Throughout these past couple of years, I have learned a lot about typology. The more I learn, the more I realize just how limited one single person's perspective is. Each person can only see a small sliver of reality, based on what their personality type is. No one sees all of reality for what it really is. I believe that this is where the strength of Ne comes in. From what I have perceived, People with savior Ne seem to be sort of automatically aware of this, even if this awareness is subconscious. Because anything is possible, and one single person's past experiences and sensory knowledge could never provide an understanding of all of reality.
Exactly… it’s like the question everyone asks as a kid… What if nobody else sees the same colors that I see? Do they experience life completely different than I do? It’s almost like the Truman show effect.
Takes me back to Socrates acknowledged ignorance (who’s also an entp). I’m an entp and totally agree with your comment. I’m however of the opinion that with this awareness entps need to understand and be with almost every type so that they can add perspectives to their arsenal and hopefully get more slivers of reality like you said.
Yep holy shit well described. I'm an ENFP and for me it's like staring into space. Endless amount of ways the world can be seen. We're a small candlelight of consciousness in the vast ocean of unconsciousness.
@@SierraBravo347 hi buddy, lots of Em today. I don't know if Lijo wants our music appreciation club here. Would you consider making an IG. I have one, no posts, very safe. It's MBTI geared.
@@glueball214 I know, I wondered that myself. I don't want to be a nuisance on her channel. I guess I'll have to check into IG, I was trying to avoid SM, but I don't know anything else to remedy the situation other than email...archaic, I know. 😆
@@glueball214 that's what makes it a paradigm aka "world view," it's just a filter of bias. Why envy those trapped in it? You can pick it up or but it down instead of mistaking it as the actual substance of reality(not that material structure~form is any more real than raw conception).
ENFP here! Being Ne-dom makes it really hard to talk to people because if they're on the same page, they're great, but if they're not, they hate it. My Si-dom mom always forces me to stop talking and then re-explain my entire thought process, which takes all the energy out of the conversation and makes me want to stop talking to her altogether. Never make a Ne-dom do that. You'll ruin their day.
I'm an ENFJ and I have recently spoken to two ENTPs we are both on the same frequency which is great but it is like every few minutes one of them turns the dial to a different frequency and I am able to do it at the same time but its like holy crap slow down lol. It is great but my energy is just sapped if I talked to them too much!
Being Ne dominant helps me make connections and gain insights others don’t see. It is however painful for others to watch me think out loud. I talk to my office white board to draw out my ideas before explaining it to anyone. Have to have some good friends/colleagues for bouncing nascent concepts off. The catch is there’s no lens for filtering what’s practical.
As an ENFP I honestly don’t think the value of having other people around to bounce ideas off of could be stated enough for those that don’t live through the Ne lens. As a creative, my form of “writers block” tends to come in the form of having no parameters to work within. Having that “blank sheet” to start from is actually my nemesis and the more restraint and boundaries, I’ve noticed, actually tends to bring out my most creative and ingenious solutions.
Lol I'm an INFP and sometimes I catch myself in my thoughts, thinking how the hell did I end up here. And then I try to go backwards in my mind to the starting point of this very thought. And it's often reeeally abstract and not so obvious, even to myself.
A lot of people compare Ne to a web (which I think is pretty accurate). Ni seems to be more like a rope-intertwining relevant known information to make their concepts and ideas strong.
Yes the web cathes bits and bots. And Ti reals it in or dicards it my savior. Maybe pair it of with what is known Si. Or keep it to yourself because it is inappropiate Fe. INTP.
Something that always stuck in my mind as an INTP was during a workshop we had a ball that kept rolling around, and someone wanted it to stop moving. But, everything we had was straight, like a stick, a rope and a block. I recommended we use the rope and my other team members said "the rope is only going to stop it from rolling in one direction" I replied "not if we form it into a loop around the base of the ball". It's not the best example, but it was a time where I caught myself using my Ne. It's like Ne remembers how many different ways something can exist or be used, and Ni remembers how something was most useful at one time - which explains the need for Se to explore new things and find many different things for many different purposes. Or, Ne is good at finding alternative uses for things, and Ni is good at finding the greatest use for something.
this is SUCH a beautifully direct explanation. I had the longest time struggling to fully comprehend how my own savior Ne manifested in my day to day life because it is so subconscious, but this is really just a perfect way to put it.
@@vanessavalentin4304 better it be a sublayer within your own consciousness(aka psyche) than entirely alien to it aka "unconscious" which clearly means "not of consciousness" aka *not of the psyche~mind through which it is presented.* Psychologists don't properly think before they form their phrades and proponents of the fiction pedal te poorly coined noise instead of reworking it all for optimal coherence.
@@linyenchin6773 you comment about the psychologists poor word choice, but your writing could use some proofreading as well. Maybe a little self criticism before you use words like "idiots" for those that you are bothered by. Here is a saying I have found to often times be true. "The things that bothers us about others, are the things we hate within ourselves.
I usually end up in a different forest - maybe in a different continent too. What you just described I used to call free-association thinking, or knight-step thoughts (knight as a chess piece).
I want to add: Thank you so much for making your content as short and straightforward as possible. The communicaton between your Ni and Te does my short-tempered Ne a favor! One of your biggest fans already! 🌸
I love your content. You skip the ego stroking and go straight for the goods. Anyway, you said the word tangent in a video about Ne and immediately I thought "whatever she says is right from here on out." Nailed it. As an ENTP, I imagine that listening to me monologue about 200 things and constantly forgetting about the previous thing as I move on until I pause realizing that I might be losing the other person and they-wait-it's either stressful or fun that is what I have gathered from interactions abroad. An interested person who enables the thought train and "enjoys" it jumping from track to track, is genuinely the most pleasant interaction I can think of. It cures depression. Imagine spending life seeing the stress you just talking causes (having fun with that or not) and then someone WANTs to come along or stays engaged? OH that is better than sex. It's better than discovering an untended raft in a river in a forest-borrowing isn't stealing yano.
The best conversations flow so easily from one thing to another to another, never gets boring. Eventually the conversation ends for whatever reason and when we part, that is when I realize I am exhausted, but had a great time. - intp
I realized recently that my Ne is a lot like that one Wikipedia game where you start with one article and try to click links to get to a completely unrelated one as fast as you can 😂 I think it's a really cool way to practice using Ne, because it makes you think of all the possible things these two unrelated subjects have in common in order to find the right links in your current article. So I think it's great for people who want to understand it or learn how to use it, and unhealthy addictive for those who have it as their dominant function 😂 I also think it's a great tool for me as an Ne user to be able to see the train of thought I took and analyze why I made those connections in retrospect. This is an example of one I did, where I had to go from artificial intelligence to Jewish holidays: "Artificial intelligence", "Human intelligence", "Language", "Music", "String instrument" "Harp", "Angel", "Abrahamic religions" "Judaism" "Jewish holidays" Normally I wouldn't be aware of those connections that I'm making, so it's really interesting to see them from a removed perspective.
Im ENFP and my wife is INFP. You can imagine how our conversation goes when we are in flow together . Most beautiful and fun and intimate way to bond ever.. i just love NE types ❤😍 childlike with alot of energy and at the same time wise like an old soul. 🥳😍 my big brother is INTP. It never get boring 🥳🥳 Sometimes we need to get off topic .. or it will seem like we are getting off topic, but we are now combining alot of different but the same.. and putting them together so we can make more sense of what we actually are talking about.. i notice when talking to my friend . Infj. Which is a great listener.. but i know where he is going with the subject long beforehand. They are so predictable. Never new insights. They tend to bring the same thought or vision into every other subject. As one thing can explain everything. So sometimes they never let new things come in.. that is boring 😅
1:28 As an Ne dom (ENTP) another great example of how Ne works, is what my brain did when I heard this statement. LiJo's Ni is excited to have found the perfect example to describe Ne. Yet my brain immedeately started thinking about - How other functions could have made someone diverge on the topic - About how that is not what Ne is all about, and started thinking of a million things Ne can also be without changing topics. Now am not saying LiJo was wrong, I am just saying what my brain does all the time. Diverge into multiple possibilities or topics from somethign someone says or am saying/thinking. It isn't like ADHD, in the way it is colloquially known. In fact, it is the opposite, because I am utterly oblivious to external stimuli, so I do not get distracted by things outside me. But I do get distracted by ideas. It is as if my brain has multiple browser tabs open, and I can even think of multiple things at the same time. Sometimes completely unrelated things. Someitmes, I am talking to hypothetical people in my brain, they are discussing thigns and each hold a different opinion on a subject. But I can do all of that, while still doing something else in the real world. I can never shut down my brain. I also, can get very depressed if I do not feed my brain of ideas. For example, I love my job and the people I work with. But once, they banned youtube in our job. I use youtube almost exclusively to learn new things. But in less than a week, for almost the first time in my life, I started feeling very depressed. Like I was even thinking about quitting my job, because just working without learning anything new was torture. After me complaining a lot, I got youtube back. And to this day, I always have on the background a video about quantum physics, psychology, MBTI, history, philosophy, art, etc. I am never looking for new experiences, unless I see I can learn something from it. But it has to be a conceptual thing, even seeing something I have never seen before, does almost nothing to me. But hearing something I have never heard before, I get so excited. For example, if someone tells me that we should go to Japan, even tho i love Japan I would be like, no thank you. I hate being a tourist, but if someone tells me, we will go to Japan to not go as a tourist but tallk to the locals and learn about their culture. Not by seight seeing but talking about it. Perhaps meet an expert on Japanese culture. I would be extremely excited. And yeah, I always do what Lijo said on the video. So this was to add to it. In fact, Ne loves both elaborating on what someone else said. ANd you can very well see, that I did indeed elaborate... even tho for me, this is the short version, lmao.
I’m sorry that you got depressed :( but i am glad that you got youtube back! Also, i hope you can learn japanese before going to japan because not being able to speak to locals is extremely frustrating
@@InternetLiJo Thank you for making great content tho. I think another way to differentiate Ni vs Ne, and it can be seen in the differnt approach we took. Ne wants to expand, elaborate, add more to the idea. Just like I am doing right now. Ni is the opposite, it wants to reduce everything into its essence. Ni wants to strip the idea of all noise and make it as clear as possible. Ni users are masters at knowing what is truly important conceptually. Ne adds as much ideas and information as possible, without caring about the information overload or chaos. Because it feels like taking something out of the equation cheapens it. Totally different approaches, I don't think neither is better, they are just different. And both are needed in different context. And when you have people with both functions, magic happens.
@@farrex0 she is already aware that the "i" tunctions focus(sharpen) while the "e" functions concentrate aka consolidate(gather). She is a master of the mbti fiction.
@@farrex0 did you notice you used the word "brain," specifically to denote or emphasize the impulsive nature within your mind instead of using the term "subconscious" or the totally idiotic term; "unconscious" as in the more moronic phrase; "unconscious bias"? The brain is overrated and constantly conflated with the mind(some idiots believe mind is just a fancy word for brain) and idiots continue to pedal the phrase "unconscious" as if it doesn't mean "not of~from one's own psyche" but "somewhere that volition doesn't flow but is definitely within one's psyche." I blame mouth-breathers(intellectuals) they just make up trash without contemplating how it fits in with existing language and how it will warp future cognitive coherence of those who try to flow along with the incongruent mess they left in their wake.
My ENFP daughter wll often say "My brain just exploded into dozens of thoughts and ideas." I love that about her. As an Ni, I find her funcrions interesting and absolutely DELIGHTFUL!
Lol INFP here and I'm the queen of random tangents 😅 in fact I often feel like I can't help but jump around to different topics! "Wait what were we talking about? How did we end up talking about X?" is like my catch phrase 😅
Thanks for explaining it so well. Up untill now the phrase "Ne (immediately) sees all the possibilities" didn't make me understand but the way you put is completely relatable. The branchings paths, the jumps to (seemingly) unrelated parts of the tree ... could be fun to map these travels out for a while.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was a little confused about what exactly extroverted intuition is. I was like 95% sure that I am an INFP but the problem was I never saw the Ne function in me based on the defenition and I just didnt know how it works. However, now that you gave me this great example I can totally see it !!
It is an amazing experience branching from one place to another in the conceptual network of related ideas. Finding weaknesses and places that have a scope of investigation and further inquery, the larger, the deeper ledger of logical architecture, catalog of facts and understanding the better robust and diverse comprehensive capability and storing and creating new ideas with better and deeper realistic building assumptions. Mostly you would be blind to certain causal relations that do exist but are related by a larger chain of facts.
Ne, here, wondering why anyone would travel on a rigidly linear path unless it was to solve a very specific problem? That would be like a flock of small birds in a large tree, with each bird having to limit itself to one branch. Or it might be like neural nets being fixed without a chance to rewire in response to one's changing environment. I am well versed in intensely focused states as well, but they are actively driven, energetic states where extraneous stimulation dissappears, senses become laser focused on what's in front of me , and time seems to slow down. Ne states are relaxed, Zen- like, intuitive states that are broad-focused, and feel like you're soaking in the warmth of life like sun on your back. Obviously our cognitive functions weave very different tapestries. Fascinating.
Wow this is great! Thank you! I feel I do this around non Ne types and they must think "what the..." I better pay attention they are following! Which I do watch for when working with clients in fact it is a great benefit in a healing context but in random conversations perhaps not, can make things interesting...lol.
Thanks again for these well-constructed videos. Straight to the subject, concrete, practical, simple, fast, efficient. With just one perfect and short example. The nocturnal and minimalist environment is very pleasant. Surely that's why I really love your content and the Love Who one. During ENTJ to INFJ conversation :"What were we talking about at the beginning?" and I managed to get back to the main topic. ENTJ : "where did I put that ? I lost this." I didn't know the answer, but I almost always guessed right. I think, N Dominants make connections between ideas faster/quicker than the others.
In My experience there’s no end-ill keep branching out and reconnecting what ive learned to where i am thus far. 😁Thats what its all about its the journey with no end just cycles in the direction we choose❤
That explains SO MUCH about me...and about others. I've noticed how people need me to hold their hand through my thought process a lot of the time, and it's sad how people with Ne may get downplayed as Conspiracy Theorists. So many people actually trust the society around them. (Poor things) However, I don't, and I notice how many people in power, mainly the news, love to lie. They are such superficial liars, too. Their lie only works if you look at it from head-on. Extroverted Intuitives can take a slight relation and compute a thought in a completely unexpected direction until they see right through the facade of the lie. Unfortunately, that results in being called a "conspiracy theorist" by everyone else. You wind up being the man with vision while the world is wearing bifocals.
Always felt like the patterns of my mental and emotional communication was that of a mycelium network. Great videos and insight LiJo, lots of love n' good vibes. - ENFP
This is something I do as well but I am usually able to go back and see where it started. This has been a source of confusion for me on whether or not I'm an ENFP. My brother-in-law is an ENFP. I can talk to him for hours and the subjects continue to change. One difference though is I can usually find the connection that lead us there. My brother-in-law said he struggled to recall the topics that lead to the current one, or how to bring it all back to a concise conclusion. I'm able to somehow connect my final thought to my first thought, even if everything in between was a bunch of rabbit trails. His thought process is just continuously changing. Maybe it's that he doesn't feel the need to backtrack and see how it all connects because he just want to keep on going forward in his thoughts. I have this desire to say, "okay, how did we get here? Let's try to go back to our original topic." Thus begins that backtracking and we are amused at how it changed so much. However, I wasn't lost along the way. We both seem to feel we are on topic, even if the topic has drastically shifted. Lol. We could both be ENFPs, and he may just have a stronger Ne. He also seems to think more about how the world will evolve (or devolve). He thinks about living on an acreage where he and his family can live off the land so if the government starts to take control or another pandemic hits, they would have everything they need to survive. Stuff like that. I don't think about the future that way. I like to think about theoretical dystopian/apocalyptical concepts and discuss how I would survive, but it isn't rooted in our reality or in any way do I foresee it actually happening. I just like to discuss it for fun. Thinking about my future though, I'm mostly thinking of my immediate future, like what TV shows are on tonight, a new game I'm looking forward to is coming out in a week, I'm seeing my friends this weekend, etc.
My friend once told me im difficult to follow cuz i change topics very quickly. Im a teacher and this worries me sometimes cuz to me its natural but i dnt know if the converstion goes crazy for my students. Wed start with the weather and might end up talking about world hunger. This is a relief because this means i aint crazy. To me, conversations evolve naturally and I couldn't understand why some people can talk about one topic for a long time.
As an enfp (Ne dominant) I'm literally thinking of random possibilities in any situation without filters.I am also a male and it makes me feel really alienated, cause this personality is rare for males(haven't met any).People won't understand me..
If you've ever watch stargate SG1. The wormhole which the characters travel through from planet to planet feels like introverted intuition for me (similar to NE). The travel is blurry and fast. Impossible to articulate the journey from one point to the other. You just arrive and are astounded by this new world that is before you.
The title of this made me (or should I say my beloved Ne) think about making videos such as "Do you or someone you know have Ne?" & "How to talk to your loved ones about Ne". Always and forever my fave cognitive function but definitely not for everyone 👽🖤🌌👻💫
The thing is Extroverted intuition is everything is linked. As J types would classify elements into "normal or trendy or popular categories", Ne types will redefine the classification entirely up to the point everything is linked into multiple categories. For example, J types would classify an inventory list in excel sheet in an order list. But Ne would be able to sort all datas in this sheet by different columns, rows, and even in 3D. While talking about trees, branches, leafs are all re-categoried by Ne as vegetable, which are required the ground to survive, therefore recategorize it back to nature, which requires the sun to be able to have energy, therefore recategorized as universe. Therefore, trees, leafs, branches, ground, soil, planet, sun, energy are all in the same category: universe. From universe, we can categorize trees with trees, or trees with branches, etc... Ne would not respect the conventional way of classifications, rather, Ne understand the classifications, and expending multiple possible classifications, to infinite classifications, and retain all those classifications for future use. While people see Ne is jumping from one subject to another, it's not. Because the definition of the subject is usually content-related (by J types), while Ne is framework/structure related. For example: 1. The sun gives energy to trees to grow. 2. I eat an apple to have the energy to be healthy. J might see: why are you jumping from trees to apples? (J see trees and apple as 2 different classifications) Ne: I am not jumping. I am talking about the importance of energy. (Ne see there is one classification called the source of Energy and in this classification, we can find apple and sun.) The minds are wired differently. Which makes us all have common and different personality traits.
Just to contribue to this comment section as an Ne auxiliary, here are some topics I researched on TH-cam since I woke up today : - Babylon - New Testament Greek - The existence of Solomon - Science in ancient Mesopotamia They're all slightly related but trust me that won't be the case by the end of the day.
I was thinking whether im an ENTP or INTJ and as soon as u said “talking abour one thing and then it remind em of something and then they’ll talk about that” and i was like damn that’s me. Guess im an ENTP in my INTJ unconscious
Wow! Ne user me actually taking my study info like this exploration sometimes Like one boring definition,,,,making it a big story by branching some interesting info,,,,now from interesting story to the boring definition study does not matter matter for me! All this time doing it unconsciously (but not always find the connection though,,,,thanks to the intj brain ❤❤❤❤ Creating funny relative info or possibilities just for making the boring rough info converting into more soft then just acquiring it❤
Being an extroverted intuitive can bite me in the rear end, especially as an elementary school teacher to Deaf students because of the limited life experiences they have as kids and little to no auditory input. On top of all that, my coworkers are all Sensor types. Being an extroverted intuitive definitely helped me more when I was in an academic and political bubble in undergrad and grad school. Many more people who could follow along the tangents my professors and I took during lectures. And because we more or less all agreed with each other politically, there was less that had to be said out loud.
I know I struggle to reign in my tangents, even when talking to myself. When I notice, I say "and I say this because..." and sometimes I'm able to relate it to my original point (from memory, or post-hoc association that might be what I was thinking), and sometimes I'm not able to. Sometimes I don't even remember my original point lol.
But I'm curious here. I happen to have the same experience as you and relate it when it happens to me as Ti and its child maturity in my stack. The difficulty to trace back my thought pattern to its original point is frequent to me, I'm an Infj. But would it mean that I'm in fact mystyped and would rather relate more to the Intp preference since I relate so strongly to the Ti, especially as an enneagram 5 ? Hell am I using Ne right now without even realising it or is it just Ti tertiary lack of certainty in its analyzing again, how can I tell the difference even. F*ck is this a typology crisis for me *ooooh shit here we go again* I guess. P.S: I'd love to have your diagnostic even though I'll most likely won't take it at face value sorry. I know you recognize Intp in this last sentence sure, but please don't XD.
@@yanismartinel4043 Jung describes intuition as an unconscious function, so it makes sense for an Ni dom to not be able to track the origin of their thoughts. The difference between INFJ and INTP intuition, though, is how related the concepts are to the original topic, as LiJo describes in this video. I'm quite certain I'm a Ti/Si SBCP, so while I do notice my tangents, I feel compelled to consciously sort them out, and circle back to try and be coherent. Maybe you're also Blast Savior, too, and feel the same compulsion. I don't know what it's like from an INFJ perspective, so I recommend you talk to those types to figure out if they have the same experience. Reddit and Discord have communities that can help you connect with people for that.
@@georgecataloni4720 Things are clear now, as they always were (well not true lol), thanks for your help man. Turns out i'm still running with the Infj preference after all.
Lol this is a INFP mom. Like when talking about food, then all of a sudden she started talking about some wisdom about other people don’t have delicious food to eat like how is this related to the pasta ? 😅😂
Oh... So, I'm totally okay😅 Usually when I start to explain something and create a web of topic my listeners are (thanks sis and mother, thanks my cat and friends that you listen me time to time) a bit confused. Because I start with one branch of monologe then I turn to subbranch, then create abstract connections (this level usually difficult and people ask me to say shortly what I mean) and finally return to main topic and volia - the circle is closed. After my monologue I have two reactions: 1. 'I don't understand how you think in this way, I have never connected such things but it's cool'. 2. 'Oh my gosh... You think a lot, don't you? You should take information easy, it's routine topic, not a lecture'😅 I like both reactions ❤ Especially the second one because... 'You don't understand. I explain again, it's important' 😂
I like associate with "ideas of tree" in other storage "languages" too.. like tree could be a function in math or just structure of narrative in visual language. It opens an extra layer of meta for the associations
So when you told about soccer I believe it was because today I read a lot about da Vinci so I imagine the ball. Right? And the ball turns into a circle, almost flattened there on the grass green field which becomes white, becomes paper. The I imagine the vitruvian man standing there on our sometimes ball? Is this really what's ne like? And also if I do have it in my stack as a Dom aux it has to be used consiously so I could be an ne auxiliary, which contradicts the entp test results I got a lot of the time. Hmm.. if anyone sees this any opinions?
(Intp) had an INFP bf and whether is was feminine or masculine we had the exact same Ne. One time we saw a hairstyle or something and it reminded us of Spider-Man 3 when he’s in an alley way and messes with his hair to make it look more emo lol. That’s the only example I can remember but that kind of stuff happened all of the time. One would say that it reminded them of one thing and the other would say that they were about to say the exact same thing. It was wild
I find this happening quite frequently. Associates find it sometimes difficult to "keep up" with my conversation. I'll begin at one point, which leads me to separate, unconnected subjects. Maybe I just have ADD...I don't know.
NE is #2 for me...after FI so from a morally grounded wise position...I can surmise likely 'hunches' of what ever is required of the situation...and yes it connects with other flashes of lightning...bypassing the mathematically measurable logical facts necessary to thinkers that follow a pathway..think of it this way people look at maps to find the roads to find a destination...I use the area around the roads to know where on the road I am to get were if have determined...it is freaky...people could think your a corn flake...but in the end I seem to always win whatever it is.sometimes like imaging things out that are behind brick walls..Its irrational but I can read people like a book and I can smell someone speaking lies instantly..it does sound crazy doesn't it.
Story time: yesterday I was talking with my sister and we were talking about artificial limbs and in about 3 or 4 sentences we were talking about rich people and the Queen. Ne is cute, I have it aux (INFP). But do you actually think it's related to adhd/add?
As an INFP I find that adhd and add are something many Ne doms/auxs would question having considering our characteristics are so similar haha. Idk though
I have a ceiling fan in my bedroom that has a bit of a rhythmic electrical hum. Sometimes, in idle moments when I was just lying in my bed, I started thinking "that almost sounds like the word x." After that, I kept a little list of all the words I would hear in the rhythmic hum of that ceiling fan in a file I called "What does the fan say," a title I gave it because I thought of "What does the fox say." After a few weeks, I had "heard" almost 10 different words or phrases from that silly ceiling fan. I am not making this up. XD Maybe I am more of an Ne person than I thought.
I've never thought of it that way before but that explains something. See, I'm always intj on tests and normally my logic follows a clear path but I have a way of brainstorming hard problems that is exactly what you're explaining as extroverted intuition. It makes sense now since I've always been more of an ambivert. ANTJ? 😆
When I write my Ni is dominant but when I speak my Ne simply comes out of nowhere, but I always try to find connections so that people can follow me. Is it weird that I don't get tired from using Ne when I am Ni dom but when others use it I lose all focus unless they keep it short and coherent!
I didn't realize how much I use Ne (im an ENFP) until I became close friends with an ENTJ. The way I know I'm using too much Ne is when we're having a friendly debate about something and I've made so many random connections that my poor friend looks like she has an error message going through her brain 😂. None of what I just said fits into her system of organization, so she starts trying to ask a question to clarify what I meant but it comes out as trying to start multiple questions at once and it kinda looks like she's glitching 😂 So those are the moments when I know I need to back up and find a coherent explanation for what I'm trying to say lol
Fluctuating between Se-Ni and Ne-Si, but have always related more to Ne-Si, especially recently, absorbing a lot of material on Ne. Still I'm kinda afraid to say I'm Ne, feeling like I'll be stamped a fraud for not being "Ne enough," (which sounds ridiculous when put into words). Granted, I'm certain I'm not lead-Ne (double observer) so my Ne-ness would presumably be less conspicuous than a lead Ne's. Also, I've always related to the idea that the mind stores memories like a web. You've got one node (Si) of information which when activated, activates all the surrounding nodes (more Si), zipping through until all the relevant info has been gathered, which might account for why certain details might be missing if a node has been skipped or activated late. Whenever some other way of storing and retrieving memories has been presented I've always been like, "people do what?" And in the end it could all just be peacocking and wishful thinking. Consume can be a pain sometimes, even (or especially) as a saviour.
I am an Ne user, but I have to say "A reminds me of B, and here's why" because I have so many Ni and Se users that can't follow along, I've built the phrase into my SOP. My Si wouldsometimes kick in to loop me back to the original point... eventually.
Man as a Se user i always feel like all the other functions have some kind of superpower while im just over here like „uh yea i see and hear and smell“ like wtf how lame is that im literally unable to listen to someone if they have a butterfly flying behind them or a train is going by
I think I don’t have Ne because I hate changing subject and when I think I do like “ohh this thing is the same thing as that thing lmao” but it happens to me that I’m hearing an interesting convo for an hour/hour and a half (just before my mental energy drops down) and I shout a word/phrase that seems so unrelated but when I explain it in more detail, everyone gets it. I explained by thro unconscious Se and Ni wants to narrow down the idea/concept, but I may be wrong
I mean...is it really such a jump to go from law to anthropology? Both are centered around human systems, and concern themselves with the behavior and culture of mankind. I don't see how this is such a big deal. Like those two make perfect sense to me. (Then again, I do have auxiliary Ne 😜) try making the jump from law to sports injuries! (Which, again, I could do in a hot second haha)
Everything I was following pretty good until about 4:25 and then my brain got a little lost. Not a criticism Just noticing that this is a point in listening to someone that I would be looking for some visual thing to keep the thought paths in line for comparing 2 things. If I were taking notes I would make 2 boxes and try to sort that information because the wires are crossing for me. I gather that having everything in one abstract cloud is more Ni? and Ne is more of a train? or rather a pingpong ball in extreme cases... Like me playing skyrim or Elden ring teleporting to various places because I remember a chain of things I intended to do here and there creating a web of tasks not inter-related but they will lead me to a specific self-set goal. idk if that is making sense. I guess I'm asking if I'm getting it right and I think I'm Ne (even though forever I thought I was INFJ and have considered INTP and ENTP) ok I'm doing the rabbit trail thing
also, usually I would organize and edit what I wrote before posting it but my phone is making it really hard to do so idk if its the app or my semi-broken phone. So I'm Ne Curious on if I am understanding the explanation from 4:25-5:00 correctly but sometimes I just gotta move on from information I don't understand verbally. Other Ne people, do you work better taking notes, even if just to visualize? is that a Te need of mine? feel free to tell me your thoughts.
Requesting two shrubberies, of different heights for a split-level effect with a path running down the middle, sounds pretty Se, which would imply Ni. :)
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Throughout these past couple of years, I have learned a lot about typology. The more I learn, the more I realize just how limited one single person's perspective is. Each person can only see a small sliver of reality, based on what their personality type is. No one sees all of reality for what it really is.
I believe that this is where the strength of Ne comes in. From what I have perceived, People with savior Ne seem to be sort of automatically aware of this, even if this awareness is subconscious. Because anything is possible, and one single person's past experiences and sensory knowledge could never provide an understanding of all of reality.
This is a great Ne example 💯👌🏻
@@InternetLiJo Thank you!
Exactly… it’s like the question everyone asks as a kid… What if nobody else sees the same colors that I see? Do they experience life completely different than I do? It’s almost like the Truman show effect.
Takes me back to Socrates acknowledged ignorance (who’s also an entp). I’m an entp and totally agree with your comment. I’m however of the opinion that with this awareness entps need to understand and be with almost every type so that they can add perspectives to their arsenal and hopefully get more slivers of reality like you said.
Yep holy shit well described.
I'm an ENFP and for me it's like staring into space. Endless amount of ways the world can be seen. We're a small candlelight of consciousness in the vast ocean of unconsciousness.
It must be so cool to have functions and types so saturated in your brain that you can see them unfolding before your eyes 👀
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@@SierraBravo347 hi buddy, lots of Em today. I don't know if Lijo wants our music appreciation club here. Would you consider making an IG. I have one, no posts, very safe. It's MBTI geared.
@@glueball214 I know, I wondered that myself. I don't want to be a nuisance on her channel. I guess I'll have to check into IG, I was trying to avoid SM, but I don't know anything else to remedy the situation other than email...archaic, I know. 😆
I can’t unsee the type code… ever lol
@@glueball214 that's what makes it a paradigm aka "world view," it's just a filter of bias. Why envy those trapped in it? You can pick it up or but it down instead of mistaking it as the actual substance of reality(not that material structure~form is any more real than raw conception).
ENFP here! Being Ne-dom makes it really hard to talk to people because if they're on the same page, they're great, but if they're not, they hate it. My Si-dom mom always forces me to stop talking and then re-explain my entire thought process, which takes all the energy out of the conversation and makes me want to stop talking to her altogether. Never make a Ne-dom do that. You'll ruin their day.
Don't ever deprive me of the pleasure to ruin your day.
And I promise not to go nuts listening :3
I'm an ENFJ and I have recently spoken to two ENTPs we are both on the same frequency which is great but it is like every few minutes one of them turns the dial to a different frequency and I am able to do it at the same time but its like holy crap slow down lol. It is great but my energy is just sapped if I talked to them too much!
As an ISFP, I'm sorry but your Ne HURTS my head :)
Being Ne dominant helps me make connections and gain insights others don’t see. It is however painful for others to watch me think out loud. I talk to my office white board to draw out my ideas before explaining it to anyone. Have to have some good friends/colleagues for bouncing nascent concepts off. The catch is there’s no lens for filtering what’s practical.
As an ENFP I honestly don’t think the value of having other people around to bounce ideas off of could be stated enough for those that don’t live through the Ne lens. As a creative, my form of “writers block” tends to come in the form of having no parameters to work within. Having that “blank sheet” to start from is actually my nemesis and the more restraint and boundaries, I’ve noticed, actually tends to bring out my most creative and ingenious solutions.
Lol I'm an INFP and sometimes I catch myself in my thoughts, thinking how the hell did I end up here. And then I try to go backwards in my mind to the starting point of this very thought. And it's often reeeally abstract and not so obvious, even to myself.
Same here. I can't focus on one subject for long because of it.
A lot of people compare Ne to a web (which I think is pretty accurate). Ni seems to be more like a rope-intertwining relevant known information to make their concepts and ideas strong.
Indeed!
Yes, for example : Renaud Contini, Frank James, (and surely many others Ni dominant : AsuraPsych, Love Who ) associate Ni with a spiral.
I liken my Ni to a tornado or a hurricane
I can see Ne acting like lightning
Yes the web cathes bits and bots. And Ti reals it in or dicards it my savior.
Maybe pair it of with what is known Si. Or keep it to yourself because it is inappropiate Fe.
INTP.
My actual train of thought just now: Purple background in this video > The Color Purple > Whoopi Goldberg > Star Trek: the Next Generation
That’s it!!
Right lol
Something that always stuck in my mind as an INTP was during a workshop we had a ball that kept rolling around, and someone wanted it to stop moving. But, everything we had was straight, like a stick, a rope and a block. I recommended we use the rope and my other team members said "the rope is only going to stop it from rolling in one direction" I replied "not if we form it into a loop around the base of the ball". It's not the best example, but it was a time where I caught myself using my Ne.
It's like Ne remembers how many different ways something can exist or be used, and Ni remembers how something was most useful at one time - which explains the need for Se to explore new things and find many different things for many different purposes. Or, Ne is good at finding alternative uses for things, and Ni is good at finding the greatest use for something.
this is SUCH a beautifully direct explanation. I had the longest time struggling to fully comprehend how my own savior Ne manifested in my day to day life because it is so subconscious, but this is really just a perfect way to put it.
Happy to be of service **bows**
@@InternetLiJo ofc ofc 😼
@@vanessavalentin4304 better it be a sublayer within your own consciousness(aka psyche) than entirely alien to it aka "unconscious" which clearly means "not of consciousness" aka *not of the psyche~mind through which it is presented.*
Psychologists don't properly think before they form their phrades and proponents of the fiction pedal te poorly coined noise instead of reworking it all for optimal coherence.
@@linyenchin6773 you comment about the psychologists poor word choice, but your writing could use some proofreading as well. Maybe a little self criticism before you use words like "idiots" for those that you are bothered by. Here is a saying I have found to often times be true. "The things that bothers us about others, are the things we hate within ourselves.
Vanessa, Do you like to innovate, brainstorm or MacGyver your way out of problems?
I usually end up in a different forest - maybe in a different continent too.
What you just described I used to call free-association thinking, or knight-step thoughts (knight as a chess piece).
Yeah sometimes I feel like my job is the Ne catcher when they drift too far from the planet. 🤣
why stop there.... Alternate universe where chlorophyl is red
So in short, if you're exasperated, confused, drained and need 3 days to recover, you've spoken to an Ne.
except if the other person has Ni, then it's magical for both of us.
I want to add:
Thank you so much for making your content as short and straightforward as possible.
The communicaton between your Ni and Te does my short-tempered Ne a favor!
One of your biggest fans already! 🌸
Thanks so much!! Glad the communication hits home
I completely agree !!!
I love your content. You skip the ego stroking and go straight for the goods. Anyway, you said the word tangent in a video about Ne and immediately I thought "whatever she says is right from here on out." Nailed it. As an ENTP, I imagine that listening to me monologue about 200 things and constantly forgetting about the previous thing as I move on until I pause realizing that I might be losing the other person and they-wait-it's either stressful or fun that is what I have gathered from interactions abroad. An interested person who enables the thought train and "enjoys" it jumping from track to track, is genuinely the most pleasant interaction I can think of. It cures depression. Imagine spending life seeing the stress you just talking causes (having fun with that or not) and then someone WANTs to come along or stays engaged? OH that is better than sex. It's better than discovering an untended raft in a river in a forest-borrowing isn't stealing yano.
Spoken like a true Ne user!
The best conversations flow so easily from one thing to another to another, never gets boring. Eventually the conversation ends for whatever reason and when we part, that is when I realize I am exhausted, but had a great time. - intp
Just thought I'd mention, the background and lighting for this segment is striking. The look is a keeper!
I realized recently that my Ne is a lot like that one Wikipedia game where you start with one article and try to click links to get to a completely unrelated one as fast as you can 😂
I think it's a really cool way to practice using Ne, because it makes you think of all the possible things these two unrelated subjects have in common in order to find the right links in your current article. So I think it's great for people who want to understand it or learn how to use it, and unhealthy addictive for those who have it as their dominant function 😂
I also think it's a great tool for me as an Ne user to be able to see the train of thought I took and analyze why I made those connections in retrospect. This is an example of one I did, where I had to go from artificial intelligence to Jewish holidays:
"Artificial intelligence", "Human intelligence",
"Language", "Music", "String instrument"
"Harp", "Angel", "Abrahamic religions"
"Judaism" "Jewish holidays"
Normally I wouldn't be aware of those connections that I'm making, so it's really interesting to see them from a removed perspective.
Im ENFP and my wife is INFP. You can imagine how our conversation goes when we are in flow together . Most beautiful and fun and intimate way to bond ever.. i just love NE types ❤😍 childlike with alot of energy and at the same time wise like an old soul. 🥳😍 my big brother is INTP. It never get boring 🥳🥳
Sometimes we need to get off topic .. or it will seem like we are getting off topic, but we are now combining alot of different but the same.. and putting them together so we can make more sense of what we actually are talking about.. i notice when talking to my friend . Infj. Which is a great listener.. but i know where he is going with the subject long beforehand. They are so predictable. Never new insights. They tend to bring the same thought or vision into every other subject. As one thing can explain everything. So sometimes they never let new things come in.. that is boring 😅
1:28 As an Ne dom (ENTP) another great example of how Ne works, is what my brain did when I heard this statement. LiJo's Ni is excited to have found the perfect example to describe Ne.
Yet my brain immedeately started thinking about
- How other functions could have made someone diverge on the topic
- About how that is not what Ne is all about, and started thinking of a million things Ne can also be without changing topics.
Now am not saying LiJo was wrong, I am just saying what my brain does all the time. Diverge into multiple possibilities or topics from somethign someone says or am saying/thinking.
It isn't like ADHD, in the way it is colloquially known. In fact, it is the opposite, because I am utterly oblivious to external stimuli, so I do not get distracted by things outside me. But I do get distracted by ideas. It is as if my brain has multiple browser tabs open, and I can even think of multiple things at the same time. Sometimes completely unrelated things. Someitmes, I am talking to hypothetical people in my brain, they are discussing thigns and each hold a different opinion on a subject. But I can do all of that, while still doing something else in the real world. I can never shut down my brain.
I also, can get very depressed if I do not feed my brain of ideas. For example, I love my job and the people I work with. But once, they banned youtube in our job. I use youtube almost exclusively to learn new things. But in less than a week, for almost the first time in my life, I started feeling very depressed. Like I was even thinking about quitting my job, because just working without learning anything new was torture. After me complaining a lot, I got youtube back. And to this day, I always have on the background a video about quantum physics, psychology, MBTI, history, philosophy, art, etc.
I am never looking for new experiences, unless I see I can learn something from it. But it has to be a conceptual thing, even seeing something I have never seen before, does almost nothing to me. But hearing something I have never heard before, I get so excited. For example, if someone tells me that we should go to Japan, even tho i love Japan I would be like, no thank you. I hate being a tourist, but if someone tells me, we will go to Japan to not go as a tourist but tallk to the locals and learn about their culture. Not by seight seeing but talking about it. Perhaps meet an expert on Japanese culture. I would be extremely excited.
And yeah, I always do what Lijo said on the video. So this was to add to it. In fact, Ne loves both elaborating on what someone else said. ANd you can very well see, that I did indeed elaborate... even tho for me, this is the short version, lmao.
I’m sorry that you got depressed :( but i am glad that you got youtube back! Also, i hope you can learn japanese before going to japan because not being able to speak to locals is extremely frustrating
Thank you for proving my case for me 😉💯
@@InternetLiJo Thank you for making great content tho.
I think another way to differentiate Ni vs Ne, and it can be seen in the differnt approach we took.
Ne wants to expand, elaborate, add more to the idea. Just like I am doing right now. Ni is the opposite, it wants to reduce everything into its essence.
Ni wants to strip the idea of all noise and make it as clear as possible. Ni users are masters at knowing what is truly important conceptually.
Ne adds as much ideas and information as possible, without caring about the information overload or chaos. Because it feels like taking something out of the equation cheapens it.
Totally different approaches, I don't think neither is better, they are just different. And both are needed in different context. And when you have people with both functions, magic happens.
@@farrex0 she is already aware that the "i" tunctions focus(sharpen) while the "e" functions concentrate aka consolidate(gather). She is a master of the mbti fiction.
@@farrex0 did you notice you used the word "brain," specifically to denote or emphasize the impulsive nature within your mind instead of using the term "subconscious" or the totally idiotic term; "unconscious" as in the more moronic phrase; "unconscious bias"?
The brain is overrated and constantly conflated with the mind(some idiots believe mind is just a fancy word for brain) and idiots continue to pedal the phrase "unconscious" as if it doesn't mean "not of~from one's own psyche" but "somewhere that volition doesn't flow but is definitely within one's psyche."
I blame mouth-breathers(intellectuals) they just make up trash without contemplating how it fits in with existing language and how it will warp future cognitive coherence of those who try to flow along with the incongruent mess they left in their wake.
My ENFP daughter wll often say "My brain just exploded into dozens of thoughts and ideas." I love that about her. As an Ni, I find her funcrions interesting and absolutely DELIGHTFUL!
Lol INFP here and I'm the queen of random tangents 😅 in fact I often feel like I can't help but jump around to different topics! "Wait what were we talking about? How did we end up talking about X?" is like my catch phrase 😅
Being Ne dominant, this is the best explanation I have ever heard of Ne.
Thanks for explaining it so well. Up untill now the phrase "Ne (immediately) sees all the possibilities" didn't make me understand but the way you put is completely relatable. The branchings paths, the jumps to (seemingly) unrelated parts of the tree ... could be fun to map these travels out for a while.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was a little confused about what exactly extroverted intuition is. I was like 95% sure that I am an INFP but the problem was I never saw the Ne function in me based on the defenition and I just didnt know how it works. However, now that you gave me this great example I can totally see it !!
the biggest sign that you are a Ne dom:
You get so caught up in the future that you can forget the present.
-From an ENFP
I'm INFP and catch myself daydreaming more than I actually do anything.
When younger I was always getting told off about it
It is an amazing experience branching from one place to another in the conceptual network of related ideas. Finding weaknesses and places that have a scope of investigation and further inquery, the larger, the deeper ledger of logical architecture, catalog of facts and understanding the better robust and diverse comprehensive capability and storing and creating new ideas with better and deeper realistic building assumptions. Mostly you would be blind to certain causal relations that do exist but are related by a larger chain of facts.
Ne, here, wondering why anyone would travel on a rigidly linear path unless it was to solve a very specific problem? That would be like a flock of small birds in a large tree, with each bird having to limit itself to one branch. Or it might be like neural nets being fixed without a chance to rewire in response to one's changing environment. I am well versed in intensely focused states as well, but they are actively driven, energetic states where extraneous stimulation dissappears, senses become laser focused on what's in front of me , and time seems to slow down. Ne states are relaxed, Zen- like, intuitive states that are broad-focused, and feel like you're soaking in the warmth of life like sun on your back. Obviously our cognitive functions weave very different tapestries. Fascinating.
I guess it feels like an impulse and just not wanted to go off topic. idk how to explain
I'm INFP and find everything potentially amusing because NE links
Great video. Very well explained. Good job 👍
Thank you!
Wow this is great! Thank you! I feel I do this around non Ne types and they must think "what the..." I better pay attention they are following! Which I do watch for when working with clients in fact it is a great benefit in a healing context but in random conversations perhaps not, can make things interesting...lol.
Thanks again for these well-constructed videos. Straight to the subject, concrete, practical, simple, fast, efficient.
With just one perfect and short example. The nocturnal and minimalist environment is very pleasant.
Surely that's why I really love your content and the Love Who one.
During ENTJ to INFJ conversation :"What were we talking about at the beginning?" and I managed to get back to the main topic.
ENTJ : "where did I put that ? I lost this." I didn't know the answer, but I almost always guessed right.
I think, N Dominants make connections between ideas faster/quicker than the others.
You're welcome!
You're welcome!
In My experience there’s no end-ill keep branching out and reconnecting what ive learned to where i am thus far. 😁Thats what its all about its the journey with no end just cycles in the direction we choose❤
That explains SO MUCH about me...and about others. I've noticed how people need me to hold their hand through my thought process a lot of the time, and it's sad how people with Ne may get downplayed as Conspiracy Theorists. So many people actually trust the society around them. (Poor things) However, I don't, and I notice how many people in power, mainly the news, love to lie. They are such superficial liars, too. Their lie only works if you look at it from head-on. Extroverted Intuitives can take a slight relation and compute a thought in a completely unexpected direction until they see right through the facade of the lie. Unfortunately, that results in being called a "conspiracy theorist" by everyone else. You wind up being the man with vision while the world is wearing bifocals.
Always felt like the patterns of my mental and emotional communication was that of a mycelium network. Great videos and insight LiJo, lots of love n' good vibes. - ENFP
This is something I do as well but I am usually able to go back and see where it started. This has been a source of confusion for me on whether or not I'm an ENFP. My brother-in-law is an ENFP. I can talk to him for hours and the subjects continue to change. One difference though is I can usually find the connection that lead us there. My brother-in-law said he struggled to recall the topics that lead to the current one, or how to bring it all back to a concise conclusion. I'm able to somehow connect my final thought to my first thought, even if everything in between was a bunch of rabbit trails. His thought process is just continuously changing. Maybe it's that he doesn't feel the need to backtrack and see how it all connects because he just want to keep on going forward in his thoughts. I have this desire to say, "okay, how did we get here? Let's try to go back to our original topic." Thus begins that backtracking and we are amused at how it changed so much. However, I wasn't lost along the way. We both seem to feel we are on topic, even if the topic has drastically shifted. Lol.
We could both be ENFPs, and he may just have a stronger Ne. He also seems to think more about how the world will evolve (or devolve). He thinks about living on an acreage where he and his family can live off the land so if the government starts to take control or another pandemic hits, they would have everything they need to survive. Stuff like that. I don't think about the future that way.
I like to think about theoretical dystopian/apocalyptical concepts and discuss how I would survive, but it isn't rooted in our reality or in any way do I foresee it actually happening. I just like to discuss it for fun. Thinking about my future though, I'm mostly thinking of my immediate future, like what TV shows are on tonight, a new game I'm looking forward to is coming out in a week, I'm seeing my friends this weekend, etc.
My friend once told me im difficult to follow cuz i change topics very quickly. Im a teacher and this worries me sometimes cuz to me its natural but i dnt know if the converstion goes crazy for my students. Wed start with the weather and might end up talking about world hunger. This is a relief because this means i aint crazy. To me, conversations evolve naturally and I couldn't understand why some people can talk about one topic for a long time.
As an enfp (Ne dominant) I'm literally thinking of random possibilities in any situation without filters.I am also a male and it makes me feel really alienated, cause this personality is rare for males(haven't met any).People won't understand me..
Oh 4:00 is such a beautifully succinct distinction!
Now I have a better idea of how to "stay on track" with sensors, to make better communication.
If you've ever watch stargate SG1. The wormhole which the characters travel through from planet to planet feels like introverted intuition for me (similar to NE). The travel is blurry and fast. Impossible to articulate the journey from one point to the other. You just arrive and are astounded by this new world that is before you.
The title of this made me (or should I say my beloved Ne) think about making videos such as "Do you or someone you know have Ne?" & "How to talk to your loved ones about Ne". Always and forever my fave cognitive function but definitely not for everyone 👽🖤🌌👻💫
The thing is Extroverted intuition is everything is linked. As J types would classify elements into "normal or trendy or popular categories", Ne types will redefine the classification entirely up to the point everything is linked into multiple categories.
For example, J types would classify an inventory list in excel sheet in an order list. But Ne would be able to sort all datas in this sheet by different columns, rows, and even in 3D.
While talking about trees, branches, leafs are all re-categoried by Ne as vegetable, which are required the ground to survive, therefore recategorize it back to nature, which requires the sun to be able to have energy, therefore recategorized as universe. Therefore, trees, leafs, branches, ground, soil, planet, sun, energy are all in the same category: universe. From universe, we can categorize trees with trees, or trees with branches, etc... Ne would not respect the conventional way of classifications, rather, Ne understand the classifications, and expending multiple possible classifications, to infinite classifications, and retain all those classifications for future use. While people see Ne is jumping from one subject to another, it's not. Because the definition of the subject is usually content-related (by J types), while Ne is framework/structure related.
For example:
1. The sun gives energy to trees to grow.
2. I eat an apple to have the energy to be healthy.
J might see: why are you jumping from trees to apples? (J see trees and apple as 2 different classifications)
Ne: I am not jumping. I am talking about the importance of energy. (Ne see there is one classification called the source of Energy and in this classification, we can find apple and sun.)
The minds are wired differently. Which makes us all have common and different personality traits.
Just to contribue to this comment section as an Ne auxiliary, here are some topics I researched on TH-cam since I woke up today :
- Babylon
- New Testament Greek
- The existence of Solomon
- Science in ancient Mesopotamia
They're all slightly related but trust me that won't be the case by the end of the day.
"Where can you end up in 3 sentences?" Me: Ne-where!!
Ad a friend, beer and a pub, and you've basically summed up my 20's :))
Hahahah right on 👌🏻
Thanks for sharing! Love your videos
Thank you very much
You’re a great teacher!
I was thinking whether im an ENTP or INTJ and as soon as u said “talking abour one thing and then it remind em of something and then they’ll talk about that” and i was like damn that’s me. Guess im an ENTP in my INTJ unconscious
Wow! Ne user me actually taking my study info like this exploration sometimes
Like one boring definition,,,,making it a big story by branching some interesting info,,,,now from interesting story to the boring definition study does not matter matter for me! All this time doing it unconsciously (but not always find the connection though,,,,thanks to the intj brain ❤❤❤❤
Creating funny relative info or possibilities just for making the boring rough info converting into more soft then just acquiring it❤
Heey you look so beautiful and I like your background!
Was just thinking about this very same topic. Thanks!
You’re very welcome 🧠
As an INFP, I feel kinda called out, lol. 😂 This usually happens when talking about things!
Read it as "do you have extroverted intuition? No"
People I was like 'she seems pretty sure'
Bahahahhah 🤣🤣
Being an extroverted intuitive can bite me in the rear end, especially as an elementary school teacher to Deaf students because of the limited life experiences they have as kids and little to no auditory input. On top of all that, my coworkers are all Sensor types.
Being an extroverted intuitive definitely helped me more when I was in an academic and political bubble in undergrad and grad school. Many more people who could follow along the tangents my professors and I took during lectures. And because we more or less all agreed with each other politically, there was less that had to be said out loud.
I know I struggle to reign in my tangents, even when talking to myself. When I notice, I say "and I say this because..." and sometimes I'm able to relate it to my original point (from memory, or post-hoc association that might be what I was thinking), and sometimes I'm not able to. Sometimes I don't even remember my original point lol.
Lol I see that happen with people quite often 😎
But I'm curious here. I happen to have the same experience as you and relate it when it happens to me as Ti and its child maturity in my stack. The difficulty to trace back my thought pattern to its original point is frequent to me, I'm an Infj. But would it mean that I'm in fact mystyped and would rather relate more to the Intp preference since I relate so strongly to the Ti, especially as an enneagram 5 ? Hell am I using Ne right now without even realising it or is it just Ti tertiary lack of certainty in its analyzing again, how can I tell the difference even. F*ck is this a typology crisis for me *ooooh shit here we go again* I guess.
P.S: I'd love to have your diagnostic even though I'll most likely won't take it at face value sorry. I know you recognize Intp in this last sentence sure, but please don't XD.
Also how do you experience Si then ? Cause I really can't see that one in me for sure.
@@yanismartinel4043 Jung describes intuition as an unconscious function, so it makes sense for an Ni dom to not be able to track the origin of their thoughts.
The difference between INFJ and INTP intuition, though, is how related the concepts are to the original topic, as LiJo describes in this video.
I'm quite certain I'm a Ti/Si SBCP, so while I do notice my tangents, I feel compelled to consciously sort them out, and circle back to try and be coherent. Maybe you're also Blast Savior, too, and feel the same compulsion. I don't know what it's like from an INFJ perspective, so I recommend you talk to those types to figure out if they have the same experience. Reddit and Discord have communities that can help you connect with people for that.
@@georgecataloni4720 Things are clear now, as they always were (well not true lol), thanks for your help man. Turns out i'm still running with the Infj preference after all.
I do this but more in a concrete way. Such as the sports and sports injury example.
Woah you're so beautiful , cheers from a ISFJ , nice video ;)
Cool :) Ne is my secondary function, this was interesting.
Lol this is a INFP mom. Like when talking about food, then all of a sudden she started talking about some wisdom about other people don’t have delicious food to eat like how is this related to the pasta ? 😅😂
Hahhah exactly!
Well done, bravo ✍👏✌
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Without this function I don't think I could do what I do (spatial data analysis; GIS; cartography), and love doing it at the same time.
Oh... So, I'm totally okay😅
Usually when I start to explain something and create a web of topic my listeners are (thanks sis and mother, thanks my cat and friends that you listen me time to time) a bit confused. Because I start with one branch of monologe then I turn to subbranch, then create abstract connections (this level usually difficult and people ask me to say shortly what I mean) and finally return to main topic and volia - the circle is closed.
After my monologue I have two reactions:
1. 'I don't understand how you think in this way, I have never connected such things but it's cool'.
2. 'Oh my gosh... You think a lot, don't you? You should take information easy, it's routine topic, not a lecture'😅
I like both reactions ❤
Especially the second one because... 'You don't understand. I explain again, it's important' 😂
As an ENFP who does this more than I shoul, I feel called out 😅
I like associate with "ideas of tree" in other storage "languages" too.. like tree could be a function in math or just structure of narrative in visual language. It opens an extra layer of meta for the associations
Nice!
love your video
I like to see you when you are more confident in what you're doing (intj)
So when you told about soccer I believe it was because today I read a lot about da Vinci so I imagine the ball. Right? And the ball turns into a circle, almost flattened there on the grass green field which becomes white, becomes paper. The I imagine the vitruvian man standing there on our sometimes ball? Is this really what's ne like? And also if I do have it in my stack as a Dom aux it has to be used consiously so I could be an ne auxiliary, which contradicts the entp test results I got a lot of the time. Hmm.. if anyone sees this any opinions?
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thanks 💜💜💜
Im an INTP. Give me 3 sentences, and I will traverse the universe.
My house is green. I was jumping on uranus. I am a flying hobbit
Lol. "Where will it take you? To a different leaf?"
My brain: "To a different planet"
That's a great example.
Having Ne is not really understanding why moving from Law to Anthropology within seconds seems so random.
I go to this weekly improv class and they keep telling me to stay in the circle of expectations LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
oh i can take you there 🤗 i just dont know where there is 🚀
"I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."
Haha. Well, we shall find out when we get there right?
(Intp) had an INFP bf and whether is was feminine or masculine we had the exact same Ne. One time we saw a hairstyle or something and it reminded us of Spider-Man 3 when he’s in an alley way and messes with his hair to make it look more emo lol. That’s the only example I can remember but that kind of stuff happened all of the time. One would say that it reminded them of one thing and the other would say that they were about to say the exact same thing. It was wild
thank you! i thought i might have se instead of ne but this video helped alot!
I find this happening quite frequently. Associates find it sometimes difficult to "keep up" with my conversation. I'll begin at one point, which leads me to separate, unconnected subjects. Maybe I just have ADD...I don't know.
NE is #2 for me...after FI so from a morally grounded wise position...I can surmise likely 'hunches' of what ever is required of the situation...and yes it connects with other flashes of lightning...bypassing the mathematically measurable logical facts necessary to thinkers that follow a pathway..think of it this way people look at maps to find the roads to find a destination...I use the area around the roads to know where on the road I am to get were if have determined...it is freaky...people could think your a corn flake...but in the end I seem to always win whatever it is.sometimes like imaging things out that are behind brick walls..Its irrational but I can read people like a book and I can smell someone speaking lies instantly..it does sound crazy doesn't it.
Story time: yesterday I was talking with my sister and we were talking about artificial limbs and in about 3 or 4 sentences we were talking about rich people and the Queen.
Ne is cute, I have it aux (INFP). But do you actually think it's related to adhd/add?
As an INFP I find that adhd and add are something many Ne doms/auxs would question having considering our characteristics are so similar haha. Idk though
I have a ceiling fan in my bedroom that has a bit of a rhythmic electrical hum. Sometimes, in idle moments when I was just lying in my bed, I started thinking "that almost sounds like the word x."
After that, I kept a little list of all the words I would hear in the rhythmic hum of that ceiling fan in a file I called "What does the fan say," a title I gave it because I thought of "What does the fox say." After a few weeks, I had "heard" almost 10 different words or phrases from that silly ceiling fan. I am not making this up. XD Maybe I am more of an Ne person than I thought.
I got lost in mu thoughts in the middle of the video, heard an interesting word she said. Then i went on a journey far away 🤣
do a video on relationship compatibility. Socionics explains this well.
as a ne aux this is so real
I've never thought of it that way before but that explains something. See, I'm always intj on tests and normally my logic follows a clear path but I have a way of brainstorming hard problems that is exactly what you're explaining as extroverted intuition. It makes sense now since I've always been more of an ambivert. ANTJ? 😆
When I write my Ni is dominant but when I speak my Ne simply comes out of nowhere, but I always try to find connections so that people can follow me. Is it weird that I don't get tired from using Ne when I am Ni dom but when others use it I lose all focus unless they keep it short and coherent!
I didn't realize how much I use Ne (im an ENFP) until I became close friends with an ENTJ. The way I know I'm using too much Ne is when we're having a friendly debate about something and I've made so many random connections that my poor friend looks like she has an error message going through her brain 😂. None of what I just said fits into her system of organization, so she starts trying to ask a question to clarify what I meant but it comes out as trying to start multiple questions at once and it kinda looks like she's glitching 😂
So those are the moments when I know I need to back up and find a coherent explanation for what I'm trying to say lol
Fluctuating between Se-Ni and Ne-Si, but have always related more to Ne-Si, especially recently, absorbing a lot of material on Ne. Still I'm kinda afraid to say I'm Ne, feeling like I'll be stamped a fraud for not being "Ne enough," (which sounds ridiculous when put into words). Granted, I'm certain I'm not lead-Ne (double observer) so my Ne-ness would presumably be less conspicuous than a lead Ne's.
Also, I've always related to the idea that the mind stores memories like a web.
You've got one node (Si) of information which when activated, activates all the surrounding nodes (more Si), zipping through until all the relevant info has been gathered, which might account for why certain details might be missing if a node has been skipped or activated late.
Whenever some other way of storing and retrieving memories has been presented I've always been like, "people do what?"
And in the end it could all just be peacocking and wishful thinking. Consume can be a pain sometimes, even (or especially) as a saviour.
Great explanation
That is such an intj looking woman
I am an Ne user, but I have to say "A reminds me of B, and here's why" because I have so many Ni and Se users that can't follow along, I've built the phrase into my SOP. My Si wouldsometimes kick in to loop me back to the original point... eventually.
Hey nice integration!
Wisecrack channel has that Ne flavor.
Ne is Catherine Tate - Enigmatic Cop which you can find here on TH-cam.
Man as a Se user i always feel like all the other functions have some kind of superpower while im just over here like „uh yea i see and hear and smell“ like wtf how lame is that
im literally unable to listen to someone if they have a butterfly flying behind them or a train is going by
I knew this video was coming.
Lol did ya?!
I think I don’t have Ne because I hate changing subject and when I think I do like “ohh this thing is the same thing as that thing lmao” but it happens to me that I’m hearing an interesting convo for an hour/hour and a half (just before my mental energy drops down) and I shout a word/phrase that seems so unrelated but when I explain it in more detail, everyone gets it. I explained by thro unconscious Se and Ni wants to narrow down the idea/concept, but I may be wrong
I mean...is it really such a jump to go from law to anthropology? Both are centered around human systems, and concern themselves with the behavior and culture of mankind. I don't see how this is such a big deal. Like those two make perfect sense to me. (Then again, I do have auxiliary Ne 😜) try making the jump from law to sports injuries! (Which, again, I could do in a hot second haha)
Lol 😂 and here we have Ne justifying Ne my friends 🤣♥️
Everything I was following pretty good until about 4:25 and then my brain got a little lost. Not a criticism
Just noticing that this is a point in listening to someone that I would be looking for some visual thing to keep the thought paths in line for comparing 2 things. If I were taking notes I would make 2 boxes and try to sort that information because the wires are crossing for me. I gather that having everything in one abstract cloud is more Ni? and Ne is more of a train? or rather a pingpong ball in extreme cases... Like me playing skyrim or Elden ring teleporting to various places because I remember a chain of things I intended to do here and there creating a web of tasks not inter-related but they will lead me to a specific self-set goal.
idk if that is making sense.
I guess I'm asking if I'm getting it right and I think I'm Ne (even though forever I thought I was INFJ and have considered INTP and ENTP)
ok I'm doing the rabbit trail thing
also, usually I would organize and edit what I wrote before posting it but my phone is making it really hard to do so idk if its the app or my semi-broken phone.
So I'm Ne
Curious on if I am understanding the explanation from 4:25-5:00 correctly but sometimes I just gotta move on from information I don't understand verbally.
Other Ne people, do you work better taking notes, even if just to visualize? is that a Te need of mine? feel free to tell me your thoughts.
Is purple your favorite color? Also, you are pretty :)
Thanks! And no, I don’t really have a favorite color!
@@InternetLiJo does the choice of the color purple have a purpose?
HAHA! 3 sentences?
Well, that Ne user is still a beginner; I can shift the whole conversation in ONE! 😝
Especially if my INTP brother is involved.
In 3 sentences I can cover 4 to 6 different topics. Completely unrelatable ones
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA INDEED!
It's like Wikipedia: Where can you go with 3 clicks?
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Right!!!!
We can end up really, really, far away from here in 3 steps! 😂
I can be on a different planet in three sentences.
Are you a knight that says Ne?
Ni!!!!
Requesting two shrubberies, of different heights for a split-level effect with a path running down the middle, sounds pretty Se, which would imply Ni. :)
Good example of youtuber that has Ne is Fuslie, watch how she tell her story
Examples would help for us Se's