Thank you for making this video. My grandparents where Ukrainian and now I know where their love for Anarchism came from. Also it explains why my father always was so proud of our Cossack heritage. Thanks again!
@@frenchempire9471 Socialism is a society in which the workers own the means of production through control of the government or co-op style democratic management. Socialism as an ideology opposes oligarchy.
Mother Anarchy Loves Her Sons is such a bop lmao, I almost used it in my video on the Khmelnytsky Uprising but I didn't want to make anyone think I was trying to paint Cossacks as Anarchists
@@TacticalAnt420I mean, a lot of artists are left wing, and use their art to express their discontent, so it was quite likely that great composers would eventually write left wing music. Same goes for other forms of art.
"Canada has the world's largest Ukrainian population outside of Ukraine and Russia. As a senator from Minnesota, a state with a large Ukrainian-American community, I understand how important it is that Canada works with us to stand up to Russian aggression in Ukraine" --Amy Klobuchar
I live in Winnipeg in Canada. Ukrainian writing is all over the city, particularly the north end. We have a credit union called Carpathian Credit Union whose signs are bilingual English/Ukrainian. The Ukrainian Labour Temple in Winnipeg played a huge part of our labour history and was the site of organization of the famous Winnipeg General Strike. Winnipeg has a very special relationship with Ukraine.
Thank you for giving me a look into anarchism as a system of ordinance. I never knew that an anarchist society operated on such a large scale in the modern world. Slava Ukraini!
Thank you for this video. Today most people overlook the aftermatch of ww1, consider it just as a "new nations were born after the former empires died" sidenote and don't aware of how messy everything was. And, when will the 3rd part of Quebec be posted?
What coincidence. I was re-watching your videos just these past few days, finishing the most recent one less than an hour before this video was released. And about a topic I have big interest in too. Probably my biggest surprise here is that K&G is actually participating in a cross-channel collaboration project for once.
Well done. An accurate look at Makhno's heroic struggle and how anarchism grew from solid roots. It makes me happy to see honest history offered on TH-cam. And an appearance by Yugopnik is the cherry on top.
Was glad to help you Ravignon 😄 once peace will come back, food is on me mate. Thank you for the video. Edit: don’t worry I’ll make my voice extra deep next time for your video
12:50 It is kind of a misnomer to refer to Muscovite society as "feudal", this is something that later Soviet historians retroactively inserted into Russian history to make it more comparable with Marxist history of Western Europe and Marx himself was highly critical of inserting feudalism into Russian history. The system was oppressive, but very different.
Слава Україні Loved the vid. It's hard to find stuff on Makhno generally. Also random trivia, in the polish language "soviet" is still named after "rada", the adjective being "radziecki" for example
Such quality and original content. Your channel deserves it's place among the most popular TH-cam history channels for sure. Keep up the excellent work.
I think there was one elements to the history that was missed here, the impact of Viking Raiders from Sweden and Denmark down the Dnieper from about the 8th century to the 11th century.
Thank you for your comment! When it comes down to Viking impact, we had to consider making video more compact so it slipped under our radar. Moreover, the impact of Vikings on societal developments in Rus' is a subject of debate.
@@onecko1124 fair enough, I wasn't making any statement on the exact historical impact or it's magnitude since (although I have Jewish Ukrainian ancestry) I am not completely familiar with the inner workings of Ukrainian cultural formation. I just know that Viking Raiders were quite acting in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea and I thought that was a hole in the timelines that wasn't mentioned.
Another great video coming from you, no surprise! Truly wish i could meet you if you ever come to Quebec. Thank you for this #ProjectUkraine initiative, it is much needed in those times as the anti-Ukrainian disinformation is very strong and reach very far. Slava Ukraini! (You should have mentionned this expression came up in the 1910-20s to counter the made up argument it comes from nazi collaborators in WWII! Would be worth a slight edit!)
This is the most interesting part of Ukrainian history to me. There are still Ukrainian anarchist groups fighting in Ukraine risking severe torture and death like Rev Dia.
Ukrainian Jew here. The point about Russian Israelis is completely wrong. Russification has nothing to do with it. The background is that after the collapse of the Soviet Union many people emigrated, including many Jews. This was hardly or not at all possible before. Many Jews went to the USA or to Europe, but many others went to Israel. But those see themselves only second as Russians, first they are Jews. The reason why Israel has so many Russian-speaking inhabitants today is simply that many Jews were murdered or fled by the Nazis in Europe. This did not happen in the former Soviet Union. Stalin also had plans for the deportation of Jews, but died before he could implement them. That is why there was such a large migration movement to Israel after the opening of the borders in the early 90s.
Slava Ukraini! Let the horses run free on the wild steppe and be free from those whom would gut her and demand that she has been and always will be Russian.
Great video! One thing though. Gromada means a community, group in ukrainian. And mir means peace or world in russian. So I found it strange that you put equality sign between them.
When I was in high school, I was eager to hear 'bout the Makhno and the Black Army, but no, the Ministry of Education made us listen about some boring dudes who tried to form a government but were so lame even Germans didn't want them as puppets. Quite sad, to be honest.
This is one of the best videos on historical Anarchism I've seen, yet there is a dearth of good videos on the subject and way more needs to be done. I still don't understand how a ragtag group of trade-unionists, gutter-punks, and heroin addicts are supposed to run a complex civilization, but I'm open to hearing how it could be done.
The Dutch being western European also use raad. Raadhuis, gemeenteraad translate to Town hall or community/town council, raadsman is counselor or advisor. Ik weet geen raad, I don't know what to do. Onraad means trouble. a kroeg is a pub/tavern/bar.
Great video. Can I make an unsolicated suggestion that you changing your channel icon? Channel icons need to be easily reconizable and related to your channel's content. Imo the anime image you have is neither easily recognizable nor does it accurately represent your channel's content.
If you look at my dashboard you'll see I also make streams with a Vtuber model -- but you're right. Finding a logo is a bit of a complicated task and I am not wholly done with it XD
Not sure if you’ll see this, but I think you did a great job with the video! Do you have the versions of the songs you used in the background? I know most of them, but not the particular versions used in this video
Bakunin was both a self-described Anarchist and a self-described nationalist. He believed oppressed peoples like poles, the Irish, and Ukrainians had a right to declare independence and throw off the shackles of imperialism and colonialism. He would prefer that those governments then move towards anarchism but one step at a time. Most anarchist today are internationalist or they would rather cram every anarchist community into a globalist/international project. But Bakunin realized that if you want to give power down to the local level then you are necessarily not a globalist or an internationalist.
@@onecko1124 Marxism really polluted and corrupted Anarchism. Very often Anarchists get dragged into supporting communism, under the guise of 'anarcho-communism' but b/c communism is built on a litany of false assumptions (namely Hegelian dialectics) it always collapses into a ruthless, totalitarian state. Anarchists get tricked by Tankies and typically end up some of the first people to get killed in the power consolidation phase. Time and time again we see the same cycle occur with 'revolutions' but some idiots somewhere else just say "well REAL communism has never been tried". Yup, and no ones ever ridden a real unicorn either. Fantasy land logic used by deceitful tyrants. It's a horrid shame that legitimate Anarchist schools of thought are so bogged down in those lurid, twisted lies.
Slava Ukraini. As a Ukrainian I dislike the figure of Makhno, since he sowed division in the times of crucial importance for the Ukrainian state and even sided with the Bolsheviks in trying to dismantle the Ukrainian National Republic. That being said, you've made a great and well researched video on his ideology and it's place in the independence war, big thanks for that!
8:04 In Romania we have "sfat" which means "advice" which has been used as "Sfatul Ţării" by the Moldavian Democratic Republic before joining Romania, "Sfatul bătrânilor" a pre-medieval organisation in the country and "Sfatul popular" during USSR influence. No clue how this didn't manage to spread into south slavic countries.
Also, has anyone teased out the various political factions that can swing the nation towards a republic v autocratic or authoritarian governance? I figure the war pushes any discussion into the background until combat ends.
@@RavignonCh Ah, cool! I've been binge-watching the guy. I want to discuss a free non-usury/commodity currency I have developed to incentivise creating sustainably. Yes, this sounds cheesy like I am selling a crypto, but this misses the point. So hard to suggest something different, to then get 'is it a crypto' and all the sht that comes with that. Anyway, the insight is really amazing. he easily illustrates the crap politics and religions are sold WITH usury money. Blows my mind that people follow this usury sht. It's great he has so much exposure with almost half a million subscribers. It's perplexing that PewDiePie has 111M! Incomprehensible. People use be so lonely to want to watch someone like that. Best of luck with your channel!
I am using a historical term ^^ libertarian communism is a broad brush that back then could be used interchangeably with syndicalists, anarchists and agrarianists. You can find this term in a lot of books discussing this period, as in the XIX century communism and socialism were used interchangeably -- you can check for example someone like Joseph Déjacque who used "anti-authoritarian communism" to refer to something we could call anarchocommunism today. The differentiation became relevant as a way to distinguish people from the Sinosoviet types less than 100 years ago -- where communism very much had a "face" in certain countries and the Left Opposition sought for alternative names amidst the Red Scare and later liberalization.
Most of the cities founded by the Russian empire are a myth. There already existed cities, they were simply renamed. For example, salt from the Middle Ages was mined on the site of Odessa, and in the 15th century a fortress and a port were built. Mariuopol was the port-fort of Domakh on the Kalmius River and on the coast of the Sea of Azva in the 16th century. 5 centuries have passed and the fort is still working against the barbarians. Keterinoslav it New Kodak.
Well Mahkno was mostly just a military leader, the actual running of the political/economic system was actually done by workers councils, which seemed to work fine for a society organized into agricultural communes. I doubt the system would have been able to extend to an industrial society
Yes. Communism requires a state, a really really big state that typically needs to kill all the people who disagree with communism before it can even begin with it's Marxist project. Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism and similar schools of thought are more on the Anarchism side of the spectrum. You've probably seen the Political Compass graph. Anarchism would be basically the bottom most line, no state what so ever. Libertarianism is just a notch above that but on the right side of the economics line where as communism is SUPPOSEDLY a notch above but on the left side of economics. Communism in practice is always totalitarian so ends up much, much further away. Anarchism as a general term is pretty damn broad, there's LOTS of sub categories and flavors. Anarcho-communism is a popular one online (as sorta a rebuff of the totalitarian nightmares Communism in practice produces) but realistically it's just a restatement of the original Marxist thought that spawned Leninism and would slam right into the same walls that required totalitarianism to accomplish. Have to kill everyone who doesn't agree with you to get your perfect little utopia. Anarcho-capitalism is sometimes portrayed in media as the sci-fi Cyberpunk corpo-fascist state, but that's just a bastardized misrepresentation for the most part. Such sci-fi Megacorps would inherently be the government and the system would therefore by definition not be anarchism b/c of the presence of a state. Medieval Iceland had a bizarre system where there was no lords or kings but lots of little mercenary outfits that would compete for the role of a more traditional feudal baron or lord. Worked out to be very effective at maintaining the normal government role of monopoly of force (without being a monopoly) while being entirely voluntary and bound to the needs of the clients (the citizens). The system broke down when the whole Christianization stuff swept across Iceland and centuries of norms (and the Pagan religion) went out the window. Now if you were to ask an Anarcho-communist what they thought of Anarcho-capitalism, they'd call it not real anarchism whereas many anarchists think that anarcho-communism is flat out an oxymoron. Not surprising tho since Anarchists can't ever agree with each other over how to define 'Anarchism' let alone flesh out the internal divisions. To be quite honest, Communism is closer to Fascism, in fact Fascism is basically just nationalistic Communism whereas Communism in it's idealized form is a Globalist ideology. That in turn is part of why Communism never works as advertised, it's never a global revolution and the revolutionary party is very rarely the ideology of the majority of a population. So the whole experiment is doomed from the start and the people are left with nothing but a despotic nightmare regime that just pays lip-service to 'the workers'. Beyond small scale, fully voluntary communes of diehard believers, it always implodes. Even in those cases they have the awful track record of devolving into cults of personality and de facto dictatorships. The lovely thing about Libertarian and Classical Liberal systems is a group is perfectly free to set up their own commune internally and have at it. No other systems outside of the bottom right quadrant is exactly tolerant of a competing systems existing within the larger system. The bottom right quadrant is primarily concerned with letting people do what they please and only really objecting when conflict between two parties arises. The idealized Liberal Constitutional Democratic-Republic the US attempts to refine, and as of recent years attempts to salvage would fall under this 'Classical Liberal' camp. Anyway, I hope this long, somewhat tangential comment sums up why classical liberalism is a better ally to anarchy than communism. I'm looking forward to all the hateful comments in response to this, lol.
liberals left their ideals of liberalism behind in faovur of capitalims and facism through neoliberalism and the idea that neoliberalism is immortal, as that will lead to facism
Certainly not. Anarchists *are* communists. Simply not statist or Marxist ones. Essentially the same goal with a radically different approach. Liberals in both the philosophical and modern political sense have a reduced understanding of liberty and value property and domination.
Thank you for making this video. My grandparents where Ukrainian and now I know where their love for Anarchism came from. Also it explains why my father always was so proud of our Cossack heritage. Thanks again!
@Leo da Vinci "Makhnovshchina... Black army of our partisans...
Who wanted to drive away the tyrants forever from Ukraine."
meanwhile western "leftists": "nO mOrE WEApoNs to ukRaiNE"... solidarity - let anarchism rise again!
they dont represent all leftists in the west but im sorry that theyve become so prominent in being against defending a democratic country
@@goose9515There are no democracies under capitalism
@@ChatGPT_ChatbotTesttheir is the democracy that may pave to oligarchy. Socialism paints an oligarchy immediately
@@frenchempire9471 Socialism is a society in which the workers own the means of production through control of the government or co-op style democratic management. Socialism as an ideology opposes oligarchy.
@@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest it's too optimistic in its doctrine, or just has never worked yet, because in no example yet has their nit been an oligarchy
I hope you all enjoyed my contribution to this video! Enjoyed working on this great project! 👍
Mother Anarchy Loves Her Sons is such a bop lmao, I almost used it in my video on the Khmelnytsky Uprising but I didn't want to make anyone think I was trying to paint Cossacks as Anarchists
@@screwstatists7324 I don’t get it
Honestly leftist music is great. Anarchist, syndicalist, communist and the likes have great composers!
@@TacticalAnt420I mean, a lot of artists are left wing, and use their art to express their discontent, so it was quite likely that great composers would eventually write left wing music. Same goes for other forms of art.
to be honest, after spending about 300 hours learning about cossacks and ukrainian history, i believe the cossacks were in fact "proto-anarchists"
"Canada has the world's largest Ukrainian population outside of Ukraine and Russia. As a senator from Minnesota, a state with a large Ukrainian-American community, I understand how important it is that Canada works with us to stand up to Russian aggression in Ukraine"
--Amy Klobuchar
Klobuchar is a Slavic surname for sure, not sure Ukrainian but maybe.
Not a big fan of her but damn that’s pretty cool. Maybe she ain’t so bad 😂
I live in Winnipeg in Canada. Ukrainian writing is all over the city, particularly the north end. We have a credit union called Carpathian Credit Union whose signs are bilingual English/Ukrainian. The Ukrainian Labour Temple in Winnipeg played a huge part of our labour history and was the site of organization of the famous Winnipeg General Strike. Winnipeg has a very special relationship with Ukraine.
My friend is 3rd generation Ukrainian immigrant to Canada. They really are the big center for Ukrainians
this is SO inspiring. the ghost of st. paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was a great honour working on such a great project! Glad to have contributed to it. Hope this was interesting for many people.
Slava Ukraini!
Heroiam Slava!
Hi, cannot find your twitter. May I have a link?
Thank you for giving me a look into anarchism as a system of ordinance. I never knew that an anarchist society operated on such a large scale in the modern world. Slava Ukraini!
Freedom or Death, as Ukrainians say 😇🇺🇦🇨🇦🌻. Thank you for this work.
It was a great honor to participate. Keep up the amazing work!
Beautifully crafted video. It’s clear a lot of time was invested into this piece, and it’s greatly appreciated!
Very proud to be part of #ProjectUkraine =) amazing videos by all the great content creators! 🇺🇦
Thank you for this video. Today most people overlook the aftermatch of ww1, consider it just as a "new nations were born after the former empires died" sidenote and don't aware of how messy everything was.
And, when will the 3rd part of Quebec be posted?
Somewhen this year ^^
@@RavignonCh kind of late, but it's seem that at least it would be around 2023 :D
@@vaninhhuu3215 Yeah LOL
"Anarchia mama" the Ukrainian Anarchists really had the catchiest music
It's great learning about some of these new channels via these collabs and getting to know fellow TH-camrs!
What coincidence. I was re-watching your videos just these past few days, finishing the most recent one less than an hour before this video was released. And about a topic I have big interest in too. Probably my biggest surprise here is that K&G is actually participating in a cross-channel collaboration project for once.
Thank you. The idea that there is something as a "consent to being governed" is new to me. Just that alone made it worth for me watching this video.
That introduction is one of the best I've ever seen sheesh.
It's satisfying, has context, and is an amazing transition. I just love it.
What an awesome vid! Between this and the history of Quebec videos, I’m so glad Kraut gave you those shoutouts. Keep it up!
Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦
Great stuff I've always loved your work man and Its great to have someone so talented working to raise money for such an important cause
This is a great political analysis clearly well researched and refreshingly balanced on perspectives. Keep it up!
Thanks you! I as Lithuanian have many friends in Ukraine and wanted to learn more about Ukrainian history
Well done. An accurate look at Makhno's heroic struggle and how anarchism grew from solid roots. It makes me happy to see honest history offered on TH-cam. And an appearance by Yugopnik is the cherry on top.
i really like this ukraine project! help battle disinformation and help people in the now. thank you for making this video
Was glad to help you Ravignon 😄 once peace will come back, food is on me mate. Thank you for the video.
Edit: don’t worry I’ll make my voice extra deep next time for your video
12:50 It is kind of a misnomer to refer to Muscovite society as "feudal", this is something that later Soviet historians retroactively inserted into Russian history to make it more comparable with Marxist history of Western Europe and Marx himself was highly critical of inserting feudalism into Russian history. The system was oppressive, but very different.
It has been interesting discovering some new channels via this playlist!
Слава Україні
Loved the vid. It's hard to find stuff on Makhno generally. Also random trivia, in the polish language "soviet" is still named after "rada", the adjective being "radziecki" for example
The same in ukrainian, actually. The adjective is "радянський (radyansyky)"
Excellent to see a video on Ukrainian anarchism!
Such quality and original content. Your channel deserves it's place among the most popular TH-cam history channels for sure. Keep up the excellent work.
Ukrainian Anarchism was one of anarchism's peaks. Hope we can peak again
Ukraine: exist
Russia: it's free real estate
I think there was one elements to the history that was missed here, the impact of Viking Raiders from Sweden and Denmark down the Dnieper from about the 8th century to the 11th century.
Thank you for your comment! When it comes down to Viking impact, we had to consider making video more compact so it slipped under our radar. Moreover, the impact of Vikings on societal developments in Rus' is a subject of debate.
@@onecko1124 fair enough, I wasn't making any statement on the exact historical impact or it's magnitude since (although I have Jewish Ukrainian ancestry) I am not completely familiar with the inner workings of Ukrainian cultural formation. I just know that Viking Raiders were quite acting in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea and I thought that was a hole in the timelines that wasn't mentioned.
I also have this ancestry! But I'm in Russia so I kinda learn that. We may touch that in another video, but thats not going to happen soon.
Awesome work as always, really great to see your channel grow!
Slava Ukraini!
Дякую за поширення відомостей про нашу історію англомовному світу.
Another awesome video again. Hopefully your channel keeps growing!
Another great video coming from you, no surprise!
Truly wish i could meet you if you ever come to Quebec.
Thank you for this #ProjectUkraine initiative, it is much needed in those times as the anti-Ukrainian disinformation is very strong and reach very far.
Slava Ukraini! (You should have mentionned this expression came up in the 1910-20s to counter the made up argument it comes from nazi collaborators in WWII! Would be worth a slight edit!)
This is the most interesting part of Ukrainian history to me. There are still Ukrainian anarchist groups fighting in Ukraine risking severe torture and death like Rev Dia.
So very well put together. Thank you from Texas
Slava Ukraini! Keep up the great work everyone!
Power breeds parasites, long live Anarchy! 🏴
Thanks for your work ! It's really good-detailed and accurate for non-ukrainian.
Ukrainian Jew here. The point about Russian Israelis is completely wrong. Russification has nothing to do with it. The background is that after the collapse of the Soviet Union many people emigrated, including many Jews. This was hardly or not at all possible before. Many Jews went to the USA or to Europe, but many others went to Israel. But those see themselves only second as Russians, first they are Jews.
The reason why Israel has so many Russian-speaking inhabitants today is simply that many Jews were murdered or fled by the Nazis in Europe. This did not happen in the former Soviet Union. Stalin also had plans for the deportation of Jews, but died before he could implement them. That is why there was such a large migration movement to Israel after the opening of the borders in the early 90s.
_Spread this, algorhithm!_
Excellent conclusion. Thank you for educating us
Power breeds parasites: long live anarchy
I think your video made me get even more interested in the cossacks than i already am lmao
Slava Ukraini!
Slava Ukraini! Let the horses run free on the wild steppe and be free from those whom would gut her and demand that she has been and always will be Russian.
SLAVA UKRAINI!
Слава України. Канада з тобою. З Вінніпегу, Канади.
Great video! One thing though. Gromada means a community, group in ukrainian. And mir means peace or world in russian. So I found it strange that you put equality sign between them.
Ukraine history is similar to polish as in they both got screw by Russia.
And Germany
Another banger, Slava Ukraini
Слава Україні! Ірояам Слава!
Воля або смерть!
хрюкни
@@БаронъМюнхгаузенъ Христос воскрес!
@@olehtrukhan2918 Воскреснет и Россия
@@БаронъМюнхгаузенънавряд
@@БаронъМюнхгаузенъ а шо вона вмерла вже
This is so nice of you guys keep it up!
8:30 Krug! I talked to some Ukrainian refugees and they told me krug means circle:D
LOL... Jerry's razors advertised on this... the Daily Wire guy paid for anarchy awareness.
Capitalism monetizing its criticisms etc etc, not to say it's bad, dumb cons get to learn a piece of Ukrainian history
You should reach out to Zoe Baker and work on a video about anarchist Catalonia.
That sounds really good
When I was in high school, I was eager to hear 'bout the Makhno and the Black Army, but no, the Ministry of Education made us listen about some boring dudes who tried to form a government but were so lame even Germans didn't want them as puppets. Quite sad, to be honest.
This is one of the best videos on historical Anarchism I've seen, yet there is a dearth of good videos on the subject and way more needs to be done. I still don't understand how a ragtag group of trade-unionists, gutter-punks, and heroin addicts are supposed to run a complex civilization, but I'm open to hearing how it could be done.
25:12 it's "Tatakae", not tatekei. But nice video!
it was an honor to help on this project
slava ukraini!
The Dutch being western European also use raad. Raadhuis, gemeenteraad translate to Town hall or community/town council, raadsman is counselor or advisor. Ik weet geen raad, I don't know what to do. Onraad means trouble.
a kroeg is a pub/tavern/bar.
This video made early history genuinely interesting to me
Well there is also theory that jats ( a warrior caste in India) have migrated form to Ukraine to India
May god bless the people of Ukraine.
Slava Ukraina
I tell ya there very lucky people the Ukrainians I mean there winning the war against Russia that takes some big balls and stay safe people
Are they still winning ?
Gotta love the "tatakae" reference at 25:09
Slava Ukraini
Out of curiosity, was the song playing at 17:37 called “Scenes of Russia”? Awesome video! Love the work you put into all of your work!
It's a guitar cover of Polyushka Pole. You can find all music in the description ^^
@@RavignonCh thanks!
Slava Ukraini
wonderful video
Great video.
Can I make an unsolicated suggestion that you changing your channel icon? Channel icons need to be easily reconizable and related to your channel's content. Imo the anime image you have is neither easily recognizable nor does it accurately represent your channel's content.
If you look at my dashboard you'll see I also make streams with a Vtuber model -- but you're right. Finding a logo is a bit of a complicated task and I am not wholly done with it XD
Mother Anarchy loves all her sons!
34:57 ok that is attention to detail
Amo tus vídeos, sigue así bro.
Not sure if you’ll see this, but I think you did a great job with the video! Do you have the versions of the songs you used in the background? I know most of them, but not the particular versions used in this video
They are all in the description :)
@@RavignonCh Ah, I didn’t see the bottom most part before 😅
cant wait for Québec part !!!
Great video overall
Thanks!
Where's our Québec III! Waiting with baited breath!
Bakunin was both a self-described Anarchist and a self-described nationalist. He believed oppressed peoples like poles, the Irish, and Ukrainians had a right to declare independence and throw off the shackles of imperialism and colonialism. He would prefer that those governments then move towards anarchism but one step at a time.
Most anarchist today are internationalist or they would rather cram every anarchist community into a globalist/international project. But Bakunin realized that if you want to give power down to the local level then you are necessarily not a globalist or an internationalist.
Bakunin was definitely a very specific anarchists because he wasn't influenced by Marx.
@@onecko1124 Marxism really polluted and corrupted Anarchism. Very often Anarchists get dragged into supporting communism, under the guise of 'anarcho-communism' but b/c communism is built on a litany of false assumptions (namely Hegelian dialectics) it always collapses into a ruthless, totalitarian state. Anarchists get tricked by Tankies and typically end up some of the first people to get killed in the power consolidation phase. Time and time again we see the same cycle occur with 'revolutions' but some idiots somewhere else just say "well REAL communism has never been tried". Yup, and no ones ever ridden a real unicorn either. Fantasy land logic used by deceitful tyrants. It's a horrid shame that legitimate Anarchist schools of thought are so bogged down in those lurid, twisted lies.
Slava Ukraini.
As a Ukrainian I dislike the figure of Makhno, since he sowed division in the times of crucial importance for the Ukrainian state and even sided with the Bolsheviks in trying to dismantle the Ukrainian National Republic. That being said, you've made a great and well researched video on his ideology and it's place in the independence war, big thanks for that!
You're not Ukrainian since there's no "state' word in Ukrainian vocabulary
@@achatcueilleur5746 respublica, derzhava, kraïna.
Националистов мнение не учитывается
8:04 In Romania we have "sfat" which means "advice" which has been used as "Sfatul Ţării" by the Moldavian Democratic Republic before joining Romania, "Sfatul bătrânilor" a pre-medieval organisation in the country and "Sfatul popular" during USSR influence. No clue how this didn't manage to spread into south slavic countries.
Beautiful.
Also, has anyone teased out the various political factions that can swing the nation towards a republic v autocratic or authoritarian governance? I figure the war pushes any discussion into the background until combat ends.
Are you using the videos from Kraut? Just let him know, if you haven''t told him. I am sure he will not mind.
I am a part of his art team XD we've been doing polandball together since the second episode of the Turkey series.
@@RavignonCh Ah, cool! I've been binge-watching the guy. I want to discuss a free non-usury/commodity currency I have developed to incentivise creating sustainably. Yes, this sounds cheesy like I am selling a crypto, but this misses the point. So hard to suggest something different, to then get 'is it a crypto' and all the sht that comes with that.
Anyway, the insight is really amazing. he easily illustrates the crap politics and religions are sold WITH usury money. Blows my mind that people follow this usury sht.
It's great he has so much exposure with almost half a million subscribers. It's perplexing that PewDiePie has 111M! Incomprehensible. People use be so lonely to want to watch someone like that.
Best of luck with your channel!
Slava Ukraini!!!!!!
Is this the Frenchxican's channel? The Kraut sent me here!
Nice video, but why do you say ''libertarian communist'' don't you mean libertarian socialist?
I am using a historical term ^^ libertarian communism is a broad brush that back then could be used interchangeably with syndicalists, anarchists and agrarianists. You can find this term in a lot of books discussing this period, as in the XIX century communism and socialism were used interchangeably -- you can check for example someone like Joseph Déjacque who used "anti-authoritarian communism" to refer to something we could call anarchocommunism today.
The differentiation became relevant as a way to distinguish people from the Sinosoviet types less than 100 years ago -- where communism very much had a "face" in certain countries and the Left Opposition sought for alternative names amidst the Red Scare and later liberalization.
@@RavignonCh Ah I see, thank you and have a good day/night.
Good one
Most of the cities founded by the Russian empire are a myth. There already existed cities, they were simply renamed. For example, salt from the Middle Ages was mined on the site of Odessa, and in the 15th century a fortress and a port were built.
Mariuopol was the port-fort of Domakh on the Kalmius River and on the coast of the Sea of Azva in the 16th century.
5 centuries have passed and the fort is still working against the barbarians.
Keterinoslav it New Kodak.
I hope Philip Granham will know about this
Btw im from Philippines i love anarchism
Holy shit this looks great! 🙂
great video like always slava ukraini ! :)
Now, i know why ukrainians prepared their molotovs against russians missiles & rockets, with a smile on their faces.
I feel like anarchism worked there cause they had a leader and cause they could unite under.
Well Mahkno was mostly just a military leader, the actual running of the political/economic system was actually done by workers councils, which seemed to work fine for a society organized into agricultural communes. I doubt the system would have been able to extend to an industrial society
@@thijmstickman8349 Yeah
Do you think that liberals (philosophical sense) and anarchist are more natural Allies than anarchists and communists?
Yes. Communism requires a state, a really really big state that typically needs to kill all the people who disagree with communism before it can even begin with it's Marxist project. Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism and similar schools of thought are more on the Anarchism side of the spectrum.
You've probably seen the Political Compass graph. Anarchism would be basically the bottom most line, no state what so ever. Libertarianism is just a notch above that but on the right side of the economics line where as communism is SUPPOSEDLY a notch above but on the left side of economics. Communism in practice is always totalitarian so ends up much, much further away.
Anarchism as a general term is pretty damn broad, there's LOTS of sub categories and flavors. Anarcho-communism is a popular one online (as sorta a rebuff of the totalitarian nightmares Communism in practice produces) but realistically it's just a restatement of the original Marxist thought that spawned Leninism and would slam right into the same walls that required totalitarianism to accomplish. Have to kill everyone who doesn't agree with you to get your perfect little utopia. Anarcho-capitalism is sometimes portrayed in media as the sci-fi Cyberpunk corpo-fascist state, but that's just a bastardized misrepresentation for the most part. Such sci-fi Megacorps would inherently be the government and the system would therefore by definition not be anarchism b/c of the presence of a state. Medieval Iceland had a bizarre system where there was no lords or kings but lots of little mercenary outfits that would compete for the role of a more traditional feudal baron or lord. Worked out to be very effective at maintaining the normal government role of monopoly of force (without being a monopoly) while being entirely voluntary and bound to the needs of the clients (the citizens). The system broke down when the whole Christianization stuff swept across Iceland and centuries of norms (and the Pagan religion) went out the window. Now if you were to ask an Anarcho-communist what they thought of Anarcho-capitalism, they'd call it not real anarchism whereas many anarchists think that anarcho-communism is flat out an oxymoron. Not surprising tho since Anarchists can't ever agree with each other over how to define 'Anarchism' let alone flesh out the internal divisions.
To be quite honest, Communism is closer to Fascism, in fact Fascism is basically just nationalistic Communism whereas Communism in it's idealized form is a Globalist ideology. That in turn is part of why Communism never works as advertised, it's never a global revolution and the revolutionary party is very rarely the ideology of the majority of a population. So the whole experiment is doomed from the start and the people are left with nothing but a despotic nightmare regime that just pays lip-service to 'the workers'. Beyond small scale, fully voluntary communes of diehard believers, it always implodes. Even in those cases they have the awful track record of devolving into cults of personality and de facto dictatorships.
The lovely thing about Libertarian and Classical Liberal systems is a group is perfectly free to set up their own commune internally and have at it. No other systems outside of the bottom right quadrant is exactly tolerant of a competing systems existing within the larger system. The bottom right quadrant is primarily concerned with letting people do what they please and only really objecting when conflict between two parties arises. The idealized Liberal Constitutional Democratic-Republic the US attempts to refine, and as of recent years attempts to salvage would fall under this 'Classical Liberal' camp.
Anyway, I hope this long, somewhat tangential comment sums up why classical liberalism is a better ally to anarchy than communism. I'm looking forward to all the hateful comments in response to this, lol.
liberals left their ideals of liberalism behind in faovur of capitalims and facism through neoliberalism and the idea that neoliberalism is immortal, as that will lead to facism
Certainly not. Anarchists *are* communists. Simply not statist or Marxist ones. Essentially the same goal with a radically different approach. Liberals in both the philosophical and modern political sense have a reduced understanding of liberty and value property and domination.
Slava Ukraini!
leave it to this guy to compile several complex concepts into a respectable lecture and end it like a school essay
I love how you translated Ukraine as The Borderlands
But that's not true
When he said borderlands he was literally telling the story of Don cossacks, not Ukrainian cossacks