion times higher! Lol. Love the mug👍🏻👍🏻💞
japan is a real mechanical pencil wonderland, I wouldnt be surprised if most specialized pencils if not available locally would be coming from japan just because the use of them there is so high, and cute pencil pouches uwu
Premium but.. I also have a 800 the 0.5 mm for several years now,it is everything you say! But.. when I use it outdoors in sunny weather, the gold plated tip reflects an gold auro on the paper. This is extremely disturbing, really. Otherwise it is the best and most used graphite pen I own. Premium video!
Took one look at the Rotring and knew for someone like me with a heavy hand it would be worth the money. Of course I will never take it out of the house. It would be too expensive to lose. Had that experience, let's say multiple times, with my Apple pencil.
Also you should get into mechanical drawing and cad because it really is satisfactory when you complete something very rigid and discipline. It also involves more tools which are great. I would draw a mechanical part that might go in a motor or something and then after I turned it it and got graded I turned it to an art piece...two birds ya know. ,’)
So I’m German and I think the name rotring comes from the two word rot=red ring=ring, explaining the red plastic ring. This may be obvious but it just came to my mind
galleyman come on man, this may not be obvious for everyone, it took me some time because I wasn’t thinking about it specifically. This reply is just straight up rude and unnecessary...
Yes ive used a stylus pen at work. Im a refrigeration engineer. My phone is essential for me to calculate refrigeration and poe oil ammounts also enthalpy calcs for clean rooms and racks. The pen feature is invaluable to quickly write down on service orders these ammounts and calcs. Very valuable to me.
I had the 0.5mm for years, from school to work. It got it's sad ending when it fell, point first, compressing and pinching the opening beyond 0.5mm. I agree, you'll love the weight, the feel of the knurled finger hold, faceted body, the industrial feel. Oh great, now I'm missing the bugger. Time to visit Amazon.
I think the stylus / pencil combo might be fairly popular in Japan. Mech pencils are very popular in Japan because they need to be able to write small and detailed kanji clearly AND Japan is really tech savvy.
I wish I had the money for this. I’ve already made my rotring purchase on a .7 mm, and I like it well enough. But the 2 mm is more traditional, and useful. I took a drafting course years ago and have used my blue plastic model ever since. I like that worn metal look on your first pencil, Peter and might save up for one of those.
I second this ! Maybe he could bring all of his different shapes and lines into the face , but as you said he will do what he wants and imo he should :-)
In soviet period, in USSR, was popular mechanic pencils for enginering and design drawing. From this time, I got box of some leads with 8B. It's realy soft and I dont know thery I can bye soft leads like this. I like useng mechanic pencils for any drawing, academic or scetching and never sharp them.
Man I love you I swear. Your personality alone is a winner but your art captivates me so much. I’m typically not a huge fan of abstract art, because a lot of the time it feels kinda empty to me. Yet, somehow your style is insanely abstract and seems like you never have a plan for it yet I can always decipher it into several smaller images that resemble something or one big strange structure/ being that I can see all the parts of. I realize that probably doesn’t make any sense and I’m not describing what I mean in a way that’s very coherent but the point is somehow you draw essentially nothing and in it/ them I can see anything or everything. I also started drawing more since watching your videos because I learned from you that it’s not about having an idea and executing it every time it’s more about just putting something on the paper/ canvas regardless of whether there’s a goal or simply experimenting
Anyway the point is you’re pretty inspiring and really express the idea of expression over perfection and I think that’s a very valuable lesson for artists, whether it’s just a hobby or a profession
Something about peter keeping his lead holder for years to the point that hes smoothing parts of the grip gives me a nostalgic feeling that i cant place but am happy not to. Just makes me warm.
I have a white Rotring 0.5mm mechanical pencil that I got when I was 15; I'm turning 43 in a month. It still works beautifully, and just by looking at it you can tell I got my use out of it. It used to be my favourite pencil until I got a Pentel. Pentel mechanical pencils are perfect, even though most are plastic. I actually got two gorgeous metal Staedler mechanical pencils - which were relatively expensive - with a similar finger groove area to the ones you show in the video, but my fingers don't like it. I prefer the rubber sleeves with dents and ridges on my "cheap" plastic Pentel. They fit so well in my grip that I sort of forget I'm using a pencil to draw and not my fingers. I also have a Faber Castell lead holder, which looks a bit slimmer and less "angled" than the Rotring in the video. I guess some shapes are offensive to my hand, even though they look very elegant. Bottom line, the pencil will be worth $50 if you use it with pleasure. I paid about $5 for my favourite mechanical pencil, but I would gladly say it's worth $50 to me.
Hi.. Peter. Here in Manchester UK 100s of thousands of humans like me go underground and draw. We use mechanical pencils for a first sketch, these first drawings are then burnt in a ceremony. The flames and smoke inspire a drawing that is then done on out tablets using a stylus. A mechanical pen with a stylus would go down an absolute treat here in Manchester where there are throngs of artists ready to use them. Having the 2 in one would be ideal as our first drawing and second should be done using as exact a copy of writing instrument as possible. All the best to you Peter from us here Manchester UK.
Since you asked... I had a combo pen/pencil for years and loved it! Blue ball point ink, Red ball point ink, and .05 Graphite, & even had a small eraser. It was awesome! & It was also before everyone had smart phones & we all carried FILO Fax binders around to keep up with everything. Now I just use a Pen/Stylus combo. My current favorite is from Zebra. I like it because the stylus side is fairly slim compared to others, I can get ball point ink refills at my local pharmacy, & a whole new pen is only $9.99. I do use a special stylus to draw digitally, but for daily running around, the Zebra stylus/pen combo is great to just toss in my pocket or purse.
I love my Rotring 600 .5mm mechanical pencil, mainly for the way it looks. I don't use a 2 mm lead holder, though I do occasionally use a 5.6mm lead holder with either graphite or charcoal, with a different brand, boring lead holder. I covet to the nth degree the no-longer-made Rotring 600 fountain pen. Mainly for the way it looks. Industrialist beauty.
The best budget lead holder in my opinion thats amazing and is only $11 is the steadler mars technico 780 and for 3 years everyday I would take it with me at school and everywhere with a sketchbook and its still good as new.
I first saw the 800 series back in 1993 and went crazy over it. I bought the silver and gold fountain pen, the Roller Ball, the ball point and the mechanical pencil, all of which I still have except for the pencil which one of my kids lost, I got a replacement years later. The bad news is that I can’t use the fountain pen or the roller ball; the caps came loose with use and there’s no way of fixing it, or at least I haven’t found a way to do it. The ballpoint and the pencil still work great, but the other two were a waste of money.
Nice to know you're a coffee presser, too!. Also, you mention the cotton glove making the pencil slippery. Cut the thumb, index, and middle fingertips of the glove off or the entire finger. There is actually a rather overpriced mass-produced version of that sold as a drawing glove. As for the pencil, I can see where the price is justified with being all precision machined metal. But I am very happy with my under $20 Koh I Noor and Staedtler mechanicals and lead holders. I love that the Koh I Noors have a "dial" at the top which you can rotate to the type of lead you placed in it.
Man, I so love that French press cozy. I know it has a matching mug cozy which makes it super ultra cute! LOVE IT. Yeah, I was eyeing that holder...but couldn't justify it for myself. I already have the Steadtler ones and even the black Kohinoor holders... and even a silver 5.6mm holder and I don't even draw that much right now. The dream is alive and well however, so that's a great positive. I love how heavy and sturdy the RotRing feels. I have the pencil .5 600s and love them. Japan bought RotRing a while ago....wait, I thought Koh-i-Noor is Czech Republic. I have the Galaxy Note 10+ which comes with the stylus. To be fair I've never really used digital note taking so I really haven't been using it, but like you said, I love options. Hey, the other .5 mechanical with knurled grip that I'd recommend is the Tombow mono graph zero. I love how small the eraser is for detailed work and they aren't overly expensive.
A 2 mm lead holder and a .2 mm mechanical pencil are my daily sketchbook carries. I was actually considering this lead holder to replace my current one because of how much I enjoy my Japanese import pentel.
At the moment, the Rotring Rapid Pro in 2mm is a bit under $30 and offers similar features, although I mostly see it in black. For a much cheaper alternative (if you need a lot or you need one where it might get lost or damaged) the 2mm Rotring 300 lead holder is around $11, but it's plastic and the mechanism is different. I have a couple Rapid Pro holders that I use when I really want something nice, but I have a bunch of the 300s stashed everywhere I might need one.
My first video by 'Peter Draws' that I have seen. At first I wanted to shoot myself with his droning monotone voice. But his words were clever and his art was abstract but wonderful. And now I want coffee. And a knitted coffee sweater.
These were always referred to as Propelling Pencils when I was a boy. So much more efficient and none wasting of lead unlike a wooden pencil where by you lose so much lead when sharpening to reveal the lead to draw.
I think it's likely at the point where we can say the word "lead" has multiple meanings. When talking about a pencil "lead" people automatically know you're talking about the graphite core. And like you said, if the meaning is getting across, then language has been achieved.
If I may be pedantic, "lead" has had multiple meanings for centuries. "Lead" as in a lead pencil is probably one of the newest meanings, and comes from the fact that actual lead used to be used to draw gray/dark gray lines on a surface. Despite the fact that they replaced that with healthier (meh) graphite/clay mixtures to make the same kinds of lines didn't change the way they had been referred to for awhile by then. But.. you can "lead" a horse to water, you can "lead" in point totals in a sporting contest, a path can "lead" you to a destination (the hallway leads to his office), a lead (line) was dropped to check the depth of the water, etc., etc. Hell, I could fill two pages with all the definitions and examples using "lead."
I have a stylus pen combo. A local politician handed them out. What I do love about it is the patch of microfiber glued on the top to clean your screen. I never use a stylus, but my grandma has neuropathy and has to use one, but I buy them on Amazon and she tapes them to her iPad by a string so it stays handy.
I've been using the same Staedtler Mars Technico lead holder since 2010. Did a 6-year stint in small press comics during that time and used the same pencil throughout. Long as you don't snap them, they'll last forever. 👍 But hey.. If you've got an extra $50..
I've had a Koh-I-Noor Technigraphic Lead Holder since about 1977 and it is way better than any Staedtler Mars Technico lead holder that I've ever used. I have a 783 Mars Technico made in Germany right here and it's no comparison. The lead doesn't even retract right when I turn the holder upside down. 5611s always do. The Koh-I-Noor has 4 jaws and the Staedtler Mars only has 3. For whatever reason 4 jaws is better than 3 are. Plus the Technigraphic has a better heft to it.
Peter. I love everything you do. You honestly inspire me with all your hard work and dedication to your art. But I’m sorry. You have the voice of a man who’s always trying to hold back a burp.
Peter Draws I do genuinely actually enjoy your voice. The first videos I watched of yours were drawing your feelings, which helped me calm my mind. I know you probably hear this more than enough, but you’d be great at asmr. I understand that it’s not a pathway you wanna pursue, but I don’t think I’d be alone in the enjoyment it would provide .
I like it! Usually im a pen guy but if a lead holder was comfy enough and quality enough... I would certainly consider spending 50 bucks on one. If i didnt buy gifts already this would have been a good gift for my old man! He has been experimenting with pencils.
If you want a 0.5 or 0.7 pencil with a long cylindrical drafting nib; and want to protect the nib, carry the pencil around etc. Then you need a Rotring 800. It is too heavy and the center of gravity is towards the back. Adel Blackline comes close, is light with a low center of gravity, but the nib isn’t as long or elegant. Sure, go ahead and buy the Rotring 600. It will never leave your desk.
The stylus-pen has been really useful to me. I always have my pen, so when I’m working on my car and my hands are greasy I can look up something on my phone and keep its interface clean. Also works when cooking, plumbing, shoveling a driveway, etc.
Great video Peter. A japanese company owns Rotring now. So they might be made in japan at this point. The company being sold sucks. You might buy the Rotring mechanical pencils thinking that you are getting German engineering. And you are not. The pencils work well and they look incredible. The silver pencils are beautiful. Thanks Peter
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If I told my younger self that in 2019 I'd be watching a 17 minute long video on a pencil review ... I'd think I would've lost it.
Haha! I understand this feeling! Well written! :)
I never thought I'd be watching a close-up of paint peeling off of a pencil with commentary about it.
@@TheNajSD and yet...
Here we are.
This video has officially kicked off my mid life crisis.
Gen Xers still Rage Against Machines...
You had higher expectations for your future self than I did
Out smart the “it’s graphite” with “I prefer carbon lattice”
everybody gangsta till the layered carbon allotrope slides away
I prefer “amorphous allotrope of carbon” or “multilayer graphene composite”
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My brother: “ That was an intense sip.”
Me: “ He is an intense man.”
Hi Peter, actually the German company Rotring (from Hamburg) is owned by the American company Newell Rubbermaid. They closed the production in Germany, and those typ of mechanical pencils and leadholders are now manufactured in Japan by a company called Holbein ( funny, because it's a German name...)
Damn, that's really interesting
😕 why do all great ones get sold...kreidler rotring AEG to name a few
Thank you, I didn't know 👍😊
Interesting to know. I am a big fan of Holbein Watercolor paints and didn't know that the pencil I was using was also made by them
Wow, would have never guessed that. But it makes perfect sense because holbein is a most excellent company, like God level, just like Rotring seems to be. I have the impression neither of them are about cutting any corner. You can see it reflected in both the quality of their products 😍 and the price of them also 😭.
Had one of these pencils for over 15 years.
Also own the _matte black_ sister version.
_A thing of beauty is a joy forever_
Love the way you do the “sponsored segment”. So many content creators kind of sneak their way around it with “I just found this great website/product that I like a lot and you should too”. Just be straight with it
Dude big fan right here!! Probably in this week I binged on 3 years of your vids lol very enjoyable
Me too more or less, and definately to be continued, to Me Peter is an artists artist, I feel a lot of us may be very much alike.
This might be the most serious I've ever seen Peter. Hope everything is okay.
I think because he is trying to do an honest review. Usually if he reviews something he doesn't test it for a whole month, but in this case he did. :PP Also yess I hope everything is okayyy :o
Haha.
Im sure he's fine. He says he's in school it could be finals week so stress maybe weighing on him. Idk but i as well hope hes ok
darkmatter780 yeahh or maybe he just got done with one.. I know exactly how that can feel. Just finished all of my finals last week
He drank cofee.
As a fellow rotring fan I can also recommend the rapid pro 2 mm version. It's much cheaper and is still all metal and clicks like a mechanical pencil and has a sharpener on top.
Edit: it's like $28-30. Still really expensive but really nice
Every time someone suggests to me what I should draw, I think "If that’s what you want, YOU draw it."
4m4z0n will regularly have these holders on 1/2 off sale; I got mine for $12US
@@Sides3Sides in ops comment.. hes not telling anyone WHAT to draw. Just what to USE to draw. Incel
@@reececrawford1688 In fairness, he could have meant to reply to someone else. Also, incel has a meaning my dude. Calling someone one for doing something unrelated is kinda whack.
Bought some on Black Friday for about $13 each (a Rapid Pro and an 800). Had wanted one for a while, but I think I still prefer my Kuru Toga over them for general purpose.
Me: looks like an alien mouth
Peter: looks like an alien thingy
Hi Peter, I just wanted to say thank you. I've been kind of depressed lately, and watching your videos has helped me. I love what you do and what you create (art and videos), your an inspiration-thank you.
hang in there, dude
Feeling depressed is the pits. I hope you keep on feeling better and better and have nothing but blue skies ahead. Creating something can help sometimes.
I really love Peter's reviews, but on this pencil I have to disagree.
Actually this mechanical pencil is pretty bad for anything else than drawing for fun - and Rotring items generally aren't designed for that. If you're thinking about upgrading your pencil for architecture school or something like that, don't go for this one! Besides the fact that material gets stolen all the time, this item is way too heavy for daily use. Sometimes you need to draw for a couple of hours and you'll be really exhausted with a pencil made out of steel after just half an hour or even earlier.
The worst part about it is the way you change the lead though. If you go for 2mm graphite, simple pencils like the Koh-I-Noor Peter compared it to are way more versatile. Sharpening them is a lot easier, they are not that heavy and also last a lifetime. Faber Castell is a much better brand than Koh-I-Noor though.
Rotring items are made for engineering drawing and the brand is known to be the best manufacturer for that. However, this pencil is an exception. It's just overkill for that.
When it comes to drawing for fun, you won't regret buying this pencil though. It's great in quality and I totally agree with everything presented in this video.
meh a friend of mine bought one of those, but not for architecture, but machine building "schlosser" in austria and the reason they are amazing is their durability yyou can drop that shit or smash it with something and it will work perfectly. At least if i'm not mistaking it was a rotring lead holder that cost 50 bucks. Tried drawing with it, was meh, no need for all the steel there, but incredible for what it was designed for. Sharpening isn't a problem either cause you don't do that there
0000 I agree with some of the things that you say. But most of it is objective.
I think you'd need to either have carpal tunnel syndrome, or relatively weaker-than-average hands in order to be exhausted from using a pencil. I've had it for a while and never had a problem with it, and I draw for 2-3 hours every day, and I don't think I have particularly strong hands.
I’d have to respectfully disagree. I’ve been drawing with 600s and 800s for years and never had an exhaustion or soreness issue. I find holding paintbrushes and palettes to be more tiresome, but even then it’s not an problem because you can just shift around for 30 seconds and then you’re good for another hour. Perhaps you have some sort of muscle atrophy disorder or are just generally frail and overall physically pathetic. (Kidding, but I genuinely have not had that problem myself)
@@GuillRickard It doesn't matter what you think, but what actually is. Look, there are no twigs taking of you ain't get bees to eradicate the summer apostrophe. Hope you get it.
That french press cozy has inspired me to learn how to crochet!!
Do it. Beer cozy are cute too. My blue moon never looked better.
do it!!! it's super easy once you get the hang of it and its incredibly relaxing...i do it right before bed as a way to decompress my mind and get away from electronic screens before i sleep
Crochet??
You mean knit? :D
I tried knitting before when i was a kid at my grandmas house. Its fun hehe.
@@joshuanorris5860 crocheting and knitting are different
@@summercupcakes6 uh oh. Im confused then hahah
That thingy wasent knitted? xD
I used the Staedtler Mars Technico 780 (yes largely plastic but well made and a fraction of the cost of that battleship you've been lugging around) all through most of my schooling and it never let me down. Years later it's still going strong! Thanks for introducing your other lead holder, Peter. That one has some swagger.
You could cut the fingers off of your gloves (take them off first).
*Proceeds to sell his fingers for 50 dollars*
"maybe that's why its called rotring" I never thought about that... it blew my mind
Arthur MOLMY 🤔
Yeah lmao “rotring” in German literally translates to “red ring” thus the red ring on all their various models.
I bought this pencil 6 years ago and still using it. This is an awasome pencil, and I have never used a pencil this much before and it is totally worths it's price.
It’s mindblowing to me that he has 800k subs, doesn’t run any ads in his videos and doesn’t overly promote products.
Chaos huh he does have ads on his videos what’re you talking about
@@dre27321 not if you use TH-cam Vanced
And doesn't even know where koh i noor is from blaah :)
I feel like Peter would be a really good teacher. But you cant really teach what he draws, its just gotta be natural
Maybe a philosophy teacher, then.
Yes
@Zero Cool im saying if someone wanted to hire him so that they could draw the same type of things he could help them sure, he's a great artist and his art is not easily replicated. Im saying most people cannot replicate his work because hes very unique and has an eye for what he draws. Doesn't mean what other people draw is better or worse, im just saying his work is very unique and cant really be taught its more of a trait the person has
Rotring was bought by a Japanese company some years ago! And the production site was moved to japan so thats why your lead holder wad imported from Japan.
That is incorrect, it belongs to an American company en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotring
Edit: some things are manufactured in Japan
I’ve had my Rotring 600 with red and blue ink and a 0.7 pencil since 1996 and it’s great!
The point made at 10:14 may be the greatest thing I’ve ever heard on YT.
I feel i must defend my southern brothers since I have used their pencil in my primary school.
KOH-I-NOOR is Czech!
Czech*
@@vaclavrehak9880 Redone ;-) That's what happens when one writes a comment in a emotional haste.
@@kostek4430 Nice :D
I’m a Bohemian myself, so "Go Koh-I-nor!"
Koh-i-noor isn't near as good as Venus. The pencils are okay but personally I think scripto is better.
I sell all kinds of pencils and I ain't even into them but Koh is bottom rung
Hi Peter, the "stage freight" you mentioned is actually a known phenomenon. Medical experts call it "R.I.", or Rotring Intimidation. As a decades-old collector of Rotring implements, I can verify that I often avoid eye contact with them...for fear of judgement! They are so well engineered, and so precisely manufactured, that they seem to whisper, "What are you going to do that's worthy of me"?
Such an underestimated comment.
I've been watching this channel almost everyday for like 4 years, and every video he uploads it feels like a holiday, some old videos from 3 years feel like new, like when i see the old thumbnails i think of them as new videos i dont know why especially the plant reviews and glowing pens
Fun Fact
In Germany we call these "Druckbleistift" which would translate into "Press (from pressing) Pencil. The Name comes from "drücken" which means pressing as you have to press at the end for the lead to come out 💁♂️😂
Fun Fact: In the USA if you press a pencil and the lead automatically advances we call that a mechanical pencil. If the lead falls out due to gravity it is a lead holder. So what this guy has here is a mechanical pencil, not a lead holder. Plus I doubt his Rotring 800 would even fit into a lead sharpener. Looks too fat to me. The barrel is all wrong.
His channel is what I call a "bowl of noodles channel"
Bowl of noodles channel:
1• A channel on TH-cam that has every video uploaded that is perfect to watch while eating a bowl of noodles of all quantities. 2• A TH-cam channel that just does noodle reviews
The thing with a lead holder is that as long as you threat it nicely it will last forever and consistency is priceless.
I have been using this pencil for a few years now. Mine is black. I also have the Rotring 800 0.5mm and Rotring 600 0.7mm. Despite Peter saying it is the heaviest of the three in the video, they are quite light and well balanced. They are great and worth the money, as Peter said, if you can afford it. I am thinking of buying two more 600s because the 0.5mm and 0.7 come in red and blue, red being my favorite color. I may get a 3 in 1 instead but I'm undecided. The pencils were produced both in Japan and Germany at one point in time but it now seems Japan is the sole manufacturer. The pencil in the video is a Series 6 Rotring 600 2mm which is only produced in Japan. Series 1 of this line of pencils, produced in 1988, was the only one exclusive to Germany. Series 2, 3, 4, and 5 were produced by both countries. Hope this helps anyone trying to decide whether or not to purchase this pencil. I highly recommend you do.
I carry the same philosophy for any expensive instrument/utility and such: if it's an item that you're going to interface and interact with alot, it is worth getting the best you can afford and avoid bottom of the barrel stuff.
Few exceptions for cheaping out tho are just personal preference and trusted brands that have earned their space in the market.
Of course always be responsible with your spending and do your research before buying a product.
I like the new format! Thanks for the review Peter !
I thought using a lead holders to sketch was a rare thing. I love it. I ran across one in the drafting supply at my local hobby store. I do like to have a sharp point with mine. On the Stylus thing, people with larger fingers use them with better accuracy.
Leave it to Peter to find the pencil that possibly doesn’t exist
Peter, you should try free motion quilting. It’s basically a continuous line drawing made with thread. I’d be interested to see your style in that medium. 😊🧵
I used to use a pen/stylus hybrid with my tablet, to draw. I have it with me always to use in my bullet journal, and then if I'm bored and have my tablet on me, I can draw on that. That being said, it's more just a convenience thing because I usually also have a sketchbook with me too, and my fiance has commandeered my tablet anyway. Which is all good because the stylus and of mynpen broke. On the plus side, it's an amazing pen, so I still love it lol. Plus I got it at the wedding of one of my close friends, so it inspires a very good memory :).
Man, that thing looks great, and I trust you that it feels, and smells delicious. But yeah, steep price. And of course it's a lead holder, the mark is just as good as any old lead holder.
So alltough attractive, I won't spend that much cash on a fancy way to hold a graphite stick. (Also bought a Faber Castle lead holder recently, not $50, but not cheap either, slim sleek desig , nice enough).
Thanks to you, I've tried drawing with a lead holder and I loved it! You are probably my favorite artist on TH-cam
I hesitate spending over $20 on a pen to use For drawing and I do have a lot of dip nibs that I have used for years but never one for $50 and never for a single pencil or clutch! Koh-I-noor is a Czech Republic company but they might have an Italian factory, I do enjoy their color pencils and soft (medium) pastels! You are truly talented and quite inspirational in your videos! Thank you for sharing your point of view!
I have the .5 mm silver rotring , I love it and enjoy it .
Also I am a machinist so I can appreciate the quality in manufacturing of these pencils .
Now I must buy the 2.0mm
Just love to watch you! One of my FAVORITE art channels on YT. Now that I see you have a DAFT PUNK coffee mug you ranked a billion times higher! Lol. Love the mug👍🏻👍🏻💞
I’ve had a realllyyyyyy bad terrible day. You’re always posting when I need it most!!
japan is a real mechanical pencil wonderland, I wouldnt be surprised if most specialized pencils if not available locally would be coming from japan just because the use of them there is so high, and cute pencil pouches uwu
I bought one of these! I love the weight, texture, and overall prowess it has. 60 bucks well spent! (Canadian lol)
Yeah $50 is expensive… but I NEED ITTTT
Premium but..
I also have a 800 the 0.5 mm for several years now,it is everything you say!
But.. when I use it outdoors in sunny weather, the gold plated tip reflects an gold auro on the paper.
This is extremely disturbing, really. Otherwise it is the best and most used graphite pen I own.
Premium video!
Took one look at the Rotring and knew for someone like me with a heavy hand it would be worth the money. Of course I will never take it out of the house. It would be too expensive to lose. Had that experience, let's say multiple times, with my Apple pencil.
Consider putting a lanyard around the pocket clip.
dude when I have to get away from the nonsense of TH-cam I click on you...because you’re honest and fun. Thanks man
Also you should get into mechanical drawing and cad because it really is satisfactory when you complete something very rigid and discipline. It also involves more tools which are great. I would draw a mechanical part that might go in a motor or something and then after I turned it it and got graded I turned it to an art piece...two birds ya know. ,’)
Do the kids in your school realize how lucky they are to be near such talent?
So I’m German and I think the name rotring comes from the two word rot=red ring=ring, explaining the red plastic ring.
This may be obvious but it just came to my mind
Same in Dutch (I'm Dutch Australian). Rood (pronounced rote) means red. Hence the red ring, Rotring. Just got the connection watching this vid.
Ohhhhhh so thats what he meant :) thanks
It’s obvious. So delete your comment.
galleyman
your comment is unnecessary. i am highly triggered and offended for no reason at all. therefore i demand for you to delete your comment.
galleyman come on man, this may not be obvious for everyone, it took me some time because I wasn’t thinking about it specifically.
This reply is just straight up rude and unnecessary...
Yes ive used a stylus pen at work. Im a refrigeration engineer. My phone is essential for me to calculate refrigeration and poe oil ammounts also enthalpy calcs for clean rooms and racks. The pen feature is invaluable to quickly write down on service orders these ammounts and calcs. Very valuable to me.
I had the 0.5mm for years, from school to work. It got it's sad ending when it fell, point first, compressing and pinching the opening beyond 0.5mm. I agree, you'll love the weight, the feel of the knurled finger hold, faceted body, the industrial feel. Oh great, now I'm missing the bugger. Time to visit Amazon.
I think the stylus / pencil combo might be fairly popular in Japan. Mech pencils are very popular in Japan because they need to be able to write small and detailed kanji clearly AND Japan is really tech savvy.
I wish I had the money for this. I’ve already made my rotring purchase on a .7 mm, and I like it well enough. But the 2 mm is more traditional, and useful. I took a drafting course years ago and have used my blue plastic model ever since. I like that worn metal look on your first pencil, Peter and might save up for one of those.
Hope your finals went well Peter!!
In Canada this bad boy is $138 dollars now!!!!!! Gadddaaaamn.
I know you're going to do what you want, but a long time fan here would love to see you study realistic faces/anatomy. Thanks!
I second this ! Maybe he could bring all of his different shapes and lines into the face , but as you said he will do what he wants and imo he should :-)
In soviet period, in USSR, was popular mechanic pencils for enginering and design drawing. From this time, I got box of some leads with 8B. It's realy soft and I dont know thery I can bye soft leads like this. I like useng mechanic pencils for any drawing, academic or scetching and never sharp them.
Man I love you I swear. Your personality alone is a winner but your art captivates me so much. I’m typically not a huge fan of abstract art, because a lot of the time it feels kinda empty to me. Yet, somehow your style is insanely abstract and seems like you never have a plan for it yet I can always decipher it into several smaller images that resemble something or one big strange structure/ being that I can see all the parts of. I realize that probably doesn’t make any sense and I’m not describing what I mean in a way that’s very coherent but the point is somehow you draw essentially nothing and in it/ them I can see anything or everything.
I also started drawing more since watching your videos because I learned from you that it’s not about having an idea and executing it every time it’s more about just putting something on the paper/ canvas regardless of whether there’s a goal or simply experimenting
Anyway the point is you’re pretty inspiring and really express the idea of expression over perfection and I think that’s a very valuable lesson for artists, whether it’s just a hobby or a profession
Wow, a Daft Punk mug. Awesome thing to have while drawing!
Something about peter keeping his lead holder for years to the point that hes smoothing parts of the grip gives me a nostalgic feeling that i cant place but am happy not to. Just makes me warm.
I have a white Rotring 0.5mm mechanical pencil that I got when I was 15; I'm turning 43 in a month. It still works beautifully, and just by looking at it you can tell I got my use out of it. It used to be my favourite pencil until I got a Pentel. Pentel mechanical pencils are perfect, even though most are plastic. I actually got two gorgeous metal Staedler mechanical pencils - which were relatively expensive - with a similar finger groove area to the ones you show in the video, but my fingers don't like it. I prefer the rubber sleeves with dents and ridges on my "cheap" plastic Pentel. They fit so well in my grip that I sort of forget I'm using a pencil to draw and not my fingers. I also have a Faber Castell lead holder, which looks a bit slimmer and less "angled" than the Rotring in the video. I guess some shapes are offensive to my hand, even though they look very elegant.
Bottom line, the pencil will be worth $50 if you use it with pleasure. I paid about $5 for my favourite mechanical pencil, but I would gladly say it's worth $50 to me.
Now this lead holder is $70 on Amazon - you got it for a steal, Peter! 😁
Hi.. Peter. Here in Manchester UK 100s of thousands of humans like me go underground and draw. We use mechanical pencils for a first sketch, these first drawings are then burnt in a ceremony. The flames and smoke inspire a drawing that is then done on out tablets using a stylus. A mechanical pen with a stylus would go down an absolute treat here in Manchester where there are throngs of artists ready to use them. Having the 2 in one would be ideal as our first drawing and second should be done using as exact a copy of writing instrument as possible. All the best to you Peter from us here Manchester UK.
I have a lead holder, all plastic, 2mm, 2B, with the sharpener tip. I paid BRL$7,00 for it, about US$2,00. I love it.
Aww Peter I love the stylus combo pens lol
I love the way your confidence and looseness has increased with the pencil . . the work is looking great
That thing looks beautiful and I've been looking for a replacement drawing pencil and a late birthday gift for myself.🥰
Since you asked... I had a combo pen/pencil for years and loved it! Blue ball point ink, Red ball point ink, and .05 Graphite, & even had a small eraser. It was awesome! & It was also before everyone had smart phones & we all carried FILO Fax binders around to keep up with everything. Now I just use a Pen/Stylus combo. My current favorite is from Zebra. I like it because the stylus side is fairly slim compared to others, I can get ball point ink refills at my local pharmacy, & a whole new pen is only $9.99. I do use a special stylus to draw digitally, but for daily running around, the Zebra stylus/pen combo is great to just toss in my pocket or purse.
I love my Rotring 600 .5mm mechanical pencil, mainly for the way it looks. I don't use a 2 mm lead holder, though I do occasionally use a 5.6mm lead holder with either graphite or charcoal, with a different brand, boring lead holder. I covet to the nth degree the no-longer-made Rotring 600 fountain pen. Mainly for the way it looks. Industrialist beauty.
The best budget lead holder in my opinion thats amazing and is only $11 is the steadler mars technico 780 and for 3 years everyday I would take it with me at school and everywhere with a sketchbook and its still good as new.
I have two Rotrings myself, the 600 mechanical pencil and the Rapid pro ball point pen, love them
I first saw the 800 series back in 1993 and went crazy over it. I bought the silver and gold fountain pen, the Roller Ball, the ball point and the mechanical pencil, all of which I still have except for the pencil which one of my kids lost, I got a replacement years later. The bad news is that I can’t use the fountain pen or the roller ball; the caps came loose with use and there’s no way of fixing it, or at least I haven’t found a way to do it. The ballpoint and the pencil still work great, but the other two were a waste of money.
I need this mans level of chill
Rotring owner here. Buy them all. They are amazing.
Nice to know you're a coffee presser, too!. Also, you mention the cotton glove making the pencil slippery. Cut the thumb, index, and middle fingertips of the glove off or the entire finger. There is actually a rather overpriced mass-produced version of that sold as a drawing glove.
As for the pencil, I can see where the price is justified with being all precision machined metal. But I am very happy with my under $20 Koh I Noor and Staedtler mechanicals and lead holders. I love that the Koh I Noors have a "dial" at the top which you can rotate to the type of lead you placed in it.
Pete is like an artist version for ASMR that has descriptions in details of all the products he uses and also shows quality drawings step by step.
Man, I so love that French press cozy. I know it has a matching mug cozy which makes it super ultra cute! LOVE IT.
Yeah, I was eyeing that holder...but couldn't justify it for myself. I already have the Steadtler ones and even the black Kohinoor holders... and even a silver 5.6mm holder and I don't even draw that much right now. The dream is alive and well however, so that's a great positive.
I love how heavy and sturdy the RotRing feels. I have the pencil .5 600s and love them.
Japan bought RotRing a while ago....wait, I thought Koh-i-Noor is Czech Republic.
I have the Galaxy Note 10+ which comes with the stylus. To be fair I've never really used digital note taking so I really haven't been using it, but like you said, I love options.
Hey, the other .5 mechanical with knurled grip that I'd recommend is the Tombow mono graph zero. I love how small the eraser is for detailed work and they aren't overly expensive.
The most I use the s-pen for is to magnify things I'm reading online. Lol
I might go for that Tombow. Thanks for the recommendation!
A 2 mm lead holder and a .2 mm mechanical pencil are my daily sketchbook carries. I was actually considering this lead holder to replace my current one because of how much I enjoy my Japanese import pentel.
At the moment, the Rotring Rapid Pro in 2mm is a bit under $30 and offers similar features, although I mostly see it in black. For a much cheaper alternative (if you need a lot or you need one where it might get lost or damaged) the 2mm Rotring 300 lead holder is around $11, but it's plastic and the mechanism is different. I have a couple Rapid Pro holders that I use when I really want something nice, but I have a bunch of the 300s stashed everywhere I might need one.
Cool, I'm a Rotring guy, they have the best vintage triangle (orange transparent).
God bless.
My first video by 'Peter Draws' that I have seen. At first I wanted to shoot myself with his droning monotone voice. But his words were clever and his art was abstract but wonderful. And now I want coffee. And a knitted coffee sweater.
I have had a rotring 600 0.5 mm mechanical pencil in black for a few years now. It is honestly the best pencil I have ever used.
ITS DISCONTINUED. ITS AMAZING BUT APPARENTLY IT WASNT WHAT ROTRING NEEDED
These were always referred to as Propelling Pencils when I was a boy. So much more efficient and none wasting of lead unlike a wooden pencil where by you lose so much lead when sharpening to reveal the lead to draw.
Thanks for doing the review, it’s the first decent review I find for this. I had already bought it but it is nice still.
I think it's likely at the point where we can say the word "lead" has multiple meanings. When talking about a pencil "lead" people automatically know you're talking about the graphite core. And like you said, if the meaning is getting across, then language has been achieved.
If I may be pedantic, "lead" has had multiple meanings for centuries. "Lead" as in a lead pencil is probably one of the newest meanings, and comes from the fact that actual lead used to be used to draw gray/dark gray lines on a surface. Despite the fact that they replaced that with healthier (meh) graphite/clay mixtures to make the same kinds of lines didn't change the way they had been referred to for awhile by then. But.. you can "lead" a horse to water, you can "lead" in point totals in a sporting contest, a path can "lead" you to a destination (the hallway leads to his office), a lead (line) was dropped to check the depth of the water, etc., etc. Hell, I could fill two pages with all the definitions and examples using "lead."
I have a stylus pen combo. A local politician handed them out. What I do love about it is the patch of microfiber glued on the top to clean your screen. I never use a stylus, but my grandma has neuropathy and has to use one, but I buy them on Amazon and she tapes them to her iPad by a string so it stays handy.
I've been using the same Staedtler Mars Technico lead holder since 2010. Did a 6-year stint in small press comics during that time and used the same pencil throughout. Long as you don't snap them, they'll last forever. 👍
But hey.. If you've got an extra $50..
I've had a Koh-I-Noor Technigraphic Lead Holder since about 1977 and it is way better than any Staedtler Mars Technico lead holder that I've ever used. I have a 783 Mars Technico made in Germany right here and it's no comparison. The lead doesn't even retract right when I turn the holder upside down. 5611s always do. The Koh-I-Noor has 4 jaws and the Staedtler Mars only has 3. For whatever reason 4 jaws is better than 3 are. Plus the Technigraphic has a better heft to it.
Peter, if you like the KOR-I-NOOR get a Alvin PRO-MATIC lead holder, it's pretty sweet.
I have the same pencil in .5mm all black and i love it. Been using it for years from college papers to drawings. It is a really nice pencil.
Peter. I love everything you do. You honestly inspire me with all your hard work and dedication to your art. But I’m sorry. You have the voice of a man who’s always trying to hold back a burp.
but I let out the burp in this video
Peter Draws fair point, do you commonly hold back on your burps? 😂
@@aidanangel113 no I always let them out, I don't know why my voice sounds the way it does
Peter Draws I do genuinely actually enjoy your voice. The first videos I watched of yours were drawing your feelings, which helped me calm my mind. I know you probably hear this more than enough, but you’d be great at asmr. I understand that it’s not a pathway you wanna pursue, but I don’t think I’d be alone in the enjoyment it would provide .
I like it! Usually im a pen guy but if a lead holder was comfy enough and quality enough... I would certainly consider spending 50 bucks on one.
If i didnt buy gifts already this would have been a good gift for my old man! He has been experimenting with pencils.
If you want a 0.5 or 0.7 pencil with a long cylindrical drafting nib; and want to protect the nib, carry the pencil around etc. Then you need a Rotring 800. It is too heavy and the center of gravity is towards the back. Adel Blackline comes close, is light with a low center of gravity, but the nib isn’t as long or elegant. Sure, go ahead and buy the Rotring 600. It will never leave your desk.
The stylus-pen has been really useful to me. I always have my pen, so when I’m working on my car and my hands are greasy I can look up something on my phone and keep its interface clean. Also works when cooking, plumbing, shoveling a driveway, etc.
Great video Peter. A japanese company owns Rotring now. So they might be made in japan at this point. The company being sold sucks. You might buy the Rotring mechanical pencils thinking that you are getting German engineering. And you are not. The pencils work well and they look incredible. The silver pencils are beautiful. Thanks Peter
I bought a rotring mechanical pencil a while back, I love it.
Should also be good for drawing on canvas.
The red band = Engineering / Architecture cred. Also looks nicer than the staedtler standard we all use.
Man, i bought this pencil as a present myself for my high school graduation. Now I'm doing a masters degree and still with me.
Awesome video!!! Love the coffee breaks!!!