The crazy thing with stems that i never thought would be possible is that u can lower the volume on stuff in the original mix! If you kinda like the vocals and want too have it but not as loud u can now. If it clips weird on on slice u can do stems on just that slice etc - its a whole new woooorld
I love this idea, but I’ll keep my M+ for now. I use serato studio to separate and bounce stems, import into Ableton/maschine. Nowhere near as fluid as this feature “seems” to be… but overall the Push3/M+ are more fluid to me. Hopefully it rolls out with no hiccups. The MPC never clicked for me, but they are quite capable devices. I love the push to integrate even more tech.
I always am thinking what if Dilla was alive for this era of sampling. He'd be going absolutely crazy. Can't wait for this feature to come out in a few weeks here when march rolls around. I got so many samples that i havent used due to them already having drums👑
im writing the same thing everywhere :P Every time when there is new thing on MPC we have to remind them that FORCE is still a thing and is a beast. For me the best Standalone
100%! And also for pretty much anyone who just wants to learn how to break down music to understand it better. Really valuable stuff, even if you don't use it for sampling purposes.
Just Blaze had access to this technology as far as 13 years ago. I am getting an MPC One in a few weeks & i am glad they have it on the stand alone version. Nice workspace btw.
Fruity Loops has stem separation in latest version. I love to hear a A & B test of the same song separated and see which one (FL or MPC Stems) has fewer artifacts….or about the same??
I remember reading in my Emu ESI-32 manual about the time-stretching "beat munging" feature that you could kick off the process and grab a cup of coffee while you wait (their words, not mine 😆). One minute for stem separation seems lightning quick by comparison. Thanks for showing this off.
Well, I'm not gonna say that it's flawless if it isn't :) It's an awesome technology, implemented in a great way in a pre-release version.But I doubt that we're gonna get 100% artefact-free results from anything like this in quite a bit. :D Thanks for appreciating it!
Hah! One of my first thoughts was, "I wonder what it'd do with a heavy or thrash, etc metal track..." Glad you addressed it! As for "who uses distorted guitars..." hrm. I got into jungle/drum n bass around the same time as I found Atari Teenage Riot/digital hardcore in the mid 90s. Jungle heavily relies on sampled breaks (can I get an *amen*?). Digital hardcore relies on many of those same breaks, but some also incorporated heavy guitars (notably ATR and EC8OR). Perhaps that interests fewer than 0.001% of your audience, but that's what came to mind when you mentioned the guitar stems. All hail our AI music overlords. xo
Thanks! I thought it was worth mentioning since the outcome really wasn’t clean. Lol! I know! People sample distorted guitars left and right and there’s nothing wrong with that at all 😀 Everything has its place in the culture, for sure! Thank man! Appreciate it!
This is amazing but also where Akai needs to beef up their ram and cpu inside their units. 2-4gb just isn’t cutting it, especially for heavy processing like stem separation. Newer units should come with no less than 8-12gb to ensure longevity of the mpc.
Yeah, specs always needs to get better as the software improves, for sure. I just really hope that the MPCs will be able to do this type of processing in standalone mode. Only the future will tell
Since its processed on the software version on mac/pc in this exemple, Wonder if the 1 min processing time for this sample will turn into a 10min once fully processed by the standalone mpc when available due to difference of cpu power. Still amazing though
I think the reason Akai is often slow to improve it's software is because hardware is still very much the company's bread and butter, having released 13 MPC branded devices in the past 12 years.
The stem separation in DJ software is real time based and as such is pretty low quality compared to offline processing we are seeing here. This sounds usable .. DJ software stems in my experience is only suitable for Bedroom DJs 😂 at best
Could you maybe try and do this with samples you record from vinyl? Curious to hear how that will work out, thinking of getting a new MPC just for this
I sampled and split this video’s samples into koala and can say that the mpc algorithm does sound better but I’m happy with what I’ve got for the price I paid.
the only way I see this coming to standalone is by uploading the samples to the cloud and process them there. the mpc is way too weak to process it locally in a reasonable amount of time. on the otherhand this would finally make some usage of the internet connection.
All this stuff is new to me my background is in traditional recording. So software to create stems is great tool, now can those audio stems be converted to MIDI if I want use different sounds but the original groove of the stem or change pitches?
What’s good? Got a question about the sampling on all the MPCs and the software. On Ableton, when using Simpler, there a playback option that gives you the choice of Mono,Poly,and Thru. With the “Thru option, the sample will continue to play even when the next sample comes, is that making sense? If it does, is there anyway to do it on the MPCs and the MPC Software?
So glad I bought a MPC X now. Always done the sampling the hard way,obviously got the desktop,but for the Standalone MPC X this is gonna be a game changer in how people make edits and remixes ❤
tried djing 15 years ago, and music in form of stems was my first idea after 30 minutes mixing. wondered why stems dont exist, let alone why isnt all music also released in stems format. few years, a decade lol, later stems appeared courtesy of NI but IIRC went nowhere. here we are, AI doing its magic. i do still think all music should be also released in stems format. the possibilites would be, nay are endless.
How are you feeling about Maschine software at this point? I kind of feel like they’re adding features way ahead of someone like me. They also aren’t making many changes for the Maschine+ seems left in the dark.
Honestly, I haven’t really kept up with the software. I really prefer being untethered from the computer and use M+ in standalone. I use it from time to time but since, as you’re saying, the M+ hasn’t gotten a lot of updates, I tend to use MPCs way more. I think NI needs to drop something huge for Maschine… Like a new piece of hardware and a big update for Maschine+ or something to stay in the game.
@@AccurateBeats I was heavy into Maschine for the last 10 years, but I don’t find any enjoyment out of using their software. It’s just becomes like a job, and not the fun I remember. I may venture out, and try MPC now. This process should be fun, and inspiring. I feel like the only thing offer now is sales on VSTs, and expansions.
I use MPC software with a a alesis vi25 keyboard with 16 mpc style pad 😊😊 . mpc live 2 was stolen last year and I paid 40 bucks for the keyboard when I got the insurance money to replace my mpc I never did because I loved the workflow of the software and the midi keyboard.
Damn this looks cool but especially on the drum stems you hear the typical phasing artifacts from stem separation. Kinda sad I sold my Force, it was an amazing piece of hardware but ultimately the UX of the software let it down.
The crazy thing with stems that i never thought would be possible is that u can lower the volume on stuff in the original mix! If you kinda like the vocals and want too have it but not as loud u can now. If it clips weird on on slice u can do stems on just that slice etc - its a whole new woooorld
That's unreal, i've been a 6 year music slump and this just gave me hope
blows my mind how stem seperation works, there are instruments in the same frequency ranges but they still manage to seperate them
thank the sampling GODS for this!
Man U made my day today, it’s so GOOD to see u i haven’t seen you for a while and I am glad you’re doing good God bless you brother
Pretty awesome to see more developers adopting this tech.
Yeah! My thought exactly! And Akai is doing a great job incorporating it!
*throws machine+ into a volcano*
Sold it a few weeks ago 😂
Maschine needs a few big updates at this point… Facts
I loved mine but every update has come with a plethora of issues and they have barely added any features since the second (buggy) update!
Maschine + Serato rules!
I love this idea, but I’ll keep my M+ for now. I use serato studio to separate and bounce stems, import into Ableton/maschine. Nowhere near as fluid as this feature “seems” to be… but overall the Push3/M+ are more fluid to me. Hopefully it rolls out with no hiccups. The MPC never clicked for me, but they are quite capable devices. I love the push to integrate even more tech.
Jesus. Your studio looks so clean and tidy. I wish i had your discipline. Looks very comfy. Respect
You think? I cleaned it up a bit for the video but it’s become a mess lately! The amount of cables I’m running is getting out of hand. Thanks though!
@@AccurateBeats "cables will keep cabling“
:-)
Yes i meant it. I like how you manage the space
I always am thinking what if Dilla was alive for this era of sampling. He'd be going absolutely crazy. Can't wait for this feature to come out in a few weeks here when march rolls around. I got so many samples that i havent used due to them already having drums👑
Ikr it sux he had to leave us so early 😪
Mind…blown. I never thought I’d see this implemented on a standalone MPC
so soon !!!
as someone who started messing with sampling in the late 90´s this is like the holy fkn grail right here. Can't wait to get this on my MPC1
Nice detailed summary. Thanks Uncle Acc'! Glad I don't need to buy a new piece of hardware or wait for MPC3 software for this.
I've been doing this manually in Propellerhead's REASON with the "BV512" - This is nuts!
I hope they bring this to the Force as well. It would be an excellent tool to have on that platform as well.
im writing the same thing everywhere :P Every time when there is new thing on MPC we have to remind them that FORCE is still a thing and is a beast. For me the best Standalone
@@NoiseSoundDestructor This is why I own an MPC and a Force. This way I get all the goodies.
@@noisetheorem at my financial situation i could only have one. I picked the force :)
@@NoiseSoundDestructor no don't say it anyone, its been done to death LoL
I love that song. My Dad, Uncles and Aunties used to love dancing to it! Just Loving You - Tearra! Awesome video btw Bro!
This is going to change everything from this point on
Yeah, it’s evolving and will soon be considered to be a standard function.
Seriously impressive stuff, and hopefully the release version will be even better !!!
Good use for Ai. I can see this useful for learning bass / guitar parts.
Worth $10.
100%! And also for pretty much anyone who just wants to learn how to break down music to understand it better. Really valuable stuff, even if you don't use it for sampling purposes.
I am so glad they implement this on MPC one as well
As far as I know, all new features and plugins also came to MPC One though, thankfully!
My man, great news to bring us. Thank you
Just Blaze had access to this technology as far as 13 years ago. I am getting an MPC One in a few weeks & i am glad they have it on the stand alone version. Nice workspace btw.
Dude! you just lit a GAS fire! looking at MPCs now
How very exciting I just hope the gUI and the arrange function gets introduced like the force .. this is so cool though
Totally agree the standalone is the most likely option for me !
looking forward to this...I'll now be able to rip the vocals from my old album tracks and do remixes. Lost the master tapes decades ago...lol
My heart grew 10 times today! Good to see you and this is cool. I am upset that I got Serato
Sample though. $10 bucks! Cmon!
Love this. Thanks for making the video.
🙏
Fruity Loops has stem separation in latest version. I love to hear a A & B test of the same song separated and see which one (FL or MPC Stems) has fewer artifacts….or about the same??
Wow you still saying Fruity Loops lol
I remember reading in my Emu ESI-32 manual about the time-stretching "beat munging" feature that you could kick off the process and grab a cup of coffee while you wait (their words, not mine 😆). One minute for stem separation seems lightning quick by comparison. Thanks for showing this off.
Thanks for addressing the elephant in the room ... the reality of artifacts! you're the only reviewer to do this . w
Well, I'm not gonna say that it's flawless if it isn't :) It's an awesome technology, implemented in a great way in a pre-release version.But I doubt that we're gonna get 100% artefact-free results from anything like this in quite a bit. :D Thanks for appreciating it!
Stand alone will be the true evolution for us💥
I have sample waiting for 15 years for this moment
Thank You. Awesome!
Been missing you man!
Thanks! I needed some time off all this stuff but its great to be back!
Hah! One of my first thoughts was, "I wonder what it'd do with a heavy or thrash, etc metal track..." Glad you addressed it!
As for "who uses distorted guitars..." hrm. I got into jungle/drum n bass around the same time as I found Atari Teenage Riot/digital hardcore in the mid 90s. Jungle heavily relies on sampled breaks (can I get an *amen*?). Digital hardcore relies on many of those same breaks, but some also incorporated heavy guitars (notably ATR and EC8OR).
Perhaps that interests fewer than 0.001% of your audience, but that's what came to mind when you mentioned the guitar stems.
All hail our AI music overlords. xo
Thanks! I thought it was worth mentioning since the outcome really wasn’t clean. Lol! I know! People sample distorted guitars left and right and there’s nothing wrong with that at all 😀 Everything has its place in the culture, for sure!
Thank man! Appreciate it!
This is amazing but also where Akai needs to beef up their ram and cpu inside their units. 2-4gb just isn’t cutting it, especially for heavy processing like stem separation. Newer units should come with no less than 8-12gb to ensure longevity of the mpc.
Yeah, specs always needs to get better as the software improves, for sure.
I just really hope that the MPCs will be able to do this type of processing in standalone mode. Only the future will tell
@@AccurateBeatsOR...............will the standalone stem processing be cloud based with a mandatory MPC connection to wifi 🤔.....that would suck
Well… The desktop software doesn’t connect to the web for this so I highly doubt that’s gonna be the case
Man,thanks for this video!
This is fire 🔥
You are doing well bruh bruh 💯 love your guru:
Looks great. Now bring it to Force.
thank Ye 4 the push
Q: What’s better than breaks?
A: Clean breaks. 😏
The gift that keeps on giving
Yeah! That could be the title of pretty much any video I make on something new for the MPCs.
Kinda crazy actually.
Cosmic man
Ta for that
Gotta have one of those
Awesome news🎉🎉
I can't wait until the standalone version releases. This is big. I'm an FL guy so we already have stem separation in DAW but standalone is dope!!!
Yeah, the standalone feature will be huge for sure!
It is my first time watching you, I was really surprised when you spoke Swedish at the end
Ha! Thank you. Yeah, that tag line of “ha det gött” has stuck with me for years. 😀
Can’t wait for standalone!
Finally 🤙🏻
So everyone is on this, this morning. Peace to you
Stem sample render time is coffee break time
Since its processed on the software version on mac/pc in this exemple, Wonder if the 1 min processing time for this sample will turn into a 10min once fully processed by the standalone mpc when available due to difference of cpu power. Still amazing though
pretty awesome sh-t!!
Amazing 🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Yes !!!!
Very cool!
Awesome stuff
I think it's kind of both weird and amusing that DJ software had the ability to utilize stems before MPCs.
Exactly. I bought the Rev 7 to be able to use stems and record them in the mpc.
I've had stems through Virtual DJ since late 2021.
I think the reason Akai is often slow to improve it's software is because hardware is still very much the company's bread and butter, having released 13 MPC branded devices in the past 12 years.
The stem separation in DJ software is real time based and as such is pretty low quality compared to offline processing we are seeing here. This sounds usable .. DJ software stems in my experience is only suitable for Bedroom DJs 😂 at best
amazing
Sago Accurate 👍
Could you maybe try and do this with samples you record from vinyl? Curious to hear how that will work out, thinking of getting a new MPC just for this
Yeah man, that’s coming up!
I sampled and split this video’s samples into koala and can say that the mpc algorithm does sound better but I’m happy with what I’ve got for the price I paid.
You did? That’s cool!
Let’s hope that the competition here makes everyone evolve and improve on things!
the only way I see this coming to standalone is by uploading the samples to the cloud and process them there. the mpc is way too weak to process it locally in a reasonable amount of time. on the otherhand this would finally make some usage of the internet connection.
Oooo shiit I must start making hiphop beats again after 10 years
Fire!
All this stuff is new to me my background is in traditional recording. So software to create stems is great tool, now can those audio stems be converted to MIDI if I want use different sounds but the original groove of the stem or change pitches?
Smokin'!
Let's see what it's like with proper crackly vinyl.
Did u happen to also check if the stem clarity was affected by the sample type - ie: mp3 vs wav?
Good morning, thanks for the information. Is the computer version already available for purchase?
awesome too when is it coming out? Also thing is perfect took for sampling thieves 😂
Will it be available in the next update of the Akai Force?
What’s good? Got a question about the sampling on all the MPCs and the software. On Ableton, when using Simpler, there a playback option that gives you the choice of Mono,Poly,and Thru. With the “Thru option, the sample will continue to play even when the next sample comes, is that making sense? If it does, is there anyway to do it on the MPCs and the MPC Software?
So glad I bought a MPC X now.
Always done the sampling the hard way,obviously got the desktop,but for the Standalone MPC X this is gonna be a game changer in how people make edits and remixes ❤
Couldn’t agree more. This will definitely expand the possibilities for us alk
Thanos snapped my Maschine after watching this.
That had to be the longest minute ever.
Thanks for this. I’m buying a mpc 61 keys
tried djing 15 years ago, and music in form of stems was my first idea after 30 minutes mixing. wondered why stems dont exist, let alone why isnt all music also released in stems format. few years, a decade lol, later stems appeared courtesy of NI but IIRC went nowhere. here we are, AI doing its magic. i do still think all music should be also released in stems format. the possibilites would be, nay are endless.
Wow!! exciting stuff. Take my money plz.
Handy!
Can stems play off the drive on MPC yet or do they still have to play from ram? If you use stems live, it’s a show stopper!
Karaoke d f out of everything now.
How are you feeling about Maschine software at this point? I kind of feel like they’re adding features way ahead of someone like me. They also aren’t making many changes for the Maschine+ seems left in the dark.
Honestly, I haven’t really kept up with the software. I really prefer being untethered from the computer and use M+ in standalone.
I use it from time to time but since, as you’re saying, the M+ hasn’t gotten a lot of updates, I tend to use MPCs way more.
I think NI needs to drop something huge for Maschine… Like a new piece of hardware and a big update for Maschine+ or something to stay in the game.
@@AccurateBeats I was heavy into Maschine for the last 10 years, but I don’t find any enjoyment out of using their software. It’s just becomes like a job, and not the fun I remember. I may venture out, and try MPC now. This process should be fun, and inspiring. I feel like the only thing offer now is sales on VSTs, and expansions.
basically sampling is about to REALLY get out of control
No wayyyy!!
I knooow!
@@AccurateBeats So how long you think until this is standalone?
@@MyNameJeff..that’s impossible to say… Your guess is as good as mine. Hopefully soon. Who knows?
@@AccurateBeats Dang, standalone with this would be so sick
I’m off to make some distorted guitar beats
Touché!
I use MPC software with a a alesis vi25 keyboard with 16 mpc style pad 😊😊 . mpc live 2 was stolen last year and I paid 40 bucks for the keyboard when I got the insurance money to replace my mpc I never did because I loved the workflow of the software and the midi keyboard.
Wow!!!!!!!!
When is the stems coming out ?
this comes with MPC ONE from the box or should be bought separately?
Separate purchase at $10.
And at the same time, getting external gear working with or controlling the MPC via MIDI still is bugged...
what bout the mpc live no one say that its include
Live 1? In standalone? I can’t see why it wouldn’t work when the standalone version drops but I can promise anything.
Maschine, Native are you there??
…
@@AccurateBeats i just hope they gonna add that :-)
Say if one wants to get cleaner drums : there's no way to remove hi hats?
Cheers 🥂
Verkar redan fungera ruskigt bra trots Alpha måste jag säga!
Menar ju det!
How does it work with electronic music?
Dayummmm
Can you compare it to the djay software? It’s the best at this moment on stems. It does it realtime on my iPad with 4 tracks at the same time 🤩
It doesn’t seem fair to do it with this alpha version of MPC Stems but maybe when it’s really available? And compare it to a bunch of software?
the question for me is, doest it also work with electronic sounding tracks?
Yeah. It’s actually a lot more effective for that type of stuff. I thought it was unfair to make it that easy for it in my video.
Damn this looks cool but especially on the drum stems you hear the typical phasing artifacts from stem separation. Kinda sad I sold my Force, it was an amazing piece of hardware but ultimately the UX of the software let it down.
How to set up mpc one connect to mpc beat software??